Regular City Council Meeting May 4, 2021

Remote, via teleconference · 4 hours 23 minutes · 4937 caption units

Council: Paul Fadelli, Mayor · Gabe Quinto, Mayor Pro Tem · Janet Abelson · Lisa Motoyama · Tessa Rudnick

Staff: Karen Pinkos, City Manager · Melanie Mintz, Community Development Director

Presenting: Shannon Dodgin, BART Transit-Oriented Development · Rachel Factor, BART

The El Cerrito Plaza BART development is presented for the first time: 750 to 850 homes, half income-restricted, on land BART keeps and leases. Property tax on the site would go “from zero… to maybe $250,000.” And the library, if it happens, “would be ours” to pay for.

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Contents

35 sections
  1. 01Anyone, from anywhereS
  2. 02ProclamationsS
  3. 03“Affordable housing month”X
  4. 04Comment before the presentationS
  5. 05A woman at the templeS
  6. 06What BART and the city built togetherS
  7. 07Where the housing stoppedS
  8. 08Almost half below marketS
  9. 09A parcel outside the planS
  10. 10Seven fifty to eight fiftyS
  11. 11Property tax, and what density brings
  12. 12PigeonholedS
  13. 13“The library would be ours”S
  14. 14Twenty thousand homes by 2040S
  15. 15Who drives to the Plaza
  16. 16A corridor, not a stationS
  17. 17The development team
  18. 18Open space firstN
  19. 19“The missing middle”
  20. 20Walking through the site plan
  21. 21A playground, and four gyms
  22. 22Reimagining downtown
  23. 23Four gymsS
  24. 24Minimize the replacement parking
  25. 25Waste, and the greenwayS
  26. 26A citywide parking planS
  27. 27A long road aheadS
  28. 28Landscape and lightingS
  29. 29The storm drain reportN
  30. 30Two percent, plus changesS
  31. 31Residents, and the poolN
  32. 32Extensions by applicationS
  33. 33Three and a half million in property taxesS
  34. 34Net change, not totalS
  35. 35The expected columnS

01 Anyone, from anywhere captions 1–110

0:11:18Good evening, the May 4th regular city council meeting

0:11:22is called to order at 7:00 o'clock Can

0:11:27we please have a roll call And Fidele here, man, Potemkin

0:11:33here, council member, Apison here and some member

0:11:37moltmann here council member Budnick here.

0:11:41We have a quien.

0:11:43Thank you So the clerk may we have the telecom for

0:11:47and public comment instructions Thank you, Mayor.

0:11:50City Council members and staff who

0:11:52are participating as panelists.

0:11:53Please remember to keep your microphone muted whenever you

0:11:56are not speaking to ensure compliance with the BAN Act

0:11:59to address security concerns, attend images and videos

0:12:02will remain disabled as well as the taxi

0:12:04driver approaches The members of the public who wish to provide

0:12:08oral testimony The man will announce

0:12:10the time for public comment on each applicable item

0:12:13If you wish to speak,

0:12:14please select the hand icon to raise your hand If you cannot

0:12:17locate the icon please refer to the document linked on page one

0:12:21of the agenda for the raised hand feature attendee's joining

0:12:24by phone can dial star Nine to raise their hand when

0:12:28it's your turn to provide comments

0:12:30your name will be called and you will

0:12:31be prompted to amuse yourself.

0:12:33Attendee's joining by phone will be prompted to dial star

0:12:36six to amuse themselves Yeah, we're ready to move

0:12:38on to the next item.

0:12:40Thank you.

0:12:40It's time for staff and council communication

0:12:43We start with staff.

0:12:44Please Certainly Thank you, Mayor.

0:12:49I am here in the city manager Just

0:12:51have a few quick announcements First,

0:12:54regarding our local emergency that I update.

0:12:56You on.

0:12:57Every council meeting Contra Costa County

0:12:59is still in the orange tiers.

0:13:01There are no changes on that front.

0:13:03But one notable item is that not only has the county met,

0:13:07its goal of one million vaccinations but the county

0:13:11announced yesterday that with the covid vaccines supplied

0:13:14now plentiful the county will now vaccinate anyone

0:13:19at its clinics, regardless of whether or not they live

0:13:22or work in Contra Costa County.

0:13:23So they will offer the vaccine to people ages 16 and up

0:13:27from anywhere in the Bay Area.

0:13:29Anywhere in California, anywhere in the United States.

0:13:32If you can get to the county, get here and get a vaccine.

0:13:36There have some revisions to the CDC guidelines

0:13:38and that they've said that masks may not be necessary

0:13:41when you're outside by yourself, away from others

0:13:44people in your household.

0:13:45But it's still not a bad idea to stay

0:13:48in the habit of wearing a mask when you're out and about,

0:13:50even if you are vaccinated.

0:13:51Despite the positive direction we're in.

0:13:53If you can see other parts of the world,

0:13:55we are still in the midst of a global pandemic.

0:13:58So to that end, please stay vigilant be safe and practice

0:14:01safety protocol Just a reminder that the close walk

0:14:05in no appointment necessary vaccination clinic

0:14:07is the Richmond Memorial Auditorium

0:14:10over by their city hall So any information can be

0:14:14found at Coronavirus helberg.

0:14:18I wanted to make sure also to remind everyone that we are

0:14:21hosting a community budget workshop

0:14:23this Saturday, May 8th beginning at nine thirty a.m.

0:14:27The workshop will provide an update on the city's budget

0:14:29and financial position and intends to engage the community

0:14:33on fiscal recovery strategy So the agenda

0:14:36is posted on the City Council Agenda page

0:14:38on city website, which also has the Zoome link attached

0:14:41and we will put out reminders on social media

0:14:43throughout the week.

0:14:44So we hope to see everyone there.

0:14:46And then finally, you do have a proclamation

0:14:49on the agenda tonight for Public Works coming up.

0:14:53But i wanted to note that this week is actually public service

0:14:56recognition week and this year more than ever,

0:14:59I want to take this opportunity to recognize

0:15:01every single employee of the city of Ulcerate

0:15:04and thank them for their service to ulcerate

0:15:07and to the entire community.

0:15:09Despite the pandemic and all of the challenges

0:15:11we faced, our city has kept going because of our staff.

0:15:15We've adapted reacted, and we're still here providing services

0:15:18and doing our best to make life better for all of you,

0:15:22for the residents and businesses So it is just

0:15:25wonderful to be part of a team that cares about our work

0:15:28and cares about each other.

0:15:29So I'm proud and honored to work with a talented and dedicated

0:15:33group of people.

0:15:34I'm grateful to every single Elstree

0:15:36employee, not just this week.

0:15:38But always so and also to all of the city council,

0:15:41as you happy public service recognition week.

0:15:44And with that I'm done.

0:15:46Your Honor, thank you so much.

0:15:48Thank you.

0:15:49Any council member comments gurnon I wanted to reiterate

0:15:59what Karen just mentioned.

0:16:01Please come Saturday, please come in.

0:16:03Tell us what You think about our budget,

0:16:06your priorities are services that we need.

0:16:08Where to redefinition time and we need your input.

0:16:12And we appreciate that.

0:16:15I also want to mention that I participated in a truth

0:16:19and reconcile creation, stop Asian violence

0:16:23effort that our human relations commission put on.

The meeting opened remotely with all five members present.

The City Manager's pandemic report carried one notable change: the county had met “its goal of one million vaccinations,” and with supply “now plentiful, the county will now vaccinate anyone at its clinics — regardless of whether or not they live or work in Contra Costa County.”

The reach: “ages 16 and up from anywhere in the Bay Area. Anywhere in California, anywhere in the United States. If you can get to the county, get here and get a vaccine.”

CDC guidance had relaxed on outdoor masking, though she advised staying “in the habit… even if you are vaccinated.”

Her reason: “if you can see other parts of the world, we are still in the midst of a global pandemic.”

Then an announcement: a community budget workshop on Saturday 8 May, to “engage the community on fiscal recovery strategy.”

And a note for Public Service Recognition Week: “our city has kept going because of our staff. We've adapted, reacted, and we're still here providing services.”

Significant

The Saturday budget workshop announced here is one residents refer back to afterwards. An ICU nurse asks in September: “there were breakout groups, we came up with all of these ideas. What was the result of that? Nothing.” And a speaker notes in June that none of its recommendations proposed cutting library hours.

02 Proclamations captions 111–165

0:16:26And it's continuing for the next two or three

0:16:28Wednesdays It was wonderful.

0:16:30It's a great job.

0:16:31Our human relations commission puts on.

0:16:34So people look to that check it out.

0:16:38And also wanted to, because I think

0:16:39we're going to have a busy night of late night

0:16:42I'm going to be pushing tonight to move the budget along.

0:16:45But I wanted to say that I wanted to make an announcement

0:16:48of someone I wanted to adjourn in Memoria

0:16:51at the end of end of tonight.

0:16:53Chris, logjam check gresh as several people

0:16:58have suggested that we mentioned him in a city council meeting

0:17:02tonight.

0:17:04He's an extraordinary he was an extraordinary meeting

0:17:07for the last forty Two years.

0:17:09He lived here with his family known as Chet

0:17:13He's an important part of the Don Carroll neighborhood.

0:17:16The Don Carroll Neighborhood Association

0:17:19He was a champion and leader in our city,

0:17:21Certa program to improve our emergency

0:17:23awareness and our response and always

0:17:27at any neighborhood event.

0:17:28He was always looking for volunteers

0:17:30to join in that effort.

0:17:31He was born in Scotland And Chet's history

0:17:34involves leaving Poland with his family to avoid and to avoid

0:17:38the Nazis He worked his whole life publishing First

0:17:42with the U.S. press and then with the office of the U.S.

0:17:45president.

0:17:46The division of library Automation.

0:17:48And famously, he was a producer of the PBS series A Great

0:17:52Libraries of the World He was a sweet and gentle man,

0:17:55and he had four children And with his wonderful wife,

0:17:59Monica dealt with the long battle of cancer,

0:18:02notably Six days after Jett died his daughter

0:18:06tricia gave birth to her first child

0:18:09and his fourth grandchild.

0:18:11Will be missed Harbor Drive here and throughout.

0:18:15Alfredo my to move on now to the oral communicate

0:18:20from the public At this time, members of the public who wish

0:18:24to provide public comments regarding matters,

0:18:27not on the agenda or consent items and presentation items

0:18:32should use the raised hand feature to request to speak

0:18:37Please note that tonight, however, public comments

0:18:39for a budget item, which will be maybe a little lengthy,

0:18:43will also be taken following the presentation City clerk,

0:18:46can you please proceed Thank you, Mayor.

0:18:50And so we go to our general public comments.

0:18:53I'm going to invite just which with housing to share

0:18:58some comments in acceptance of the EPA affordable Housing Week

0:19:03proclamation that on our consent calendar tonight Jeff,

0:19:07you should be able to amuse yourself Here you go.

0:19:13Thank you.

0:19:16Good evening, everybody.

The consent calendar carried four proclamations and one resolution.

The proclamations: National Public Works Week, East Bay Affordable Housing Week, Jewish American Heritage Month and Asian Pacific American Heritage Month.

The resolution authorized the city as joint applicant with BRIDGE Housing for Mayfair El Cerrito at 11690 San Pablo Avenue — an Affordable Housing and Sustainable Communities grant application.

The Mayor had reported taking part in a “truth and reconciliation, stop Asian violence” effort run by the Human Relations Commission, continuing over the following Wednesdays.

His assessment: “it's a great job our human relations commission puts on.”

The Mayor also announced that the meeting would adjourn in memory of a resident of 42 years known as Chet, a leader of the city's CERT emergency-response program and of his neighborhood association, whose family left Poland to escape the Nazis and who worked in publishing and library automation, including as a producer of the PBS series on great libraries of the world.

The calendar was adopted.

Motoyama recused herself from the Mayfair item because the company she works for does business with BRIDGE Housing; the rest of the consent calendar was adopted, and the Mayfair resolution then passed with her abstaining.

Significant

The Mayfair project pairs the city, BART and an affordable housing developer on a state grant; the far larger Plaza station development is presented the same evening. The Human Relations Commission's anti-Asian violence series runs alongside.

03 “Affordable housing month” captions 166–201

0:19:17My name is Jeffrey Levine, and I'm

0:19:19a policy director with the EPA housing Organizations.

0:19:23Those of you who aren't familiar with us

0:19:25say thirty seven year old nonprofit membership

0:19:28based organization.

0:19:30We work for create, Preserve and Protect

0:19:32affordable housing opportunities for low income communities

0:19:35throughout the East Bay by educating advocating,

0:19:38organizing, and building coalitions

0:19:41for the past twenty five years, we have sponsored

0:19:43an affordable housing week.

0:19:45And this year, in conjunction with similar organizations

0:19:48in the South Bay, the peninsula and San Francisco

0:19:51we have expanded this to an affordable housing month.

0:19:54I want to thank the council for this proclamation

0:19:56and also for the commitment of the city council and staff

0:20:00to addressing the Affordable Housing needs of our low income

0:20:03residents of evidenced by developments

0:20:05such as ohlone gardens, apartments honna gardens,

0:20:08senior apartments the Mayfair Saariaho development,

0:20:12as well as policies such as affordable housing

0:20:14strategy and inclusionary housing requirement.

0:20:18We look forward to working with you in the future

0:20:20as we move forward with development of mixed income

0:20:22housing the Plaza BART station with a substantial amount

0:20:25of affordable housing and to preparation of the next update.

0:20:29The city's housing element, particularly

0:20:31to identify suitable sites to meet El Cerrito

0:20:33share of the regional housing needs

0:20:35to accommodate a range of income levels

0:20:37in a way that promotes racial equity

0:20:39and meets the state mandate to affirmatively

0:20:42further fair housing.

0:20:43Once again, thank you for this proclamation.

0:20:45And we invite the council and members of the public to join

0:20:48our affordable housing month.

An advocacy organization accepted the housing week proclamation and named what it expected next.

The speaker introduced a “thirty seven year old nonprofit membership based organization” working “to create, preserve and protect affordable housing opportunities for low income communities throughout the East Bay.”

The change this year: after “twenty five years” of sponsoring an affordable housing week, it had been “expanded… to an affordable housing month.”

What he credited the city for: Ohlone Gardens, Hana Gardens senior apartments, the Mayfair development, and policies including “affordable housing strategy and inclusionary housing requirement.”

What he was looking to: “mixed income housing [at] the Plaza BART station with a substantial amount of affordable housing.”

And the next task: the housing element update, “particularly to identify suitable sites to meet El Cerrito['s] share of the regional housing needs.”

In a way that “promotes racial equity and meets the state mandate to affirmatively further fair housing.”

Cross-reference

The housing element update this speaker looks forward to is adopted in August 2022, with 58% of its site capacity in areas the state scores as low resource. Those are also the areas flagged for displacement risk.

04 Comment before the presentation captions 202–276

0:20:49Activities include our online celebration

0:20:53on the evening of Thursday, April 13th,

0:20:55more information can be found on our website at EEB.

0:20:59OMG, that's phog.

0:21:02And again, thank you for your continuing support Thank you.

0:21:08Thank you so much.

0:21:10OK we will proceed with our comments.

0:21:12First, I would like just to announce that the written

0:21:14public comments received by the advance deadline day

0:21:17were posted online as supplemental material

0:21:20and provided directly to the city council members.

0:21:23We received public comment on items

0:21:25not on the agenda from Irish, Chanel, Chanel and Cordele,

0:21:29LA An item for B from Gemstar sic and on our presentation

0:21:35tonight, agenda item five eight and Stephen

0:21:37Price Rebecca Bernazzani.

0:21:40Rose-Marie, the Vikan me and Jane Byrne And at this time i

0:21:45see three hands raised to request to speak,

0:21:50if you would like to speak at this time

0:21:53you can use the right hand function

0:21:54and if you are calling in by phone,

0:21:56you can dial Star nine to raise your hand May

0:21:59I just want to confirm the 3 minute time limit.

0:22:033 minutes Thank you.

0:22:04So I will go to our first speaker, Haloti Goudey.

0:22:08How do you should be able to unmuted now Hi,

0:22:12my name is Henry County.

0:22:14Live in Australia.

0:22:16So i, my comment was actually about the procedure for public

0:22:22comment on presentation items.

0:22:23And I appreciate what the mayor just

0:22:26announced that in this particular instance

0:22:30presentation public comment will be taken with item tonight.

0:22:35But independent of i think that that policy should be revised

0:22:44and all presentation, public comments

0:22:47should be taken with the presentation items

0:22:49i observed for many years.

0:22:51That's how this council has always done it.

0:22:54It seemed to change about a year ago

0:22:56And I didn't really notice at the time.

0:23:01But the previous meeting had a presenter

0:23:04that did not take public comment with a presentation.

0:23:08I was expected to be on at the beginning.

0:23:11And I think that as a general procedure is just,

0:23:16you know a poor practice that you discourages

0:23:21public participation because it's

0:23:24not made very clear that that's how it would happen.

0:23:28And the public can't make comments

0:23:31that are as useful as they otherwise would

0:23:34if they haven't yet heard the presentation They can

0:23:37only go by whatever written material is

0:23:40as provided ahead of time.

0:23:42So I think just as a matter of course

0:23:45you should always take your public comments

0:23:48after your presentation has been presented

0:23:52and that's my comment.

0:23:54Thank you.

0:23:56Thank you.

0:23:57You next speaker is Dan Schulman and you

0:24:00should be able to unmuted begin your time now.

0:24:05Thanks.

0:24:06I guess actually, I might be waiting, then because I

0:24:08was going to comment on Bart.

0:24:09Should I wait then until after the presentation Yes, OK.

0:24:12Oh, RIT then.

0:24:14I'm done.

0:24:16You oK ?

0:24:17I'll go to we'll go to our next speaker which

0:24:20is individualising and you should be able to begin

0:24:23your time All right.

0:24:31There is go.

0:24:33That's excellent.

0:24:34Thank you.

0:24:35Hello, everybody.

0:24:36And I'll Cerita, I want to definitely acknowledge

Howdy Goudey objected to when public comment is taken, and the objection is about usefulness.

His appreciation first: the Mayor had announced that tonight, comment on the presentation “will be taken with [the] item.”

But he wanted the general rule changed: “all presentation public comments should be taken with the presentation items.”

His account of the history: “I observed for many years, that's how this council has always done it. It seemed to change about a year ago, and I didn't really notice at the time.”

What prompted him: the previous meeting “had a presenter that did not take public comment with a presentation.”

His two objections. First, it “discourages public participation, because it's not made very clear that that's how it would happen.”

Second: “the public can't make comments that are as useful as they otherwise would if they haven't yet heard the presentation. They can only go by whatever written material is provided ahead of time.”

The next speaker demonstrated it, asking: “I was going to comment on BART. Should I wait then until after the presentation?”

Significant

Taking comment before a presentation means the public speaks without having heard what it is commenting on. The speaker said the practice seemed to change about a year earlier, and that he “didn't really notice at the time.” The next speaker then asks whether to wait.

05 A woman at the temple captions 277–369

0:24:40it was a beautiful weekend during the senior stroll

0:24:44that buddy facilitates by the Akashic We ended up at the Sikh

0:24:49temple in elsah, Brawne, and mirepoix came Councilwoman

0:24:55Tessa came in a few other local people

0:24:58came in I think Tessa missed it.

0:25:01But a woman actually came up to us.

0:25:03And when we right when we got to the temple.

0:25:06And it was really amazing.

0:25:07I didn't have to even say anything.

0:25:08But she shared how her son has been getting has

0:25:12been getting ostracise because of his turban

0:25:14and not getting a job.

0:25:16And he's like, well you know, he's has

0:25:18all these accreditation and computer engineering

0:25:20and he's getting racism here in the bay

0:25:22and been getting attacked here in our neighborhood

0:25:25and our community.

0:25:26And so it was really nice to have people

0:25:28come and share the space.

0:25:30And we share our culture and people to see what sick people

0:25:33are and what we're about.

0:25:34And that we're Asian, too.

0:25:35And we don't get considered as Asian Whenever

0:25:38I filled out any form growing it was always Asian,

0:25:40but it was beautiful.

0:25:41I really want to honor the mayor.

0:25:42I want to honor.

0:25:44I want to honor councilwoman.

0:25:45I think that's what we need to do more.

0:25:47It start to be started to share more of our cultures

0:25:50our backgrounds and our stories and with those stories,

0:25:53we also find new ways to deal with the problems we're

0:25:55dealing with and finding more ways to build

0:25:57resilience and solidarity.

0:26:00And I solving problems comes from that.

0:26:02When start to break down these walls of differences

0:26:05and we recognize we share the same values and i feel

0:26:08I wonder, you know, love to get some more percent,

0:26:11maybe some of you can join us some time.

0:26:12The other counts council woman Lisa Councilwomen Able San.

0:26:16Maybe you can join even the city staff can join.

0:26:19It's worth it because we have community members

0:26:20who are sick who wear turbans.

0:26:22It's nice to know what's going on

0:26:25and why they wear the turban and anybody in the community also.

0:26:27If you guys want come.

0:26:29But he does these senior roles and that being said,

0:26:32the last thing I'm going to make a comment on is just that fact.

0:26:36If we can't meet in person for now,

0:26:38I think we should lean in a little bit with stuff

0:26:41like Buddy Senior Strohl where we get

0:26:43to walk and talk and meet other people in the community

0:26:46and talk about stuff, but also just walk

0:26:49and see our neighborhood I think if we're not going to be

0:26:51able to meet in the park for now,

0:26:52if there's a lot all these brown act

0:26:54and different things that are preventing those,

0:26:56then at least we can meet with the people who are facilitating

0:26:58stuff in the community, which also helps

0:27:00to engage in conversation.

0:27:02So I recommend buddy Akashic look up the senior reach

0:27:05out to anybody.

0:27:05I mean, he knows he's such a wonderful human being

0:27:08in this community.

0:27:08So I'm sure there's a way to connect.

0:27:10But let's maybe One more walks together

0:27:12and maybe come to the Sikh temple

0:27:14and we'll do that monthly maybe.

0:27:16And people could come in the future.

0:27:18But maybe there's other temples or there's

0:27:19other perspectives you can learn from each other

0:27:21and support each other with.

0:27:23But on walks, celebrate our city and each other.

0:27:26So thank you guys for your time.

0:27:28Make sure you guys.

0:27:29Breathe, meditate sleep well.

0:27:31All right.

0:27:32Take care.

0:27:33Let's solve these problems.

0:27:36Thank you.

0:27:37You may I that does conclude your request

0:27:39to speak at this time.

0:27:40Thank you.

0:27:40Thank you very much for that.

0:27:42We move on to the adoption of the consent calendar

0:27:46and I will read the consent items of some council member

0:27:49has one.

0:27:49They let me know We're going to start out with the urban forest

0:27:53Committee appointment, National Public Works week proclamation,

0:27:58which the city manager mentioned,

0:28:00Eastbay affordable Housing Week proclamation which was also

0:28:04mentioned jewish American Heritage month

0:28:07proclamation Asian Pacific American heritage Proclamation

A speaker reported on a walk that ended at a Sikh temple.

The occasion: a senior stroll, run by a volunteer, which the Mayor and a councilmember joined.

What happened on arrival: “a woman actually came up to us… I didn't have to even say anything.”

What she told them: “her son has been getting ostracised because of his turban and not getting a job.”

Despite “all these accreditation[s] and computer engineering,” he was “getting racism here in the bay and… attacked here in our neighborhood and our community.”

The speaker's own point about categorization: “we're Asian, too. And we don't get considered as Asian. Whenever I filled out any form growing [up] it was always Asian.”

His conclusion: “we need to… share more of our cultures, our backgrounds and our stories — and with those stories, we also find new ways to deal with the problems we're dealing with.”

His invitation extended to staff as well as councilmembers.

Significant

A woman at the temple told the group her son was being ostracized and denied work over his turban. The speaker's point is about who counts as Asian on a form, made in the month the Council proclaims Asian Pacific American Heritage. He raises systemic discrimination repeatedly through 2021 and says in October he is experiencing it himself.

06 What BART and the city built together captions 370–632

0:28:12and finally adopted Resolution authorizing a joint applicant

0:28:16with bridge housing for the Mayfair

0:28:18Elstree located at one one Six nine oh, San Pablo Avenue.

0:28:24Do we have any.

0:28:25Yes.

0:28:27Council Syama.

0:28:28Thank you Mayor.

0:28:30I'd like to request to pull item F My company

0:28:35that I work for, economics works with Brighthouse

0:28:39and in a abundance of caution, I would like to recuse myself.

0:28:43And so i would like to not vote on that item Well,

0:28:47any other items can we take a vote

0:28:50on all the other consent items except for item Five f Two ?

0:28:57I hear a motion.

0:28:58I'll move.

0:28:59Second I think I saw Janet Wilson's hand up first.

0:29:04I think I move that now.

0:29:06To member able Senate seconded by council

0:29:08member Mohtarma Can we have a roll call vote, please ?

0:29:12Infidelity I may have attempting to.

0:29:15I can remember everything I and some member Matsuyama.

0:29:20I can't remember I mentioned carries Thank you so i'm going

0:29:28to turn my camera and Newt or the next item You don't want

0:29:34to abstain Oh, I think I need to be Mr. Mayor,

0:29:40I had suggested never Murtala that as a proxy for leaving

0:29:45the Dyas that she turned her camera off and used herself

0:29:49while you vote on the item that she's abstaining from,

0:29:51even when there's no discussion, she should do that.

0:29:54Right.

0:29:55OK, thank you.

0:29:56See you in a minute.

0:29:58Thank you.

0:29:59I have a motion for item five F motion

0:30:03to f from get seconded by Mayor quintel.

0:30:09Can have a roll call vote, please.

0:30:12Fidele, I mean Potemkin to council member Apison i council

0:30:18member nick I motion with council member Matsuyama Rikyu

0:30:24Thank you Remove the presentations.

0:30:29Now and we're going to have a a three part presentation

0:30:35about the Bart Elstree.

0:30:36Bart Plaza Station.

0:30:38Todd effort, transliterate development and I

0:30:42believe we're going to start with our staff presentation

0:30:46and then we have a presentation from BART and the developer.

0:30:51And we do have director BART, director rebecca Saltzman here,

0:30:55who will be introducing who will be presenting on behalf of BART

0:31:00and the developer director Saltzman,

0:31:04you want to mention the names of the people

0:31:05that will be testifying Sure.

0:31:11Good evening.

0:31:11Do do you want me to say my brief introduction or just

0:31:15say the names of the speaking ?

0:31:16I have the names and then we're going

0:31:17to go to our city staff Sorry, I cut out when I switched over.

0:31:22So the we have a great team here this evening.

0:31:25It's really just part of the team

0:31:27is working on this development from BART.

0:31:30We have Shannon from property development and Rachel Factor

0:31:34from station area planning and then the developer team We have

0:31:39Jamie Hitcher from Holiday Development

0:31:42and then from related companies.

0:31:44We have and silverberg and Andrew CORFO.

0:31:49So that's the team.

0:31:50We will be presenting this evening.

0:31:53Thank you very much.

0:31:55So the staff can begin your presentation.

0:31:58Melony it's our community development

0:32:01director Good evening.

0:32:05Let's see, I'm going to make sure I'm hurt.

0:32:07I actually switched computers to City Hall

0:32:09today, so it's always fun doing new things good evening.

0:32:15City Council Mayor I'm pleased to be here tonight.

0:32:18To kick off really to kick off the development It'll

0:32:22be a multi-year development process

0:32:24and planning process at Elstree plaza before I get started.

0:32:31Actually, Rebecca, I was i'm joined

0:32:34as a board or director Saltzman said by the development team

0:32:39and by our team.

0:32:40And we'll be making remarks pretty brief tonight.

0:32:42To leave lots of opportunity for city council

0:32:46to be able to ask questions or so

0:32:48many details on this project.

0:32:50I would really like to provide the kickoff

0:32:52So before I get started our board member,

0:32:56Director Saltzman did you want to say

0:32:57any other words about the development

0:32:59before we jump into our present Sure.

0:33:03I'm going to be brief tonight because there'll

0:33:06be many more opportunities.

0:33:07But I just wanted to say how excited

0:33:10i am for Bart to be partnering with El Sarino to move forward.

0:33:15This mixed-use development at El Cerrito Plaza our station.

0:33:19I'm an Colorado resident and i live in walking distance

0:33:23from the station and pre pandemic I walked there

0:33:26at least five days a week to go to work and sometimes

0:33:29for other things to and we really think this could be

0:33:33a huge benefit to the community It's very early in the process

0:33:38even though we've selected a development team,

0:33:41we have a long ways to go.

0:33:43So we're eager to hear input from the city

0:33:46council and the community.

0:33:48And I'm excited we're going to get

0:33:49back into the community for a virtual town later this month.

0:33:54So just eager to to work with you all and excited

0:34:00for this opportunity.

0:34:01Mostly here to listen, this evening.

0:34:03Thank you.

0:34:05Thank you.

0:34:06And Melanie before we proceed, I just

0:34:08want to say to fellow council members,

0:34:10we will be asking questions to commentator

0:34:14after each presentation so that we can move on and be brief.

0:34:18So thank you, Melanie.

0:34:21I'm sure that I am seeing what you are seeing.

0:34:23So I'm going to trust that this slide show is as being

0:34:28shown So, again, there we go.

0:34:33So tonight again, I'm really pleased to be here to kick off

0:34:36this multi-year planning process with the developers

0:34:40as director Saltzman said, holiday development, who

0:34:44as many of you know, is also working on Mayfair Project,

0:34:47which was also a long time coming related California

0:34:50and satellite affordable housing Associates,

0:34:52as well as a stellar team of architects and urban designers.

0:34:56And it will take many Next slide, please.

0:35:00Tonight let's see if the next slide.

0:35:03So tonight, really is just a very, very brief

0:35:06overview of the background.

0:35:07I'll be talking a little about the background

0:35:09and how we got a little bit about the overview

0:35:11of the project in the process and i

0:35:13will be passing into the development and part team.

0:35:15And I think, like you just said, Mary

0:35:17are planning on taking questions at the end

0:35:18since it's kind of a big puzzle that comes together with all

0:35:22these different layers.

0:35:23Importantly, tonight, also, we wanted to kick off this meeting

0:35:27by introducing to council and the public

0:35:30that's at this meeting.

0:35:31But at the end of the month, we the development team

0:35:35in particular, will be holding another public workshop that

0:35:38will allow for more interaction with the public,

0:35:41and more question and answer I think some of the questions

0:35:43that come up tonight from council

0:35:45will help us even shape that meeting

0:35:47And again, this will be stated at various times

0:35:50throughout the meeting, at the meeting

0:35:52for the public workshop is May.

0:35:53Twenty fifth which is a Tuesday from six to seven thirty PM.

0:35:57There's a webpage there, but we will also

0:35:59be blasting it out on our social media

0:36:02Art will be putting it out.

0:36:03And i believe that we'll also be doing

0:36:05a mailing to immediate the immediate neighborhood

0:36:08Next slide, please.

0:36:11So I kind of I like to start with this,

0:36:13and partly just because there's so many logistics

0:36:16but I think it's important to also

0:36:17start with what's the vision ?

0:36:19And I like to rely a bit on former Senator Linnehan vision

0:36:23for kind of San Pablo Avenue, the entire corridor

0:36:26really, from Oakland all the way up to Hercules

0:36:28So she wrote imagine San Pablo Avenue as a grand boulevard

0:36:32stretching from Oakland to Hercules with jewels

0:36:34of pedestrian friendly and family

0:36:36friendly, mixed use urban and distinctive neighborhoods.

0:36:39Along the way, the San pablo Avenue of the Future

0:36:42will include a diverse range of housing business service

0:36:45recreational educational transportation,

0:36:47and civic opportunities.

0:36:49With distinct nodes of activity in each city connected by

0:36:52an attractive multimodal world.

0:36:54Class boulevard and she said state of this probably 10,

0:36:5815 years ago And I think little by little

0:37:01as this picture shows, I think I don't have a before

0:37:03and after here, but San Pablo avenue is transforming.

0:37:06I know that it it's a slow process

0:37:09to turn something that was so auto

0:37:11dominated into a really mixed use place.

0:37:13And similarly, I like to remind council that the Economic

0:37:16Development Action Plan also really envisioned maximizing

0:37:20transit oriented development around BART stations

0:37:24and infill development.

0:37:25And it partly did this because it

0:37:27knew that in order for us to attract and retain

0:37:30the types of businesses thus Rita wanted that density

0:37:33to helps support that that creating

0:37:36a walkable walkable, attractive environment

0:37:39helps with business attraction and retention.

0:37:41And I think we're beginning to see that Next slide,

0:37:44please So also to go way back, um, remember this parking

0:37:51lot that we're looking at I think

0:37:52it was I was going to look for a historic slide I've

0:37:55seen one before.

0:37:55I think it was like a cement factory before.

0:37:58It was bART station and was built

0:38:02in nineteen seventy three.

0:38:03We're in the unique position in El Cerrito of course,

0:38:06as a very small city, but we happen

0:38:08to have two BART stations and San Pablo

0:38:10Avenue, a Caltrans highway.

0:38:12So that brings some big transportation players to work

0:38:15with and creates an opportunity to really create a good transit

0:38:20oriented development.

0:38:21Similarly about ten years later, the residential parking

0:38:24permit program was established.

0:38:25And I've been joking lately that even as parking becomes less,

0:38:30parking is required with new development,

0:38:33it actually really continues to be a pretty important

0:38:36part of the conversation.

0:38:37Just as it was decades ago.

0:38:39So we'll talk more about tonight and obviously

0:38:41ongoing and importantly, Bart and the city

0:38:45have partnered over the years on many things many self.

0:38:50So safe routes to transit grants the Aloni Greenway, in fact,

0:38:55was started through a hub project

0:38:57and a and a transportation federal transport

0:39:01administration project to show that transportation and livable

0:39:04community can coexist And then importantly about ten years ago

0:39:11was that when earthquake safety retrofit program

0:39:14took place, when Bart was retrofitting its tracks,

0:39:18to be safe in an earthquake we also

0:39:20partnered with them to help restore the Greenway

0:39:23to its current conditions.

0:39:24The newer pad tonight you just approved an affordable housing

0:39:29Sustainable Communities grant for the Mayfair affordable

0:39:33Housing Project. which was a partnership with BART

0:39:36and the city and bridge Housing Of course, those of you

0:39:41who have hopefully been up to the donor gateway station, all

0:39:44of those improvements in Aloni and Greenway improvements

0:39:47through One Bay Area grants for a partnership.

0:39:50And I think kind of probably the most significant relationship

0:39:54will be over the next couple of years

0:39:56as as the property owner, the developer and the city work

0:40:00together to transform retail Plaza Park next please in terms

0:40:08of this project in specifically council and ask in 2016

0:40:13and was somewhat prescient It was ahead of legislation

0:40:16that would have required us actually to rezone our stations

0:40:19for high density, high density development The City

0:40:22Council, again, in support of its own economic development

0:40:25action plan,

0:40:26climate action plan and general plan

0:40:29and specific plan adopted in MSU resolution

0:40:35asking the BART board of directors

0:40:37to advance development at the Elk Freedom Plaza BART station

0:40:40and directing staff to enter into an iMU to determine

0:40:45feasibility of a potential new library that feasible

0:40:50resulted in this rFQ, which is where we will further

0:40:52test the feasibility of a new library

0:40:55and bring some decisions to council.

0:40:56And we'll talk about that a little later.

0:40:58Then again, in November of twenty nineteen bahts staff

0:41:02at their transit oriented development DAPPLE,

0:41:04you'll hear from later tonight came

0:41:06back and presented goals and objectives

0:41:09for you to comment on.

0:41:11Review and eventually approve that became

0:41:14the foundation for the Q kind of the shared

0:41:16goals and objectives.

0:41:19Then bart and the city, both as a part

0:41:20of our own specific plan, update meetings and BART

0:41:23as a part of its own early outreach on this project

0:41:28and several community workshops.

0:41:29And Bart will talk more about those.

The Community Development Director opened the presentation with the history of the partnership.

What it had produced: “safe routes to transit grants,” and the Ohlone Greenway, which “was started through a… federal transit administration project to show that transportation and livable communit[ies] can coexist.”

Then the retrofit: “about ten years ago… when BART was retrofitting its tracks to be safe in an earthquake, we also partnered with them to help restore the Greenway to its current condition.”

And the Mayfair grant approved that same evening, “a partnership with BART and the city and BRIDGE Housing.”

The origin of tonight's project: a Council resolution in 2016 asking “the BART board of directors to advance development at the El Cerrito Plaza BART station,” and directing staff to “determine feasibility of a potential new library.”

Her assessment of the timing: it “was somewhat prescient — it was ahead of legislation that would have required us actually to rezone our stations for high density.”

Goals and objectives were brought back in November 2019 and became “the foundation for the” request for qualifications.

Parking, she noted, “really continues to be a pretty important part of the conversation, just as it was decades ago.”

Significant

The Council asked BART to develop the station in 2016, two years before state law would have required the rezoning — “somewhat prescient.” The 2016 resolution also directed a library feasibility study, which is why the developer's plans come in two versions.

07 Where the housing stopped captions 633–706

0:41:31As I mentioned, there's one at the end

0:41:33of this month coming up on May.

0:41:34Twenty fifth, and there'll be many opportunities

0:41:37for public engagement and input and decision

0:41:40making over the next couple of years.

0:41:41Next slide, please.

0:41:46I find this slide fascinating.

0:41:48We brought it to you when we did our affordable housing

0:41:50strategy.

0:41:51You can see that over sixty seventy percent

0:41:55of the housing that's in more.

0:41:57I'd have to go get it.

0:41:58But you can tell prior to nineteen eighty

0:42:00is when most of our housing was built and in fact,

0:42:03prior to nineteen sixty is when it was really built.

0:42:07And so I think we know i was predominantly single family.

0:42:09There's a multifamily in there.

0:42:11And then after nineteen eighty we really

0:42:12fall off housing production.

0:42:14And I think this is true for the entire Bay

0:42:16Area the core cities, which is a part of our affordable housing

0:42:22and housing shortage.

0:42:24So you can see we start to build affordable housing probably

0:42:27through i haven't completely researched, but through the set

0:42:30aside that was required in redevelopment.

0:42:32So the green bars in nineteen eighty,

0:42:34you see ninety four units and continuing each each decade

0:42:39going forward, we build some below market rate housing,

0:42:43but you can see the market rate itself

0:42:45also really falls off and falls off completely

0:42:47between kind of two thousand nine and twenty eighteen When

0:42:51we first built. I think Village, a town center

0:42:54was the first project we built at that time.

0:42:56And you can see post specific plan, which was adopted in 2014

0:43:00and twenty eighteen we jump up in this number Nine

0:43:03and sixty six is actually out of date.

0:43:05It's about fourteen units We've been titled

0:43:08and several hundred have been built.

0:43:10So I think this is really interesting when we look

0:43:12at the BART station to look at, it feels like a big project

0:43:15and you can see.

0:43:18However, that housing needs have not really been

0:43:22pursued in the last decades.

0:43:25Prior to about five years ago.

0:43:30Next slide, please.

0:43:33So some of the goals and objectives,

0:43:34it was in your packet.

0:43:35And it's also in both the cities and parts transit oriented

0:43:39development web pages But some of them

0:43:41that I'm just highlighting here that you approved and were

0:43:43a part of what BART included in the RFQ

0:43:46and the developer responded to was to regularly engage

0:43:49the community to enhance the Aloni green Way for the city

0:43:53to manage on site free parking with bahts support

0:43:56to explore how to do this and to explore

0:43:58options for the library.

0:43:59You'll see in the developer's proposal

0:44:01I do have to say plans.

0:44:02One with and one without the library, and we'll

0:44:04be able to proceed with that up to a certain point.

0:44:06At which the city will need to decide what's next Addressing

0:44:13regional housing needs.

0:44:13As I just talked about, having to design

0:44:15be green and sustainable increasing ridership developing

0:44:20a feasible market development looking at how it really

0:44:24benefits the city and how we can bring in financing to help

0:44:28with the infrastructure needs and other needs,

0:44:31how to maximize transportation choice ideally

0:44:35through this project, we will be identifying as part,

0:44:37we'll talk about later, different mobility options that

0:44:40can really help people, not just who live at the station

0:44:44or right next to it, but at a greater distance,

0:44:47access the station and sometimes a hopefully fewer

0:44:50in a single occupancy vehicle.

Further public events were scheduled, including one on 25 May, with “many opportunities for public engagement and input and decision making over the next couple of years.”

A chart of housing production by decade explained why the project is the size it is.

The pattern: “prior to nineteen eighty is when most of our housing was built, and in fact, prior to nineteen sixty is when it was really built” — “predominantly single family.”

Then: “after nineteen eighty we really fall off [in] housing production.”

And her wider point: “this is true for the entire Bay Area core cities, which is a part of our affordable housing and housing shortage.”

Where the below-market housing probably came from, by her account: “the set aside that was required in redevelopment,” producing “ninety four units” in the 1980s and some in each decade since.

But market rate “falls off completely between… two thousand nine and twenty eighteen.”

What changed it: the specific plan adopted in 2014 — after which the numbers “jump up.”

Her conclusion about scale: the station “feels like a big project” — but “housing needs have not really been pursued in the last decades.”

Redevelopment dissolution in 2011 removed the set-aside that had funded the affordable share.

Staff agreed the plans exist in two versions, “one with and one without the library,” and the city “will need to decide what's next” at a certain point.

Significant

Market rate housing production in El Cerrito fell to almost nothing between 2009 and 2018, and the affordable units built before that probably came, staff said, from a redevelopment set-aside. Production rose after the 2014 specific plan, and the same plan is why most of the station site already complies with the state's TOD zoning law.

08 Almost half below market captions 707–786

0:44:52But as you'll see going forward we recognize that that's

0:44:54still a piece of ridership.

0:44:56And finally, affordability bahts its own policies

0:45:02require a minimum of 20 percent affordable housing.

0:45:05As you know, the city has an inclusionary zoning

0:45:07and but it's system wide goal is 30 percent.

0:45:10And you'll see in this presentation

0:45:12that the affordable housing is almost about thirty seven

0:45:17percent is low income, very low income

0:45:19Another twelve percent is moderate So almost half

0:45:22is below market rate.

0:45:24And half is market rate.

0:45:26Next slide, please.

0:45:29As a reminder also, in 2014, you adopted a specific plan.

0:45:33We're in the middle of updating it.

0:45:34It's been successful and it's what a lot of the development

0:45:38that we're seeing in terms of adding housing and adding

0:45:41customers for businesses and hopefully even entrepreneurs

0:45:46The middle class of our station fits into what

0:45:50the downtown area that was envisioned in the specific plan

0:45:53as really becoming a hub for entertainment theater,

0:45:56shopping district and serving as a Southern Gateway

0:45:59The opportunities identified in the plan

0:46:01were to construct higher intensity

0:46:03mixed use development near the part

0:46:04station and the specific plan.

0:46:06Importantly, you'll hear from Bart as well.

0:46:09Actually meet Many cities are right now scrambling

0:46:12to do rezoning to be compliant with state law

0:46:14and the specific plan actually was already

0:46:17compliant with that law.

0:46:18So, again, council was a little bit

0:46:20ahead of the game on this one.

0:46:24On the majority of the site.

0:46:25Next slide, please.

0:46:28See So I know height, parking, are always key pieces.

0:46:31We like to bring up also open space and art and housing

0:46:34and economic development, climate action But I know

0:46:37height and parking are critically important when we

0:46:40adopted the specific plan we adopted a form based

0:46:42code that really looked at how can

0:46:44we maximize the urban design ?

0:46:46While Council allows by right in the specific plan up

0:46:50to six stories in this area and state density

0:46:52bonus law actually allows the projects to go up to eight

0:46:56if it's consistent with that which

0:46:58this project will likely be with all the affordable housing.

0:47:00We really focused on As I'm looking views from the platform

0:47:05looking at open space and how it interacts with the public realm

0:47:09So our planning division has reviewed all the plan,

0:47:12all the projects have come through

0:47:13and will also the design review board

0:47:16and potentially the Planning Commission

0:47:17will also be reviewing the design on this project.

0:47:21But again, both state and the city's own policies

0:47:24allow six stories Also, not throughout a specific plan

0:47:30area where we do allow ground floor residential,

0:47:32but along Fairmont, all of our economic development

0:47:35work at work and planning has said that Vermont

0:47:37is our real opportunity for kind of a pedestrian oriented street

0:47:41It's the one that's kind of a smaller scale than San Pablo

0:47:43Avenue, which will also be pedestrian oriented So as such,

0:47:46we actually require that 50 percent of the ground floor

0:47:49along Fairmont is commercial or library or some public used

0:47:53to really help to set the stage for the way

0:47:57that the commercial district really is an active place

0:48:01at the ground floor.

0:48:02The specific plan also requires open space,

0:48:06and that's an open space shared by residents,

0:48:09public open space, open to the entire public

0:48:11and private open space, like decorate balconies or rooftops,

0:48:15which would be common.

0:48:16We also have high bicycle parking and frontage

0:48:18requirements And again this project will be reviewed

0:48:22based on that form code.

0:48:24But importantly, be twenty nine.

0:48:25Twenty three.

0:48:26Even if we did not have the specific plan

0:48:28does require that city zone properties or properties

0:48:32to a minimum of seven stories and to provide

The affordability numbers were set against three different standards.

BART's own floor: its policies “require a minimum of 20 percent affordable housing.”

Its system-wide aim: “30 percent.”

The city's own instrument: “inclusionary zoning.”

What this project proposes: “almost about thirty seven percent is low income, very low income. Another twelve percent is moderate.”

So “almost half is below market rate. And half is market rate.”

On height: the specific plan allows “six stories” by right in this area, and “state density bonus law actually allows the project to go up to eight if it's consistent” — which “this project will likely be, with all the affordable housing.”

Along Fairmount Avenue, half the ground floor must be commercial, library or other public use, and the specific plan requires shared, public and private open space. AB 2923 separately requires the site to be zoned for at least seven stories.

Design would still go through the city's planning division, the Design Review Board and possibly the Planning Commission.

Significant

Half the homes would be income-restricted — 37% low and very low, 12% moderate — against a BART floor of 20% and a system-wide goal of 30%. With that affordability the project would likely qualify for eight stories rather than six under state density bonus law.

09 A parcel outside the plan captions 787–798

0:48:34some streamlining provisions in development on this map.

0:48:38You can see Passell A is actually outside

0:48:40of the specific plan area.

0:48:41So it is a piece that that will be developed

0:48:44as a part of this project, but it might

0:48:47have some different standards.

0:48:48And we're still figuring out if I didn't

0:48:50say before, this is a kickoff.

0:48:52It's introductory You might get a lot of answers

0:48:54tonight that are thing.

0:48:55We're still figuring this out.

0:48:57So it's really the beginning of the process.

One part of the site sits outside the zoning that governs the rest.

So while most of the site is already compliant with state TOD law, that piece is not, and “might have some different standards.”

The Director's framing of the whole evening: “this is a kickoff. It's introductory. You might get a lot of answers tonight that are… we're still figuring this out.”

Significant

One parcel of the site falls outside the specific plan, so the state TOD zoning that covers the rest does not automatically apply to it. AB 2923 is new enough that all parties are working out what it means, which is why most answers this evening are provisional.

10 Seven fifty to eight fifty captions 799–1041

0:48:59Next slide please.

0:49:02So what do y how again, so this project that's been proposed

0:49:06is about seven fifty to eight units, approximately

0:49:11depending on the site plan.

0:49:13There'll be a lot of review and design into a lot of questions

0:49:15to be asked about three low income, very low income

0:49:19and importantly a new type, which is sometimes called

0:49:22middle income or work force housing or missing middle

0:49:25and for units, which is one that's

0:49:27been hard to get at with our to meet our goals in this regard.

0:49:34These ones aren't subsidized at all,

0:49:35whereas affordable units are.

0:49:38So this developer has proposed ninety four

0:49:40missing middle housing units again replacing

0:49:44commercial space, open space in our transportation access

0:49:47improvements, including structured on-street parking,

0:49:49micro mobility, and more.

0:49:51And you can see some definitions for transit

0:49:53oriented development here.

0:49:54Next slide, please.

0:49:59Apply I've already talked about this a bit

0:50:01That parking lot is really a hole in downtown.

0:50:04It's Eight and really it's only utilized when it's being parked

0:50:10monday through Friday and otherwise

0:50:12it's not really contributing to walkability

0:50:14or economic development.

0:50:16Or housing.

0:50:17Again, I just mentioned that will be a diverse housing

0:50:20types transportation improvements car climate action

0:50:24plan, one of its main community wide goals

0:50:26was that we in order to reduce vehicle miles, traveled

0:50:30and therefore greenhouse gas emissions

0:50:32And I know council has an important climate subcommittee

0:50:34meeting now, but higher density development near our transit

0:50:38stations was one The key goals identified

0:50:40in the climate action Plan.

0:50:42I've mentioned economic development again every time

0:50:45we've gone to anybody they have said really attracting higher

0:50:49density urban lifestyle development is kind

0:50:53of one of the best ways that we can continue

0:50:55to attract and retain business.

0:50:57The properties certainly not taxed.

0:50:59It will be taxed.

0:51:00The market rate portion will be taxed if developed

0:51:05And I've mentioned the other things that you see here.

0:51:08Next slide please.

0:51:11Again, it's a multiyear planning process currently

0:51:14the developer part and the city are

0:51:17really in a project refinement phase,

0:51:19really figuring out part.

0:51:21And the developer are working out their agreement,

0:51:24and are working on a site master plan that would best fulfill

0:51:28the goals and objectives.

0:51:30Bart we'll talk about several grants.

0:51:32They have to be looking at transportation access

0:51:35along the entire corridor.

0:51:37There's parking studies underway.

0:51:39After that, it becomes more of a standard specific plan process.

0:51:43So this whole early part is kind of preliminary planning

0:51:46and then an application will be submitted

0:51:48and it will be brought to the design review board

0:51:51and finally, construction would begin

0:51:53and the developer will talk about timeline

0:51:56and we'll have public workshops throughout this process.

0:51:59The design Review Board and Planning

0:52:01Commission will hold study sessions

0:52:03they have with a specific plan.

0:52:05Those 15 projects referred to earlier.

0:52:07They have been the key bodies to provide the public input

0:52:10and feedback on development, such as this the parts that

0:52:14will come to city council are decisions around how we manage

0:52:18on street parking and whether or not to proceed with a library

0:52:24Next slide, please.

0:52:27So again, Bart is leading a lot of the transportation

0:52:30and studies.

0:52:31All of us will be involved in public engagement.

0:52:33And importantly, Bart is the public agency landowner.

0:52:37The development team will introduce themselves later

0:52:41and the city as I mentioned, really the streets,

0:52:43the public right of way, the land use entitlement

0:52:47and and the library are going to be the key roles,

0:52:52along with public engagement.

0:52:53Some of this is also as I mentioned, because of maybe

0:52:55twenty nine, twenty three.

0:52:56Some of this is being figured out.

0:52:58There's some things that might be

0:52:59different than a regular specific project.

0:53:01And that's also because of course,

0:53:02Bart, being the landowner is different than other landowners

0:53:05that we've dealt with.

0:53:06And there's more shared goals and objectives Next slide,

0:53:09please.

0:53:11So So lastly, you might have more questions about this,

0:53:13but just to kick it off right out,

0:53:15the RFQ did ask the developer team to include

0:53:20an option with the library.

0:53:22So the developer will show you a site plan

0:53:24with or without the developer.

0:53:27The library is proposed to be a part of the Affordable

0:53:29Housing development.

0:53:30If it proceeds and we are determining

0:53:35they are determining how far they can take that

0:53:37and at what point the city needs to determine

0:53:39what it's going to do.

0:53:40So we're going to multiple decision points in the process.

0:53:43We'll be able to see it kind of proceed for a while

0:53:45and then we have to have some conversations about how it

0:53:48would be funded, how it would be delivered,

0:53:49and whether we can proceed.

0:53:50Fortunately, we don't have to do that right now.

0:53:53It can carry some time forward parking again,

0:53:57is a conversation that we need to maybe address

0:53:59sooner rather than later.

0:54:02But we look forward to this taking shape hearing

0:54:05from the community exploring how this could be delivered,

0:54:08what the cost would be and how it could be funded with i will

0:54:12turn it over to bart to to make a presentation

0:54:16and the development team Melanie, if we could have

0:54:19any questions on the council members to our city staff

0:54:22we may have.

0:54:25Are there any council Yes.

0:54:26Council member, Avildsen Yes, I have

0:54:29a question about parking that really,

0:54:34it's about transportation.

0:54:35And I'm wondering if as a part of this project,

0:54:39there could be considerable portion of a way to get people

0:54:44from the hills of El for example down to this project

0:54:49without using a single occupancy car So, for example,

0:54:53if there were shuttles of some sort that ran

0:54:58I don't know if that can be incorporated

0:55:00into this project at all.

0:55:02But it would be in very interesting to me

0:55:04to see that happen because i don't I'm a person

0:55:11who doesn't even drive.

0:55:12So I'm not really thinking about myself.

0:55:14But i think about the people who live in the hills

0:55:17that i mean, they somehow they it's too

0:55:19far to walk to get down here.

0:55:22And so they've got to do something

0:55:25So if there were a shuttle or maybe

0:55:27there's a better idea you know, that might solve the problem.

0:55:31And I'm wondering if we're looking

0:55:33at that in the somewhere in this whole project.

0:55:36So I look forward.

0:55:36I think when Bart gets a present,

0:55:38they'll be talking about the various ways,

0:55:40the transportation and the feasibility

0:55:41of transportation options is going

0:55:43to be studied as a part of it.

0:55:45And options identified for helping people

0:55:49get to the station in a variety ways.

0:55:51So I will let i talk a little bit about the work they're

0:55:54doing, looking at transportation alternatives, options, lisa,

0:56:01council member Mohtarma thank you.

0:56:05First, I just have to mention that my company also works

0:56:09with satellite affordable housing associates as a client

0:56:13but not myself, nor my company is working on this project.

0:56:16and that all my comments and questions

0:56:20regarding the presentation will strictly to protect

0:56:23the interest of the city.

0:56:26And given that I would like to staff a question about how

0:56:31the design review and planning approvals will work Is it

0:56:34that once was it site plans or how far along

0:56:38will the project be when those kinds of designs

0:56:41are brought to design, review and planning

0:56:43And what kind of decision making will be happening

0:56:47at those meetings Just so that we all understand

0:56:50and are on the same page.

0:56:52So we are working.

0:56:54We meet regularly with the developers and to to work

0:56:56through some of this.

0:56:57Again, given the state legislation and some

0:56:59of birthrights, the developers.

0:57:01But we will be very similar to other specific plan projects

0:57:05that have gone through.

0:57:07So the program am how much housing.

0:57:09It has how much parking it has.

0:57:10That isn't something that the city will be the decision maker

0:57:14on that is going to be part in the developer

0:57:16economic feasibility and other issues in terms

0:57:19of replacement parking.

0:57:20But once that comes how it's laid out

0:57:22on the site and the typical review

0:57:26in terms of both aesthetic and kind of public

0:57:29how it how it interacts with the community, that will all be

0:57:32at the Planning Commission Design Review Board

0:57:35if this project is a tier four project as some of you

0:57:40know, it would go to the planning commission,

0:57:42but it's likely a state density bonus affordable housing

0:57:46project, sort of probably just be at the design review board,

0:57:49although I think early on, prior to their actually

0:57:51being an application, we would be doing joint study sessions

0:57:55that there there's input from both bodies and the public

0:57:59Similarly, we're working out.

0:58:01But because the site provides transportation access

0:58:04to BART station, the so the program needs to meet goals,

0:58:09parts, Todd objectives and the transportation

0:58:14access issues are going to be jointly reviewed.

0:58:17So when we do receive an application both getting up

0:58:20to the application and when we receive one,

0:58:21both BART in the city will be jointly reviewing it.

0:58:24But the entitlement will look pretty much

0:58:26like a regular specific plan projected rate

0:58:29with certain development levels allowed by right parking

0:58:32being defined by other ways.

0:58:35But design will be reviewed similarly, as others Thank you.

0:58:40Can i first asked city clerk, can you

0:58:42go back of the grid view until we get

0:58:46through with our questions ?

0:58:48thank you very much.

0:58:49Council member Rubberneck Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

0:58:53Quick question about Passell A can you go into a little bit

0:58:56more detail about what makes Passell a different you briefly

0:59:00talked about it in the presentation

0:59:02but it would be nice for public interest

0:59:04to know the difference of Percelay and B, C and D. Yeah

0:59:08so the other parcels are all a part of the specific plan.

0:59:12So they are reviewed the form base code that was

0:59:15adopted for the specific plan.

0:59:16Passell a parcel D is a funny one because it is also

0:59:21east of the tracks and somehow it was

0:59:23included in the specific plan.

0:59:24The other parcel is east of the tracks

0:59:26and no other parcels are in the specific plan area.

0:59:29So it currently has what's called something

0:59:33that we haven't actually used.

0:59:34But I think it's called transit mixed use was something

0:59:36that zoning ordinance.

0:59:38But it's much lower density.

0:59:39Thirty five dwelling units, an acre

0:59:41with some up to seventy five senior housing

0:59:44or others maybe twenty nine.

0:59:46Twenty three on the other hand, pulls it in to the seven story

0:59:52by right.

0:59:53Development that we have to zone for

0:59:56and what actually ends up happening there.

0:59:58However, is partly what the developer is working out.

1:00:01What, what is, what is it.

1:00:03They're going to propose and what mechanism So

1:00:05we're kind of in conversations about that right now.

1:00:07How much AB nine Twenty twenty three.

1:00:09I think where we're looking is it will likely

1:00:12go through our design review but it won't be a specific plan

The project's size was given, with the caveat that everything remains provisional.

The number: “about seven fifty to eight” hundred and fifty “units, approximately, depending on the site plan.”

The developer proposed 94 “missing middle” units, which are not subsidized. Abelson, who does not drive, asked whether shuttles could bring hill residents to the station; staff said transportation options would be studied.

Motoyama, disclosing that her company has Satellite Affordable Housing Associates as a client but is not working on this project, asked how the approvals would work — “how far along will the project be when those kinds of designs are brought to design review and planning, and what kind of decision making will be happening at those meetings.”

The answer set expectations carefully: “given the state legislation and some of” the developer's by-right entitlements, the process would be “very similar to other specific plan projects that have gone through.”

The amount of housing and parking is not the city's decision; layout and design go to the Design Review Board, and possibly the Planning Commission, with BART and the city reviewing the application jointly.

Rudnick asked about Parcel A, east of the tracks and outside the specific plan: it is zoned transit mixed use at 35 units an acre, but AB 2923 brings it up to seven stories by right; how it is developed is still being worked out.

Significant

750 to 850 homes across phases, half income-restricted from 30% of median income upward. Staff said the amount of housing and parking is not the city's decision; layout and design are reviewed by the Design Review Board and possibly the Planning Commission.

11 Property tax, and what density brings captions 1042–1122

1:00:16It will be a B twenty nine.

1:00:17Twenty three client.

1:00:19It doesn't mean however and Bart will say this again a B twenty

1:00:23nine twenty three doesn't dictate

1:00:24what the actual development on that site is.

1:00:26It just makes you allow for that So it's very much going

1:00:29to be developed by really Bart and the developer

1:00:32looking what program they want.

1:00:33And then us and then determining the process

1:00:36So we do hope that it will go through design review.

1:00:39But the level of intensity is still

1:00:41having to be determined and proposed by the developer

1:00:45and their concept has had some concepts for it.

1:00:48And they can walk through those parcels

1:00:50a little bit in their presentation Hope that helped.

1:00:52It's a little bit one of those.

1:00:53We're still working it out, answers Thank

1:00:56you for the clarification.

1:00:58And Melanie, sB thirty five apply that lot, which

1:01:02is that could we were trying.

1:01:06So yes, maybe and maybe not so the city, as you know,

1:01:10is actually exempt from SB thirty

1:01:12because we've been meeting our housing needs.

1:01:15But how SB thirty five gets pulled into AB twenty nine.

1:01:18Twenty three is something still being examined OK,

1:01:23and the other questions from other council

1:01:24members I have a couple.

1:01:28I just wanted to reiterate with our city staff

1:01:30that SB twenty nine twenty Three really means.

1:01:33This is the part project the state law created legislation

1:01:39to say BART should proceed with all haste on tody on property.

1:01:44And that's what we've got here.

1:01:45But I appreciate the relationship that we have.

1:01:48And the goals that we discussed with Bart whether it

1:01:51be the library retail or workspace that they're

1:01:56considering But we need to make sure that relationship

1:01:59holds briefly.

1:02:01Melanie, I was hoping you could just touch on again

1:02:04the financial atrip It's that we will be getting

1:02:08from this development and maybe the community benefits

1:02:13that we might get from this So the financial some of this.

1:02:17So, again, a brief answer will be kind of examining

1:02:20this further as we go along.

1:02:21But I think the market rate development

1:02:25while the land part if you have a question for BARBET,

1:02:28the land will be continued to be owned by BART,

1:02:30but that built improvements on the top.

1:02:32Will be long term leases to the developers Affordable housing

1:02:38has exemptions from paying property taxes,

1:02:40but the market will be taxed like any other new development

1:02:44will So until we know the size of that development

1:02:49and we have a lot of numbers.

1:02:50But I'm going to go out on a limb

1:02:52and have done some calculations and about.

1:02:55I think you and communicated.

1:02:56It's about the property tax will probably

1:02:58go from zero like this today to maybe 250 thousand dollars,

1:03:02let's say And again, we will also be able to analyze

1:03:05in future times.

1:03:06We'd be happy to come back with you.

1:03:07There's all kinds of other ways to measure the benefits

1:03:10of those people living in town.

1:03:12The purchasing power of course, the development

1:03:15will also pay for all of the development review fees.

1:03:17The transportation impact fees and various other pieces

1:03:20that the city has in place.

1:03:23Community benefits.

1:03:23I think we've talked about some of them already right.

1:03:25So projects and so high level of affordability with deep levels

1:03:30of affordable missing middle housing either a library

1:03:35or new commercial development opens

1:03:37based art And this collaborative process between the city

1:03:41and the developer to look potentially both

1:03:44bringing in the density that helps

1:03:45support microbial options more.

1:03:47It's been hard to get things like city, car share and others

1:03:50here, so the density helps bring some of those things

1:03:52that you see in other places.

1:03:53To support apartment living And so those things will continue.

1:04:00But those are a quick, brief list and enhancements

1:04:03to the Aloni Greenway integration to downtown

Asked about SB 35, staff said the city is exempt because it is meeting its housing goals, but how SB 35 interacts with AB 2923 was still being examined. The Mayor then asked about the money, and the answers separate what the developer pays from what the city does.

On land: “the land will continue to be owned by BART, but the built improvements on top will be long term leases to the developers.”

On tax: affordable housing “has exemptions from paying property taxes, but the market” rate housing “will be taxed like any other new development.”

The estimate offered, with a caveat: “the property tax will probably go from zero, like it is today, to maybe 250 thousand dollars.”

The site currently produces none, being publicly owned.

Plus “all of the development review fees, the transportation impact fees and various other pieces.”

On other benefits: the density would help bring services that have been hard to attract — “it's been hard to get things like city car share and others here, so the density helps.”

Plus “enhancements to the Ohlone Greenway” and “integration to downtown.”

And on housing targets: the project is “about halfway toward our goals in the next cycle.”

12 Pigeonholed captions 1123–1133

1:04:06So I think it's really from an urban design standpoint,

1:04:08they'll be a big community benefits.

1:04:11OK, and finally, there is a question I

1:04:14what I'm hoping to ask the developer,

1:04:16because i see on his plans he's already

1:04:19established where I library will be and how big it will be.

1:04:23And I'm hoping we will have a full city discuss about what

1:04:26our needs are for our library whether it's community

1:04:30space, a cafe, whatever we want before we're kind of Pigeon

1:04:33old into something that's already been created

1:04:36So I just want to lay that out there.

The Mayor raised a sequencing problem about the library.

What he had noticed in the drawings: “he's already established where [the] library will be and how big it will be.”

What he wanted first: “a full city discussion about what our needs are for our library — whether it's community space, a cafe, whatever we want.”

His concern: “before we're kind of pigeonholed into something that's already been created.”

Significant

The developer's site plan already shows the library's size and position, before the city has discussed what it wants a library to be. Two versions exist, with and without a library. Staff said the project would take the city about halfway toward its goals in the next housing cycle.

13 “The library would be ours” captions 1134–1190

1:04:38Council member Avildsen another question.

1:04:40Yeah, this all sounds great.

1:04:43What we're talking about.

1:04:44I was just wondering how we were paying for it.

1:04:48And so another community benefit.

1:04:49I did want to mention the development numbers It's

1:04:52about halfway towards our goals in the next cycle, which is,

1:04:56as you've all heard, the range goals

1:04:58are going to be quite high in terms of moderate income.

1:05:00And I do know the developer and the other team,

1:05:03so I will definitely you, Mayor, you get to choose

1:05:06and I will keep answering questions.

1:05:07I know the others are eager to present as well.

1:05:12The question I had I think didn't get answered at all.

1:05:14Yeah, so then how will this be paid for this Right.

1:05:17There's various various aspects of this project

1:05:20The affordable housing will be seeking tax credits

1:05:24And it might be a question you can ask the Affordable housing

1:05:26developer, but they will be like our other affordable housing

1:05:29projects, tax credits and grants I think between the part

1:05:32and the city And the developer will be pursuing

1:05:34grants for affordable housing and for

1:05:36certain public improvements.

1:05:38Transportation access, improvements,

1:05:40and then the market in housing.

1:05:41You can also ask that developer that they

1:05:43go through standard financing economic analysis to make sure

1:05:48that it's financially feasible that the product

1:05:51that they're developing is market

1:05:53based They'll be paying for it.

1:05:57Oh, that's right.

1:05:57Developer, the developer will be doing the fund

1:06:00raising That's a part of when you select a team like this

1:06:02in the library would be our.

1:06:06That's the library would be ours.

1:06:08And we have to figure out what those mechanisms are

1:06:10and what it would cost in a development like this

1:06:13and what kind of ways we could potentially make

1:06:16it something within our reach.

1:06:18If with something.

1:06:18But that would be something as the mayor just said,

1:06:21we'd have to engage you in the public

1:06:23to kind of determine what it was,

1:06:25make some decisions some trade offs to determine what brings

1:06:27it to something maybe more feasible

1:06:29and then look at potential financing mechanisms

1:06:33And the the thing I was mentioning

1:06:34about having shuttles or something that brings people

1:06:38in from the hills who would pay for to me

1:06:44that study and then the cost implementation.

1:06:47So who would pay for that ?

1:06:50Those are all things that would have to that are

1:06:52still going to be determined.

1:06:53And I think when rachel factor from BART

1:06:55is able to give your presentation on things

1:06:56that she's looking at but those are items still

1:06:59to be determined.

Abelson asked the direct question: “how we were paying for it.”

The answer by component: affordable housing through “tax credits and grants”; market rate through standard financing, since “they'll be paying for it”; public improvements through grants pursued jointly.

Then the library: “the library would be ours.”

Meaning the city would have to “figure out what those mechanisms are and what it would cost… and what kind of ways we could potentially make it something within our reach.”

Abelson's follow-up about shuttles “that bring people in from the hills” got the same answer: “who would pay for that… [is] still going to be determined.”

Significant

The developer pays for the housing; the library would be the city's own cost, with no mechanism yet identified. Property tax on the site would go from zero to about $250,000, since BART land is untaxed. The library financial analysis promised in November 2023 is never released.

14 Twenty thousand homes by 2040 captions 1191–1431

1:07:01Thank you.

1:07:02Let's move on to the budget presentation.

1:07:04If there's no more questions Rachel

1:07:09and can we identify Shana sanandaj

1:07:12from BART and rachel Factor ?

1:07:14I think Shannon is going to start, though.

1:07:16Thank you very much.

1:07:17Please identify yourself some.

1:07:19Let's go Good evening.

1:07:21I'm Shannon Can you hear me ?

1:07:24Yes great query.

1:07:26Mayor Fidele and council members I'm Shannon Dodgin.

1:07:30I'm our principal property development officer

1:07:33and I work in the transit oriented development group.

1:07:35And I'm here tonight because I'm the lead

1:07:38on transit or development at the Ulcerated plaza Station.

1:07:42Melany walked you through what transit oriented development is

1:07:45and also the reasons that the city chose to encourage it

1:07:48and it very much shares those same reasons,

1:07:51like wanting to reduce greenhouse gas emissions

1:07:54and to ensure that lower income household too often

1:07:57live without a car have access to BART

1:08:00But really, the overarching reason we're advancing, Todd,

1:08:03throughout our system is to increase ridership

1:08:05and it really makes sense that if people live

1:08:07adjacent to a station, they're more

1:08:09likely to use Bart both for their commute

1:08:11and for other kinds of trips.

1:08:13And in fact, we've commissioned research

1:08:15to confirm that that is true.

1:08:17So attracting more riders to BART

1:08:18is a key reason why our board has adopted

1:08:21ambitious goals for Todd One of those goals

1:08:24is to create twenty thousand new homes on our property

1:08:28across all of our stations by twenty 40.

1:08:30And of that housing, we aim to thirty five percent

1:08:33affordable with a priority to low and very low

1:08:35income households.

1:08:36Todd at El Cerrito Plaza has the potential

1:08:39to be an important part of that vision of Equitable

1:08:42Todd A recent change in the law that has touched on

1:08:49should make it easier for us to achieve those goals.

1:08:52AB twenty nine twenty three signed into law in twenty

1:08:55eighteen and it does zone most park property for Todd

1:09:00and less developers Those streamlined sB

1:09:03thirty five style planning approvals

1:09:06But because it was very forward thinking,

1:09:10zoning that you have through this pablo Avenue specific plan

1:09:14already lines for the most part with what a B twenty

1:09:17nine Twenty three requires And just a reminder that a B twenty

1:09:24nine twenty three is about the maximum zoning envelope, which

1:09:28is the box that you see on the left in this example

1:09:32But it is it does not specify what a development

1:09:37needs to look like.

1:09:38It's really important to keep in mind

1:09:40that buildings will look different from that box

1:09:42on the left would be more like what you see

1:09:44on the right with open spaces in between them and variety

1:09:47of different heights and so on.

1:09:51So you have briefly about the public events that aren't

1:09:54hosted with the city in twenty nineteen Luckily

1:09:56before the pandemic, when folks could actually get together

1:09:59like you see here in person even before those events,

1:10:02Bart conducted a writer survey in early twenty nineteen

1:10:05and we got an input from that writer

1:10:07Servais more input from the two open houses at the station,

1:10:11like the one you see in the picture here.

1:10:14And then at a community workshop that we held in October.

1:10:17Twenty nineteen and perhaps some of you were there more

1:10:21And and fifty people actually came out to the Hunter Gardens

1:10:24Senior Center to Thursday evening

1:10:26and October twenty nineteen to weigh

1:10:28in on the goals and objectives for transit

1:10:31oriented development.

1:10:31And we got great feedback, especially around how

1:10:35passengers get to and from Plaza Station,

1:10:38which what we call in transit station access

1:10:42That's a topic that you're going to hear

1:10:43more about in just a moment.

1:10:45So all of the input was critical in shaping the goals

1:10:48and objectives at this council.

1:10:50Ultimately adopted in November.

1:10:52Twenty, nineteen and Goals and Objectives document

1:10:55is included in the packet for this evening's meeting.

1:10:58As I'm sure you saw And that is what is guiding our efforts

1:11:02to create TOD at Plaza.

1:11:05So building on the foundation of those goals and objectives

1:11:09we crafted a request for qualifications that clearly

1:11:13communicated the priorities of the city

1:11:15and BART to interested developers.

1:11:17And we were fortunate to receive Four

1:11:20really strong submittals even given

1:11:23this was released in July.

1:11:24Twenty, twenty when covid-19 was making everyone's head spin

1:11:31the submittals were scored by a selection panel that included

1:11:34both Bart staff and staff of the city of El Reno

1:11:38and that panel also interviewed each of the four teams

1:11:41and ultimately recommended the team of holiday development.

1:11:45The related companies of California and sarà

1:11:48our satellite Affordable Housing Associates And then

1:11:52the panel's recommendation was accepted by Bahts Board,

1:11:55which passed a resolution on November 19.

1:11:58Last year authorizing BART to enter

1:12:00into an exclusive negotiating agreement with that team.

1:12:06So our developer team is comprised of two

1:12:10companies, holiday and related.

1:12:12And then the nonprofit developer Zaha

1:12:14And this team Rose to the top first

1:12:17and foremost because of their past work They've developed,

1:12:20they've demonstrated success with recent projects that

1:12:24are really similar to what we might like

1:12:27to see at El Segundo Plaza.

1:12:29You can see, of course, Mayfair apartments.

1:12:31That's a rendering.

1:12:32Now, It's a real thing The selection panel also

1:12:36found that the development concept that was sketched out

1:12:39by this team was able to strike the best

1:12:41balance among the various and somewhat

1:12:44sometimes competing goals and objectives

1:12:46that we had set for the site.

1:12:48Their concept shows a mix of different housing types, market

1:12:52rate housing, traditional affordable housing missing

1:12:55middle housing As you mentioned, so really across the spectrum

1:13:00And then finally, this team brings a wealth of experience

1:13:03with community engagement including some that they

1:13:07have done in El Cerrito itself.

1:13:08And they have very strong knowledge This community.

1:13:13So I'd like to hand it off.

1:13:15Now to my colleague Rachel factor.

1:13:16Of course, I'll stick around for questions afterwards.

1:13:19And Rachel will discuss how Baat plans to address what we heard

1:13:23from community members about station access Rachel,

1:13:33you're muted stock showing that you're muted,

1:13:39but we cannot hear you Well, she's getting unmuted out

1:13:49to say that Rachel is a principal planner

1:13:51and she's a station planner for the radio station and she

1:13:55manages access related planning efforts for this transit

1:13:59oriented development uh still cannot hear you until

1:14:09it does show that your audio is connected

1:14:11that it's not working.

1:14:11Perhaps you can try calling in with a phone

1:14:14to the phone number.

1:14:15We can connect the audio that way.

1:14:22While she's doing that, I'll touch on the BART policies

1:14:26that the board has adopted that play

1:14:28a really strong role in how we do

1:14:30business around station access.

1:14:32So most notably in twenty sixteen

1:14:35the BART board adopted policies and performance targets

1:14:39for transit oriented development station access

1:14:42that you see summarized here.

1:14:44And these policies support valuing land next BART stations

1:14:48further crucial role that they'll

1:14:49play in reducing greenhouse gas emissions

1:14:51and providing more housing.

1:14:54So the image that you see on the right,

1:14:56the big arrow shows that our highest priority is to provide

1:14:59access for people who walk followed by those who bike

1:15:03to take transit, who get dropped off

1:15:06and finally, for parking Rachel, just checking And I

1:15:12see that now you're actually showing up as muted,

1:15:15not hearing you just yet until I need to know what you're

1:15:19the last numbers of your phone number are to meet you See,

1:15:32it's 1, 3, 4, 7 I believe it's going to be one three,

1:15:37four seven Are you seeing that number I don't to have

1:15:44a calling user tried to push that through,

1:15:47but doesn't look like that.

1:15:50Rachel, are you still connected on the phone ?

1:15:57is it for seven, five, six that's connected by phone ?

1:16:02No i see a two, six, nine or four five zero It doesn't She's

1:16:10still trying to get An all relate

1:16:20to this issue going on here.

1:16:23Well, i will carry on and try to cover Rachel's material,

1:16:26even though she knows it far better than I do.

1:16:28And definitely needs to be the one to answer the questions

1:16:31on it.

1:16:34Rachel, it looks like you should have

1:16:36the station ID the meeting.

1:16:38I did not get on so bART station access policy aims to reduce

1:16:43greenhouse gas emissions by increasing

1:16:45the number of people who walk and bike from forty 4%

1:16:49to fifty 2%.

1:16:51And we want to do that by making it safer and easier

1:16:54to access part in those ways.

1:16:56These targets are based on system

1:16:58wide trends between eight and twenty fifteen.

1:17:02When Bart's ridership increased while at the same time,

1:17:06the number of parking spaces stations stayed the same

1:17:10That meant obviously people were figuring out other ways

1:17:12to get to the stations.

1:17:15El Cerrito Plaza offers a major opportunity

1:17:17to meet these goals, since it already

1:17:19offers support of walking and biking environment

1:17:22around the station,

1:17:23which will only be enhanced with the feature of Albert a key

1:17:32issue in the community outreach that you've heard about has

1:17:36been and most likely will continue to be station access

1:17:39since we expect that the seven forty BART Rider parking spaces

1:17:44that you're familiar with in the three blocks will only be

1:17:48partially replaced So it's important to understand how

1:17:51people are getting to the station We're getting

1:17:53to the station before covid this chart helps us understand

1:17:57the station access between two thousand eight inlight blue

1:18:01and then twenty fifteen an orange based on our most recent

1:18:05system wide data We see here that being

1:18:09a neighborhood station the most popular

1:18:10way for people to get to

1:18:12Plaza is by walking at around thirty eight percent

1:18:16and in around sixty 6% or two thirds of BART

1:18:19riders walk bike, ride the bus or get

1:18:22dropped off at the station.

1:18:24And then that is the remaining thirty 4%

1:18:26who drive and park and that percentage is down from forty

1:18:30one percent in two thousand eight.

1:18:34The station Rachel is that you getting on Yes.

1:18:39I'm so sorry.

1:18:40Can everyone hear me.

1:18:41Yeah.

1:18:42I hear you just fine.

1:18:43And thank for having such great notes on your presentation.

1:18:46So that I can start running for you.

1:18:48I actually let's see where you are.

1:18:51OK i covered most of the notes on this

1:18:56except for the bike parking All right.

1:19:02So Shannon, walk through the the trends from twenty eight

1:19:08to twenty fifteen and i just want

1:19:13to make I'm not sure where Shannon shannon, where did

1:19:16you live Off It was distracted.

1:19:17I just.

1:19:19Yeah, I just covered a trans so up to the point

1:19:24where driving and parking is down

1:19:26from forty one percent to thirty four percent OK, all right.

1:19:30So let's go on to the next slide then.

1:19:33And thank you for covering.

1:19:35Absolutely.

1:19:37All right.

1:19:38So this map shows the same twenty fifteen data

1:19:41from the previous slide, but really zooms

1:19:44in on where people are coming from

1:19:46and how they are getting to the station using different modes

1:19:50And that's indicated by the different colored dots.

BART presented its own reasons, which overlap the city's.

The shared ones: “wanting to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and to ensure that lower income household[s], too often liv[ing] without a car, have access to BART.”

But the overarching one is different: “the overarching reason we're advancing TOD throughout our system is to increase ridership.”

The logic: “if people live adjacent to a station, they're more likely to use BART both for their commute and for other kinds of trips” — and “we've commissioned research to confirm that that is true.”

The board's targets: “twenty thousand new homes on our property across all of our stations by twenty 40,” of which “we aim [for] thirty five percent affordable, with a priority to low and very low income households.”

The legal change that helps: AB 2923, “signed into law in twenty eighteen,” which zones most BART property for such development and gives developers “streamlined” approvals.

And why El Cerrito is ahead: “because it was very forward thinking, [the] zoning that you have through the San Pablo Avenue specific plan already aligns for the most part with what AB 2923 requires.”

A caution about the diagrams: the law concerns “the maximum zoning envelope… the box that you see on the left,” and “buildings will look different from that box.”

Four teams had responded to the request for qualifications released in July 2020; a panel of BART and city staff recommended Holliday Development, Related California and Satellite Affordable Housing Associates, and BART's board approved an exclusive negotiating agreement on 19 November 2020.

BART expects the 740 rider parking spaces to be only partly replaced. In 2015, 38% of Plaza riders walked and about two-thirds walked, biked, took the bus or were dropped off; 34% drove and parked, down from 41% in 2008.

Significant

BART's reason for building housing is ridership — its board has committed to 20,000 homes across its stations by 2040, 35% affordable. AB 2923 zones BART land for this and streamlines approval, and El Cerrito's 2014 specific plan already aligns for the most part with it, which is why the city is not scrambling to rezone.

15 Who drives to the Plaza captions 1432–1490

1:19:52And we have purple for walking for bike for bus,

1:19:57orange for drop off and red for drive and park

1:20:00and the average distance traveled by almost

1:20:03to get to the station.

1:20:04So this is looking at every single way

1:20:06that people are getting there is really short.

1:20:09It's less than a mile.

1:20:10And for walking it's about half mile or on a ten minute walk.

1:20:13And that's with the purple dots and you'll

1:20:17see a clustering of them within the half mile, first half mile

1:20:19circle And for driving, it's about one

1:20:22One point four miles shown not shown in the red dots.

1:20:25Again and that's much lower than what we see system

1:20:28wide, which is around two point six miles.

1:20:30And it's worth noting that many of the red dots

1:20:33with within close proximity to the station

1:20:36and our overlap with other colors indicating potential

1:20:39for getting to Plaza or even Reno del Norte If you see

1:20:43to the left sorry, to the north, there

1:20:46are multiple red dots people that are going that live very

1:20:49close to the Nazi but are actually driving parking

1:20:51at the Plaza with so indicating there

1:20:56are people who don't necessarily need to be need to park.

1:20:59Recognizing also that there are real barriers for some

1:21:02to get to the station, such as the topographical constraints

1:21:05and limited bus connecting to the east as well

1:21:08as possible safety considerations

1:21:10of crossing some public to the west.

1:21:13The next slide please And these are some of the results

1:21:18of the twenty nineteen survey that

1:21:20was part of the outreach efforts that I mentioned earlier.

1:21:23And these results really reflect a lot

1:21:25of what we heard the other community events

1:21:28that she mentioned as well.

1:21:30So consistent with our twenty fifteen data,

1:21:33about half the respondents walk or bike to the station

1:21:36of those who drive alone.

1:21:38Many are coming from within a mile do so

1:21:42because it's more convenient.

1:21:44It's faster People pick up and drop off duties to people need

1:21:47to run errands Some some reported that they live too far

1:21:50away, that is around thirty 2% and a few reported that they

1:21:54have mobility challenge around three percent and around

1:21:58a third of our riders who drive in Park reported that they use

1:22:01the streets in the surrounding neighborhoods and under

1:22:05a hypothetical scenario where we asked people how would you get

1:22:08to your destination if no parking where available

1:22:11street or plaza parking lot ?

1:22:13The majority said that they would figure out another way

1:22:15to get to the station by walking, biking, or taking

1:22:18transit and others would use another station notably

1:22:21Ulcerated del Norte de some said that they would walk or bike

1:22:25or take transit directly for their destinations,

1:22:27which considering transit with a transit services.

1:22:31That's definitely seems like a real opportunity.

1:22:34And a few people that they wouldn't make the trip at all

1:22:37and about six percent said that they would drive long carpool

1:22:39or take over and live directly to their destinations.

1:22:43Over half the responding to express concerns

BART's access data: about half of Plaza riders walk or bike; those who drive and park come from about 1.4 miles away on average, against 2.6 miles systemwide, and many live close enough not to need to. It acknowledged real barriers — the hills, limited bus connections to the east, and crossing San Pablo Avenue to the west.

In the 2019 survey, drivers cited convenience, errands and drop-offs; about a third of those who park use the surrounding streets. Asked how they would travel if no parking were available, most said they would walk, bike, take transit or use Del Norte instead; about 6% would drive or ride-hail all the way.

16 A corridor, not a station captions 1491–1721

1:22:46about passenger safety and comfort,

1:22:48including safety issues along the Greenway particularly

1:22:51the need for more lighting at night

1:22:53and around 40 percent who drive in parks that they would be

1:22:56willing to try new mobility services such as electric bikes

1:22:59or scooters, shuttle buses council

1:23:02member Avildsen mentioned or potentially

1:23:05Microtel next slide, please.

1:23:10So this information from the surveys and the community

1:23:14outreach and other data sources are going to help inform how we

1:23:18are planning for future access to the station and the first is

1:23:24the it's kind of a mouthful but it's the Berkeley quarter

1:23:27access plan, which is a corridor wide approach to thinking about

1:23:31access to BART that is being funded through a grant that we

1:23:35got from Caltrans and the map the right shows the BART line

1:23:38running from ashby and the toddies at our Planet Plaza

1:23:42north Berkeley and Ashby And why are we doing a quarter

1:23:46wide study and why Why now ?

1:23:49When planning for Todd Bart typically only does a station

1:23:53specif access plan, which I'll get into more

1:23:56detail on in a few slides and but considering

1:24:00that these three stations are planned for development

1:24:04in the very near future, all at the same time

1:24:08some amount parking will be removed across three stations.

1:24:12Bart wanted to take a comprehensive look

1:24:14at how riders from the communities surrounding

1:24:16the stations, including Ulcerate, berkeley, Richmond,

1:24:19Albany kensington and others, could

1:24:21access it along the corridor, not just at penn Station.

1:24:25Next, please bart will work with partner cities and agencies

1:24:30in affected communities to explore different access

1:24:32options Moving Ford Focus, especially on the needs

1:24:35of riders who have historically driven driven to the stations

1:24:39And we'll be looking at new exit strategies, as well as how

1:24:42to take advantage of many of the existing alternatives

1:24:46are out there now with transit service shuttles,

1:24:49bike routes and existing parking varsity.

1:24:53Next slide, please.

1:24:55So this slide shows some of the multiple categories of access

1:24:58that we'll be exploring together with our partner jurisdictions

1:25:01and agencies, technology that our writers have very different

1:25:04needs requiring multiple options to get to the station

1:25:07as many of these strategies are off our property will be

1:25:10working together with our partners

1:25:12to seek funding and determine, implement strategies

1:25:15and just to point out a few of these again,

1:25:18what we heard an outreach for walking, for example,

1:25:21improve street lighting is something that we'll

1:25:24be exploring and how that can impact people's decisions

1:25:28to walk or bike or really take transit Lighting would

1:25:31benefit everybody looking at secure bike

1:25:34parking for various sizes.

1:25:36That's something we heard a lot in our outreach to accommodate

1:25:39families who might use cargo bikes

1:25:41or persons with mobility challenges

1:25:44to use tricycles looking at bus service and reliability

1:25:48enhancements together with AC transit

1:25:52and for on site part customer parking looking to continue

1:25:57accommodating parking for persons with disabilities,

1:26:00exploring better ways to manage the demand for our parking

1:26:03through potential pricing mechanisms,

1:26:05exploring shared parking with the future development,

1:26:08and for offsite parking Melanie Melanie mentioned

1:26:11that exploring a city led parking management strategies

1:26:15around the stations together with the city and next slide,

1:26:20please.

1:26:24So in addition to the quarter plan in the very near term,

1:26:27Bart will be initiating a station

1:26:29specific access plan that will be

1:26:31funded by the developer team.

1:26:33And this access plan focuses on preserving and enhancing

1:26:37ways for passengers to get to the station

1:26:39When one city's introduced and the access

1:26:42plan will get into detail on specific site

1:26:45layout and site design.

1:26:47Sites circulation to consider all the ways that people will

1:26:49get to and from and circulate through the site and the access

1:26:52plan will also determine the the BART parking replacement

1:26:56decisions And so I that's really an overview of

1:27:01the different planning efforts.

1:27:02And I want to point out the we're

1:27:04going to have multiple Melanie also spoke to this,

1:27:06but just specific to station access,

1:27:09we're going to have multiple engagement

1:27:11opportunities through throughout the next several months.

1:27:14And we'll be notifying the council and the public

1:27:18all these opportunities that are upcoming

1:27:21and with that, I'm going to hand it off to the the city

1:27:24development team Hi.

1:27:49This is an Silvereye Before we launch it,

1:27:51were there questions for BART or do you want to just go

1:27:54in to our presentation ? i wanted to say, yeah,

1:27:59i wanted to break in between each

1:28:01of our council members had questions City Council

1:28:03member of Hand Thank you.

1:28:05Yes.

1:28:06Thank you.

1:28:07This slide Is this is a system wide or is this specific

1:28:15Freedom Plaza This is system OK, do we have

1:28:20the data for Elstree plaza ?

1:28:23Yes.

1:28:24The data in the next slide and slide twelve

1:28:27provides the two thousand eight in twenty fifteen data.

1:28:31We don't have specific targets.

1:28:35Project targets for twenty twenty five for pausa

1:28:39Thank you for the clarification.

1:28:41Any other questions Comments from remote Mohtarma Thank you.

1:28:49I did have a clarifying question because you explained

1:28:52what micro transit is Yeah.

1:28:57This, this is really there's lots of terms

1:29:00for this mobility, emerging mobility

1:29:03But looking at potential potential shuttle services

1:29:08on demand, shuttle services could also

1:29:10include shared shared electric bikes or scooters and probably

1:29:17lots of other things that we'll hear about in the next year.

1:29:21Future mobility Anyone else I just have one comment for Bart.

1:29:30I was really glad to hear council member Abels

1:29:33and talk about the Hill residents like Berkeley

1:29:39where geographically challenged and if we're taking parking

1:29:43away, I know a lot of the people who live in the hills

1:29:45think they're being good environment by coming down

1:29:47and parking and taking Bart.

1:29:49I'm hearing from Kensington and LCB people

1:29:53And I think the shuttle idea is a good one if we can afford it.

1:29:56I'm not sure about where the money comes from,

1:29:59but One thing I wanted to say, and I'm

1:30:01hoping aC Transit is listening we

1:30:03need buses to continue up in the hills.

1:30:06It's a tough time for the bus systems

1:30:08but our city council has passed a bus

1:30:11only lane provision for the bridge to San Francisco.

1:30:15If we know they're going to be buses up there,

1:30:18that won't be going to San Francisco go.

1:30:20It takes some of that weight off of the problems

1:30:22off of the access issue.

1:30:24So I'm hoping that buses talking to AC transit and the shuttle

1:30:29issues will be part of the access study

1:30:33that's being undertaken.

1:30:35Yeah, that we are definitely engaged with AC transit.

1:30:39We've had a number of discussion We have

1:30:40a technical advisory group for the study

1:30:43and there they're definitely part of that.

1:30:45And we'll be continuing discussions with them

1:30:48and there there is an opportunity

1:30:51if there is reduced parking and increased density,

1:30:54it presents an opportunity for transit train and buses.

1:30:59Is one of them Mayor Pro ?

1:31:02Thank you.

1:31:03Me for mentioning that.

1:31:04And i've been since i have this vision back in twenty fifteen,

1:31:10I started talking to the former city manager

1:31:13about looking at this I had been in contact with our transit

1:31:20director said and know that contra Costa County, we have

1:31:24failed measures over and over when it comes

1:31:26to adding more bus service.

1:31:29But through the years folks have asked me to bring

1:31:33those neighborhood buses back.

1:31:35And if we did that I know we would have

1:31:38more people and more senior Take that down to the station

1:31:44like they used to.

1:31:45And especially students.

1:31:47So again, there's also testing projects aC Transit has worked

1:31:53on in other regions like Newburgh

1:31:57Fremont and the newburyport areas

1:32:00where they have a look at Dialla experiments

1:32:03and that same very successful Some of the areas and i

1:32:12believe they tested that also And the Castro Valley area

1:32:15So I'm hoping that they'll be able to look at that

1:32:20And, Chris, people's is definitely very supportive

1:32:23when it comes to TI d and the last mile home

1:32:27and and we do have the bicycle company that have been waiting

1:32:34or else, Cerita, to have those bikes return.

1:32:38Starita We're just waiting for the update

1:32:40and for the apartments to be built.

1:32:44And then they'll get that Rolling Stone very support

1:32:48of the transport station and working with AC transit

1:32:52and there was a bus bus station with that

1:32:57failed at the last election with reasonable bus service.

1:33:02We need to bring that back to the folks at pinole

1:33:05and Hercules And those areas will have dedicated bus service

1:33:11so they can bypass the BART station

1:33:16And we'll have more Esterina residents will be able to park

1:33:19if they so choose to do that.

1:33:21But it'll take the regional leadership

1:33:25and our transportation board's And

1:33:29they've been waiting for that.

1:33:30And then they told me they're on board

1:33:32and and I look forward to working

1:33:34with them in the future.

1:33:38And we move on to our development

1:33:44Thank you Welcome Andrew.

1:33:57Hello.

1:33:58Hi.

1:33:59Hopefully, you can hear me.

1:34:00Yeah, Mayor, members of the council my name

1:34:03is and Silverberg and I'm the CEO for Northern California.

1:34:07Affordable for related We're very excited to be here.

1:34:11I'm joined by two colleagues, Jamie Chu

1:34:13from holiday Development, as well as Andrew ghafar

1:34:17from related And you'll hear from both of them in a minute.

1:34:20We have other members who are also joining us this evening.

1:34:25But I don't think they'll be logged in to answer questions.

1:34:27So we'll do our best to answer any questions

1:34:30that you have this evening.

1:34:32I I want to start by saying we are

1:34:35incredibly excited and enthusiastic about

1:34:38this development opportunity.

1:34:39We are so thrilled to be partnering with the city of El

1:34:42Cerrito with all of you, with staff as well as with BART

1:34:46and many stakeholders and community members that will be

1:34:50participating in the process as we go We think this is

1:34:53an excellent opportunity to provide very much

1:34:57needed housing with a range of affordability

1:35:01from extreme low, very low, low moderate income all

1:35:05the way to market if this is a critical location,

1:35:09and it's a great opportunity beyond that,

1:35:11it's also an opportunity for placemaking as we've already

1:35:15been talking about with some of the benefits

1:35:18that are going to be located here

1:35:20and this critical access point It's also an opportunity

1:35:26for connection to connect some very important parts

1:35:29of the city of El Cerrito to other parts

1:35:32in this central location.

1:35:33The Aloni Greenway, the Plaza etc.

1:35:36as we're talking this evening, about our concept.

1:35:39I do want to reiterate that we're really

1:35:42at the beginning of the process A lot of work has gone into

1:35:45is already.

1:35:46We're very appreciative of all the way back to twenty

1:35:48sixteen as Melanie was describing

1:35:51the hard work of the city, as well as Bart

BART described studying access across three stations at once rather than this one alone.

The instrument: the Berkeley corridor access plan, “a corridor wide approach to thinking about access to BART” funded by a Caltrans grant.

Its scope runs from Ashby through North Berkeley to El Cerrito Plaza — the three stations where transit-oriented development was being advanced simultaneously.

Because development was planned at all three stations at the same time, some parking would be removed at each, so BART wanted to look at how riders from surrounding communities could reach any station along the corridor.

Rider survey work had been done in early 2019, before the pandemic, along with in-person community events.

A separate station access plan for the Plaza, funded by the developer team, would settle the replacement parking. The Mayor asked BART and AC Transit to keep buses running in the hills, and Quinto described his push since 2015 for neighborhood buses to bring seniors and students to the station.

The developer's framing of the opportunity: “very much needed housing with a range of affordability, from extremely low, very low, low, moderate income all the way to market.”

And beyond housing, “an opportunity for placemaking.”

Significant

Station access is being studied across the Ashby–North Berkeley–El Cerrito Plaza corridor, because parking would be removed at all three stations at once. A speaker later suggests putting replacement parking at the del Norte station rather than the Plaza.

17 The development team captions 1722–1847

1:35:54and the strong partnership It's already been formed

1:35:57and has been ongoing in this site.

1:36:00We're happy to be folding in, but we've only presented

1:36:03our initial concepts and we have a lot of work ahead of us

1:36:07We really have put together what we

1:36:11believe is a strong team to help us turn

1:36:14this vision into a reality.

1:36:17If we can move to the next slide,

1:36:19I'll talk a little bit about the team

1:36:20that we've put together for this development.

1:36:24Starting with the developers.

1:36:26Again, this is a large site and there are a lot of us involved.

1:36:30But we've all worked together in various ways in past projects.

1:36:35So this is a very strong team and we're

1:36:37bringing all of our experience and our perspectives

1:36:42to this opportunity So on the development side,

1:36:45we have holiday development.

1:36:47Who will be focusing on the market rate housing ?

1:36:50And then we have a partnership of related and satellite

1:36:53affordable housing associates Zaha on affordable.

1:36:57So we'll be partnering all of the affordable components

1:37:00We have a really strong design team.

1:37:03I'm so excited to be working with this combination

1:37:06of players.

1:37:07We have Piotr vanMeter, Williams and and Annique wiler Kyul

1:37:13working together on this site.

1:37:15Each one has a tremendous amount of experience

1:37:18with large scale master plan multiphase developments

1:37:23like this train it oriented a lot of baat, experience

1:37:28and coming together.

1:37:30It's even better.

1:37:31We are also working with yuppy and with Monica Wilson

1:37:38to engage with the community and also for local hiring.

1:37:42If we could go to the next slide,

1:37:43I'll talk a little bit about the Affordable team.

1:37:45And then I'll turn it over to Jamie to talk more

1:37:48about holiday So again, the affordable team

1:37:50consists of a partnership of related california

1:37:53and Zaha together both organizations

1:37:57have long histories and developing affordable housing

1:38:01in the East Bay.

1:38:02In the Bay Area, California over twenty thousand units

1:38:07of affordable housing have been developed by our two companies

1:38:10together.

1:38:11So a lot of affordable experience.

1:38:14Both of our organized patients really

1:38:16focus on quali city development quality in the design,

1:38:22in the construction in the ongoing management

1:38:25and maintenance.

1:38:26We're really concerned about bringing

1:38:28a lot of amenity to our residents, a lot of programs

1:38:31services and opportunities And we're also very focused

1:38:36and making sure that we fit in well

1:38:37with our surrounding community.

1:38:39We want to fit in seamlessly with our neighborhood,

1:38:43and that requires a lot of conversation

1:38:46and a lot of listening sessions with our surrounding neighbors

1:38:50to really understand what's important to them.

1:38:52And we look forward to starting that process.

1:38:55I'm going to turn it over now to Jamie,

1:38:57who's going to talk a little bit more about our team Thanks

1:39:02again.

1:39:03And mentioned my name is Jimmy Choo.

1:39:05I'm director of development with Holiday Development

1:39:08and to Echo and sentiments the entire holiday team is thrilled

1:39:12to be to have the opportunity to work on this development

1:39:15at the Freedom Plaza Station.

1:39:17We're thrilled to be able to build on the experience

1:39:21that we've already had working on the Mayfair project

1:39:23that Melanie mentioned up at the Del Norte station

1:39:26Holiday is a housing development organization with a thirty year

1:39:30history that's rooted in developing

1:39:32housing across income levels.

1:39:34We've a strong track record of working with affordable housing

1:39:37development partners to create mixed income communities

1:39:41with cohesive designs The Plaza Project

1:39:45represents the next step in our development of those efforts.

1:39:49We don't know how to develop these communities in a way that

1:39:53respects the existing community and also enhances

1:39:56it for the current residents.

1:39:58And the future residents at I think one of the great aspects

1:40:02of this team.

1:40:02And one of the reasons we were so excited to join together

1:40:05to respond to bark in the city's request publications

1:40:08is that while we're focusing on various components

1:40:12of the Project holiday, it was affordable housing very well

1:40:15through past work experience and related its market rate housing

1:40:18very well So we can take those experiences

1:40:21and conceptualize the project that is rooted in the community

1:40:25and does deliver on the priorities

1:40:27that the community identified along with us.

1:40:30But we also have the ability to make

1:40:31sure these are financial feasible projects,

1:40:33both in the near term for construction

1:40:35and for a long term assets for the city of Balser

1:40:39next one of the critical aspects of our team

1:40:45is factory owners and factories.

1:40:47Some members of community may be familiar

1:40:49with You may have seen some large boxes

1:40:52flying through the air up the Del Norte station

1:40:54the last few months.

1:40:56So factory West is an off site housing production

1:40:59company based in Maryland.

1:41:01It was founded truly with a focus figuring out

1:41:04how to bring down the cost of construction

1:41:06in order to facilitate more housing production

1:41:09and with particular focus on affordable housing.

1:41:11Whether that be the most deeply restricted, low income housing

1:41:15all the way through moderate housing,

1:41:17moderate housing excuse me, so our partnership with factory.

1:41:21Or is a team allows us to target populations

1:41:24across various income levels advance work, work force

1:41:29development goals of sustainable goals

1:41:32and do so more quickly than we would otherwise be able to do.

1:41:35Another critical component factor US

1:41:37is its strong partnership with the Northern

1:41:40California carpenters Union.

1:41:42All employees affect us our members union

1:41:46and again, one mission.

1:41:47In addition to bring the cost of construction

1:41:50for housing production is workforce development.

1:41:53And finally as I mentioned, sustainability The factory

1:41:56has partnerships with both private entities

1:41:58such as Autodesk and public entities such as HUD

1:42:00in the Department of Energy.

1:42:02We're really focused on sustainable building methods

The developers stressed they were at the beginning of the process. The team: Holliday Development for the market-rate housing, building on its Mayfair project at Del Norte, and a partnership of Related California and Satellite Affordable Housing Associates for the affordable homes — together more than 20,000 affordable units developed in the Bay Area — with a design team experienced in large multiphase transit sites and partners for community engagement and local hiring.

Holliday's partner Factory OS, an off-site builder whose modules were being installed at Del Norte, works with the Northern California Carpenters Union and aims to lower construction costs.

18 Open space first captions 1848–1996

1:42:04that we can evaluate in real time

1:42:06and deliver to our projects, including

1:42:08projects that will be able to develop the station

1:42:12Next slide, please.

1:42:16So again, we were incredibly excited to have the opportunity

1:42:19to respond to all the work that has already been done

1:42:22by the community in the city.

1:42:24And Bhakta the specific plan and the development

1:42:26of the view that we ultimately responded to our vision

1:42:31for the development builds on our combined expertise,

1:42:35expertise, excuse me, in creating

1:42:36these transformative master planning

1:42:38communities that deliver mixed housing on the site.

1:42:42Our in our response was created to focus on positioning

1:42:46the housing development in a manner that maximizes

1:42:48feasibility while providing sensible phasing options that

1:42:52will decrease the impact on the neighborhood

1:42:54through the build out process with our design partners we

1:42:59closely evaluated the best opportunities

1:43:01to deliver community amenities, whether the outdoor space

1:43:05or a library.

1:43:06As we've been talking about or reimagining the Bard

1:43:10Plaza Station entrance.

1:43:13But we made all of these decisions

1:43:14as we worked through our RFQ response fully understanding

1:43:17that this was truly the start of a conversation about the site

1:43:20plan whether it be the location of the library

1:43:24whether it be how folks would be able to access the station,

1:43:27be a bike or other sorts of transit options

1:43:32these are all ideas that we're bringing to the table in order

1:43:35to have a conversation that will really ramp up

1:43:37the next coming months as we work with the community

1:43:39and with BART on their access plan,

1:43:46so while this is a project that's taking place

1:43:49at a artist station in the zone, part land

1:43:51in this partnership with Art,

1:43:53we know that projects don't just happen at a park station,

1:43:56they happen in the existing community

1:43:58and the Elstree Plaza Station in particular, as we all know,

1:44:02sits at the junction of very, very many different parts

1:44:05of the street community.

1:44:07We have the core commercial corridor just adjacent

1:44:11to our site But at the same time,

1:44:13we have residential neighborhoods immediately

1:44:15adjacent a lot of different experiences with how people get

1:44:25to the station that will need to evaluate

1:44:27as we work through our community process

1:44:29over the next coming months.

1:44:32Next slide, please.

1:44:35As we worked through our response,

1:44:37we had a few guiding principles that we came up with again,

1:44:41going back to look at what community

1:44:43engagement already occurred.

1:44:45And working with some of our design professionals

1:44:48So one of the initial items we looked at before we even

1:44:51started a site, buildings on our site plan

1:44:53was the use of outdoor space as a community amenity in a way

1:44:58to integrate this development, ultimately into the community

1:45:02the delivery of open space or placemaking

1:45:04was a critical part of our visioning

1:45:06for this conceptual plan.

1:45:09Um, we've already talked a little bit tonight

1:45:11about the really strong NASA connections

1:45:13that already exists with the Aloni Greenway with San Pablo

1:45:17Avenue obviously, with the BART tracks

1:45:19So we thought about how can we start to create a little bit

1:45:21more connectivity from the east to the west

1:45:24as you have people getting to the station via different means

1:45:28of transportation.

1:45:30This development can truly serve not as an abrupt transition

1:45:35between types of uses but a community hub where people

1:45:37gather as they make their way from the plaza Shopping

1:45:40Center to the Park Station and to their homes

1:45:44in the neighborhoods surrounding this can really be

1:45:46an asset to the community as it's built out

1:45:50And then we've already touched on sustainability

1:45:53is a critical part of how we view

1:45:56this project from the delivery of outdoor space

1:45:59to how we deliver opportunities for alternative transportation

1:46:05methods, getting people to the site

1:46:07outside of single occupancy, car all the way down

1:46:10to how are we going constructed buildings, how we're going

1:46:12to reduce construction waste,

1:46:14how are we going to reduce the impact on the neighborhood

1:46:16These are all ideas that we had in mind

1:46:18as we've laid out this conceptual plan that will serve

1:46:20as a starting point for our conversation with you

1:46:23all Next slide, please.

1:46:26And once again, just evaluating where this site sits

1:46:30within the Ossorio community.

1:46:32We have these strong NASA connections transit

1:46:36between the Plaza station.

1:46:38The Del Norte station is very straightforward.

1:46:41Perhaps it's a little more challenging to work

1:46:43your way from east to west.

1:46:44So how can we position this this project to help facilitate

1:46:47some of that movement within the community ? next slide, please.

1:46:55And resiliency for the long term We're

1:46:57developing this project today.

1:46:59And we have the facts that we have

1:47:01and we have the history of the communities

1:47:02to help us even understand better.

1:47:05But we're also developing our future residents and folks who

1:47:07will move to El Salvador to live in this development

1:47:11to visit the local businesses or to move into other parts

1:47:15of the community.

1:47:17We want to make sure we're developing

1:47:18a developer for the long term.

1:47:20That, again serves as a community hub.

1:47:23That's a true asset for El and for next

1:47:30And so we start to land on our initial conceptual plan

1:47:35that we presented to park into the city as part

1:47:38of our response, again, as a starting point,

1:47:41taking into account what's everyone laid out in the RFQ

1:47:45as the priority is they learn from the neighborhood

1:47:48as they went through the specific plan

1:47:51and through the community meetings that touched on

1:47:54So we took great care to appropriately

1:47:56took place the open space in this conceptual plan

1:47:59to understand the best place that we

1:48:01felt we could place the park facilities

1:48:03our access facilities.

1:48:04Excuse me where to locate parking

1:48:07and where to locate housing on a way that provides an asset

1:48:12community that also fits in and the appropriate manner properly

1:48:16sizing the buildings, so on.

1:48:17And so forth.

1:48:18And we look forward to continuing conversations

1:48:20as the community starts to roll through the rest of this year.

1:48:25For holiday and related both as housing developers

1:48:29choose our true core mission delivering housing and a method

1:48:32that respects the existing neighborhood is

1:48:34of utmost importance.

1:48:36And we look forward to getting into the conversations

1:48:39and telling you more about how we envision delivering

1:48:42this housing and deliver.

1:48:44Sorry, excuse me.

1:48:45I'll turn it over to Andrew to touch a little bit more

1:48:47on that.

1:48:48Thank you, Jamie.

1:48:50The ability to deliver housing units in such locations

1:48:54are transient and amenity.

1:48:55Rich cities also Plaza is really exciting.

1:48:59We were really looking forward to creating

1:49:01a community that will enrich future tenant tenants lives.

1:49:05Our vision for the site delivers housing at all income levels

1:49:09and we'll be a dynamic community that will provide housing

1:49:11for a diverse population and household size residents

1:49:15will have access to ample indoor and outdoor amenities

The developer described designing the outdoor space before the buildings.

The sequence: “one of the initial items we looked at before we even started… buildings on our site plan was the use of outdoor space as a community amenity.”

Its purpose: “a way to integrate this development ultimately into the community.”

Their assessment: “the delivery of open space or placemaking was a critical part of our visioning for this conceptual plan.”

They noted the existing connections to the Ohlone Greenway, which runs directly alongside the site.

Community engagement had already occurred, working with their design professionals.

Note

The developer says outdoor space as a community amenity was considered before buildings were placed on the site plan, as a way to integrate the development into the community.

19 “The missing middle” captions 1997–2010

1:49:18as well as the public improvements that

1:49:21will happen around the station.

1:49:24Are preliminary concept studies developed

1:49:27as part of related selection process

1:49:29and guided really by the San Pablo

1:49:31apneas Pacific Plan was able to achieve seven and fifty

1:49:35to eight fifty housing units, which would be delivered

1:49:38across a number of phases Fifty percent of that total number

1:49:43of units would be income restricted serving

1:49:47and income range all the way from extremely low income

1:49:49or thirty percent in median income

1:49:52up to middle income housing The missing middle really

1:49:56allows us to serve the full income

1:49:58spectrum across the project.

The developer's own description confirmed the range: “seven [hundred] and fifty to eight fifty housing units, which would be delivered across a number of phases.”

And the income span: “fifty percent of that total number of units would be income restricted, serving an income range all the way from extremely low income — or thirty percent [of] median income — up to middle income housing.”

Their phrase for that span: “the missing middle really allows us to serve the full income spectrum across the project.”

20 Walking through the site plan captions 2011–2224

1:50:05The next step in the development process

1:50:07will be progress in refining this vision,

1:50:10we're speaking to this will involve coordination

1:50:13with Bart the city and facilitating input

1:50:16from stakeholders, including community members here

1:50:20The ideas and the suggestions and sensitivities

1:50:22and even concerns for community from the general community

1:50:26is essential to deliver a successful and fully integrated

1:50:29project We will look to build our part of the city's already

1:50:33community engagement efforts over the past years,

1:50:35and our team will be actively involved

1:50:37in the study community process.

1:50:39The Raichel spoke to.

1:50:40And in coordination will facilitate input

1:50:42from the community on the development concept

1:50:45outside of station access as both melanie

1:50:49and Shannon mentioned, the first step in this process

1:50:53will be a community wide beating is scheduled for May 25th.

1:50:57Much like tonight's The Focus of the meeting

1:50:59is going to be an introductory event

1:51:02and to introduce a development team review to the city's

1:51:05work over the past few years, really where we are today

1:51:09and discuss the next steps of the development process

1:51:16throughout the really the remaining portion of this year.

1:51:19And through twenty, twenty two our focus

1:51:23will be on the station access and then

1:51:26refind of the development concept and plan as mentioned,

1:51:30to the key components of progressing

1:51:32the development through the development timeline.

1:51:35Determining the replacement parking out

1:51:37and the station access study will be really making

1:51:43this determination following that milestone development team

1:51:47will progress to further design development which will lead

1:51:51into the entitlement process Echoing what Anne and Jamie

1:51:59both hit on We're really looking forward to the city working

1:52:02with the city parks and community to ensure the station

1:52:05achieves its immense potential All of us

1:52:09see Thank you again for having this evening

1:52:11and our team is available for any questions

1:52:15Council members any comments or questions

1:52:24Council member Mohtarma thank.

1:52:27Amaia, I'm really excited that we're

1:52:30starting to see some material on the what's

1:52:34proposed I think it would be great to have

1:52:39the development team.

1:52:40Can I just walk through the site plan and see

1:52:43the library's and mentioned ?

1:52:45I think you have a spot for it on the plan.

1:52:48But I think plans are sometime hard to read.

1:52:50If this is not what you do. every single day.

1:52:53So if you could just walk us through what your proposed

1:52:56in the schematic sense that everybody has a good starting

1:53:00point this evening.

1:53:01That would be really helpful.

1:53:03I also would just like to hear from the development team,

1:53:09their committing to work with BART in the city

1:53:12in developing this off street parking program, which will be,

1:53:16I think, really important to the overall success

1:53:20of this development I keep hearing.

1:53:22Oh, well, the city will come up with a street parking plan.

1:53:26And I don't want it to sound like we are being

1:53:29that the cost of parking on site is being external to the city.

1:53:34As you know, we have a pretty significant budget issue here.

1:53:38So we really aren't able to absorb

1:53:41as much as we would love to see something

1:53:43really great happened here.

1:53:44So given that I just give everyone the heads up about

1:53:48that, but also just to make sure that there's real coordination

1:53:51real thoughtfulness and help us to come up with this really

1:53:57great plan because we're really not

1:53:58in position to come up with a big program

1:54:02because we don't have funding for that.

1:54:06So any assistance with that would be really critical.

1:54:08To here as well as to have and just any kind of analysis

1:54:17about the library that you can share with us,

1:54:20your initial thoughts be really helpful to here as well.

1:54:23So thank you So this is in again, I think maybe

1:54:34if we could share our screen.

1:54:36Do you want us to walk through We can walk through again.

1:54:39This is just the initial concept plan.

1:54:41We responded to the RFQ with our ideas.

1:54:45This is by no means a proposal or final in any way

1:54:50But we could just walk through some of the ideas.

1:54:53What each of these blocks represent Jameer, Andrew.

1:54:56If you want to walk through or if you want me to keep going.

1:55:00Yeah, sure.

1:55:00I can jump in.

1:55:03This is Jamie Hitcher with Holiday.

1:55:06So maybe we'll just move in alphabetical order here.

1:55:09Jamie, can you speak up ?

1:55:11Yes sorry.

1:55:12Can you hear me a bit better.

1:55:13I'll move the microphone here.

1:55:16So starting with percelay, which as we talked about earlier,

1:55:20is a little bit of an outlier within the existing zoning

1:55:25and that it's not part of the san Pablo specific plan.

1:55:29As Melanie alluded to, we're spending all this time

1:55:33understanding aB twenty nine, twenty

1:55:35three and what that means for BART and for the city

1:55:38and for the development team because it's

1:55:42such new legislation that we're trading in new waters here

1:55:45and we're excited about what that can

1:55:47mean for the amount of housing.

1:55:48We can deliver.

1:55:50But again, we want to make sure that we're doing.

1:55:53So in a way that respects the existing community So

1:55:57essentially moving counterclockwise,

1:55:59you'll see parcel be kind adjacent to Central Avenue is

1:56:04where in our initial proposal we located the public parking

1:56:09and public parking is just a public garage

1:56:11That would be a mixed use garage house parking for residential.

1:56:17It would house parking for the replacement of the portion

1:56:20of the existing park parking and potentially

1:56:22the library as well.

1:56:24In our initial plan, we located that in what we would call wrap

1:56:29development So we would have residential units wrapping

1:56:33around the garage We also looked at some scenario

1:56:36where perhaps the garage would be a standalone structure.

1:56:39But in both cases, we're really focused on how do we

1:56:43locate the garage in a way that that's not negatively impact

1:56:46to the human expert as of using this development

1:56:50And when it comes forward we have more residential sited

1:56:55on a parcels see one in two.

1:56:58And again, as was noted earlier, this is where the library

1:57:01was initially located.

1:57:02Our conceptual plan and part of the driver

1:57:05there was really understanding the importance

1:57:08of Fairmont Avenue.

1:57:10And so if if the library were to not go forward or the library

1:57:14or to recite somewhere else on the site,

1:57:16we would see this as an opportunity for delivery

1:57:19of retail at some level.

1:57:22And then circling back down to parcel

1:57:24D, another residential building there.

1:57:29I guess you look a bit more closely

1:57:32at this city with the community might pick up on.

1:57:34Is that one of the moves that we made in this conceptual plan ?

1:57:39was having Oak Street come all the way through the site

1:57:42and citing all the vehicular uS access

1:57:45on one side of the tracks.

1:57:46Whereas now it's on both sides And really our goal there

1:57:52was to really enhance the experience of the Greenway

1:57:56and the access to the station So we talked about the potential

1:57:59of having a bike station in this area really making this an area

1:58:03where people can pause during transit up and down the Aloni

1:58:07freeway or to and from the park Station So again,

1:58:11acknowledging that this is all kind of our initial first take,

1:58:14that that's where we decided some of the uses in the cycling

1:58:22Thank you Question Were you done with Lisa's questions

1:58:35I sets the site for a question.

1:58:38We could turn to the parking site, parking meter.

1:58:41Uh, or I could i could pose for the next question,

1:58:45which do you prefer to ask a question

1:58:49But it was about that slide.

1:58:50And we're going to come Mr. Defer to you

1:58:59on how you want to proceed.

1:59:02Yes.

1:59:02Uh council member, Avildsen OK, I was wondering where

1:59:06the the bus stops would be.

1:59:09I don't quite see a place for them.

1:59:15So in this plan, the bus access would be located

1:59:18along oak Street as well.

1:59:20As to some of those joggers and how we have laid out

1:59:25would be where the bus parking would be located Again,

1:59:29at this stage, we haven't had conversations with AC transit

1:59:32and the other transit provider This

1:59:36was our effort as we responded to the request for qualifiable

1:59:40understand.

1:59:41This would kickoff point for those conversations

1:59:44Thank you council.

1:59:50No material.

1:59:51What was your second inquiry ?

1:59:54Just I would like to just have the partnership

1:59:58affirmed to support the parking lot of St.

2:00:02For the on street parking so that we are not stuck.

2:00:07Coming up with a solution for any extra parking by ourselves.

2:00:13Mayor, I believe that Rachel Hektor from BART

2:00:17is ready to jump and talk about this item Thank you.

2:00:21Uh, council member Motorama Yeah, hi.

2:00:25Hopefully you can hear me this time.

2:00:29Everyone hear me oK ? now I'm scared

2:00:33I'm going to fail me Yeah.

2:00:35So as part of the corridor wide plan.

2:00:38And one of the reasons we wanted to get grants for this work

2:00:42is because the station specific access plan generally wouldn't

2:00:46have enough funding to do an in-depth analysis

2:00:51on doing something on street parking management concept.

2:00:55So we've hired an expert in the field

2:00:59as part of our team premiss and he

2:01:03is he is going to be developing concept together with the city

2:01:06and looking at really how how this parking management

2:01:11plan could support itself and bring revenue to the city

2:01:15The initial upfront upfront setup

2:01:18costs is something we would have to we'd need to explore.

2:01:21Grant funding and work with our partners

2:01:25together with the city and partner agencies

2:01:28to try to come up with the funding for that OK,

2:01:34so there is a consultant There's a cost.

2:01:37But we don't currently have funding for it.

2:01:39That is correct.

2:01:42The consultant is paid for through the Caltrans grant,

2:01:45but the set costs for a program is something

2:01:48that we will have to figure out what the setup costs are

2:01:50and then figure out the funding how the funding

2:01:54plan would work for that.

2:01:55And then, of course determine that this parking management

2:01:58plan would be self supporting and hopefully revenue

2:02:01generating to provide community benefits and can you just give

2:02:06us a ballpark sense of what the cost

2:02:08to set up a program would be ?

2:02:10Just really ballpark You know, it's still it.

2:02:16I think it can range, maybe somewhere between five hundred

2:02:20thousand to a million But I, I this is very initial

2:02:26So I think that we need to explore it more deeply

The issue: one parcel “is a little bit of an outlier within the existing zoning, in that it's not part of the San Pablo specific plan.”

The team's position on the law generally: “we're spending all this time understanding AB 2923 and what that means for BART and for the city and for the development team, because it's such new legislation that we're trading in new” territory.

The developers called the site plan an initial concept, “by no means a proposal or final in any way.”

Next steps: a communitywide meeting on 25 May, then through 2022 the station access study and the replacement parking decision, then design and entitlements.

Motoyama asked for a walk-through of the site plan and the library, and for the developers' commitment to work with BART and the city on an off-street parking program — the city, with its budget problems, could not absorb that cost. The developer walked the parcels: a public garage by Central Avenue for residential and replacement parking, and possibly the library, wrapped in housing; residential blocks where the library was first sited, with retail on Fairmont if the library went elsewhere; and Oak Street extended through the site with vehicle access on one side of the tracks and a possible bike station on the Greenway.

Abelson asked where bus stops would go; the developer said along Oak Street, though AC Transit had not yet been consulted. BART's Rachel Factor said an on-street parking management consultant was paid for by the Caltrans grant, but the cost of setting up a program — perhaps $500,000 to $1 million — had no funding yet.

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2:02:28and then come up with a better estimate I believe

2:02:33that that's really helpful.

2:02:34The magnitude of the cost is really helpful.

2:02:36Thank you Council member Rubberneck Thank you.

2:02:47I have a few questions before I and the questions.

2:02:50Thank you.

2:02:51You so much for the presentation.

2:02:53I really appreciate you reiterating the importance

2:02:56of our community space.

2:02:59And we really want this project to benefit our current l.A.

2:03:04residents as our future residents

2:03:07and really creating this common space

2:03:09I'm a big fan of Jane Epps.

2:03:12So any of this kind of when we think is that our unity is.

2:03:17And I know that there's a lot of community members

2:03:19who are excited, engaged.

2:03:20I'm looking forward to public comment on this.

2:03:23So now to my questions When it comes to real middle school

2:03:30and affordable housing, I know that for a Mayfair project

2:03:34and i think council member Modie Yamaka almost answer

2:03:37to this question I know that the funding sources

2:03:40for affordable housing, tend to be more complex and faster

2:03:44for market rate to be built which is why at the Mayfair

2:03:48project, there is a separate bill, which is the Affordable

2:03:52Housing Building, a structure that's going up separately

2:03:55from the market rate, which is what

2:03:56we're seeing going up now that be the same on this project.

2:04:00Our housing, is the housing going to be set Brit,

2:04:04based on And the responses I'll jump in as a starting point.

2:04:20Then Andrew and jamie jump in as well.

2:04:24You know it is past possible to integrate

2:04:30but we are contemplating separate developments

2:04:34for the affordable and the market

2:04:37So not a fully integrated integrated across the site.

2:04:41That will allow for us to secure the financing that we need

2:04:45for the Affordable and also for some

2:04:49of the public improvements, just like you

2:04:51approved I think a basic application today

2:04:54for the rich property mavor.

2:04:57We would be seeking todd to do not just the housing,

2:05:03but also a lot of these public improvements in the structure

2:05:07of a separate, standalone, affordable

2:05:10really supports that I don't know if Jamie and Andrew,

2:05:14if you want to add on to that or council that That's right.

2:05:20Just given the complexities not just

2:05:23of affordable housing finance market

2:05:25housing finance, as well.

2:05:27And then the missing middle, which has always inclusive

2:05:30having them in separate structures with making sure

2:05:33particularly in the public improvements

2:05:35that we're making, that that all integrates well together, which

2:05:38is what we focused on a bit at at the Mayfair Project

2:05:41with the public use You'll start to see.

2:05:43Come on line for the next few months.

2:05:45But that is the concept here as well.

2:05:50Thank you for the explanation My next question is about some

2:05:54of the public improvement projects such as a playground.

2:05:57And I know that for rendering these it's really easy to throw

2:06:01in playground to make it more accommodating But the question

2:06:04would be, is that A, would that be maintained by the property

2:06:10management If this is a use playground,

2:06:13that's become a city of playground, how does that

2:06:16work ? that's a real question.

2:06:21I think might want to chime as well,

2:06:24but I think when what we want to make sure in these proposals

2:06:29that we were putting forward public improvements that we

2:06:33feel are feasible again, not just from a construction

2:06:36standpoint, but from a long term management standpoint as well.

2:06:41So if it's an improvement that's tied to a particular project,

2:06:44making sure that that particular building can support

2:06:47financially the maintenance or if it's something that's maybe

2:06:51more in the middle how do we work on shared management

2:06:55of that space Among these developments that are going

2:06:57to come forward onto the land ?

2:06:59So it's an open question, but conceptually, we put forward

2:07:02public amenities that we feel the project

2:07:06projects plural can support.

2:07:10Well, I can certainly tell you that a playground

2:07:12would be very posh here.

2:07:15Those three that we do have a lot of younger residents

2:07:18under the age of, let's say, ten who

2:07:20would use that playground Your parents would be happy for it.

2:07:24Sure.

2:07:25That where we thinking through these things

2:07:27as we're closer to it and then my final question

2:07:32is about Ibro.

2:07:33And I know that Councillor Maryanna asked that question,

2:07:36but I don't think it was answered miss, which

2:07:39is we really do want a library and we very much do,

2:07:44but we do not have the funds for it.

2:07:47And I know that a lot of that this is just more hypothetical.

2:07:51I don't even know if it's questions that could be

2:07:52answered and then have got the city attorney

2:07:54is on the call for this.

2:07:56Things like exploring how it is that we

2:07:58could potentially release versus purchase a library.

2:08:03I would be more interested in that Also,

2:08:07as far as having the plans in place, for a library,

2:08:11because at this point, it's very speculative I don't even

2:08:15believe that we would could afford

2:08:18to fund looking into the plans for a library, let

2:08:22alone the library.

2:08:23Itself.

2:08:24It would be a great figure is to move

2:08:28forward because I believe that having this location

2:08:32will be fantastic.

2:08:34Regionally.

2:08:35Appreciate it. would be heavily utilized.

2:08:37Appreciate it.

2:08:37Would be really great that for the property itself to have a

2:08:44on site, it would make especially the market rate

2:08:47housing more attractive for folks knowing

2:08:49that there's a library there on I really hope

2:08:51that the starts a dialogue.

2:08:53But is that we can make it work, because I think mutually

2:08:57beneficial to get a library here at the Space kind of more

2:09:02comedy, but a little bit questioning if there's anything

2:09:04you want to I would say this, that the development

2:09:12and design team thought a lot about where

2:09:16the library could be located.

2:09:18We made a suggestion as part of our concept

2:09:22that's physically where it's located and thought about,

2:09:25oh maybe there's a cafe or maybe there's

2:09:27some outdoor space to spill out into things like that.

2:09:30I think that the physical location

2:09:33is probably the easiest of all of the things

2:09:35to consider with the library.

2:09:37So I agree with you completely.

2:09:39It's a dialogue now.

2:09:40We need to engage in that dialogue.

2:09:42Figure out what the possibilities are,

2:09:45how realistic those are, and see how far we can

2:09:48go with our planning process.

2:09:49With the library in knowing that it might get pulled out.

2:09:52We want to pursue both avenues as long as we possibly can.

2:09:57And really explore that feasibility along with the city

2:10:01It can add just a piece on this council member.

2:10:05And so because Bart owns the land and jump in.

2:10:08If I mystate the option this site would

2:10:12be a lease type of situation.

2:10:14And so that is something we are talking to the developer,

2:10:17I think I don't remember if it was mentioned,

2:10:19but the building that it's proposed to be located in

2:10:22is a part of the affordable housing aspects.

2:10:26So we're beginning to talk about that.

2:10:28But the lease piece is is likely and I've

2:10:31talked to the city attorney about this in the past.

2:10:32Before we when we were just exploring how could

2:10:35something feasibly happen So that piece is somewhat known,

2:10:39but not fully explored yet.

2:10:41What that would look like, how it would be financed,

2:10:43like you said, you know, how it would be capitalized,

2:10:45how it would be built up.

2:10:46But you brought up another important point,

2:10:48and it's one that we're talking about out

2:10:49to how could it even be planned to how

2:10:52could we how can we plan it ?

2:10:53What kind of engagement and what kind of exploration ?

2:10:56So are deeply in conversation, along with all

2:10:59these other topics I'd say we're actually just initiating maybe

2:11:02not so deeply in this one yet.

2:11:03We're initiating a conversation on this one.

2:11:06And I'll be communicating with the city manager

2:11:08and we'll figure out like the appropriate juncture

2:11:11that we start to be able to bring you some ways

2:11:15that this can move forward.

2:11:16But I'd say we're really an initial conversations.

2:11:18I think when I talk to the affordable housing team,

2:11:21they felt excited about it.

2:11:23There's a lot of potential I think,

2:11:24for the development, the same way that you just described it.

2:11:27It's it's a it complements the housing of all ages and types

2:11:32as well as really built a complete

2:11:34community in the neighbourhood.

2:11:35And serves the greater ulcerated community

2:11:39So they're excited about it.

2:11:40And they included it in the site plan.

2:11:42Now we're looking at how far can they carry it,

2:11:44what kind of supplemental planning with the city have

2:11:47to think about And we'll be back to you with kind

2:11:49of these decisions and then kind of a decision to be matrix,

2:11:52right ?

2:11:52How far so we are just initiating that conversation

2:11:55But the lease would likely be that

2:11:58would be probably a piece of the structure.

2:12:01I mean, yes, right.

2:12:04I do want to apologize.

2:12:05Apparently, my audio has now.

2:12:07And I got a message from city clerk about it.

2:12:09So I apologize for that.

2:12:11Also we are indeed pursue a lease model.

2:12:15How is it.

2:12:16And we'll have to discuss going for grants

2:12:20to help us in the development of our not

2:12:23owning the property I don't know if it would be a challenge

2:12:27once we have plans, if we are trying to seek grant funds

2:12:31and for construction you do not own.

2:12:35So it'll be interesting how.

2:12:37But really, I want us to be open up there.

2:12:41That's well, again, sorry Opened in agile in this

2:12:46the goal of having like a site that that's it for me.

2:12:51I can I can certainly I can safely say as the staff member

2:12:55who has been working on trying to build a library in this town

2:12:58since about two thousand you can rest assured that I am going

2:13:02to be exploring every possibility

2:13:04there is And can that include infrastructure, finance,

2:13:10district We will look into every single person

2:13:15that has gotten way easier It means a combination

2:13:18of entities coming together to accrue tax money

2:13:22and it's become easier.

2:13:23Yes, Janet council member, Avildsen.

2:13:26Yes, there's another related problem especially

2:13:30if you go by back to the way it used to be,

2:13:34which is it isn't the library.

2:13:37It's run by the county not us.

2:13:41And I'm sure.

2:13:42Yes, for the existing libraries throughout the county.

2:13:46Who owns them ? now, sir ?

2:13:50Jurisdiction All of the local jurisdictions

2:13:53phone all the buildings.

2:13:54That is correct.

2:13:55Oh, OK.

2:13:56So that at one level simplifies it.

2:14:00So we don't theoretically operate We

2:14:05yes, we own and maintain the building,

2:14:07and it is indeed operated by Contra Costa County

2:14:09Library council member COINTEL.

2:14:13Thank you, Mayor And I know Karen

2:14:15and i spoke about the Future of Libraries

2:14:19and know that there are bills out there in Sacramento

2:14:23and also on the federal level and part of a package

2:14:28of building better back includes libraries

2:14:32so that is part of the plan on the federal level.

2:14:36So I would love to know more about that.

2:14:39Once that gets out of that I know our county librarian

2:14:43knows about that.

2:14:45Our library commissioners have emailed us about

2:14:49and I've talked to Karen about looking at all that.

2:14:52And then when it comes to grants and what's available,

2:14:57so definitely there will be things out available this year.

2:15:02OK, i have just a couple of comments.

2:15:06I'm very glad to see that a project labor agreement

2:15:11is in place for this project.

2:15:12Art has that for every property I understand.

2:15:15So that will be happening.

2:15:16And also read out.

2:15:17And I'm wondering if the thirty five percent affordable housing

2:15:22is in place, is that a number that will stay or is

2:15:24that a flexible number as well with the development

2:15:33that change could change.

2:15:36Our current proposal is fifty percent

2:15:38and can restrict it about forty percent

2:15:40of that is housing That's serving income

2:15:43levels below eighty percent.

2:15:45Tamaya between 30 percent and 80 percent AM.

2:15:47And we intend to keep those ratios.

2:15:51So it may not be Thirty five percent is what you're saying.

2:15:54We intend to keep the ratio that we are at currently,

2:15:56which is above thirty five percent above thirty five OK,

2:16:00and just quickly, I'm assuming with all the lessons we're

2:16:04learning from covid that where we're at the very beginning

2:16:07of this process.

2:16:08But you're going to be folding in any lessons that

2:16:10we may have learned from hatton's travel patterns,

2:16:13work patterns ?

2:16:14I know there are some issues of office space.

2:16:17Maybe we don't need that now, but that's something we can

2:16:20continue to talk you all about.

2:16:22Is that right ?

2:16:24Actually, OK can we move to gabe Pinto

2:16:27has another guest Thank you, Mayor.

2:16:30And mayor.

2:16:31I believe you attended that meeting

2:16:33with me with cal Cities.

Councilmembers and residents made concrete requests about what the ground floor should hold.

Rudnick asked who would maintain a playground; the developer said that was an open question. Her case for one: “a playground would be very” welcome, since “we do have a lot of younger residents under the age of, let's say, ten who would use that playground. [Their] parents would be happy for it.”

On the library, Rudnick said the city wants one but does not have the funds, and asked about leasing rather than buying the space. The developer said the location was the easiest part and the dialogue was only beginning; staff said the building proposed for it is part of the affordable housing, a lease is the likely structure, and financing it was not yet explored — adding that grants may be harder to win for a building the city does not own. Staff would come back with a matrix of decisions.

The affordable and market-rate homes would be in separate buildings, as at Mayfair, to secure financing. The community development director said she had been trying to build a library in town since about 2000 and would explore every option, including an infrastructure financing district. Abelson confirmed that cities own library buildings while the county operates them. The Mayor welcomed the project labor agreement, and the developer said it intended to keep its affordability ratios above 35%.

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2:16:35When we did have a guest speaker from Southern California

2:16:39speaking about the future of downtown

2:16:42and the future of how to reimagine Dedman

2:16:45and and areas where cities had difficulties in making

2:16:53their cities better when it comes to redevelop

2:16:56and looking at what they're doing

2:17:00in other parts of California i'm hoping

2:17:04that we'll be able to learn from all that And with covid

2:17:09and learning from covid about the need of some offices

2:17:16because retail could be retail ever again.

2:17:19Supposedly from what our advisors told us in Cal cities.

2:17:24So definitely looking into folks that

2:17:28want to have their offices offices closer to home

2:17:32we lack that.

2:17:33And people have been asking for offices

2:17:36and I definitely support So looking into that very much.

2:17:40Appreciate it, because you look at what we have right now.

2:17:43And what we're building we have no one interested in our retail

2:17:47yet.

2:17:48So and so I want to make sure that in the future that where

2:17:56up on the changes of what's going on across the state

2:18:00and where we're seeing that in the beginning right now.

2:18:04And you look at what happened at St. Shambhala in San

2:18:08Francisco and the operator entities

2:18:10that that brought because of that.

2:18:12And I know we will see that.

2:18:13And we're seeing it now here the East Bay.

2:18:16And I look forward to seeing the project come into fruition.

2:18:21Really excited about that.

2:18:22Thank you.

2:18:23And I'd like to move on to public comment.

2:18:25Now.

2:18:26We can at this time any non members of the public who wish

2:18:31to provide public comments on this item

2:18:34should use to raise the hand feature to request to speak.

2:18:37And we will ask the city clerk to proceed with this process.

2:18:40Now.

2:18:41Thank you Thank you, Mayor.

2:18:43For those on the call, there are instructions

2:18:46again, up on the screen for how to use race hand feature.

2:18:49If you're calling in by phone, you

2:18:51can dial star nine to raise your hand

2:18:54and may at this time I have about

2:18:57ten hands question to speak.

2:18:59Can you please confirm a 3 minute time limit

2:19:04Yeah, I'm wants to put it to two to half,

2:19:07but let's table with three here.

2:19:09OK, ok.

2:19:10My first speaker is Dave Campbell.

2:19:13Dave Davies should be able to unmuted.

2:19:15Begin your time now.

2:19:18In council members and team Dave Campbell,

2:19:22advocacy director with Bickie bay.

2:19:25I want to start by saying Bakkies

2:19:26Bay is fully supportive of the work you're doing here.

2:19:29This, I think, is going to be a wonderful development project.

2:19:33For the city.

2:19:35Of El Cerrito.

2:19:37But that said, have concerns about a couple issues that

2:19:41have come up repeatedly over the years and the first one

2:19:45has to do with parking.

2:19:47And I want to applaud Bart for very clearly staying in there

2:19:51priorities that walking and biking are the highest

2:19:55excellence priorities I'd simply ask Bart to clarify does that

2:20:00also mean, those the highest priorities

2:20:01for your new tenants when they need to access

2:20:04local EL destinations ?

2:20:06well, is it more than just an access number

2:20:09or is it also a building number for parts new tenants

2:20:14But but in connection with this, we've

2:20:17been working with many cities on Pablo Avenue

2:20:20and making it a much more mobile street and corridor

2:20:23for people who can't drive or choose

2:20:26not to drive or want to drive.

2:20:28And that includes transit.

2:20:29That includes walking.

2:20:30In addition to bike lanes.

2:20:32And we've heard from staff and others

Quinto raised the same question from the policy side, citing what he had heard about “the need [for] offices, because retail could” not “be retail ever again.”

His interest was in “how to reimagine downtown” and learning from “what they're doing in other parts of California.”

Quinto added that “we have no one interested in our retail yet.” Dave Campbell of Bike East Bay supported the project but asked BART and the Council to say that removing station parking does not mean keeping all on-street parking on San Pablo Avenue, that the city's bike plan lacks east-west connections, and that San Pablo should not serve as an auxiliary road to the freeway.

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2:20:35that we can't remove on street parking on San Pablo Avenue

2:20:38because we're removing all this parking

2:20:41around our BART stations.

2:20:42And I think that's where Bahts board can step

2:20:46and say, no, that's not right.

2:20:47That's not what we mean when we remove from our BART stations.

2:20:51To build homes for people And I think we

2:20:53need to hear that from Sarita's city council as well.

2:20:57And if you look those bike access numbers your stations,

2:21:01they've stayed steady over the last ten years.

2:21:04And from two thousand eight to 12 15,

2:21:07we've had the Aloni Greenway.

2:21:08Both of those years in that period, what you've lacked

2:21:12is good.

2:21:12EastWest connections and your bike plan

2:21:15that we worked on many years ago lacks those good EastWest

2:21:19connections.

2:21:19And we we heard from many community members

2:21:23who said they wanted better East-West connections and staff

2:21:26wasn't ready to go there because of street parking

2:21:30And I know it's a difficult issue for staff to work out.

2:21:33And that's why i think they need to hear from the council How

2:21:36important is this parking moving forward relative to improving

2:21:39walking, biking and transit And the other issue is the freeway

2:21:43traffic We've heard as we try to improve San Pablo

2:21:47Avenue for walking biking and transit that San Pablo

2:21:51Avenue is an auxiliary road to the freeway

2:21:54And I think that's where BART board and this council

2:21:58need to step in and say, no, that's not right either.

2:22:01It's fine to redirect traffic onto the freeway right

2:22:04past the crash.

2:22:05That all the technology out there is intended to do.

2:22:07But this street is first and foremost, our main street and

2:22:11we need to make it happen for.

2:22:13So my ass are strong statements The BART board

2:22:15and from this council on those two issues, parking

2:22:18and the freeway, things.

2:22:21Thank you Thank you.

2:22:22Our next speaker is Carrie Shulman.

2:22:24There used to be able to unmuted begin your time out.

2:22:29Hi, everyone.

2:22:30I'm an illustrator.

2:22:31Resent resident.

2:22:33I've lived here for over a decade.

2:22:35I'm so excited about what you guys are planning here.

2:22:38Thank you, everyone.

2:22:39On this call for your work on this.

2:22:42I do a lot of biking and I'm a little concerned

2:22:45with the current plans bike path.

2:22:47I'm currently with the El Cerrito

2:22:49BART station the Plaza Station.

2:22:51It's a little scary biking through there

2:22:53because people kind of haphazardly wander around

2:22:57So it would be really greatly appreciated if you could be

2:23:00mindful of how people are using the bike path

2:23:04and if there's cross traffic, you route them

2:23:07to specific areas of the bike path.

2:23:09so that people who are using bike path as they're biking

2:23:13highway can still get through their efficiently

2:23:15and without being scared of people

2:23:18wandering around randomly.

2:23:21I'm also concerned about the location of the playground

2:23:24right next to the bike path We definitely don't want toddlers

2:23:28randomly wandering around on the bike

2:23:31and also, I think it would be so much

2:23:33more effective to put the playground closer to the

2:23:37library and closer to a cafes.

2:23:39I'm also I have a six year old and an eight year

2:23:43and it would be dreamy to be able to sit in a cafe

2:23:46and enjoy my food at my own leisure

2:23:50while being able to watch my kids play on the playground.

2:23:54And also, if a library could be right next to the playground

2:23:57would be really great.

2:23:58So much better than having the playground having

2:24:01a street there where kids run across the street

2:24:04and it could also be pretty scary.

2:24:06So having the playground more centrally

2:24:08located near the library and near restaurants

2:24:12would be really great.

2:24:14And the one other thing I noticed

2:24:16I saw for fitness centers on the plan which seemed kind

2:24:21of excessive I would love to see more dining places, cafe

2:24:27and things like that.

2:24:28I think that's the future of retail

2:24:32And maybe we don't need for fitness centers So

2:24:35thank you very much for listening to my comments

2:24:37and all your work Thank you.

2:24:42Thank you.

2:24:43You.

2:24:43Our next speaker is Jodi Maybe you should be able to.

2:24:46I'm you can begin your time now.

2:24:50Thank you.

2:24:51My name is Jambon.

2:24:53I'm sorry.

2:24:53I just use the initials despite what you've heard tonight.

A resident who bikes through the station asked that cross traffic on the bike path be routed, worried about the playground's place beside it, and suggested putting it “more centrally located near the library and near restaurants” — better than “having a street there where kids run across the street.”

Then a sharper observation about the retail mix: “I saw four fitness centers on the plan, which seemed kind of excessive.”

What the speaker wanted instead: “more dining places, cafe[s] and things like that. I think that's the future of retail.”

Significant

A resident counted four fitness centers in the ground floor plan and asked for restaurants instead — “I think that's the future of retail.” The pandemic's effect on retail is the live question, with a councilmember reporting advice that retail may not return to what it was.

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2:24:57Let's be clear, Bart stated objective is to, quote,

2:25:01replace little or no Bart Patrón Parkington

2:25:04maximize the benefits associated future

2:25:06taught at the station unquote.

2:25:09The push is based on flawed survey methodology incorrectly

2:25:12categorized the station as semi urban,

2:25:15thereby needing little or no parking and bahts desire

2:25:19to secure lucrative lease revenue

2:25:21and make the project more appealing.

2:25:22To developers.

2:25:24Removing most of the station parking

2:25:25will create severe hardships for those

2:25:27who must use a car for work, commuting

2:25:29family or health reasons.

2:25:31Not everyone can bike or take a scooter to and from Bart

2:25:35This will create massive parking issues for residents

2:25:38of the surrounding streets.

2:25:40BART survey was flawed in that it counted

2:25:42restricted hourly parking is available to BART riders

2:25:45If a rider worked an eight hour day then

2:25:47he or she could not use that street for parking.

2:25:49I want to give this real life scenario A single parent who

2:25:53is commuting from the plaza to San Francisco each day

2:25:56after work just rides Bart back to the plaza, jumps in her car

2:26:00and picks up her two children from preschool

2:26:02before the six p.m. deadline.

2:26:05She relies on the reserve parking spot

2:26:07to ensure her children can be picked up

2:26:10before the preschool closes If there is no station parking

2:26:15or so.

2:26:16So restricted she would have to hunt around

2:26:18for blocks or blocks in the morning

2:26:20with no guarantee of parking.

2:26:22If she parked far away, the long walk to the station

2:26:24could make her late for work.

2:26:26And on the return from work she would

2:26:28have to race back to her car parked

2:26:30on a random street that day.

2:26:31To pick up her children.

2:26:33A bicycle, bus or ride your option

2:26:35is simply not feasible when children

2:26:37need to be in car seats.

2:26:39Removing parking may force the parent to make tough choices

2:26:41about child care. or even where she could work You would have

2:26:44removed a critical component daily parking

2:26:47access to her ability to work and care for her children.

2:26:51Please demand that Bart conduct a more thorough objective

2:26:55survey that uses nonbiased methodology

2:26:59and does not make so many assumptions The survey was not

2:27:02an accurate representative sample, as Bart itself admits

2:27:06the survey does not provide a comprehensive view of travel

2:27:09behavior and relies on stated preference

2:27:11and stated behaviors instead of observed behavior,

2:27:14quote unquote.

2:27:16Too many initial decisions and directions

2:27:18are being based on this plus flawed survey methodology

2:27:21and findings It lacks real world examples

2:27:24And if you think there's going to be a golden shovel

2:27:26groundbreaking on this project in the next few years

2:27:29think again.

2:27:30If bart, the developers in the city,

2:27:33don't listen to the patrons and citizens of wall Street

2:27:36or in the surrounding area.

2:27:38I'm afraid that this project will be mired in litigation

2:27:40for years to come.

2:27:42So please demand Bart be more accountable

2:27:45and do more research on parking meters Thank you very much.

2:27:50Killed Our next speaker is Laura more

2:27:54Laura you should be able to I'm meeting begin your time now.

2:28:02Accept holly, Laura are you there ?

2:28:06Yeah, can you not hear me ?

2:28:08We can now Please proceed.

2:28:10Sorry about that.

2:28:11Hi, my name's Laura Mauer.

2:28:13I'm a former member of the Economic Development committee

2:28:17for the City of Toronto.

2:28:18And I am a graduate of my master's in urban planning

2:28:22Can you speak up, Laura ?

2:28:24Laura news.

2:28:24Speak up.

2:28:25Yeah, sorry about that.

2:28:27I actually did my master's thesis

2:28:29on parking at particularly the floors of our station.

2:28:33I did some parking occupancy study

2:28:36looking at the park on street parking

2:28:38surrounding the station.

2:28:40And I actually found that even during the busiest times, only

2:28:44about seventy seven percent of the parking

2:28:47in the immediate vicinity of the BART station

2:28:50was actually in use.

2:28:51Some of this is because of the residential parking program

2:28:55and some it was just poorly used parking spaces

2:29:00and so we looked at a lot of different methods

2:29:02that could be used to actually better utilize the parking that

2:29:07is already existing.

2:29:07There is a significant amount of parking around the station

2:29:11and is actually not utilized very well.

2:29:13By the residents during the day.

2:29:15Even with the parking permit program

2:29:17so I think there's a lot of room for improvement with things

2:29:21like parking passes to be able to use

2:29:25the on street parking better.

2:29:27There are also several parking lots nearby

2:29:30within a several blocks that could be better utilized,

2:29:34especially a couple of banks that are on San Pablo Avenue

2:29:38because people just aren't banking

2:29:40like they used to anymore.

2:29:41And they have significant amounts of unused parking

2:29:44that could be very well utilized by BART.

2:29:47So I implore Bart and the developers

2:29:50to look at ways to actually minimize

2:29:53the amount of replacement parking

2:29:54that is put in this development and also to think about

2:30:00if if replacement parking is necessary to maybe use it

2:30:04at the arts station as an end of the line station

2:30:08or a which functions as an end of the line essentially,

2:30:12there's always going to be a need

2:30:14for parking at that station.

2:30:15And so because it's that station is

2:30:18so close to the Plaza Station, it seems

2:30:21better to put in extra parking.

2:30:25It's already necessary I really enjoy this project.

2:30:28I'm really happy to see that this station

2:30:32is going to be developed.

2:30:33I used to live half a block from it.

2:30:35And it's it's actually truly exciting.

2:30:37To see what might possibly come.

2:30:39I really enjoyed the design of the building, especially

2:30:44the Diago cut through, because that

2:30:45is a very popular way to get through the parking lot now.

2:30:49And so that kind of builds on existing pathways So,

2:30:53yeah, thank you very much.

2:30:56You are next, because Dan Schulman

2:30:59and you should be able to end mute and begin your time.

2:31:03OK, thanks.

2:31:05Good evening.

2:31:06I'm sorry I'm Dan Schulman.

2:31:07I'm an L.A. resident about a half mile

2:31:09from the station I'm really excited that the presentations

2:31:12were great.

2:31:13Thank you.

2:31:14You, everybody, for making the presentation.

2:31:17I have just a few goals.

2:31:18I hope that this that the team can work towards.

2:31:22And I think you are working towards it.

2:31:23But I'll just emphasize it now.

2:31:25One is providing great new homes for households

2:31:29of different sizes different structures

2:31:31and different incomes.

2:31:32That looks like that's part of the plan.

2:31:34So thank you Huge priority is just

2:31:37building a vibrant, pedestrian friendly destination

2:31:42for the community I think covid has taught me

2:31:45that outdoor dining has been in demand

2:31:48and will continue to be in demand So let's

2:31:51put emphasis on that.

2:31:53One thing is on the open spaces There's some beautiful.

2:31:57It's a there's some beautiful views from that site.

2:32:00And I hope that the open spaces, those views

2:32:03will still be possible.

2:32:06And the placement of the pathways and open space

2:32:11allows you to still take advantage Those views

2:32:12and not having blocked out if possible, looks

2:32:16like a lot of these elements are taking

2:32:17shape in the presentation.

2:32:18So I look forward to the community process

Public comment on the project concentrated on parking, and the argument was about where it should go.

One speaker argued the opposite: BART's survey methodology was flawed, removing most station parking would create hardship for people who must drive — such as a single parent collecting children before preschool closes — and the project could be “mired in litigation for years.”

Laura Maurer, a former Economic Development Committee member who studied the station's parking for her master's thesis, found that even at the busiest times only about 77% of nearby parking was in use, and that lots such as those of banks on San Pablo Avenue “could be very well utilized by BART.”

So the ask: “I implore BART and the developers to look at ways to actually minimize the amount of replacement parking that is put in this development.”

And the alternative: put it at the del Norte station, which “functions as an end of the line” where “there's always going to be a need for parking.”

The reasoning: “because that station is so close to the Plaza station, it seems better to put in extra parking” where it is “already necessary.”

Dan Schulman asked for homes for different household sizes, outdoor dining, preserved views, easy access by every mode, and better east-west bike routes.

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2:32:20to further shape the designs And then

2:32:23the big one is just making this the most accessible

2:32:26transportation hub possible It should

2:32:29be safe It should be easy.

2:32:31It should be reliable.

2:32:32To get there.

2:32:33It should be as convenient as possible to walk, to bike,

2:32:37to use public transportation based on Seamless transit

2:32:40principles. which I believe the council

2:32:43endorsed at the last meeting.

2:32:45And yeah, I other innovative options including like road

2:32:50transit and anything that just makes it easier to get

2:32:52there reliably and safely.

2:32:55The Station Access Study, I'm glad to see it happening.

2:32:58It's critically important.

2:32:59So, so yes, that.

2:33:01Let's keep going with that.

2:33:03There's there's the there's so many ideas that

2:33:04need to be explored and put forward

2:33:06so that everyone who needs to can access the station

2:33:09the surrounding area.

2:33:10And I hope that the city will consider making updates

2:33:13to our surrounding street configuration including better

2:33:17bike infrastructure from east to west, using all

2:33:20available grants and other financing options

2:33:22outside of our general fund So thank you, everyone.

2:33:26For your leadership to get us to this point.

2:33:27And i look forward to the upcoming

2:33:29process to turn area into the town center

2:33:32that El Cerrito deserves.

2:33:33Thanks.

2:33:35Thank you.

2:33:36Next Speaker, Howdy Goudey should

2:33:39be able to unmuted and begin your time now Thank you.

2:33:43My name is hardcoded alfredo, so I really

2:33:48appreciate the large fraction of affordable units

2:33:51in this development.

2:33:52That's great.

2:33:55And well, you know, there's a lot of langridge around climate

2:34:02action associated with this project because of the transit

2:34:06oriented aspect, which is great I think

2:34:10we can't rest on that alone.

2:34:12We really need these new projects to be leaders

2:34:16in you know, the energy efficiency

2:34:21and greenhouse gas emission reduction

2:34:25across the entire spectrum.

2:34:28Of of the development, which means you even

2:34:34things like embodied carbon carbon and materials

2:34:38in the construction and certainly in the operation

2:34:42of the buildings.

2:34:43So I would strongly recommend, if it's not already

2:34:46part of the design, that is the electric only buildings

2:34:50with dust and that we take a really serious look at carbon

2:34:56emissions reduction beyond just the transportation aspects that

2:35:02have been discussed It's great that the you

2:35:09modular development has been touted,

2:35:13but I will point out that that development at mayfair

2:35:22has resulted in what I estimate is roughly

2:35:2710 acres of single use plastic, which was used to wrap

2:35:31each module for delivery being landfilled

2:35:34And that's enough to cover San Pablo curb

2:35:39to curb for more than a mile.

2:35:40So the promise of reducing construction waste

2:35:44is not really realized there.

2:35:45And even though we're doing great, innovative things,

2:35:48we have to keep our eye on really doing the best we can

2:35:53to limit waste and and make sure that, you know,

2:36:01we're not letting things slide here.

2:36:04And there.

2:36:07So I do appreciate the reefing of the greenway path

2:36:14along the side taking out the traffic along that side.

2:36:19I think that could really improve

2:36:20the pedestrian experience there.

2:36:24I'm a little disappointed by the choice

2:36:25to have a street dividing new development from the station.

2:36:30It seems that's going to really divide the station there would

2:36:34be great opportunities to make that more unity

2:36:37So it just in general, I think you this is a great opportunity

2:36:40to have really high quality public space

2:36:44and we want it to be a destination for people arriving

2:36:47on Bart, not just leaving on Bart and Yeah

2:36:51so I appreciate the process.

2:36:55So further those goals, but I think things are looking good.

2:36:59And I am happy with directions going.

2:37:03Thank you.

2:37:06Thank you.

2:37:06Our next speaker is Linda Kane.

2:37:08One day you should be able to unmuted

2:37:10begin your time now Thanks.

2:37:13Wow.

2:37:14We got a lot of really great smart people in our town.

2:37:16They're bringing up bringing up so many topics

2:37:19that I kind of wish I included.

2:37:21But luckily, I don't have to because they've

2:37:22already said them.

2:37:23I'm an 18 year commuter from the station,

2:37:27so I'm seeing it from the down point of view.

2:37:30Are you going to set my button Yeah, thank And i

2:37:36walked for a number of years.

2:37:38I walked.

2:37:38And I enjoyed the exercise was three fourths of a mile

2:37:41each way I actually got award from President Clinton

2:37:45for walking.

2:37:46So many miles during the year because I had just

2:37:49walked to Barton back every but there have been times

2:37:53when I needed to drive my car and it was, first of us as I've

2:37:56gotten older or when I hurt my leg

2:37:59or when I had reasons to work late

2:38:03or when I had a social activity meeting somebody for dinner.

2:38:05There's a lot of reasons why i didn't

2:38:07want to walk home in the dark and certainly

2:38:10not the dark path.

2:38:12Late night.

2:38:13So, I mean, I really understand people

2:38:14who feel like they need their car,

2:38:16even if they don't have children and then, I mean,

2:38:20I really kind of relate to it was a beautiful presentation

2:38:23looked really great.

2:38:24It looked like a thing you would want in your town.

2:38:27But I'm concerned about the height of the buildings It was

2:38:29kind of unclear from the chart that was either a six

2:38:32story or seven story or an eight story

2:38:35depending like six current regulations.

2:38:37Seven is I don't know what an 8 is possible state, something

2:38:41that really wasn't clear to me at all,

2:38:44but I've seen the structures that were built at McArthur

2:38:48where I happened to be going one time in the last year,

2:38:51and they looked so monolithic to me.

2:38:53They're huge And I also relate to the person

2:38:56you said we may lose our view.

2:38:59You know, I feel sorry for the people

2:39:00who have a house one, two, three, four,

2:39:03five blocks up the street.

2:39:04And maybe now they can see the sunset

2:39:07and after that, they're just going to see

2:39:08the top of this building.

2:39:10And I mean, I think it would make a difference how

2:39:11it's going to look in our city.

2:39:13If it's six, seven, or eight And I think that it would be

2:39:15nice to know a little bit more about that Other than that,

2:39:19I think everybody for coming to make the presentation You're

2:39:22trying to relate to our community needs

2:39:24and to congresswoman Wilson for keeping on hammering

2:39:30about the transportation for the people in the hills

2:39:33because I think it's going to be hard for them to walk

2:39:36back up the hill at night.

2:39:37So thank you.

2:39:38Thank you. you for all of the president's vision.

2:39:41And thank you for everybody listening to us.

2:39:45In Q and stickers.

2:39:47Jeff Levine.

2:39:48Jack, you should be able to answer and begin your time now.

2:39:52Thank you.

2:39:53Jeff Levine, policy director with these big housing

2:39:55organizations. and also a thirty two

2:39:57year resident of El Cerrito.

2:39:59I strongly support this project.

2:40:01I'm really excited to see that it's moving forward.

2:40:03It provides us with a really unique opportunity

2:40:06to provide a vibrant, mixed and mixed income development

2:40:09with housing, retail, community facilities and public

2:40:12open space All of this could be a vital center for our city,

2:40:16and it's designed right.

2:40:17Can have strong synergy with ulcerate plaza.

2:40:20It can also be an important source of revenue for the city

2:40:22including property tax, sales tax,

2:40:24and business tax generated not only directly on site,

2:40:27but indirectly through increased spending

2:40:29in the surrounding area.

2:40:31Transit oriented developments like this one

2:40:33are smart developer They help address

2:40:35the regional and local need for housing

2:40:37will also helping to reduce greenhouse gas emissions

2:40:40and meet our regional climate goals.

2:40:42We're really encouraged by the plan for

2:40:44significant affordable housing.

2:40:46Thirty seven percent lower and 12 percent moderate

2:40:49income balzary required by law to include

2:40:51a minimum of 20 percent lower income housing station.

2:40:55But they also need to attain an affordable housing share of 30

2:40:58to thirty five percent across the system

2:41:00as a whole similar to what they've done historically.

2:41:02In the plans for the Plaza development

2:41:04put the site firmly aligned with those goals.

2:41:07We urge the city to work with Barton, the developer,

2:41:09to pursue as many funding sources

2:41:11as possible to maximize the number

2:41:14and depth of affordability for the lower income units.

2:41:16Similar to how you just voted to be a co applicant.

2:41:19For HSBC.

2:41:20Funding for the Mayford development.

2:41:22It's been noted that a B twenty nine twenty three requires

2:41:25the city to own the site in accordance with the zoning

2:41:28standards set by BART and by a B twenty nine

2:41:30twenty three itself.

2:41:31At the same time, as long as it doesn't prevent the development

2:41:35from meeting those standards the city does retain

2:41:37authority for design review.

2:41:39So there's an opportunity to ensure we have a high quality

2:41:42design that enhances the area and promotes

2:41:44a really vital urban space.

2:41:46We know there are a lot of issues that

2:41:48need to be addressed in the public's keenly

Howdy Goudey asked for all-electric buildings and attention to embodied carbon, and said the Mayfair modules had produced what he estimated as roughly 10 acres of single-use plastic wrap sent to landfill.

On demolition: “the promise of reducing construction waste is not really realized there.”

The caution: “even though we're doing great, innovative things, we have to keep our eye on really doing the best we can to limit waste… [and] not letting things slide here and there.”

What the speaker welcomed: “the reefing of the greenway path along the side, taking out the traffic along that side” — which “could really improve the pedestrian experience.” He was disappointed by a street dividing the development from the station.

Linda Kane, an 18-year commuter from the station, said there are reasons people need to drive, and asked for clarity on whether buildings would be six, seven or eight stories.

Jeff Levine of East Bay Housing Organizations named the revenue case: the development “can also be an important source of revenue for the city, including property tax, sales tax, and business tax” — “not only directly on site, but indirectly through increased spending in the surrounding area.”

And its framing: such developments “help address the regional and local need for housing while also helping to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.”

The affordability figures were welcomed specifically: “thirty seven percent lower and 12 percent moderate.”

Significant

A speaker welcomes removing traffic from beside the Ohlone Greenway, and says the promise of reduced construction waste was not realized at Mayfair, where he estimates roughly 10 acres of plastic module wrap went to landfill.

26 A citywide parking plan captions 3041–3122

2:41:50interested in design for parking, transportation,

2:41:52access financing, and more.

2:41:54So we hope to see a whole series of public engagement

2:41:57workshops going forward.

2:41:59Last week, Bart gave a presentation

2:42:01to Berkeley's community Advisory Group

2:42:03on BART Station development to describe the pending Berkeley

2:42:06street Corridor Access plan.

2:42:09We haven't heard of a similar meeting in El Cerrito

2:42:11and we'd urge the city and BART to sponsor such a meeting.

2:42:15We know there's a lot of concerns

2:42:16about parking and about bike, pedestrian and transit

2:42:19access to the station.

2:42:20And it would be really helpful to involve

2:42:22the public early in both the corridor

2:42:24and stations Specific access studies as a way

2:42:27to build more support for this project.

2:42:30So thank you.

2:42:31We look forward to an ongoing process of public engagement

2:42:34as this development moves forward to our next speaker

2:42:39is Tony La Liddick.

2:42:41Tony, you should be able to meet yourself, and begin

2:42:43your time out I good evening.

2:42:48Members of the council am making this comment in support

2:42:51of Biden at the L'ESPRIT, a positive bART station,

2:42:54parking lots my family's lives.

2:42:56In all seriousness, nineteen eighty six.

2:42:58And I'm a graduate of high school.

2:43:00My point is simple.

2:43:01The nonprofit status plaza station

2:43:04parking lots is a drain on taxes and the acres

2:43:07of impermeable pavement There is a tax on drains The parking

2:43:12lots The Plaza BART station presents an opportunity

2:43:14to grow Elstree to sustainably And while I acknowledge

2:43:18that the challenge is presented in the presentation tonight,

2:43:22i encourage the council to move forward with the planning

2:43:25process to consider mitigations to improve access

2:43:29Do not listen to the nattering nabobs of next door negative.

2:43:34Thank you Our next speaker is Gail gail.

2:43:38You should be able to meet in your time now.

2:43:42Thank you.

2:43:43My name is gail Feldman and I'm a resident of Kensington.

2:43:46I'm also a director of the Kensington Property association

2:43:50and a writer of the BART system.

2:43:53And yes fortunately, I'm one of those people who

2:43:57is very concerned about access to the station

2:44:00once the project is done.

2:44:03And I'm not opposed to the project,

2:44:06but I do have concerns about some of the data

2:44:08that's being used right now.

2:44:11By the BART staff and describing who uses the system

2:44:17and how they get their I don't feel that that's study

2:44:21was adequately done to illustrate

2:44:24how people, particularly up in the hills use the system

2:44:29and are able to access it or what their options are if they

2:44:32can't drive to the station.

2:44:34Unfortunately, we don't.

2:44:36We are very limited in how to get to the station.

2:44:39So i am encouraged to see that there

2:44:41is some discussion about parking,

2:44:43that there's access studies being done.

2:44:46Please do include us in those public discussions

2:44:50around the corridor access plan because well, I'm just

2:44:53from Kensington of Berkeley Hills residents

2:44:56and berkeley also have the same issue I would also

2:45:00like to comment that i know there has

2:45:04been some discussion in the past with bART

2:45:06and the Plaza operators.

2:45:09How that might be drawn into this plan.

2:45:11For encouraging some type of access

2:45:14for people who can't take public transportation

2:45:16or can't walk to the station That is very important.

2:45:20To understand.

2:45:21There were over a thousand cars pre

2:45:24pandemic coming into the station on a daily basis.

2:45:28And I know that you are not planning

2:45:31place that much parking and it needs to be addressed,

2:45:36whether it's through some type of city wide parking management

2:45:39plan and i would hope that we would

2:45:42see those types of solutions.

2:45:45Well before your master plan is developed so that we know

2:45:50that there will be access to the BART station

Gail Feldman, a director of the Kensington Property Owners Association, set out the counterweight: “there were over a thousand cars pre-pandemic coming into the station on a daily basis,” and access for “people who can't take public transportation or can't walk to the station… is very important.”

Her request: a “city wide parking management plan” with solutions identified “well before your master plan is developed.”

Other speakers supported building on the lots, one calling the six acres of parking a nuisance and favoring market-based parking, another from the Housing Action Coalition noting that parking raises housing costs; one asked for a plan to replace any parking removed. Jeff Levine asked for public meetings on the access studies like one BART had held in Berkeley.

Significant

Over a thousand cars a day used the station before the pandemic. Speakers split between keeping access for those who must drive and minimizing replacement parking, with one suggesting it go to del Norte. The on-street parking management resolution a speaker asks for in October never arrives in this archive.

27 A long road ahead captions 3123–3293

2:45:53and to critical, important regional transit system

2:45:57for us to use.

2:45:58And I do also want to say that transit,

2:46:01while they operate buses into the city, into San Francisco,

2:46:05not all trips from the Plaza Station

2:46:09are made to San Francisco We use it

2:46:12to go to many different jurisdictions and stations

2:46:16throughout the system.

2:46:18Thank you so much Thank you.

2:46:21Next, because Marion marion should be able to unmeaning

2:46:25Begin your time now.

2:46:29Hello, hello.

2:46:30Can you hear me ? can you hear me ? yes, we can.

2:46:35Please go ahead.

2:46:36OK, yes.

2:46:38I was also wondering about the parking.

2:46:41Could you tell me how many parking outs would

2:46:43be eliminated by budget plan ?

2:46:46Construction How many parking spaces would be eliminated

2:46:52parking spaces can mean, this is the time for you to provide

2:46:58your comments to the city.

2:46:59Council.

2:47:00It's not a time for response to questions.

2:47:03OK, all right.

2:47:04My comment would be that whatever number of parking

2:47:08spaces are eliminated there should be a plan

2:47:10to replace them somehow, possibly

2:47:13by finding some someplace to build a parking structure.

2:47:20and possibly, hopefully But would would

2:47:26help with the cost of that.

2:47:28But in any case, some kind of a plan to replace the the

2:47:36removed parking spaces should be developed That's

2:47:40really all I wanted to say.

2:47:44Thank you My next speaker is Dan Cloaked in should be able to

2:47:48and begin your time now.

2:47:52Yeah.

2:47:53Hi.

2:47:53Thank you.

2:47:54You for the opportunity to address the council.

2:47:57I would very close to the project As a matter of fact,

2:48:00I can look out my window at the moment.

2:48:04And along with many of my neighbors

2:48:07we're very excited about this project.

2:48:09and particularly about the prospects

2:48:12of making those downtown an urbanized town.

2:48:18So close to where we live an additional community,

2:48:24one that wasn't raised when we were talking about community

2:48:27benefits during the presentation is to abate the nuisance of six

2:48:32acres of parking and an open parking lot

2:48:36here at in addition to being an environmental problem

2:48:41and I saw it also, of course, the traffic

2:48:45of bringing in that many vehicles

2:48:48into the neighborhood where we live is definitely

2:48:53a negative for those of us who live close to the station

2:48:58And it would be good if we can focus on developing

2:49:06a urbanized idea of what this station is,

2:49:10what this part of the city is for the benefit

2:49:14of all l'ESPRIT residents.

2:49:18Now, as far as the parking in the neighborhood,

2:49:24I would just want to know that living here,

2:49:28there's definitely a surfeit of street parking during the

2:49:34and i think market based solution, which stops

2:49:40subsidizing the use of providing free parking to people

2:49:45And certainly, we would want to take some

2:49:48of the funds in availability to provide community benefits

2:49:54and spend it on parking.

2:49:55We wanted to spend community benefits that benefit

2:50:00all elstree to residents no matter how they

2:50:04get to and from the station.

2:50:07Thank you for your attention.

2:50:10You are next because Nico Nagel, Nico favore, unmuted.

2:50:15Begin your time now.

2:50:20Hi, my renagel.

2:50:22I am here on behalf of the housing action Coalition.

2:50:27Pro housing organization covering all nine counties,

2:50:32doing work in Sacramento Our our mission St. Polje

2:50:38our mission statement as an organization for twenty years

2:50:42now has been to create new homes at all levels of affordability.

2:50:48And that is as a response to our afford mobility crisis

2:50:53that results from a shortage of homes in the Bay Area

2:50:59has been the highest rental prices

2:51:04and the highest home prices in the country and in the world.

2:51:09Per capita because we haven't produced enough homes.

2:51:13And these kinds of opportunities as recognized

2:51:17by part as recognized by folks in the community here

2:51:21activists on the ground are immeasurably important

2:51:26right now.

2:51:27No single project being sold all the problems the community has,

2:51:31but certainly opportunities to create

2:51:34the number of units being proposed here is

2:51:37is massively important.

2:51:38So on top of that we are a state where twenty five

2:51:44percent of our greenhouse gas emissions

2:51:46come from folks driving to work in the morning

2:51:50and it would be pretty hard to forget that we have

2:51:55super commuters were region becoming famous

2:51:58for super commuting, which has a human cost on barrier residents

2:52:05and those who used to be Bay Area residents of missing

2:52:11missing out on you meeting their their kids at home

2:52:16to help with homework or driving their kids

2:52:18to work and the morning.

2:52:21And so there's a human cost around not

2:52:24providing enough housing near transit

2:52:27centers and near job centers.

2:52:29And I think bellisario and BART have become

2:52:34well positioned at this moment.

2:52:36To help solve that problem. and create human opportunities

2:52:42and and really contribute to our shared environmental goals.

2:52:49So on behalf of the organization it

2:52:51is worth i need to see this proposal begin to move forward

2:52:57And yeah, I do want to note as well that a well, it's not

2:53:03the ultimate driving force behind the cost of housing,

2:53:07parking spaces wrapped into a project

2:53:10really to bump up the cost of that housing and know.

2:53:15My priority here is to create affordability for folks

2:53:18who want to live here.

2:53:19So i appreciate your time.

2:53:21Thanks.

2:53:22Looking forward to moving forward Thank you, Mayor.

2:53:26That does conclude request to speak at this time.

2:53:29Thank you very much.

2:53:30Thank you for all residents who have

2:53:32made comments here tonight.

2:53:34And before we move on to the next just as mayor,

2:53:37I want to make a quick few closing comments about what's

2:53:40ahead for us, because I think we have

2:53:43quite an adventure ahead of us.

2:53:45And I think it's a good long term positive adventure

2:53:48for Alfredo It's a redefinition of our city

2:53:52I'm reminded of an email a few months ago

2:53:54that I got from a resident who said every day he drives

2:53:58by the parking lots at BART and sees it

2:54:01as a wasteland and imagines what could be their well, what could

2:54:05be their new residential retail center, new housing

2:54:10and every category critical revenue

2:54:12for our city and possibly a library You know,

2:54:16there will be those who say we should

2:54:18not do nothing in this area.

2:54:20I've heard from residents who don't want us to grow

2:54:24They'd rather not grow old.

2:54:25Growth in the Bay Area is whatever

2:54:27every city has to confront and we have to deal It's a reality.

2:54:32And we have mandates from the state to build housing.

2:54:35So we have to grow elsewhere.

2:54:38Is growth, as we all know, is limited to San Pablo Avenue.

2:54:42and our two BART stations which is very good for climate

2:54:45change issues and and making sure

2:54:48that we respond in that way.

2:54:52Know, make no mistake about it, this is a BART project

2:54:55that they have given us their word that we will work together

2:54:59and they have decided that they want

2:55:02to prioritize the Plaza Station and one

2:55:04that they want to showcase.

2:55:06They've publicly promised to be responsive So far

2:55:09they have that.

2:55:10And we have to hold them to that.

2:55:12I've expressed my concern about parking access especially

2:55:16for the Hill residents and retail and office needs

2:55:20And I want to see the facts about how

2:55:22a library can work here.

2:55:24But I also want to hear from our residents

2:55:25as the rest of our council members do,

2:55:28and keep a strong dialogue open with BART and our residents.

2:55:32This is a long term project There's

2:55:34nothing except ideas of planning happening right now.

2:55:38And from the chart that we saw tonight,

2:55:40it's not a it's more than four years before construction

2:55:43is happening.

2:55:44So thank you for your comments.

2:55:46There's a long exciting road ahead

2:55:48and El Cerrito is going to be a better

The presentation closed with the Mayor's summary and a reminder of what had not been decided.

His framing: “there's a long exciting road ahead, and El Cerrito is going to be a better place [when] this is all done.”

He described a resident who saw the lots as a wasteland, said growth is limited to San Pablo Avenue and the two BART stations, that “this is a BART project” and BART had promised to be responsive, and repeated his concern about parking for hill residents and about retail and office needs. Construction was more than four years away.

No action was taken; it was a presentation.

What remains open: the library, the parking quantum, the phasing, the retail mix, the parcel outside the specific plan, and how the city would pay for anything it wants that the developer is not providing.

What is settled: BART keeps the land, the developer leases and builds, half the homes are income-restricted, and the project is about half the city's next housing cycle target.

Further public workshops were scheduled, beginning 25 May.

The Mayor moved the meeting along “as quickly as we can, because it's a long night.”

Four public hearings followed.

Significant

The presentation is received and filed — nothing is approved, and the questions of library, parking and phasing all remain open. By October 2021 the parking figures are firmer: a maximum of 350 spaces, 34% of existing, with a minimum of 14%.

28 Landscape and lighting captions 3294–3494

2:55:50place than this is all done.

2:55:53And now i want to move on to as quickly as we can because it's

2:55:56a long night to our next.

2:55:58We have a public hearing and the city clerk, if I'm correct,

2:56:04it's a public hearing to confirm the levy

2:56:08assessment for the fiscal year.

2:56:09Twenty twenty one for the landscape and lighting

2:56:11assessment District and can we please

2:56:14have our city staff to give a presentation for this Area It

2:56:31is.

2:56:33I shamen i city mayor fidele, how are you doing ?

2:56:38doing pretty well.

2:56:39You have you had a lot of stuff.

2:56:41This you.

2:56:42Yes, I I have three of the three of them for public hearings

2:56:48this evening. the first of which is the public hearing

2:56:52for the landscape, the lighting assessment district number

2:56:55twelve eighty eight staff is seeking the adoption

2:56:59of a resolution setting the landscape and mining assessment

2:57:01at seventy $2 per parcel for residential properties

2:57:05and other classes of charges as outlined in the report.

2:57:08These fees are used to provide landscaping lighting, street

2:57:12sweeping and maintenance for the Parks

2:57:14and recreation facilities.

2:57:16The seventy dollar parcel assessment rate has not

2:57:19been increased since the since its inception

2:57:22in nineteen eighty eight.

2:57:24But costs have increased substantially.

2:57:27The passing of this resolution is

2:57:29critical to provide services.

2:57:32The services that were intended for this particular thing

2:57:35So the district has struggled to stay within budget to absorb

2:57:40the rising costs and utilities, personnel and supplies

2:57:43And although the budget will likely be very tight

2:57:46measures have been taken this year to redirect some

2:57:49of the funds from person personnel to utilities in order

2:57:54to work towards keeping the fund in balance.

2:57:57Also, the fund will receive additional taxation this year

2:58:01due to the addition of twenty five new residential and four

2:58:05commercial properties being added

2:58:07to the taxable The estimated addition will result

2:58:11in approximately thirty seven dollars

2:58:14So although it's a step in the right direction,

2:58:17further measures will have to be taken to cover

2:58:19excess funds needed to maintain existing levels of service

2:58:23to that end, at the end of the public hearing here,

2:58:27we asked the council accept the engineers report and adopt

2:58:31a resolution confirming a diagram

2:58:33and set the annual landscape and lighting

2:58:35assessment for fiscal year twenty twenty one twenty two.

2:58:39Add seventy $2 for residential parcel

2:58:42and other classes of charges as they appear

2:58:45in the engineer's report.

2:58:47I will be happy to answer any questions that I can answer

2:58:51And there is other staff here who can

2:58:53also answer specific questions.

2:58:56Thank you.

2:58:56Any questions come remarks Thank you, Mayor.

2:59:05Thank you, Shannon, for this present I

2:59:08do have a question I know that in the report

2:59:11the total coming total revenue from the assessment seven

2:59:15ninety five thousand and i work very hard to make sure

2:59:21that that covers most of the expenditure

2:59:24but it's clear that it costs more than

2:59:26that to provide these services.

2:59:29And I was wondering if you could tell us how much more there is

2:59:33And it sounds like we may need to do another assessment

2:59:39or something to make sure that the costs as they go up

2:59:42are in balance, what with what the service actually costs.

2:59:46Could you could you elaborate on that, please ?

2:59:49Well, what i'm going to do, because I

2:59:51don't really know what makes up all of these different costs.

2:59:54I'm going to let Andrew Krauss or Evet or TS who actually

2:59:59or a Vytautas whose the department

3:00:01director actually knows the ins and outs

3:00:04of that particular fund.

3:00:06And she can explain what is needed in those areas.

3:00:10So i don't know which one either.

3:00:14Andrew thank you.

3:00:16That.

3:00:18Good evening.

3:00:18Mayor.

3:00:19Council members event of these at the city's public

3:00:21works director and city engineer Yes.

3:00:24Currently, if you consider landscaping and lighting cost

3:00:29across all funds, we spend about one point forty million

3:00:33on landscaping and lighting and expenses and multiple funds

3:00:39most mostly and lighting the large fund but also

3:00:43the general fund gas tax measure And more recently a measure H.

3:00:51Currently a general fund budget landscape maintenance

3:00:55contracts, is two hundred and three thousand

3:00:59and that is reduced from the fiscal year when

3:01:03the general fund was contributing

3:01:05four eighty thousand dollars the reduction of more than half

3:01:09was due to measure h.

3:01:11We were able to backfill the general fund funding measure H

3:01:16as well as shifting to other special funds Right now,

3:01:22this year and next year.

3:01:24That are all our landscaping and lighting

3:01:28expenses will be able to be funded at the current level

3:01:32again.

3:01:33Again, and depending on your additional discussions

3:01:36in the coming months, But in fiscal year twenty to twenty

3:01:41three we'll need to be additional sources

3:01:43funding identified to keep existing levels of service.

3:01:46Although I'll have to be reduced most of the lighting expenses

3:01:51are in the transportation funds, the street lights

3:01:55are partly funding and lab more heavily funded

3:01:57by gas text messaging costs.

3:02:04Member does that after.

3:02:06Yes, I was taking notes.

3:02:08Thank you very much.

3:02:08That's really helpful to know.

3:02:11Thank you.

3:02:12And on that point, I want to ask the city manager.

3:02:14We've already we've had one election right That

3:02:16failed to try to start General.

3:02:20Yeah.

3:02:21To try and deal with this.

3:02:22And twenty six is that right.

3:02:24That is correct.

3:02:25And so this is a different.

3:02:27This is an election.

3:02:28But as i've shared with all of you the past

3:02:31and, and particularly for the new council members,

3:02:33landscaping, lighting, assessment

3:02:35district election is a very different type of election

3:02:38It's a problem.

3:02:39It needs to be done in accordance of Prop eighteen,

3:02:43which means it is a property owner

3:02:45about it measure as opposed to a voter ballot measure.

3:02:49It's a very different type of election

3:02:52and the amount of assessment on one property

3:02:56is the amount of votes that the property actually has.

3:03:00And Sky jump in.

3:03:01If I get if I mangle us too much.

3:03:03But essentially what we tried to do

3:03:05was create an entirely new lighting landscape and lighting

3:03:08assessment district two thousand six that would have not only

3:03:13reassessed the redone the formulas

3:03:16for the assessment on residential properties,

3:03:18but commercial properties as well.

3:03:21Including building in like a CPI increase

3:03:25And that failed largely a lot of it was the property owners

3:03:31with their higher assessment values that voted

3:03:34no ended really tipping the scales

3:03:37and this type of an election.

3:03:39It is what is called a majority protest.

3:03:42And so that is why there are more no

3:03:44votes or no more assessment's.

3:03:48Then the measure fails and residentially we the the city,

3:03:53the city's residents were largely in favor of it.

3:03:56But it was because the commercial properties have

3:03:58higher assessment value Add all of that

3:04:00value together that created the majority protest.

3:04:03And so the question is, should we look into doing again,

3:04:07perhaps it is indeed at this point

3:04:12it's a matter of capacity and bandwidth

3:04:14and it's a very expensive proposition.

3:04:16Because the city has to run the full election.

3:04:19It's not able to be contracted with the county.

3:04:21So it's certainly something to consider.

3:04:23Maybe a couple of years down the road

3:04:25is vetted, talked about where we're looking at various funds

3:04:28and how to reallocate funds accordingly.

3:04:31But this is it is a very different proposition,

3:04:34but it certainly is something that we're looking

3:04:37at everything to call you.

3:04:39Mayor Fidele.

3:04:40Everything's always on the table.

3:04:45This is something that's draining

3:04:46our general fund as well.

3:04:48So we need to talk about it.

3:04:49Are there any other comments from council members

3:04:54so now is the time.

3:04:56This is actually a public offering.

3:04:57And I need to open this up to be a public hearing

3:05:01The public is now open.

3:05:02This time, members of the public who

3:05:04wish to provide public comments for this item should use

3:05:07the raise a hand feature to request to speak Clark,

3:05:11will you please proceed at this time I am not

3:05:18seeing any requests to speak from members

3:05:21of the public on the call.

3:05:22Thank you very much.

3:05:23Do we have a motion to close the public hearing ?

3:05:26Can we have motion to move canto and seconded

3:05:31by council member Mohtarma Can we

3:05:34have a roll-call vote, please ?

3:05:35May I, Fidele ?

3:05:37I potemkin till i council.

3:05:40Remember Eagleson I can't remember motorama.

3:05:44I remember redneck.

3:05:46I motion carries Thank you.

3:05:49And now do we have a motion to approve this measure ?

3:05:53I will move to council member Mohtarma

3:05:57the motion to my a second a second

3:06:03I was to add if you didn't have to tell a second,

3:06:07can we have a roll please.

3:06:09And Fidele I know Potemkin I can't No Apison.

3:06:15I remember Mohtarma i can't remember redneck i motion case

The first public hearing confirmed the assessment for the landscape and lighting district.

The process is annual: confirm the diagram, then levy the assessment for the coming year.

The assessment pays for landscaping, lighting, street sweeping and maintenance of parks and recreation facilities.

The residential rate of $72 a parcel had not been raised since the district began in 1988, while costs had “increased substantially”; it raised about $795,000 against roughly $1.4 million spent on landscaping and lighting across all funds.

A question was raised about whether the assessments could be increased, and the answer identifies the obstacle.

The City Manager explained that a new district attempted in 2006 failed: in a property-owner ballot, votes are weighted by assessment, and commercial owners' no votes created a majority protest although residents largely supported it.

Doing so requires a ballot of affected property owners, and “the city has to run the full election. It's not able to be contracted with the county.”

So it is “a matter of capacity and bandwidth, and it's a very expensive proposition.”

It was put off: “maybe a couple of years down the road.”

The Mayor's response: “everything's always on the table.”

Significant

Raising assessment district rates requires the city to run its own property-owner election, which it cannot contract to the county; a 2006 attempt failed on weighted commercial votes. Public works said additional funding would be needed by 2022-23 to keep current service levels.

29 The storm drain report captions 3495–3545

3:06:22like Thank you very much move on to the public Hearing

3:06:26is regarding fiscal year twenty one twenty two

3:06:30storm drain annual report of the method

3:06:33of collecting the revenue for.

3:06:34I have a staff report please.

3:06:37This report is made available for review

3:06:39in your agenda packet and on the city's website.

3:06:42The annual report asked that the fifty dollar

3:06:45fee for each single family residential property

3:06:48be continue to provide funding for improvements,

3:06:51maintenance and operations of the city's storm drain system.

3:06:55The public sharing also provides an opportunity for property

3:06:59owners to contest the fee amount based on the actual use

3:07:02of their property.

3:07:04If so, warranted, If there is a protest of the existing

3:07:07method of collection, which is through the annual tax roll,

3:07:11the alternative is through the utilities services, which

3:07:14is actually more costly, and the collection of the fees

3:07:17would be more complicated and cumbersome upon conclusion

3:07:21of this public hearing, it is our wish

3:07:23that the council accept the twenty one twenty two

3:07:27storm drain annual report and adopt a resolution

3:07:31to direct that the storm drain fees be collected

3:07:33on the property tax rules.

3:07:36Are there any questions on this particular one ? any

3:07:40council questions No questions.

3:07:43Then I will open This hearing is now open and at this time,

3:07:47members of the public who wish to provide public comments

3:07:50for this item should raise their hand

3:07:52to request to speak Madam City Clerk, do we have any takers ?

3:08:00I do not have any request to speak on this item.

3:08:03Then do I have a motion to close the public hearing motion

3:08:08to close second, council member Rudbeck moves to close

3:08:12in council member and second, can we

3:08:14have a roll-call vote, please ?

3:08:15and finally, I may Putin come to I

3:08:20can remember Adilson I can remember what I

3:08:24and remember Reznik.

3:08:26I motion carries Thank you.

3:08:29Do I hear a motion to move this item ?

3:08:33I'll move theama, move this motion and council member

3:08:37Abels and seconds.

3:08:38Can we have a roll-call vote on this, please.

3:08:41Limón I was only is he there is in the audience.

3:08:54I have my apologies, Miss No problem.

3:08:59No problem.

3:09:00Sometimes I wish you still was on.

3:09:04OK fidele.

3:09:06I put in Quito I can't remember Apison I remember

3:09:13mittman I remember redneck.

3:09:16I she carries.

The second hearing covered the storm drain annual report and how the fee is collected.

The report asked that the $50 fee for each single-family residential property continue, “to provide funding for improvements, maintenance and operations of the city's storm drain system.”

The hearing also lets property owners contest the fee on the basis of how their property is actually used.

Collection is through the annual property tax roll; the alternative, billing through utility services, would be “more costly” and “more complicated and cumbersome.”

There were no Council questions and no public speakers. The report was accepted and collection on the tax roll confirmed.

Note

The storm drain fee continues at $50 per single-family property, collected on the tax roll because billing it separately would cost more. No one spoke at the hearing.

30 Two percent, plus changes captions 3546–3740

3:09:19Thank you very much and now we move on to the public hearing

3:09:23on the master fee schedule provisions for fiscal year

3:09:26twenty one twenty two and can you have the next,

3:09:29the third and your last report.

3:09:33Chanen tonight.

3:09:33Yae OK this evening i'm here to discuss the fiscal year.

3:09:38Twenty one twenty two annual master schedule

3:09:40the schedule and associate documents

3:09:42were made available for review and the council back

3:09:45and on the city's website, the proposed twenty twenty one

3:09:49twenty two schedule has been changed

3:09:51to make more uniform easy to read and changes were outlined

3:09:57in the agenda Will the master Phee adjustment explanation

3:10:00spread's and there were two documents from Fire

3:10:04and the Recreation Department for several changes

3:10:07that they made as you know, the master fee schedule includes

3:10:11all of the city user fees, charges for services

3:10:14and business license tax rates.

3:10:16In his revised annually adjustments

3:10:19the fees are intended to cover changes in the city's

3:10:22cost of providing services.

3:10:25We recommend that a two percent CPI increase be applied

3:10:29to the overall department fees that

3:10:31do not have specific rate changes or differences outlined

3:10:35elsewhere.

3:10:36In the schedule.

3:10:37While some of the fees remain constant,

3:10:39other proposed changes are based on the demand for services

3:10:43or current market trends.

3:10:45To allow the city to remain competitive.

3:10:47Regarding the services provided the schedule as it appears now

3:10:51shows the adjustments in calculations

3:10:53with both percentages and dollar amounts

3:10:56used to formulate the final numbers upon approval.

3:10:59The fees will be rounded up in most instances

3:11:02with the exception of particular fees

3:11:04in the building and public works departments

3:11:07that are not poll numbers.

3:11:09Those fees will remain in decimal format

3:11:12to assure the amounts are not misdated Most of the new rates

3:11:18for these changes will go into effect July one.

3:11:21Twenty, twenty one.

3:11:22With the exception of development

3:11:24which will go into effect sixty days

3:11:27after adoption of the resolution and the swim center

3:11:30day and overnight camps and preschool fees

3:11:34will go into effect September one.

3:11:36Twenty, twenty one.

3:11:38Any additional revenue will be included in the fiscal year.

3:11:41Twenty twenty one budget.

3:11:43And we have a couple of clarifications

3:11:46there was one fee that is in the solar and energy

3:11:52and battery storage page.

3:11:54Thirty seven.

3:11:54Thirty eight somewhere around there

3:11:57it was for the solar peevey fee for each KW.

3:12:03What is that kilowatt or fraction of it

3:12:06was stated that it was and sixty $5 when,

3:12:10in fact, it was two and fifty dollars

3:12:13plus fifteen dollars per kilowatt.

3:12:16So that change actually needs to be made.

3:12:19And then there was an issue, I believe

3:12:22with the public works hourly rates there may be an issue.

3:12:27And I need to actually check back.

3:12:29And if there is a correction that needs to be made,

3:12:32I will bring that to council in the next council meeting.

3:12:36So with that, I want to thank you for all of your time

3:12:41And there are staff members present here this evening

3:12:45from all the city apartments to address

3:12:47any specific issues you have regarding any questions you

3:12:50have in their areas.

3:12:52Thank you.

3:12:52I bet we could have spent all night on this, but Abels,

3:12:57I'm cutting back on my questions but I didn't have one question

3:13:02I'd like to ask at least.

3:13:04And that has to do with the fee for an excess of four parking

3:13:14illegally in an accessible parking space.

3:13:16I didn't find it on here.

3:13:19I'm the one about bus stops, and I would expect

3:13:22this to be kind the same.

3:13:24But I don't see it here.

3:13:25And I was wondering why not Not real

3:13:29sure where that would show.

3:13:30Maybe in police that particular fee it has to do with

3:13:36parking Well, so does the One of the bus

3:13:41stop So could you 11 to go ?

3:13:47Is that city wide These or is that a police fee ?

3:13:55no, it is a violation for parking

3:14:00in the in an accessible space.

3:14:02That's marked as an accessible space

3:14:05by a vehicle that doesn't have the proper placard

3:14:11or disabled card sitting in the place.

3:14:16And I'm particularly interested in it is not

3:14:19what you might think but rather I think we get the money

3:14:23if if we have it in our list Other state gets it

3:14:28or something like keith mid-evening council members.

3:14:33I'm Paul Keith, your chief of police

3:14:36To address your question, Councilman able

3:14:38send the the tickets for parking in access zones

3:14:44are set by the state of California.

3:14:47So because the state of California

3:14:49regulates those blue zones we can't also

3:14:52set our own rates for those blue zones, things like bus zones.

3:14:56We can set local rates on We just can't do

3:14:59it for the blue zones in town.

3:15:02So the blue zones, last I checked, I think was

3:15:04about seventy $5 on the city.

3:15:07Still does get a good portion of that.

3:15:09Two seventy $5.

3:15:10But that rate is set by the state.

3:15:13OK, let's that's fair answer.

3:15:16Thank you.

3:15:19Any other questions How are the questions on the Astrobee

3:15:29I've got some comments and questions.

3:15:31I just want to I have a I'm I have a lot of questions,

3:15:36but I won't do them all.

3:15:37The first one is I really like the parking distance

3:15:40that you've done upgrades the amount of money

3:15:43This is exact Exactly what our city should be doing.

3:15:46Whether it's comparative to other cities,

3:15:48finding places where we can get some revenue

3:15:52back into into our city.

3:15:55I think that's a great great thing.

3:15:59I had a question a couple emails from people who have asked

3:16:04for inspection and then they decided not to do the project

3:16:10while after the inspections happened

3:16:13and they don't get refunds.

3:16:14Is that a policy of our set, the policy of our city where

3:16:19and it's a three thousand dollar kind

3:16:22of inspection and inspection caused them to say,

3:16:25we won't do it.

3:16:26And then we don't give the money back Is that correct ?

3:16:30i would I would like to Melanie mintz back into the room so she

3:16:35can talk about this further Generally speaking, however,

3:16:42I'll wait for i'll wait for Melanie,

3:16:43generally speaking when it comes to fees and waiving fees

3:16:46for refunding fees, sometimes that does need to be an action

3:16:49of the council But I would like Melanie

3:16:51to address this particular issue Thank you Hello.

3:16:56It looks videos on, but for some reason, it's not showing me.

3:17:00But I'm in in general, our policy

3:17:04is that if the funds have been spent,

3:17:08then there is no recovery.

3:17:09If somebody were to withdraw a permit or an inspection

3:17:13before we've actually incurred the costs or the time

3:17:16we would consider a refund But if the cost or the time

3:17:19and city manager said, if council wanted to change that,

3:17:22but we basically offer operate on a cost recovery basis.

3:17:28And so once it's out and especially if that's any kind

3:17:30of outside expense of course.

3:17:32So staff time is also covered.

3:17:34And so wants to staff time spent,

3:17:36expended We unless we can find some extenuating

3:17:40circum stance that makes that warranted That is the policy.

3:17:45So if our inspector goes out, makes inspection

3:17:49and it doesn't look good and the resident says,

3:17:51I'm not going to do it, it's done.

3:17:55They've paid the bill and it stays with That's right.

3:17:59That's it.

3:18:00Unless there's a complaint appeal

3:18:03to the council or something I think that's right.

3:18:06Yeah.

3:18:07If it was appealed to the council.

3:18:09OK, secondly i want to congratulate

3:18:11the fire department for all the great changes they've made.

3:18:16We're talking about finding money in our city

3:18:19and doing the best you can and being creative The fire

3:18:22department was creative and they turned something that

3:18:25was very confusing and grouped together into individual fees

3:18:29that helps our revenue base.

3:18:31So I want to thank them.

3:18:33I'm not sure I understand the there's a residential

3:18:38fire permit that's free What's the reason we have that ?

3:18:44If it's free Is the chief or anyone here We

3:18:48have some neighbors that have complained about some people

3:18:51burning fires at their house and i want to say,

3:18:55do we go make sure they have a closed area

3:18:57to burn the fire see if we can see Chief Andoni on the call.

3:19:06But if anyone can find that right,

3:19:09so that is where the purchase Spences fire is that you,

3:19:12Chief Wynonie fire, then muted you can you hear me there ?

3:19:19You can say, OK, good evening.

3:19:24I guess my videos That's OK.

3:19:27We can hear you one second.

3:19:30Chief, I promoted You should be able to turn it on now.

3:19:39Can you hear me now ?

3:19:40Yes.

3:19:41OK, something happened there My Zouma went Good evening.

3:19:49Go to your fire chief And first of hand.

3:19:52Thank you.

3:19:54We put a lot of work into the revamp of it

3:19:57to answer a question about the about the fire permits.

3:20:03Up until last year, the only type of burn

3:20:07permit that we ever had was one that we used with Camp Herm's

3:20:12I'm sure most people are aware they have the lower area

The third hearing revised the master fee schedule, and the mechanism was explained.

What it covers: “all of the city['s] user fees, charges for services and business license tax rates.”

Its cycle: “revised annually,” with adjustments “intended to cover changes in the city's cost of providing services.”

The general recommendation: “a two percent CPI increase be applied to the overall department fees that do not have specific rate changes.”

With some fees held constant and others changed individually — the Fire and Recreation departments had proposed several. Staff corrected the solar permit fee to $250 plus $15 per kilowatt.

Abelson asked about fines for parking in accessible spaces; the police chief said the state sets them, at about $275. The Mayor asked about inspection fees not refunded when a project is dropped; staff said fees are not refunded once costs are incurred. The fire chief said the new residential fire-pit permit was free for now, to encourage people to apply.

Public comment addressed particular items in the schedule.

Significant

The fee schedule rises by a flat 2% CPI except where departments propose specific changes — the Fire and Recreation departments proposed several, including pool rates, which a speaker objects to.

31 Residents, and the pool captions 3741–4056

3:20:17than has the number of fire pits down there.

3:20:20And the Boy Scouts do when they do their camping out,

3:20:23they do a lot of campfires.

3:20:26That's part of their program up there.

3:20:30We've started last year The people standing

3:20:35outside buying the those type of covered pits

3:20:38you can get at home Depot.

3:20:40You know, we started getting a number of complaints obviously,

3:20:44with the fires in the day we started getting people that

3:20:49were, you know, getting a little concerned about

3:20:52And so my choice there was to have then our fire marshal,

3:20:58Chief Gibson to start the process to say,

3:21:02OK, let's start with where if you want to have open,

3:21:06probably open earnings, not the right word

3:21:09but a recreational fire in your yard.

3:21:12Here's a checklist that you have to call.

3:21:15You have to get the permit So we know that you're doing it.

3:21:19It gives us the ability, if we have to go to your property

3:21:23and make sure that you are meeting, building codes

3:21:26and fire codes for distance cover of screen covers

3:21:30But at that point, you know, we wanted to introduce it

3:21:34without a charge to get people to start calling in

3:21:38and getting these burn permits.

3:21:40We didn't we didn't know that.

3:21:41Professor the purpose is that there's a neighbor that

3:21:44complains about it We are educating

3:21:47our residents that they need a permit to do this,

3:21:50that that is correct.

3:21:52Basically.

3:21:52Right.

3:21:53OK, yes.

3:21:53Thank you.

3:21:54Thank you. very much.

3:21:55OK, and thanks for the good work on that.

3:21:58I also wanted to congratulate for keeping a aDOS

3:22:03at the same rate eighty years or a policy

3:22:05that the city tries to encourage.

3:22:07So we don't need to raise those rates

3:22:09and keep those reasonable so that we can encourage to use I

3:22:14mean, I could go on and on recreation

3:22:15and that's a whole nother issue.

3:22:17And our audit our auditor said we should be more competitive.

3:22:21I don't maybe need to go into some of these costs,

3:22:24but I do see that nonresidents pay more, maybe not more,

3:22:30as some people would like.

3:22:31But it is more on swimming and other things

3:22:33And I think that's the calculus that was made on how

3:22:38much you should make for it.

3:22:40I'm trying to talk fast.

3:22:41Council member Rudbeck I don't throw in there.

3:22:49And I unmuted think that you are unmuted anyway.

3:22:55I do want to throw in there because it hasn't come up

3:22:57yet at the parking permit and it's

3:23:01a fairly significant increase.

3:23:02But also we are starting at a fairly significant low amount

3:23:07that we were charging for parking

3:23:09is now we've had this toddy project presented to us.

3:23:15We see how big of an impact this is going to have

3:23:18a parking in the community.

3:23:19So I hope for the community watching

3:23:22understand that this new well, it looks

3:23:26to be a very large inflation.

3:23:27We're really getting closer to market rate.

3:23:30And I really compliment staff on the analysis that they did.

3:23:35And this is a very big lift for folks to do.

3:23:38And I hope that staff feels proud

3:23:41because it's very clear what is needed to get

3:23:46us closer to cost recovery.

3:23:49We are really aligning ourselves with the auditors report

3:23:51and trying our best to incorporate pavri

3:23:55into everything that Thank you for that.

3:23:59And I want to ask counsel, I actually

3:24:01have a motion on this item that council

3:24:04member Rudnik mentioned a good time to raise that near you.

3:24:09Refrain from taking action until you've had the

3:24:11giving the public the opportunity

3:24:13to speak on the public hearing Thank you.

3:24:16Then I want to come back to where council members just

3:24:19mentioned any other comments before we go to the public

3:24:23Yes, please.

3:24:24Just briefly, i would just like to thank Stefano just doing

3:24:29a deep dive to get the information to make sure we

3:24:32were going to cost recovery.

3:24:34At the same time making things more streamlined for people.

3:24:36So simpler and easier to understand So I just

3:24:40really want to compliment jeff on that.

3:24:42Thank you.

3:24:43Thank you.

3:24:43And with that, can open the public

3:24:46It's now open at this time, members of the public who

3:24:50is to provide public comments on the item should raise your hand

3:24:54feature to request to speak.

3:24:56And I ask the city clerk to see if there's anyone that

3:24:58is requesting to speak We do have

3:25:01at least one request to speak.

3:25:03So anyone else would like to speak now would be the time

3:25:06to raise their hand and then we'll

3:25:08proceed with first speaker Denise Sync's Denise,

3:25:12you should be able to meet and begin your time now

3:25:15Thank you very much.

3:25:16I'd like to talk about two issues on the schedule

3:25:20The first one is about the pool I do not agree that the pool

3:25:24rates are fair to residents.

3:25:26I would like to see the pool rates increase by ten

3:25:30to fifteen percent on weekdays and twenty five percent

3:25:33on the weekends.

3:25:35And on holidays.

3:25:36I'd like to see them doubled.

3:25:37We should not be having residents that want to swim

3:25:40cannot get in on a hot day.

3:25:42Because nonresidents are their priority.

3:25:44Should be given to us because we already an assessment as well.

3:25:48So our cost, if we use the pool less than ten times a year,

3:25:52our cost is significantly higher than a non resident

3:25:55And that's just not fair.

3:25:57So i would ask you to reconsider the pool prices The other one I

3:26:01wanted to mention is that Chief Bocconi was talking about which

3:26:04is and Mayor Fidele about the the no fee for the firepit

3:26:12I guess I was the second one in the city

3:26:14to apply for that permit.

3:26:15And I was first I was surprised that we needed to do that,

3:26:19but I was so grateful when our former fire prevention officer

3:26:25came to my house and explained to me

3:26:27the rules showed where it was safe to use it in my yard.

3:26:30And talk to me about how to properly extinguish it,

3:26:33even though mine was covered.

3:26:35I gladly would pay a fee for that service.

3:26:39And I would like to encourage you to do that.

3:26:43Appreciate it.

3:26:44Can save our communities.

3:26:45It can save our irresponsible neighbors.

3:26:49I have some that burn in open pits in their backyard

3:26:53It's that are not lined with brick

3:26:55and it sets up on fires and blows ashes

3:26:58and it is caught fire once before my backyard

3:27:01from ash coming over.

3:27:03So I, I like the idea of charging for that permit.

3:27:06I'm really happy to write the first check because I think

3:27:09it's a matter of safety and anything that makes

3:27:12our neighbourhood safer today.

3:27:14Is money.

3:27:15Well worth spent.

3:27:16So thank you very much Thank you.

3:27:19Thank you.

3:27:19You.

3:27:20Are next speakers Dan Schulman You should

3:27:22be able to meet him in a time.

3:27:25Thanks.

3:27:26Yeah, just a quick comment on the police

3:27:30for responding to a residential alarm system.

3:27:36False alarm.

3:27:36I saw that there were I think the first one is no cost.

3:27:39And then it kind escalates from there.

3:27:40I just want to make sure that those are high enough for cost

3:27:43of coverage, because I think from my understanding of what

3:27:46I've heard or seen in the data, we

3:27:48I think police department does respond

3:27:50to a lot of those false alarms.

3:27:52And so we're getting cost recovery

3:27:53for those i you you that does conclude request

3:27:59to speak on this item on.

3:28:06Thank you.

3:28:09Can we have a motion to close the public hearing

3:28:12to the motion if we close the public council

3:28:17member Avildsen makes the motions six gabriel kento

3:28:22our mayor pro tem.

3:28:23Second that can be a roll call.

3:28:25Vote on this, please.

3:28:27Is the alley here ?

3:28:30I mean, yes may put Encanto Yes, Councilman apison.

3:28:38Yes council member Moltmann, yes.

3:28:41Council member.

3:28:41I think motion carries Thank you I just

3:28:46wanted to get to my motion on what council

3:28:48member rubberneckers speaking about the parking

3:28:51We refer to it for three years.

3:28:53I think there's a lot it's a major increase this year.

3:28:58We have a lot of confusion with Bart planning going on.

3:29:01I just wanted to move to lock that.

3:29:02In 4, 3 years.

3:29:04If we could, to make sure people read this analysis,

3:29:07know that out will be the cost that they will

3:29:09pay for the next three years.

3:29:11And not do an increase until we get more information from BART

3:29:14and move on after three years.

3:29:17And yes, actually, with the schedule

3:29:20would add I know Melanie's on this,

3:29:23but with the schedule contemplates

3:29:25is that these permits are sold for a three year, essentially.

3:29:29And so if someone buys a permit, they will be for three years.

3:29:33So so once you buy it, I would say that we what we do

3:29:37is we have to list the per year cost

3:29:44but it is a three year permits If you buy this permit,

3:29:47it will last for three years.

3:29:49And certainly each year, we will be

3:29:52able to come back to the city council

3:29:54and make that determination as well.

3:29:56So, Melanie, I don't if you want to add anything to that i do.

3:30:00And I appreciate the question because so back in, I

3:30:04think it was in town and in one city council determined

3:30:07and I wasn't a part of it.

3:30:09So I don't have the full background

3:30:10and we didn't listen to it that the permits

3:30:14would go to three year permits.

3:30:16And I assume this had to do with administrate costs

3:30:19and they haven't transitioned.

3:30:20There's different zones and they didn't

3:30:22all transition to three years.

3:30:24So some have already been three years, some have been 2,

3:30:26and some have won coincidentally.

3:30:28So as we were planning and community development

3:30:31just started managing this last year.

3:30:34And as we looked into it i know that sean Malkmus,

3:30:39our planning manager, met with PD who had

3:30:40previously administered it and said, are

3:30:42we ready to go to all three ?

3:30:44But because we do about a third of them per year,

3:30:47this is the first year that they will all be on three years.

3:30:49So really the permit is a three year permit at thirty six

3:30:54a year.

3:30:55So instead of a twenty one dollar permit,

3:30:57it's one and eight and instead of a seven,

3:30:59it's thirty six We also did learn, by the way,

3:31:01that richmond is at twenty two is actually going up.

3:31:04We didn't get the number I didn't reveal it yet

3:31:06but it is also for the same purposes.

3:31:08I'm sure a twist on this.

3:31:11However, is I was talking to Tony

3:31:14Katsaros, who works as an administrative clerk,

3:31:16issuing them.

3:31:17There are some permits that are still there's only two years

3:31:21remaining in the term So that's why

3:31:24it was hard to kind figure out how

3:31:25to put it in the fee schedule.

3:31:27So you basically buy into whatever is remaining.

3:31:30And if somebody moved in today.

3:31:32And there was only two years that if somebody was trying

3:31:35to get a permit tomorrow and that zone is already

3:31:40the first year into three years, they

3:31:42would only be doing a per year.

3:31:43They would only be able to buy two years.

3:31:45So the point is keeping all of the zones on the same cycle

3:31:49at this point, i think it came up in the previous present

3:31:52And as the city manager said, we do

3:31:53want to look at our whole parking permit program There's

3:31:55a need to work with the new development,

3:31:58with changes in state law around dwelling types.

3:32:01So we think we want to revamp it.

3:32:03And now we just want to move closer to cost recovery.

3:32:06We do plan the city manager talked

3:32:09and we want to do a mailing to all those in the zone.

3:32:11So that they know about I was going to say

3:32:13we're going to hear from them.

3:32:14I mean, we also want to get your bump up,

3:32:18Tony, at the front counter heads up.

3:32:20So she has the language of cost recovery.

3:32:22And we will do a mailing to explain it as well.

3:32:26That should have been in the analysis

3:32:28But just so that if people we can point back to it and say we

3:32:32did talk about it in the council knew about it,

3:32:34but that's right.

3:32:34And we'll also put on our Web pages

3:32:36because we think that's where more people get their info

3:32:37than the master fee schedule.

3:32:39Probably.

3:32:40So we'll put it in and we'll put the resolution

3:32:42where council did say that it goes to three years

3:32:44and we'll also give the analysis,

3:32:46OK, yeah, that's right.

3:32:47Amount of money.

3:32:48I just pay as you go.

3:32:49Might have been a little easier, cheaper going.

3:32:52Do you have any comments about the fire fee ?

3:32:54Is that something you want to discuss or should

3:32:57we just move forward with Know what I was,

3:33:00what I was going to finish saying earlier

3:33:03was we wanted i mean, we wanted people to pull these, be

3:33:08educated And our plan is not I mean,

3:33:12because we just started this last year is to

3:33:17or eventually probably within the next fee schedule is we

3:33:20will start charging for But we wanted you know,

3:33:23we didn't want make it a shock factor

3:33:25where nobody would come and get it.

3:33:27We wanted to do the educational part at a free charge,

3:33:31but we will start charging for them Thank you.

3:33:34Do I hear a motion on this new fee

3:33:36structure Council member broadneck Mosi I

3:33:41move to approve submit it all.

3:33:46It's the last in the as I've said,

3:33:54and move to approve the massive schedule

3:33:57revisions for fiscal year twenty twenty one twenty twenty.

3:34:01I guess Council member April.

3:34:03Ten seconds.

3:34:04Can we have a roll call.

3:34:06Can I ask a quick question.

3:34:07Do I need to amend with that correction.

3:34:10The shannon mentioned about solar permits Yes.

3:34:17If, if the motion could include just

3:34:19including clarification that we will

3:34:21make an administrative fix.

3:34:22Yes.

3:34:23Thank you.

3:34:25Administrative fix to holly.

3:34:28I totally served you there.

3:34:30Roll-Call vote, please. if you need to.

3:34:33It means i may put in Quito.

3:34:37I can't remember Avildsen I can't remember atima.

3:34:41I can't remember.

3:34:43I think I motion carries.

3:34:45Thank you.

3:34:46Thank you.

3:34:47Half an hour until eleven o'clock.

3:34:50I'd like to move to policy matters

3:34:52and this is our general fund budget update for march twenty

3:34:56twenty twenty.

3:34:58If i may still have one more application

Public comment on the fee schedule concentrated on one facility and one question of fairness.

The speaker's position: “I do not agree that the pool rates are fair to residents.”

Her proposal: rates “increase by ten to fifteen percent on weekdays and twenty five percent on the weekends. And on holidays, I'd like to see them doubled.”

Her reason is access, not revenue: “we should not be having residents that want to swim [who] cannot get in on a hot day, because nonresidents are” filling the space.

Her claim to priority: “priority should be given to us, because we already” pay “an assessment as well.”

And the arithmetic that follows: “our cost, if we use the pool less than ten times a year, [is] significantly higher than a non resident['s].”

The same speaker said she would gladly pay for a fire-pit permit, and another asked that false-alarm fees cover their cost. Rudnick said the parking permit increase moved closer to cost recovery, in line with the auditor's report. The Mayor proposed holding permit prices for three years pending the BART plans; staff said permits are already sold for three years, at $36 a year.

The hearing was closed and the revisions adopted, with an administrative fix for the solar fee. Most rates take effect 1 July; development fees 60 days after adoption; swim center, camp and preschool fees 1 September.

Note

A resident who pays the parcel assessment argued that infrequent resident swimmers pay more than non-residents, and proposed higher weekday, weekend and holiday rates. A councilmember described the parking permit increase as moving toward cost recovery, in line with the state auditor's report.

32 Extensions by application captions 4057–4323

3:35:00No more public hearing.

3:35:03We do include.

3:35:04Oh, my God, that's that's a big one.

3:35:11Yes.

3:35:11Just one moment.

3:35:12Ayesha's coming up.

3:35:14She's going to be doing the presentation on the site.

3:35:15I'm sorry.

3:35:16About that.

3:35:18Yeah.

3:35:19Thank you.

3:35:21Good evening.

3:35:22Public hearing the ordinance of the city of Salvador

3:35:25mending the Alfredo Municipal code to amend regulations

3:35:29for inclusionary zoning.

3:35:30I apologize Good evening, Mayor Fidele.

3:35:34Council members, members of the public.

3:35:35My name is Aisa Shuri.

3:35:37I'm the housing analyst and the community

3:35:38development department.

3:35:40For your consideration tonight is a public hearing

3:35:43to consider an ordinance amending

3:35:46the city of Elstree municipal Code Chapter nineteen point

3:35:50three, The Inclusionary zoning just

3:35:52to give everyone a little background on how, where,

3:35:55where we were and how we got here.

3:35:57And what we're asking for tonight

3:35:58I just want to remind you that you

3:36:00all adopted the specific plan in twenty fourteen.

3:36:04I'm really realizing our cities housing needs

3:36:06and our regional housing needs.

3:36:08And subsequent to the adoption of this specific plan in twenty

3:36:12seventeen, the Affordable housing strategy

3:36:14was adopted and not really identify ways

3:36:18that we can produce, protect and preserve our affordable housing

3:36:21stock here in Ulcerate for residents, one of the policy

3:36:25tools that was identified in the affordable housing strategy

3:36:28was leveraging private development to address

3:36:30affordable housing needs and so after that

3:36:33happened after this strategy was adopted in twenty seventeen,

3:36:37we brought forward and inclusionary zoning ordinance

3:36:40that was ultimately adopted in May of twenty eighteen At that

3:36:45time that the ordinance was adopted it did exempt entitled

3:36:50project and projects with complete applications

3:36:55and provided them an exemption contingent building permit

3:36:59was issued within two years of their entitlement

3:37:03or by June 30th of twenty twenty one whichever came first

3:37:08That was done with the intent Recognizing

3:37:10that economic feasibility study for the inclusionary analysis

3:37:14really realizing that those properties were purchased

3:37:17without this assumption.

3:37:19So when the land was sold that was not a factor Fast

3:37:23forward projects broke ground began construction

3:37:27in twenty nineteen, but obviously no one

3:37:30knew what twenty twenty was going to bring.

3:37:32And due to the COGAT pound last June, you all

3:37:36took action to extend the exemption exemptions and that

3:37:40was through a blank extension.

3:37:42So again, it was for all the projects

3:37:44that were previously exempt and that pretty much gave everyone

3:37:48through June 30th of twenty twenty one, assuming

3:37:52that a building permit would be issued within Six

3:37:56months submittal and that the exemption would

3:37:59expire next month, June 30th.

3:38:01Twenty, twenty And so last June, we had no clue

3:38:04that this shelter in place would run

3:38:06the duration of twenty twenty.

3:38:07We thought things might be back to normal in the fall,

3:38:10but unfortunate that didn't happen.

3:38:13And as a result of what we went through most of last year

3:38:17that the last twelve have caused significant delays

3:38:21for these projects in the construction

3:38:23and in the financing sector.

3:38:26So along with that, several of the projects

3:38:31have reached out to us and they have and they're

3:38:34intending to move forward.

3:38:36But there is obviously some obstacles

3:38:39with climbing construction costs with construction being halted

3:38:43and have really reached out to us

3:38:45expressing their need to really get our projects in the ground.

3:38:48But realizing that they need a little additional time.

3:38:51So, so facilitate these projects moving So the construction

3:38:56phase tonight, we're bringing it to you and amendment

3:39:00to the ordinance and what it will do

3:39:02is it will do three things.

3:39:04It will establish the application process

3:39:06for developer to request a limited extension that must be

3:39:10filed by the city with the city manager

3:39:12by June 30th of twenty twenty one.

3:39:15So unlike last year where was the uniform across the board

3:39:19extension this will be on an application basis

3:39:23if the extension is granted, it will

3:39:26require that building permits be submitted by January 1st.

3:39:29Twenty twenty two and that construction begins by July 1.

3:39:33Twenty twenty two, if any approved

3:39:36projects that are currently exempt

3:39:38receive approved extension and are

3:39:41unable to meet both of those dates,

3:39:44they will be subject to the ordinance.

3:39:46I do want to point out that at this time,

3:39:50we believe that there are up to seven projects that

3:39:53could take advantage of us.

3:39:55But really it's probably likely somewhere between three

3:39:59and five Realistically, I say that because giving them

3:40:03until the end of this year really

3:40:05means that their projects have to be ready.

3:40:07Right here, right now.

3:40:09So with that, it also goes along with the governor's

3:40:13target of open the state back up by June fifteenth.

3:40:17And so staff really does not anticipate bringing anything

3:40:20forward unless something that is completely Annemasse or out

3:40:25of our control happens.

3:40:27So, again, I just want highlight that this is really going

3:40:31to be on an application basis.

3:40:32And this is really intending to help

3:40:34the projects that were already in that

3:40:36are really ready to get going.

3:40:39And moving to the next phase.

3:40:41So that actually includes my staff report

3:40:43and i just want to also let you know that we do have this chart

3:40:47just kind of sequencing what was adopted in twenty eighteen,

3:40:51what was adopted last year.

3:40:53And what we're proposing tonight.

3:40:54And I will be happy to answer any questions.

3:40:57I'm also joined by Melanie Community Development

3:41:00director and Sean Moss, our planning manager

3:41:03Thank you Thank you.

3:41:07And the council question council member, MultiCam Thank you.

3:41:14You, Mayor.

3:41:15I appreciate staff work on this.

3:41:18And I think the sounds very fair And also, I

3:41:23appreciate that there you have to be sort of good standing

3:41:27in order to make this request.

3:41:29Your project can't your property can't be in derelict shape.

3:41:34or anything like that.

3:41:36One thing that I came up while i was reading the materials

3:41:39is the in a couple of places there's a dozen

3:41:43or so you have to have your building permit by January 1st.

3:41:47Twenty twenty two or start construction by July one.

3:41:51Twenty, twenty two.

3:41:52And I think the intent seems to you really

3:41:55have to do both That is not kind of a little loophole

3:41:59to allow people to push it out as close to July 1st

3:42:02as possible.

3:42:03So i would like to hear from Steph what the intent is

3:42:07and if the intent is for both that change the language

3:42:11particularly in the resolution to reflect

3:42:14that we're on page one.

3:42:16Eighty eight of one ninety six in the First,

3:42:19whereas on the top the page, the language January twenty

3:42:24twenty two or July one, twenty twenty two Thank you.

3:42:29Council member Yes.

3:42:31And is our intention as it appears in the ordinance

3:42:34and we will thank you for noticing that

3:42:37on page one eighty.

3:42:39We will replace that with.

3:42:41And so that it does read into the record correctly.

3:42:44And then coincides with the ordinance.

3:42:46So yes, it is both definitely intended to make sure that

3:42:50you're able to both targets Thank you

3:42:57Any other comments questions ? the public

3:43:05is now open at this time.

3:43:07Members of the public who wish to provide public comments,

3:43:10but this item should use their raise to feature to request

3:43:14to speak If you have any winemaker's

3:43:21We do have one request to speak at this time.

3:43:25Up the information on OK so our first speaker is gouty.

3:43:42Howdy You are unmuted and can begin your time now.

3:43:48Thank you.

3:43:49And I'm sorry, Gary.

3:43:51Trudeau.

3:43:52So I think I supportive of this fairly modest extension

3:43:56under the circumstances, but it is very important

3:44:01to reflect on, you know the the continued offering

3:44:09of extensions doesn't really give much sort of you know,

3:44:21attention to producing This is much needed and wanted housing.

3:44:27You all of the Seven projects that were mentioned as being

3:44:34applicable have already gotten their two year extension

3:44:41from the original entitlement, which just points out

3:44:47covid aside, because these delays were

3:44:49going on before even happened.

3:44:53The production of these units is very slow.

3:44:55And if they're not doing with the concern

3:45:01that the might have fall under, they inclusionary

3:45:07ordinance you know, that's the problem really,

3:45:11that I think we need to reflect on.

3:45:13Why things are this slow and why can't we

3:45:18get you projects to happen faster

3:45:23You that's even one of them.

3:45:26Moves ahead because this extension that's great.

3:45:29Especially the one that would be paying into the a million

3:45:32dollars into the you know, low affordable housing fund

3:45:40But I think we do have an issue with timely production

3:45:45of product projects.

3:45:47And we've attracted a lot of applications

3:45:50but not a lot of actual construction in.

3:45:52And I think just structurally, we

3:45:55need to think about how to better align

3:46:00for a different result. Because otherwise, things are rather

3:46:06slow And, as was mentioned, one of the downsides

3:46:11of that slow production is that a lot of these sites

3:46:15have not been particularly good stewards

3:46:17of their under utilized space in the two plus years.

3:46:22They remain vacant And, you know,

3:46:24we really need to do a better job of utilizing

3:46:28that underutilized space and having good maintenance

3:46:31of those spaces.

3:46:34rather than just letting them languish

3:46:36for two years in the hopes that something will eventually

3:46:39be built. So that's that's the face of the city

3:46:42for three plus years.

3:46:46And we really need it to be something more than that.

3:46:50Thank you.

3:46:52Thank you.

3:46:52Thank you.

3:46:53That does conclude.

3:46:54I request to speak on this item.

3:46:57Thank you.

3:46:57And do I have a motion to close a public hearing motion

3:47:02to exclude I heard council member Rudnik First

3:47:07and seconded by Mayor Pro quintel.

3:47:11Can I have a roll please ?

3:47:14And fidele, I am to I and someone

3:47:18Mableton I can't remember Mohtarma

3:47:22I can't remember aPNIC.

3:47:24I can carry.

3:47:26Thank you.

3:47:27And I want to say what I said the first time we delayed this.

3:47:31I don't think this action hopefully the last time

3:47:33but I don't like it undercuts the priority that I

3:47:37in this council have inclusionary

3:47:38zoning and also rido, we've gone through covid

3:47:42This is time to move on.

3:47:43But we still have that as a priority.

3:47:46And do I have a motion to move this item with the amended

3:47:51at the end amove multi yanmei moves this and second from can

3:48:02we have a roll-call vote on this, please ?

3:48:06and correct me thing wrong, but does the motion need to include

3:48:09the person making the motion needs to read the introduction

3:48:14I tell and wait for their reading and the head

3:48:16of the audience OK,

3:48:20I move ordinance one eighty seven

3:48:31so I move the ordinance of the city of Elstree

3:48:34to amending title nineteen of the and useful code sections

3:48:39nineteen point thirty point zero three zero and nineteen point

3:48:43thirty point zero four They're related to inclusionary zoning

3:48:47and a limited extension of exemption

3:48:49is to account for the impacts of the covid-19 pandemic.

3:48:53With the correction whereas the page one and eighty eight

3:48:58to read, whereas the approved extension will expire

3:49:02on January 1st, twenty point two,

3:49:04if a building permit application has not been submitted

3:49:07and July one twenty twenty to twenty

3:49:10twenty two if construction has not commenced Well done.

3:49:15Can I come in and if I may, just one more introduce a title

3:49:19and waive any further reading said ordinance

3:49:22and I waive any further reading of said ordinance

3:49:27that has clarification.

3:49:29Here we have a roll-call vote and I

3:49:32apologize I didn't catch the second

3:49:34on council member Apison.

3:49:37Seconded.

3:49:38Thank you, sir.

3:49:39May your Fidele I may Potemkin I can listen.

3:49:46I and some member Motoman I can remember i

3:49:51mentioned Thank you all.

3:49:54Now we go to section 7 policy matters for our general fund

The fourth hearing amended the inclusionary zoning ordinance: projects exempted from it when it was adopted in 2018 could apply for a limited extension of that exemption.

What the ordinance does: “establish the application process for [a] developer to request a limited extension, [which] must be filed… with the city manager by June 30th of twenty twenty one.”

The contrast with the previous year is the point: “unlike last year, where [it] was [a] uniform across the board extension, this will be on an application basis.”

The conditions attached: if granted, it “will require that building permits be submitted by January 1st, twenty twenty two, and that construction begins by July 1, twenty twenty two.”

Staff expected three to five of up to seven eligible projects to apply. Motoyama asked that the resolution require both dates, not either, and staff agreed. Howdy Goudey supported the modest extension but said the projects had already had extensions and the city attracts applications but little construction. The Mayor said he did not want it to undercut the Council's priority on inclusionary zoning. The ordinance was introduced as corrected.

Significant

The exemption from the 2018 inclusionary ordinance for already-entitled projects shifts from a blanket extension to an application, with building permits by 1 January 2022 and construction by 1 July 2022; projects that miss either date become subject to the ordinance.

33 Three and a half million in property taxes captions 4324–4450

3:49:58budget update for March mARCOSSON

3:50:04Good evening, honorable man.

3:50:05Council members, democracy finance Director and I'm

3:50:10here to share the financial statements through the nine

3:50:15month of the year, which is much twenty twenty

3:50:17one for fiscal 2021.

3:50:20And as usual, I'll be referring to the telling the counter

3:50:25package, starting with page 191 of the council.

3:50:28The package I'm going through the budget income

3:50:32statement, the balance sheet, and the cash flow statement

3:50:35as well.

3:50:37And feel free to interrupt me at any point

3:50:39and continue on the line of statements

3:50:43this and so with nine months of the fiscal year complete, which

3:50:49is 75 percent of the fiscal year complete

3:50:52and these are in broad terms revenues at sixty 8%

3:50:57revenues at sixty 8%.

3:51:00And expenses at seventy 4%.

3:51:05Then let me go ahead and share my screen if you don't mind.

3:51:11There you go.

3:51:14And share and let me make that a little bigger for you.

3:51:27Can you all see that Yes, Great.

3:51:32So we have sixty percent on revenues Thirty eight million

3:51:36is the expected outcome at the end of the fiscal year.

3:51:39We are on the last stretch with about three months ago.

3:51:42April, May and June has already behind us.

3:51:45And this is through March and a big piece of the revenues

3:51:50for April has already arrived, which

3:51:52is the three and a half million FBC

3:51:54up there for property taxes.

3:51:57And you'll notice that we also included

3:52:00the adopted budget for 2010 one for compare for purposes.

3:52:05So total revenues at this point at the end of march

3:52:07was twenty five point twenty six million,

3:52:09approximately and total expense is at this point at March

3:52:15and is twenty seven point six million, which is seventy

3:52:204% of the budget of the projected year end result.

3:52:26Again, on the revenues are pretty much trending according

3:52:29to plan and property transfer taxes jump out

3:52:34as the one signifier in terms of revenue

3:52:36that's been exceeding budget significantly

3:52:39over the last nine months.

3:52:40And we continue to see that in each of the months.

3:52:42And we expect that to continue as well.

3:52:45And the charges for services is drawing

3:52:49closer to its budgeted outcome.

3:52:51The difference between what we brought in so far

3:52:54and the revised budget is drawing closer to a narrower.

3:52:59And we expect to be able to meet those budget targets

3:53:03at the end of the fiscal year.

3:53:05So that's in terms of broader revenue outcomes.

3:53:10On the expense side, the logistics end up

3:53:13is personnel costs, and that, too, is trending

3:53:16quite close to expectations.

3:53:18With annual payments being made in January,

3:53:22which will ironed out as the year progresses.

3:53:26And we draw closer to the mid-year budget prediction

3:53:29for the fiscal as we get them so that is also trending fairly

3:53:34well The other components of expenses within the seventy

3:53:38five percent by and large, and we expect to see that continue

3:53:41as well And so that is in broad terms,

3:53:45the revenue and expenditure picture that we see from

3:53:51the end of March looking out towards April,

3:53:54May and june and if i might just jump down to the balance sheet

3:54:04quickly here So the balance sheet as I always say,

3:54:11shows us the a snapshot of assets and line liabilities

3:54:17at the end of March.

3:54:18In this case and we'll notice that we have a total of eight

3:54:22million dollars in assets and ten point $5 billion

3:54:26in liabilities That is the amounts generally owed

3:54:29the amounts that we own at this point.

3:54:31be able to pay that off which showed a difference of two

3:54:35point $5 million at the end of March

3:54:40keeping mind that these are a number that fluctuates back

3:54:43in November this number was a negative six million dollars

3:54:47and as the year progresses, we bring in more

3:54:50revenues and eventually this number people out

3:54:54and get closer The six thousand thirty three thousand

3:54:57we see as the budget surplus at the end of the fiscal year.

3:55:04On the liability side, we have the big item here,

3:55:07which is the short term note to be paid off at the end

3:55:09of june or early July.

3:55:12And the cash position here will improve substantially in April

3:55:17because we've just received three and a half

3:55:19million in property taxes.

3:55:21So this number has increased substantially

3:55:24in the last couple weeks.

3:55:29So that's where we are on the balance Again,

3:55:32this is the amount that is the difference

3:55:34between the total assets and the amounts

3:55:37that we all at this point in time So as revenues

3:55:41keep coming in the total asset to keep going up some of it

3:55:44will be spent as expenditures and the net differential go

3:55:48towards reducing this deficit.

3:55:50that we see here.

3:55:51And at some point in all the revenues that come in,

3:55:54and the expenses have been paid out, that net before We

3:55:57have completely defused this to the point where this would be

3:56:00a positive, excellent thirty two thousand,

3:56:02which is the fund balance that we expect

3:56:04to see at that point in time.

3:56:08The Quran, as always is only a mechanism

3:56:11that helps us manage our cash flows up to ups

3:56:15and downs in our cash flow.

3:56:16It's not a substitute for any revenues that might not come in

3:56:21because it needs to be fully repaid

3:56:24So it is just that temporary line of credit.

3:56:28And that will be used as long as we have access to it

3:56:32throughout the month of june.

3:56:34So that's the focus of the Quran.

3:56:36Again, to remind you that the Quran is about eight

3:56:38point five million.

3:56:40And we brought in eight point six million.

3:56:42We will probably pay this whole thing off.

3:56:44Plus interest of about eight point seventy five.

3:56:47So the difference is about ninety six thousand dollars

3:56:50The extra cost that we would have to book at the end of June

3:56:54to bring this up to 8 points.

3:56:55So five prior to paying it off So that will be done as part

3:56:59of the accounting at the end of that winding and then moving

3:57:05down to the cash forecast for the fiscal year these out

3:57:13of the so the Charlotte region reflects everything

3:57:19that's happened in the past in terms of cash

3:57:21and the Unshattered portion reflects

3:57:23the expectations for the next few months,

3:57:26primarily April, May and june.

3:57:29We also have the media projected budget

The March general fund update showed the cash position improving sharply.

The projection: $633,000 as “the budget surplus at the end of the fiscal year.”

On the liability side: “the big item here, which is the short term note, to be paid off at the end of June or early July.”

And the reason the balance sheet had moved: “the cash position here will improve substantially in April, because we've just received three and a half million in property taxes.”

The finance director described the short-term note as “only a mechanism that helps us manage our cash flows,” not a substitute for revenue. It was $8.5 million; the city received $8.6 million and would repay about $8.75 million, and the next note was scheduled for around 10 July.

So “this number has increased substantially in the last couple weeks.”

The April report a month later shows the fund balance positive “for the first time ever.”

Significant

A $3.5 million property tax installment arrives in April and improves the cash position. The April report shows a positive fund balance “for the first time ever” in this finance director's reporting.

34 Net change, not total captions 4451–4720

3:57:31as the last column on these cash flows the 3 point

3:57:38four that we see here has already been received So

3:57:41when we presented the results we will see that as part

3:57:44of the Shatrova budget for April,

3:57:47we will certainly see the reimbursements for the fire

3:57:52or yes, over time, significantly the amount

3:57:56that we initially had was about a million and one on fifty

3:58:01down here we received almost 800 and some dollars

3:58:07And the balance that we expect to have received

3:58:09are receiving about fifty three thousand

3:58:12So that would come in as well.

3:58:14So that thing has largely come in for the last few months.

3:58:19Our recreation department revenues

3:58:21have been called out separately because of the sensitive nature

3:58:24of the programs to what's happening out there.

3:58:31And we find that the numbers that we show here very

3:58:35attainable and have been obtained so far as

3:58:39predicted in the past.

3:58:40Nine months.

3:58:41So we expect to be able to make these

3:58:42numbers through twenty to june 30th of this fiscal year.

3:58:51I have shown that real property transferred taxes to 110000

3:58:57but it's been averaging around three thousand

3:59:00over the previous nine months.

3:59:01And we've considered conservatively estimated

3:59:04at heart and ten thousand.

3:59:05So as to show the budget expecting another three

3:59:08million, the actual numbers might

3:59:10be signify different, higher than these

3:59:14but those will be updated as they come in.

3:59:16And we haven't got the numbers yet.

3:59:17For April.

3:59:18So once that does come, these numbers will also

3:59:20be uplifted by that amount.

3:59:24And then down here, we have the expected cash

3:59:28balance at the end of June.

3:59:30Which is nine point $6 and that would

3:59:34be used to pay back trend.

3:59:36And they would also expect to make 632 six hundred thirty

3:59:39three thousand based on current numbers as the contribution

3:59:43towards fund balance And this number

3:59:45will show up on our balance sheet at the end of june 30th.

3:59:51And with that, I would conclude my remarks

3:59:54and then take any questions that you might have for us.

3:59:57For me, yes, questions from Mark.

4:00:03Have a question Council member, Avildsen Yeah,

4:00:08Speaking of the trend so we're going to get back.

4:00:14So i think June or early July is that correct ?

4:00:18That's correct.

4:00:20Then when we have to get another one,

4:00:21if we are if we have a need to do that, attentively,

4:00:26scheduling the second round of the upcoming issuance to be

4:00:30in the second week of July some somewhere on the 10th july

4:00:34to pick that up So we've already applied for we're working on it

4:00:40right now, even as we speak.

4:00:42OK, yep.

4:00:43This is early May.

4:00:45Yes.

4:00:47Thank you.

4:00:49Yeah.

4:00:50For ten Thank you.

4:00:53Mark, very much.

4:00:54Appreciate this presentation.

4:00:57You know, my question is, I thought that our brand would be

4:01:01a lot less, but it is up there once again

4:01:07and i thought it was going to be down to seven.

4:01:13So you're saying it's going to be closer to nine ?

4:01:17Is that correct ?

4:01:18No, that is not correct, because Yes, let me explain

4:01:22because the cash flow statement they're looking at

4:01:25is through June 30th.

4:01:27And the new trend comes in in July.

4:01:29So that's not reflected in this document.

4:01:31OK, all right.

4:01:33Thank you.

4:01:36Other questions or comments, Countermovement yaama inkerman

4:01:45So I have a question for Mark.

4:01:47So I appreciate the new formatting

4:01:50of the annualise budget I think that's really

4:01:55helpful to see that adopted budget in there

4:01:59in the full year.

4:02:00And I've been able to look at it and see a little bit better how

4:02:04the annualized budget matches with the projected

4:02:09general fund cash was on a month, month basis

4:02:12So that was really helpful.

4:02:14I do have a question about the fund balance.

4:02:18And could you tell me what exactly the fund balance

4:02:22tells us The negative I can't reconcile

4:02:27it back to the analyst.

4:02:30General fund revenues and expenditures because that looks

4:02:32like there's a two point nine negative balance and, you know

4:02:40i know that you are saying that this

4:02:42will go away Which document are you referring here ?

4:02:46The balance sheet, the fund balance,

4:02:48the negative 2 point four two million for seventy

4:02:53nine ninety five.

4:02:54So if you could help me understand that negative fund

4:03:01balance, what exactly it tells us Thank you for your question.

4:03:06Remember, so the first thing to note

4:03:08is that these are two different types of accounting statements.

4:03:11One is a profit and statement or an income statement,

4:03:16it simply compares revenues vs. expense

4:03:20during the current fiscal year, so the two

4:03:22point line that you see here is the net change

4:03:25fund balance as mark.

4:03:28Mark, can you point to that ?

4:03:29Possibly, yes.

4:03:31I'm looking at the budgeted income statement

4:03:33here with the bottom line number of two point ninety $5 million

4:03:38which is a comparison of expenses and revenues.

4:03:42The difference between the two is about these projects.

4:03:45Now, the balance you see on the balance sheet

4:03:49is a different type of number because that takes into account

4:03:54what we call the timing of some of these things for example,

4:03:59everything down here is a payable

4:04:02but money has not been spent on paying that off.

4:04:06That's what we call it, a payable and everything up here

4:04:09is cash in hand and the receivable.

4:04:12Some of these mountains are not coming at all.

4:04:14But the income statement simply assume

4:04:17that everything is coming and everything has been paid out.

4:04:21So it's to that mix in comparing apples and apples, oranges,

4:04:24and oranges.

4:04:25And that's exactly i see that if we wait till June 30th that's

4:04:28when all the revenues come in and all

4:04:31your expenses have been paid.

4:04:32This bottom line number that we see here, the two point four

4:04:35and the six thirty three should be

4:04:38identical because all the timing effects have been taken out of.

4:04:42The accruals have been done.

4:04:44Monies that coming after june 30th would have been booked

4:04:47back And so this document would then truly reflect

4:04:51what's actually happened on the income

4:04:53statement and therefore the income

4:04:55statement would be this no.

4:04:57So that's where they converge But up until that point,

4:05:00this is just a snapshot in time.

4:05:04And so that's important to keep that in mind.

4:05:05And I mean that's a great question, because these are

4:05:08the nuances of account that the challenge even people that have

4:05:13done the counting as part of their career

4:05:20So is your question Yes.

4:05:23So just to make sure.

4:05:25So that two million four seventy nine

4:05:28gets washed out by additional revenue

4:05:31that would be coming in.

4:05:32So that on June 30th, the revenues

4:05:37would be ten point five and the liability

4:05:39would be ten point five.

4:05:40Is that so happens Yeah.

4:05:45Let me just show you what I mean.

4:05:46By what I just said.

4:05:47So let's take the income statement here.

4:05:50And I'm looking at three $5 million

4:05:53in cash revenue that we've had against a budget of thirty.

4:05:57So we are really on thirteen million dollars of revenue

4:06:00to show up right Essentially between April and June

4:06:03And I'm on this side.

4:06:05We've spent twenty seven point experience on expenses

4:06:08against a budget that's about nine

4:06:10to ten million dollars in future expenses that need to happen So

4:06:14if you take the thirteen million here and take out that nine

4:06:18million, which is about three and a half million dollars,

4:06:21roughly, which is your net increase

4:06:24and throw it on top of this negative number that you see,

4:06:26because that is the amount that reduces it by you

4:06:29would end up with a positive Excellent.

4:06:31Thirty two thousand.

4:06:32So that's another way of looking at it as well.

4:06:34That future revenue minus future expenses is your net.

4:06:37Save and that savings should reduce

4:06:40this negative because that's the one

4:06:42that goes towards the bottom.

4:06:44The future revenue will automatically

4:06:45come into this top line item, which is cash, obviously,

4:06:49and huge expenses would take place in,

4:06:52you know, and some of these would be payable at some point.

4:06:55But most of those expenses have been paid out.

4:06:57So what's left is the six hundred

4:07:00and thirty thousand that I just mentioned

4:07:02previously to another.

4:07:03We are looking oK.

4:07:05And so as we are moving forward when that number two is

4:07:10positive and it grows that is where

4:07:12we can find where our position is vis a vis our reserves.

4:07:17Right That is the six and thirty thousand that

4:07:21comes in at the end is our fund reserve

4:07:26goes positive by six hundred and thirty three thousand dollars.

4:07:30So if we are if we are the public

4:07:32we're trying to track the how our fund reserve is doing

4:07:36We can look at either the fund balance in the balance

4:07:39sheet or that net change at the end

4:07:42of the year on the general fund revenues and expenditures.

4:07:45Is that correct ?

4:07:47That is correct.

4:07:47So at the end of the fiscal year,

4:07:49you would look at the income statement, which tells you

4:07:52how much fun balance changed by and then you would look

4:07:56at the balance sheet for this number here

4:07:58and that change being added to the previous balance

4:08:01should be the true fund balance at that point in time.

4:08:05So one is an increased change in fund balance The other one

4:08:08is the final fund balance.

4:08:13Before we go to other members who have questions,

4:08:16and I do as well can we please have a motion for an extension

4:08:19for fifteen minutes ?

4:08:20I'd like to move that more time I got and seconded

4:08:27by council member Wilson.

4:08:28Thank you Lisa Mohtarma Are you done with your questioning ?

4:08:32I do need to take care.

4:08:35Vote on that motion.

4:08:37I'm not sure we do.

4:08:39Oh, OK.

4:08:41Can we have a vote, please ?

4:08:43May I Fidele I may have Potemkin to I

4:08:47can't remember Abels I can remember Tamma.

4:08:51I can't remember redneck.

4:08:53I rasheen Keri's council member Motorama finished.

4:08:58I just have one question Follow up question

4:09:01Just so the six hundred and thirty three thousand comes in.

4:09:05And that is at the end of the year.

4:09:07That is our positive fund balance But do we deduct

4:09:11the one ten thousand from the previous year

4:09:13Is that what you're saying ?

4:09:15I just because you will note that this

4:09:18line is net change in fund balance,

4:09:21right ? so the net change is.

4:09:24But it adds to existing balance or takes

4:09:27away from existing balance.

4:09:28So whatever 632 thousand comes in.

4:09:31And then that gets reduced by the negative ten thousand

4:09:35that we are bringing forward and therefore,

4:09:37that becomes net fund balance.

4:09:39So our reserve balance would then be five and twenty

4:09:45thousand That is correct.

4:09:47The OK, thank you very much.

4:09:51Sure.

4:09:52Council member Redneck's thank you.

4:09:59Director ASI my I actually don't remember

4:10:04offhand what is our interest rate that we're paying

4:10:07on the loan The nominal interest rate on the loan

4:10:11is three percent That's the coupon rate

4:10:16So eight point seventy five includes the interest

4:10:20rate That is correct.

4:10:24As of because I know we've had back and forth that it will be

4:10:27really helpful for me is to once trend is paid off under Stan,

4:10:34how much it cost for us to use the tranh whether it's

4:10:39in a memo form or whatever way to deliver that information

4:10:43to council would be helpful.

4:10:44So that we have a sense of how much

4:10:47it costs for us to continue to utilize the Tran loans.

4:10:51Absolutely.

4:10:55And Mayor Pro, have you had your hand up here ?

4:11:01All right.

4:11:02OK, any other So if no one else, I'll ask a couple of questions.

4:11:09So Mark, on number 4, on our analysis

4:11:13which says We're recognizing the time and revenue sources,

4:11:17revenues are nine nine forty four thousand

4:11:21over budget and expenses were three and 7 under budget.

4:11:25Can you just talk a little bit about to us.

4:11:29So that that that feels good.

4:11:32But tell us really means and so one of the things we put

4:11:38into this document when we first started up was to in addition

4:11:42to having the budgeted numbers and the differences,

4:11:45the variances and the percentages council at that

4:11:49point wanted me to come back with, OK, what are you expect

4:11:53at each of these points ?

4:11:54in time recognizing all of the other variables that

4:11:58exist in the background, such as stimming differences

4:12:01or cash flow variation so they are accountable to us do that.

Motoyama asked what the fund balance figures mean.

The question: whether the $633,000 at year end means a positive fund balance of that amount, or whether “we deduct the” prior year's negative from it.

The answer: “this line is net change in fund balance.”

So it “adds to [the] existing balance or takes away from [the] existing balance.”

The arithmetic: the $633,000 “gets reduced by the negative” carried forward, “and therefore that becomes net fund balance” — about $520,000.

A year's surplus is not the reserve; it is what the reserve moves by.

Two further questions closed the item.

Rudnick, told the note's coupon rate was 3%, asked for the cost of the borrowing to be tracked: “so that we have a sense of how much it costs for us to continue to utilize the [note].”

The Mayor asked about a line showing revenues “over budget” and expenses “under budget” — which “feels good, but tell us [what it] really means.”

The answer describes a reporting change the Council itself had asked for: beyond “the budgeted numbers and the differences, the variances and the percentages,” the Council had wanted staff to state “what are you expect[ing] at each of these points in time.”

The reason: to account for “all of the other variables that exist in the background, such as timing differences or cash flow variation.”

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The $633,000 is a net change, not a balance: added to the negative balance carried forward, it leaves a reserve of about $520,000, staff confirmed. The roughly $525,000 net is reported in June.

35 The expected column captions 4721–4937

4:12:04And so that's the shedid column.

4:12:06That you see here.

4:12:07So that reflects what we thought should be getting

4:12:10our bringing up at that point.

4:12:12So just as an example, if I take the transfer tax line

4:12:15as an example, we expected that at the rate of earning two

4:12:20point six million dollars over twelvemonth,

4:12:23we should have had nineteen fifty by the end of March

4:12:27but we actually brought in twenty six seventy

4:12:28So that's the expectation exceeding by 720.

4:12:32So that column toward Lizzio hundred

4:12:34forty four for every single line item.

4:12:38My question is this indicator to you of what's ahead for us

4:12:42or is it still pretty.

4:12:45What is this.

4:12:46Is it alerts us to things that are not tracking according

4:12:49to plan or not keeping in line with what

4:12:53we've done in the past.

4:12:54That's essentially what it tells us.

4:12:56So in the past, if certain things, for example, property

4:12:59taxes, you know, for a fact, nothing

4:13:00happened in the month of March.

4:13:02And so therefore, the expectation for March is zero.

4:13:05So if something had come in that would tell us what's going on.

4:13:09On the other hand, if something was not to come in in April,

4:13:12have to tell us that money has come through.

4:13:15So, again, it sort of it's a trigger.

4:13:17It's a different kind of thing that

4:13:18would permit us to pull things out, and see what's going on.

4:13:22And from our indication what's ahead in your mind,

4:13:26is Ontari So at this point in time, in just three months,

4:13:30essentially two months left.

4:13:32I think you comfortably hit this number that you see down here,

4:13:35which is thirty eight million dollars to your question,

4:13:39what is on the farb agenda for next time ?

4:13:44the fab agenda has grown significantly

4:13:47over the last couple of months.

4:13:48And we have, I think, five or six different items on it.

4:13:53I generally check with the Fed chair who come up

4:13:56with the final agenda And at this point in time,

4:13:59we are looking at about four import components

4:14:02on this Faberge and one is the fab workplan The next one is

4:14:06the company into financial policy

4:14:09The third one is the investment policy.

4:14:12And that was also a request from one Fed member

4:14:15to bring excel spreadsheets to the fab meeting.

4:14:20And the Fed would think would discuss

4:14:23the need for doing that.

4:14:25So that becomes an agenda item as well.

4:14:29And I could go on as an investment policy that needs

4:14:31to be reviewed by the Fed.

4:14:32So that gets to the agenda that would

4:14:34put these financial statements on the agenda as well.

4:14:37And at the meeting, the chair would decide which

4:14:39of these items would feature in the Fed

4:14:41discussion in the limited time that we have.

4:14:43So that's typically what we his organization itself.

4:14:47One of the agenda items at this point,

4:14:52it is not an item on the Fed agenda at this stage

4:14:55because I think the Fed is at this point

4:14:57that that was an item for city council

4:15:00to decide as opposed to the Fed having

4:15:02to decide what the organization should look like.

4:15:06So we have to start that.

4:15:08Yes, final question now that we're on the road to responding

4:15:16in an active way to the auditors report,

4:15:19how do you think all the recommendations just

4:15:22your thoughts, your views, will impact our budget in the new

4:15:28fiscal year going forward ? well in broad terms,

4:15:35if you break the recommendations out, I would

4:15:38look at it from two one three.

4:15:39One is just in terms of timing alone,

4:15:43there are short term recommendations, longer term

4:15:46recommendations the ones that are exceptionally short term,

4:15:48such as improving the forecasting,

4:15:51improving the reporting side of things,

4:15:53improving the budget process that these have

4:15:55already started working on.

4:15:56And so that's happening right now.

4:15:59And it's been falling into the budget process.

4:16:01But the longer term recommendation

4:16:03such as structural changes, cost reductions, revenue increases

4:16:08will take care. number of rounds of Nikko's relations

4:16:12and discussions before they can be put into the budget process

4:16:15so that perhaps the next couple of years, at least before we

4:16:19finally get them to be So that's just my initial take on this.

4:16:23Your view that a combination of things over long term period

4:16:28that will get us back on track.

4:16:30It's not two or three things that will benefit us next year.

4:16:35Certainly.

4:16:36Certainly I mean, that's been our conclusion in response

4:16:39to the state.

4:16:40I with almost all of the recommendations except maybe

4:16:43one or two and B, as a team felt that the combination of these

4:16:48would actually help strengthen the financial reporting side.

4:16:52Thank you.

4:16:53Any of the comments mother, council members

4:16:56questions Thank you, Mark.

4:17:00Thank you.

4:17:02We move now to number eight.

4:17:03We've got about five minutes, if I may.

4:17:08We don't need to take public comment on this item.

4:17:10Oh, OK.

4:17:15Remember, that the public on the call,

4:17:16if you wish to speak on this item,

4:17:18now would be the time to raise your hands

4:17:21And we'll just take a quick moment to report

4:17:24that Britain comments on this item we received

4:17:26in advance of the meeting.

4:17:27And we're posted with our supplementary materials

4:17:30online from Irish now and at this time,

4:17:35I see we only have one request to speak at this time.

4:17:38So proceed Nursing student needs.

4:17:41You should be unmuted can begin your time now.

4:17:45Thank you very much.

4:17:47I'm frustrated that once again, this discussion is happening

4:17:50after the eleven o'clock hour in three different prior meetings

4:17:54I've heard the council, including the mayor,

4:17:56say that this would not happen.

4:17:57And it happened yet again.

4:17:59And this has to stop if the budget doesn't

4:18:02get under control, it doesn't really

4:18:03matter about anything else.

4:18:04You've got to get the budget under control

4:18:06and other people need to hear it Destocking

4:18:10and indicate that they are draft general fund,

4:18:12income statement, balance sheet and cash flow documents.

4:18:15Are there other revenues and expenses

4:18:17which are not accounted for on these document

4:18:21If so, where are those monies reported

4:18:25It's an important question Another one

4:18:28is what's the likelihood of meeting

4:18:30a projected income statement Income and expenses,

4:18:35cash flow is critical.

4:18:36And probably more critical right now than balance sheet and and

4:18:40the income statement and even though our city finance

4:18:42director says that these three documents are nuances

4:18:45of accounting, they are required by FASB, which

4:18:48is the federal Accounting Standards Board, which

4:18:50covers municipal realities.

4:18:52These are requirements of law.

4:18:54These are not suggestions.

4:18:56Cash right now.

4:18:58And the timing differences are critical.

4:19:00And the city is particularly to a city with minimal resources

4:19:04Where are the potential problems How far off can

4:19:08can the cash or the expense be before

4:19:11it poses a critical problem ?

4:19:13And especially requiring a new tranh

4:19:16These are questions that we need to have discussed,

4:19:18and they're not even being raised.

4:19:20Where are the unfunded pension liabilities

4:19:22They are missing completely from these documents.

4:19:25And again, Farzaneh requires that these be shown.

4:19:28So where are they ?

4:19:29And they need to be shown.

4:19:31I've already called for the resignation or the termination

4:19:34of our city, our city finance director,

4:19:36because I believe that the accounting policies

4:19:39and practices and procedures are not being followed correctly

4:19:42are outside.

4:19:43Auditor said the same thing.

4:19:44And this needs to get under control.

4:19:46I have zero confidence in what he's presenting to you

4:19:49and you should have no confidence in these documents

4:19:51either.

4:19:52This is unaccept tibble.

4:19:53Thank you.

4:19:54You Thank you, Mayor.

4:19:57That does conclude a request to speak on this item.

4:20:00Thank you.

4:20:03We move on to item number eight City Council

4:20:07local and regional leaders on assignments and their reports

4:20:10If there are any do I hear any Yes.

4:20:15Council member Rudbeck i wanted to update my fellow council

4:20:20members on recycle more which for the folks who are still

4:20:24tuning in, it's also noted the mayor, which is our West County

4:20:28waste management or authority.

4:20:31So it's recycling hazardous waste.

4:20:34There has been an interesting development with it.

4:20:38There's sB thirteen eighty three which is a requirement

4:20:42to separate out organ X from the waste A component of it

4:20:47is reporting to the I'll try to keep a very long story,

4:20:52very short The short story is that Republic, which

4:20:56is the horler for all of the other members in our GPA

4:21:01went into a unilateral agreement with a vendor

4:21:04for doing the report And Cerita we are still waiting for ah,

4:21:12our turn to get to have a a contract

4:21:18past eleven to my brains of to have a contract to be

4:21:21able to engage with vendor for report

4:21:25getting our own organic's waste to the state.

4:21:29There's a lot of moving parts, but I

4:21:32do think it's important that my fellow council

4:21:34members are aware that because we need very quickly spin up.

4:21:39And I know that our public works director and baldor city

4:21:45manager is connected to this discussion

4:21:50that we are at risk of being very late in the game

4:21:56because unfortunate forces that are out of our control.

4:22:00But we are working to get it back on Thank you for that.

4:22:06I think anyone have original report I have a report

4:22:14from the Parks and Rec commission

4:22:18that they have voted unanimously to change the tennis

4:22:23courts at Castro to pickleball.

4:22:27But there's a lot of retrofitting

4:22:29and a lot of modification that has to happen.

4:22:32Soundproofing before it moves forward.

4:22:36And we may or may not hear about But they were unanimous

4:22:39And that will be a change in a new activity here in El Sereno.

4:22:44It goes forward Any other any the other comments

4:22:48before we close out if not, then I have

4:22:52to I want to adjourn in memory.

4:22:55No, One last last time I meant to do this in honor.

4:22:59Of George Floyd.

4:23:00And I also want to adjourn it on our chat tonight.

4:23:04Thank you.

4:23:06You all very much and long night Thank you.

4:23:09Thank you.

The finance director explained a column the Council had asked him to add.

What it holds: “what we thought [we] should be… bringing in at that point” in the year, rather than only the annual budget and the actual.

His worked example: on transfer tax, “at the rate of earning two point six million dollars over twelve months, we should have had” about $1.95 million “by the end of March. But we actually brought in” $2.67 million — “exceeding by 720” thousand.

The Mayor asked what the column is for: “is this an indicator to you of what's ahead for us?”

The answer: “it alerts us to things that are not tracking according to plan, or not keeping in line with what we've done in the past.”

His illustration is about absence rather than presence: for property taxes, “nothing happen[s] in the month of March, and so therefore the expectation for March is zero. So if something had come in, that would tell us what's going on.”

And the reverse: “if something was not to come in in April,” that would flag that expected money had not arrived.

His description of its function: “it's a trigger… that would permit us to pull things out and see what's going on.”

Asked how the audit recommendations would affect the budget, he said short-term ones — forecasting, reporting, the budget process — were already under way, while structural changes, cost reductions and revenue increases would take a couple of years. A speaker objected that the item came after 11 p.m. again, asked where pension liabilities appear, and repeated her call for the finance director's removal. Rudnick reported that RecycleMore's hauler had made a separate agreement for SB 1383 reporting, leaving El Cerrito at risk of being late; the Parks and Recreation Commission had voted to convert the Castro tennis courts to pickleball. The meeting adjourned in memory of George Floyd and of Chet.

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The finance director describes the expected-to-date column the Council asked for as “a trigger” that flags money not tracking to plan. He says the short-term audit recommendations were already being put into practice.