Contents
16 sections- 01Four hundred and forty-two casesS
- 02Three thousand six hundred and forty-three callsS
- 03Seventeen consent itemsN
- 04The workshop that didn't happenS
- 05What the community said, and the top employersS
- 06Cutting the cordS
- 07Nothing from the relief fundS
- 08No reserve to weather itS
- 09Shift the cost to who is assessedS
- 10Chapter 9S
- 11If the note doesn't come throughS
- 12Seven hundred and fifty thousand in concessionsS
- 13Who already pays moreS
- 14Near term and longer horizonS
- 15Short-sightedS
- 16“They're not giving us choices”S
01 Four hundred and forty-two cases captions 1–366
0:14:13OK.
0:14:14This is Mayor Lyman and I'm going to call this meeting
0:14:16to order and it is 7 o'clock.
0:14:20Can the city clerk please call the roll Thank you Mayor.
0:14:26And the layman doesn't may pretend FDLE was
0:14:35a rooster at night on the moon.
0:14:40Freedom fidelity and Care Council member Abel sin.
0:14:46Yeah council member Part 2.
0:14:49Cuban President council member King TOBY Yeah.
0:14:57We have a quarantine.
0:15:01Excellent at this point we will move on
0:15:05to item 1 which is teleconference and public
0:15:09comment instructions.
0:15:13Thank you Major.
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0:17:30meeting following the meeting.
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0:17:37with an orange with green lime with the lemon put it
0:17:41in a plastic bag put the figure of explain
0:17:49how much other people are on.
0:17:53I don't want to be silent.
0:17:57Thank you.
0:17:58Following the meeting all comments read into the record
0:18:01will be posted online with supplemental materials
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0:18:06This concludes my instructions.
0:18:08A mere layman.
0:18:09We are ready to move on to the next item on the agenda.
0:18:12I'm just checking to make sure we don't have any questions
0:18:16and we do not.
0:18:17So we we're ready to move on to the next item So
0:18:24that brings us to item 2 wood which is
0:18:27council staff communications.
0:18:32I'm going to ask if there are any staff communications I have
0:18:40none at this time Your Honor.
0:18:41Thank you.
0:18:44All right.
0:18:44I'm going to now go to the city council members.
0:18:52Miss Puerto Okamoto Hi.
0:18:55Yes.
0:18:57Can you hear me.
0:18:58Yes.
0:19:00OK.
0:19:01So today there was a town hall organized by Supervisor John
0:19:06Joya and assembly member Buffy Wicks as well as other county
0:19:12health officials to update us on our cove at 19 situation
0:19:17here in the county.
0:19:18The big takeaway from the meeting
0:19:21is there is a Web site with much of the information in which
0:19:25they shared and that is Contra Costa Health dot org You can
0:19:32also go to C.C. health dot org I tried both and both lead you
0:19:37eventually to the same information the Web
0:19:41site provides information statistics prevention
0:19:46what to do if you're sick.
0:19:48Health services updates it was very informative today.
0:19:53They were letting us know exactly where we're standing
0:19:56right now in the county.
0:19:59And if you go to this Web site you'll be able to see
0:20:01much of this information.
0:20:03And it's updated frequently.
0:20:06So today this afternoon I checked the latest statistics
0:20:10and the total cases of Kobe 19 in Contra Costa County
0:20:15are four hundred and forty two the total amount
0:20:19of people tested are five thousand eight hundred
0:20:22and thirty one the total in hospital in the county
0:20:27are twenty nine and deaths are at seven if you click
0:20:32on the dashboard you can see a city specific statistics it's
0:20:37very interesting for the city of El Serino
0:20:40as of today we have five cases in which I'm glad to say
0:20:46if there's any good news it's you know we're always
0:20:49searching for good news in what seems like dark days right now.
0:20:52The city of El Serino had the least amount of cases
0:20:55per capita in the county.
0:20:58So whatever we're doing out there I would say keep it up.
0:21:03Hopefully our statistics remain this good relative
0:21:07to the rest of the County and relative
0:21:09to the rest of the country.
0:21:11We are doing our part in flattening the curve in trying
0:21:16to make sure that we don't overwhelm our health care
0:21:20system here in the county as well as here in the state
0:21:23of California and beyond.
0:21:26The county has one thousand one hundred
0:21:30and seventy one hospital beds and they are in the process
0:21:34of acquiring another a little over another thousand
0:21:38hospital beds for a total of twenty two
0:21:41hundred surge capacity.
0:21:43As you may have seen in the paper.
0:21:45Two hundred fifty beds have been set up at the crane way
0:21:49pavilion county officials also wanted to remind us
0:21:54that during this unprecedented situation
0:21:58there is no proven effective medication
0:22:02and there is still no vaccine This
0:22:05is why the County ordered the stay at home order
0:22:08on March 16th.
0:22:10It wanted to remind us to stay home social distance
0:22:14and we will slow the spread Last week
0:22:19there was an update to the order which said that now in addition
0:22:23to those things that we've been talking about before we'd also
0:22:27like everyone when they go outside to please cover
0:22:30their face I think there was a little confusion about this
0:22:33initially because we did want to save in ninety fives.
0:22:38Though the high filter kinds of face mask for health
0:22:43care professionals as there is a shortage nationwide.
0:22:48But studies have shown that in countries where
0:22:50they cover their faces in public they
0:22:53have slowed the transmission.
0:22:55And so we are now asking that everyone goes outside
0:22:59particularly if you're going to be
0:23:02something like at the grocery store or at work
0:23:04that you cover your face.
0:23:07That doesn't mean you need an ninety five.
0:23:09There are made masks that you can find how to make
0:23:14or various things like that sort.
0:23:18Health care officials also discussed
0:23:23that what a common presentation of the virus
0:23:28would look like which I was pretty curious about.
0:23:33About a week from exposure it often takes time for people
0:23:37to develop symptoms.
0:23:38So about a week.
0:23:40That is why covering your face is still important.
0:23:43If you're not showing symptoms because it's during that week
0:23:47period of time where you could be out spreading the virus
0:23:50and then it takes about another week
0:23:52after you're showing symptoms for you
0:23:55to actually require hospitalization
0:23:57If you're going to need hospitalization and then people
0:24:01that require hospitalization may need to remain in the hospital
0:24:05for weeks at a time.
0:24:07So once again that's why it's so important for everyone
0:24:10to Latin the curve and prevent this surge
0:24:15from being out of control.
0:24:17We want to make sure that if you do get sick there will be
0:24:21hospital care available for you at according to health care
0:24:27officials we have not yet hit our surge here in the county
0:24:31or in the state of California.
0:24:33The prediction is that the last part of April
0:24:36or the beginning part of May will be when we hit our peak
0:24:40and so we're just trying to really hang in there
0:24:42and make sure that we keep our hospital
0:24:45resources available for the public Lastly
0:24:50here if you are as senior that or a person
0:24:55with other high risk category at we just want to reiterate
0:25:00please do not go out to find someone
0:25:03to run your errands for you.
0:25:05It's imperative that during this time in particular
0:25:08that you do not get sick.
0:25:11Finally I'll close with if you have
0:25:14in 90 fives or other health care worker items.
0:25:21My sister actually happens to have some bunny suits
0:25:24you know things like that.
0:25:25If you have things you could donate to the hospital that can
0:25:28help help our health care workers at this time
0:25:31You can also find where to donate those at CDC Health
0:25:35dot org and click on corona virus and assembly member Wicks
0:25:39also shared that you can if you have somehow knowledge of how
0:25:44to get a larger amount of supplies
0:25:46to donate coded 19 supplies see a GOP there's
0:25:53a statewide supply donation that they're collecting as well.
0:25:56And with that all in my report.
0:25:57Thank you Yes.
0:26:02Council member Ableton do it this time was would
0:26:07be the comment I received a copy of the newsletter
0:26:11from the Alfredo chamber of commerce
0:26:14and it was listing a list which I'm
0:26:17sure is available on their Web site of all of the places that
0:26:20will deliver food to to a home.
0:26:25So if people are and thinking particularly
0:26:28of seniors and other others who shouldn't be going out
0:26:34or can't get out they can look on that list.
0:26:39You know the Chamber of Commerce for all three of its Web site
0:26:43and see a list of places that will deliver meals Thank you.
0:26:50Great thank you.
0:26:51Council member Quito Thank you Mayor.
0:26:56Good evening everyone.
0:26:58I wanted to report that Clay was on a call with my colleagues
0:27:06of the fundamental policy meeting last Friday
0:27:11and there were about 50 people that attended that meeting
0:27:17and basically what's going on in Sacramento regarding bills
0:27:26is that basically we're going to have very bare bones
0:27:31year dealing with legislation this changes all
0:27:37of the plans that are covered because it
0:27:40said we have to get change.
0:27:45A lot of the bills we were going to put through and many of them
0:27:52will not be put through because of the cost.
0:27:56So there are a few bills that we'll
0:28:01be looking closely at on the environmental side
0:28:06and what I'll do.
0:28:08I will give staff the numbers at the Dells
0:28:14and perhaps we can post that on the city website later.
0:28:19But I wanted to let everyone know
0:28:23I've been getting phone calls and lots of e-mails today.
0:28:28So no I just wanted to let residents in Nelson
0:28:32read them know that I received all your e-mails.
0:28:35And Dan are the folks that called Day received
0:28:38your phone messages as well.
0:28:41And I'm sure my colleagues have had as well so.
0:28:46But again thank you.
0:28:48And I want to just say because of John Joyner Supervisor John
0:28:54joy and our supervisors in Contra Costa great president
0:28:59Candice Anderson we have gotten the word out through social
0:29:03networking and So John thank you again for letting residents
0:29:10of L.A. Reid out when Kensington doe in West County and about
0:29:15everything that is happening hour by hour and appreciate you
0:29:22and Patti Wicks having your town hall over 400 people attended
0:29:27the meeting I attended a caucus meeting this morning which was
0:29:35for about a half hour and basically we are waiting
0:29:42and we're going to see if we will have
0:29:44our meeting in Monterrey in the month of June
0:29:48or if we will do this the
0:29:51WebEx or zoom that's my uptake All right
0:29:56thank you pro tem fidelity.
0:30:00Good evening.
0:30:01First I want to welcome back Janet Ables and Janet.
0:30:04We missed you Welcome back.
0:30:06I was also on a conference call.
0:30:08Yeah.
0:30:09How are you feeling pretty good now.
0:30:12Good.
0:30:13I was on the conference call as well with supervisor Joy
0:30:16and Buffy Wicks and I just wanted to now salute
0:30:20our own first responder Michelle Pardue all came out of all
0:30:23the work that she's done.
0:30:25You know it's kind of a frustrating time for those
0:30:27of us that want to help others and we can't do it
0:30:29and staying at home and we have our council member
0:30:32on the frontlines helping.
0:30:33So again thank you so much.
0:30:35Rochelle We really appreciate that.
0:30:38I also have a policy planning meeting with the League
0:30:41of Cities for transportation and public utilities
0:30:45and the biggest item I pulled from that was that in the state
0:30:49capital the league is fighting to extend
0:30:52the underground utility and the grounding program
0:30:55that PG&E in the PUC implements.
0:30:57There is a sunset clause on that and some legislators are
0:31:02going to try to change that.
0:31:03I connected with city about sending a letter in the amount
0:31:07of time to comment on that program
0:31:09the PUC to make sure that that program stays running
0:31:14And I also want to thank the chamber of commerce for all
0:31:16their help in letting those of us in the City
0:31:18know the small businesses and restaurants that
0:31:21are open for our services Thank you.
0:31:28Great thank you.
0:31:29I want to do a report out from our closed
0:31:31session from March 17th.
0:31:34We may met with our labor negotiators
0:31:37and gave them instructions.
0:31:39Additionally if you haven't completed your census already
0:31:43you probably are getting mail regarding your census
0:31:47so please participate in the census Everyone
0:31:50needs to be counted.
0:31:52Important financial decisions are made based on our count.
0:31:57So please fill out your census that we'll move on
0:32:04to item 3 I am now announcing that Item
0:32:093 is being read This is oral communications from the public.
0:32:15So at this time period for submitting public comments
0:32:18regarding matters on not on the agenda and on the consent item
0:32:22is closed.
0:32:25Will the City Clerk please proceed
0:32:27with announcing who we already got communications from.
0:32:33I don't know if you were planning on doing I have it up
0:32:36if you don't have it up and coming
0:32:40and I mean I can certainly do that.
0:32:43So comments that were received by 12:00 p.m.
0:32:47today were posted on the city's website
0:32:49as supplemental materials and provided directly to the city
0:32:52council members comments for matters not on the agenda
0:32:58and comments consent.
0:32:59Items were received by the following
0:33:01individuals not on the agenda.
0:33:06Marlene George and Nick Marino and those
0:33:10have been again posted online with all of the council
0:33:13meeting materials.
0:33:15Prior to this meeting and at this time
0:33:20I'll proceed with reading the additional comments
0:33:22we have received into the rep record
0:33:24which at this point in time is only two additional comments.
0:33:28So Mayor With your permission I'll
0:33:30just proceed with the three minute
0:33:32time limit per submission.
0:33:35Yeah.
0:33:35Who are the two that you plan to read I'm sorry.
0:33:40Can you repeat that.
0:33:41Yeah.
0:33:42Who are the two comments that you're planning to reviewed.
0:33:46These are new submissions that were not posted online.
0:33:48These were submissions that we have
0:33:50received after the trouble.
0:33:51Yeah.
0:33:52So we thought this in and Miss handle.
0:33:56Is that correct.
0:33:58No I have ace Aisling AC and Nick Zambrano
0:34:06for items not on the agenda.
0:34:09We're holding the comments for it
0:34:12until we discuss the greatest.
0:34:14Thank you.
0:34:15That's correct.
0:34:16Okay.
0:34:16So I will proceed with the first public comments
0:34:18that we have received from alien base
0:34:22with the three minute time starting now.
0:34:26Your council members it saddens me
0:34:28that it has taken so much time for the city leaders
0:34:31to make meaningful changes to our city's budget.
0:34:34I wonder if any changes would have been
0:34:36made at the auditor's report and highlighted
0:34:39our financial issues.
0:34:40An incredible group of dedicated citizens
0:34:43have provided oversight and collected evidence of city
0:34:46mismanagement I am grateful to them
0:34:48but I can't help but think that their talents could have been
0:34:51used towards growing a city not just trying to save it
0:34:54from total insolvency I eagerly await the meaningful cuts that
0:34:58need to happen.
0:34:59As others have mentioned new taxes is not the way forward.
0:35:03That is the old way of doing things
0:35:05and it is no longer acceptable.
0:35:07Thanks for residents generosity.
0:35:09The city spent really well providing residents
0:35:12with general fund services that are average best
0:35:16only our library hours festivals and Senior Services
0:35:19rise above the minimum level of city services
0:35:23the city needs to take and to look inward first
0:35:26before cutting services to residents
Under council communications, Pardue-Okimoto reported the county's figures and where to find them.
The source: a town hall held that day by the county supervisor and an assembly member “as well as other county health officials,” pointing to a website “updated frequently.”
What it carries: “information, statistics, prevention, what to do if you're sick, health services updates.”
The figure that afternoon: “the total cases of covid 19 in Contra Costa County are four hundred and forty two.”
She added that 5,831 people had been tested, 29 were in hospital and seven had died. El Cerrito had five cases, which she said was the lowest per capita in the county. The county expected its peak in late April or early May, and now asked residents to cover their faces when they went out.
Abelson relayed the chamber of commerce's list of “all of the places that will deliver food to a home,” aimed at “seniors and others who shouldn't be going out or can't get out.”
Quinto reported from Sacramento: “we're going to have [a] very bare bones year dealing with legislation… many of” the planned bills “will not be put through because of the cost.”
Fadelli welcomed Abelson back and reported that the League of Cities was working to extend the PG&E undergrounding program, which faced a sunset clause; he had asked the city to comment to the PUC. The Mayor reported out of the 17 March closed session that the Council had instructed its labor negotiators, and urged residents to complete the census.
Two written comments on items not on the agenda were read. The first said new taxes were not the way forward and the city should look inward before cutting services or raising taxes, starting with senior management salaries, overtime for exempt managers, fire overtime and professional services contracts.
The county reported 442 cases, five of them in El Cerrito, which a councilmember said was the lowest per capita in the county. Residents were pointed to the county's website for figures, including city-level statistics.
02 Three thousand six hundred and forty-three calls captions 367–459
0:35:28or raising taxes yet again.
0:35:31Start by rolling back senior management salaries that
0:35:33have grown without regard to the city's broken and disregarded
0:35:37median compensation policy and that in any case
0:35:41the city can not afford to pay eliminate overtime pay for FLSA
0:35:46exempt managers reduce the fire departments
0:35:49and reimbursed overtime over reliance on uniformed personnel
0:35:54for non response activities and top heavy staffing eliminate
0:35:59contracting for all professional services that can be performed
0:36:02by staff reduce the cost of providing senior services
0:36:07while preserving their most important functions
0:36:10and once passed the immediate crisis plan to fully
0:36:13restructure fire safety negotiate sustainable pensions
0:36:18and undertake economic development
0:36:20efforts We need the entire city to know what is going on.
0:36:24Remember all the glossy mailings used for every new tax
0:36:28or for the library bond.
0:36:30You didn't didn't fool around then when you wanted
0:36:32people to know certain things.
0:36:34We need some truth here and some guts.
0:36:37It is time that all council members
0:36:39step up something that our staff does thus
0:36:42seem able or willing to do.
0:36:44Please remember that your choices
0:36:46affect everyone and El Serino.
0:36:48Please remember why you got into public service
0:36:50in the first place and make a positive difference
0:36:54in people's lives.
0:36:55Thank you Aisling Baines and Steven
0:36:58Brian Elsa Rita residents.
0:37:01Thank you.
0:37:04And then the next submission is from Nick Zambrano
0:37:06and I will stop his three minute time now.
0:37:12According to this city manager's update dated one twenty three
0:37:15twenty to also read a full service fire department
0:37:19conducted three thousand six hundred
0:37:21forty three service calls in 2019.
0:37:24December reflected a record year of service calls
0:37:27over a five year period.
0:37:28There has been an 18 percent increase out of these three
0:37:32thousand six hundred and forty recalls one thousand
0:37:35two hundred were for emergency medical services and rescues.
0:37:39This increase is likely to continue in 2020 and 2021
0:37:44or in city practices not to charge
0:37:46residents for these services due bill health insurance plans.
0:37:50Other cities either charge a reasonable rate for EMR
0:37:54s calls and or obtain reimbursement from health
0:37:57insurance plans for example the City of Albany first responder
0:38:01rates are three hundred dollars per hour one hundred
0:38:04four engine and one hundred for each firefighter paramedic
0:38:09the city of Berkeley bills for e M.S.
0:38:11first responders at the alameda approved rate for ambulance
0:38:14services three hundred dollar flat fee both cities implement
0:38:19Direct filling through a third party billing agency Whitman
0:38:22Enterprises LLC and report a seamless process for charging
0:38:26residents and obtaining reimbursement from health
0:38:29insurance providers.
0:38:31In addition to charging for emergency medical bills.
0:38:34Albany and Berkeley contract with Alameda County
0:38:37Emergency Services Agency for ambulance services
0:38:41at the base rate.
0:38:42Two thousand one hundred eighty one dollars which was six
0:38:46point one eight percent increase from 2017.
0:38:50In fiscal year 2018 the ambulance billing revenue
0:38:54collected for Berkeley was four point three four million
0:38:58based on an estimated eight thousand transports per year.
0:39:01The newly fee the increase is projected
0:39:04to increase Berkeley's revenue by approximately
0:39:07seventy five thousand a year.
0:39:09Should also credo choose to do the same.
0:39:11It would be with Contra Costa o l
0:39:14e as a Contra Costa County Board of Directors
0:39:18said the ambulance based rates for 2019
0:39:21at two thousand three hundred twelve dollars
0:39:25Contra Costa County Fire Protection District
0:39:29has established a compassionate care program
0:39:31for residents who don't have health
0:39:33and health insurance plans such as Medicare
0:39:36medical or private insurance.
0:39:39The CCP was established for financial hardships
0:39:42and can discount up to 100 percent of a patient's
0:39:45ambulance service bill.
0:39:47Patients must meet program criteria to be eligible.
0:39:51This is from Nick Zambrano make else read fire.
0:39:56Great thank you.
0:39:56That's one word my name.
0:39:58Okay.
0:39:59That concludes this the comments that we have received
0:40:02at this time on items not on the agenda or items
0:40:06on the consent calendar.
0:40:07Great.
0:40:07Thank you.
0:40:08At this time we'll move on to item for adoption
A written comment made the case for billing insurers, with the city's own figures and two neighbors' rates.
The volume, from the city manager's own update: the fire department “conducted three thousand six hundred forty three service calls in 2019” — “a record year of service calls over a five year period… an 18 percent increase.”
The composition: “one thousand two hundred were for emergency medical services and rescues.”
Then the practice: “city practice is not to charge residents for these services [or] bill health insurance plans.”
Against the neighbors: Albany's “first responder rates are three hundred dollars per hour, one hundred [for the] engine and one hundred for each firefighter paramedic.”
And Berkeley “bills for EMS first responders at the Alameda approved rate for ambulance services, three hundred dollar flat fee.”
Both use “Direct [bil]ling through a third party billing agency” and “report a seamless process.”
The comment added that Albany and Berkeley contract for ambulance service at a base rate of $2,181, that Berkeley collected $4.34 million in ambulance billing in 2018, and that the Contra Costa fire district runs a compassionate care program that can discount a bill by up to 100 percent for patients in financial hardship.
A written comment cites the city's own figures: 3,643 fire calls in 2019, a record and an 18 percent increase, of which 1,200 were medical. El Cerrito does not bill residents or insurers for them, while Albany and Berkeley both bill through a third-party agency, at about $300. The fire chief reports on billing insurers (5 May 2020).
03 Seventeen consent items captions 460–721
0:40:11of the consent calendar.
0:40:13I'm going to take us in minor chunks
0:40:17because I would like to at least read off the titles of these
0:40:20and I don't feel like reading them all off in one
0:40:24go What I'd like to do is take up item for A
0:40:30for just the approval of the minute meeting
0:40:32minutes from January and February
0:40:35that council member able some did not attend.
0:40:38So if I could have a motion to approve the minutes for January
0:40:4121st February 1st February 4th and February 18th summit
0:40:47Okamoto can cancel members as a reminder please
0:40:56make sure you meet yourself before you
0:40:58speak so to ensure that your heard
0:41:02not can you hear my motion.
0:41:04Yes the motion by Purdue Okamoto seconded by FDLE.
0:41:08All those in favor please say I have five
0:41:11state and state recording or abstention
0:41:14from council member Ableton.
0:41:16Let me.
0:41:18Yes sorry.
0:41:19And we have to do rock roll call vote for every side.
0:41:22All right.
0:41:25OK how about as many as I can This
0:41:29is the motion for the January and February council meetings
0:41:35And I'll do a roll call vote for that.
0:41:36Now Mayor LYMAN Yes mayor.
0:41:39Pretend FDLE high and some member Abel sin.
0:41:45I abstain from the minutes of January 21st.
0:41:50February 4 Savoy fourth.
0:41:51In February Council member Bill council
0:41:57member party youth committed.
0:42:01I and team member Quito and team member Quito and some member
0:42:20kick you make sure that you're you take yourself off of mutes
0:42:32Are you there.
0:42:41I think you're back I'm tense member Quito Are you there.
0:42:44Yeah sorry about that.
0:42:46Thank you and how do you vote.
0:42:50I vote yes in sir said the motion carries 4 0.
0:42:58Excellent.
0:42:58So now we're able to then abstain.
0:43:01Now I'm going to read some additional items so a content
0:43:09calendar item A for March 13 and March 17th.
0:43:14We also have item for B which is National
0:43:18Library Week Proclamation or C which
0:43:21is Earth Day proclamation.
0:43:23And there does recognize that Earth Day April 18th has been
0:43:29cancelled and also Rito Item four d proclamation recognized
0:43:35marches American Red Cross Montaigne
0:43:38or E Education and Sharing Day proclamation for April 12.
0:43:45And that would be online sharing justice sharing
0:43:50for EFF Environmental Quality Committee work plan
0:43:53that was excellent presentation by our environmental quality
0:43:59committee.
0:43:59That's the big red ball count for G
0:44:02is Contra Costa County Library Commission.
0:44:05Update again our commissioner Michael Fisher
0:44:09did a wonderful job summarizing information
0:44:11about the library system item for H
0:44:15on prevention committee appointment.
0:44:16Item 4 I. Committee on Aging appointment.
0:44:21Item 4 J is the support of a bus only lane on the Bay Bridge.
0:44:27Which is at the request of Mayor pretend
0:44:30to delegate its adopted resolution supporting
0:44:33a bus only lane or K is letters of support of SB 5 4 by Allen
0:44:41and a B 10 80 by Gonzalez and these.
0:44:47This is a resolution that authorizes me to send letters
0:44:52in support of these reducing the amount of single use plastic
0:44:56packaging products that enter our waste
0:44:58stream item for L which is letters
0:45:04in support of solid waste.
0:45:05Emergency funding proposals around the state.
0:45:09This is an essential service.
0:45:11However the changes in our economy
0:45:14have taken a toll on this vital industry item for em.
0:45:21Parking restrictions on Elm Street south
0:45:24of the eighteen hundred Elm Street driveway and item four
0:45:29and which is consulting services agreements
0:45:31for on call construction management.
0:45:35Item and I'm going to stop there so its items for a through 4
0:45:43and where for a has been modified
0:45:45to be just the March 13 and March 17 meetings get in
0:45:51motion.
0:45:53I move to move that SECOND SECOND MAN Move move by Quito
0:46:02and seconded by Purdue Okamoto.
0:46:05Roll call please.
0:46:08May or may.
0:46:10Yes.
0:46:11May I attempt to delete my council member Abelson.
0:46:19Council member Peggy Okamoto.
0:46:21I I council member Quito I motion carries a thank you.
0:46:31I'm now going to introduce and ask for a motion on Item 4
0:46:380 which is authorized the annual report
0:46:40for landscape and lighting assessment district.
0:46:42And item for Q which is the annual parcel
0:46:46assessment for the National Pollution
0:46:48Discharge Elimination System.
0:46:50Both these matters are associated with our budgeting.
0:46:56These are items that come up every year.
0:46:59And for those that have been tracking council
0:47:01you know every year I have the second comment
0:47:04on these two items.
0:47:06Neither one of these funding measures
0:47:09actually covers the full cost of performing the landscape
0:47:13and lighting assessment or providing
0:47:15clean water protections associated
0:47:17with our stormwater runoff.
0:47:20However these are at the maximum amount that is allowed
0:47:25by various enacting ordinances.
0:47:30Put these these two funding measures in place
0:47:33with that I would say there there's no other comments I
0:47:36would love to get a motion for.
0:47:38Oh and for q q mean this uncommitted cannot be moved
0:47:47by Purdue Okamoto seconded by Emerson we
0:47:50will now take roll your name.
0:47:56Yes.
0:47:57Pretend finale.
0:48:00What about yes.
0:48:01But I have a question as well and my hand up my knee
0:48:07would precede with the question first before the vote.
0:48:12Yes go ahead Mr. Stein It's time for Q I was doing it talks
0:48:17about not covering the cost I was doing what the cost
0:48:20differential was where the storm water how much more does it
0:48:25will it cost you provide the actual cost
0:48:30doesn't any staff know that you had to see major pinkos
0:48:34This is made of sorties with us tonight.
0:48:37Yes sir.
0:48:40This is it that these the city's public works director
0:48:44the approximate cost of providing
0:48:46clean water related activities is five hundred
0:48:49and fifty thousand dollars.
0:48:51And forget about three hundred thirty thousand
0:48:54dollars per year.
0:48:56So General Fund supports about two hundred thousand
0:48:59in additional clean water duties to our general fund
0:49:03pending the general fund pays two hundred thousand for that
0:49:07every year You know how much more than thirty eight dollars
0:49:15a year it would cost each resident
0:49:19No I have not made that calculation
0:49:21but I can provide it.
0:49:23OK Thank you.
0:49:27And as long as we've established that differential
0:49:30I believe and I'm not sure who is going
0:49:32to answer the landscape lighting assessment
0:49:34but I believe it's about four hundred thousand
0:49:35dollars from General fund for landscape
0:49:37building and assessment.
0:49:39Well I just looked at those.
0:49:43This is a backward thesis city's public works
0:49:45director on it's closer to six hundred thousand now.
0:49:49Well cost down about one point for a million dollars
0:49:54and we received just under eight hundred thousand dollars
0:49:57light lighting in next this is thank you.
0:50:03We have a motion on the floor from Part 2
0:50:05of Moto seconded by Ableton we're in the middle of the vote
0:50:08count please proceed.
0:50:11So we have a yes from there likely you pretend finale.
0:50:15I can't remember Wilson.
0:50:19All right council member can do it.
0:50:22Okey doke.
0:50:27I can't member can go.
0:50:31I know she carries great great at this time.
0:50:35Can you bring up Holly.
0:50:37Can you bring up the supplemental materials
0:50:40specifically the red longing of light.
0:50:45Which was page thirty five I think
0:50:48your supplemental materials that were sent out.
0:50:55Right.
0:50:56Thank you.
0:50:57So item four P is a construction contract to award for Carlson
0:51:02boulevard in central avenue.
0:51:03Pavement rehabilitation The construction contract.
0:51:08I know the construction contract won't necessarily
0:51:11start during our current targeted ending of our health
0:51:16ordinance our health order.
0:51:18However I felt it was important that we recognized
0:51:22that this contract is essential and therefore
0:51:25the reason we're awarding it is that if if the order is
0:51:29extended we still might start this work before the order is
0:51:35lifted and in order to do that I wanted to make sure that we had
0:51:39clear guidance that this was an essential project
0:51:44in keeping with the health order that was issued last week.
0:51:48The supplemental materials does include language
0:51:52from staff that implements that request of mine so at this time
0:51:59if there's any questions on this matter I don't have a question
0:52:03that I do want to comment.
0:52:06Go ahead.
0:52:07OK.
0:52:08Is Janet able to the FDA advisory committee
0:52:13has made a number of comments about the area being covered
0:52:18by this which is central What is central
0:52:25and San Pablo not comfortable San Diego
0:52:33and could also Carlson in that area and there
0:52:38and there have been accidents involving people in wheelchairs
0:52:45get injured I believe.
0:52:47I remember correctly.
0:52:49So there's been a lot of accidents
0:52:55that occurred there that would not have occurred
0:52:58had this work.
0:52:58And then if this is the work I'm thinking this is that correct
0:53:04that anyway that's what what I remember
0:53:14people describing so that's the point of of your comment.
0:53:21Excellent.
0:53:21Thank you.
0:53:22Charles I I appreciate that.
0:53:27With that I would like to have a motion for the amended item 44
0:53:34P. construction contract word for Carlson and the Central
0:53:38Avenue patent building rehabilitation project Can
0:53:43I confirm that Mr. Kent's ever finale did not have a question.
0:53:47His gun is still raised.
0:53:48Oh sorry I didn't I can't undo that.
0:53:52No I have no question about this either.
0:53:56Okay.
0:53:57It looks like hours and even 30s some comments
0:54:01to make or so before before that you come on I wanted to let
0:54:07Holly know I am unable to see this being raised
0:54:10so you will need to talk to me.
0:54:13Thank you.
0:54:14And if you have the participant channel exposed
0:54:18you should be able to see the hand function
0:54:20but I can certainly let you know when
0:54:21someone does raise their hands.
0:54:25I just wanted to confirm the limits of the project
0:54:29on this project is on Carlson on the central to the Nazis
0:54:35limits.
0:54:36Does it include the San Diego intersection.
0:54:38That is another project that's in our capital
0:54:41improvement program Oh okay.
0:54:51Could I get one of the council members to raise their hand.
0:54:54I just want to do technology check here.
0:55:00Council member Peggy locomotive and council member for L.A.
0:55:03have raised their hands.
0:55:05No unfortunately Holly I am not able to see even with my panel
0:55:09open and very clearly I can see My hand
0:55:13is but I am unable to see their hands so I
0:55:15apologize for that technology.
0:55:18Thank goodness to play interrupted that you know
0:55:21when someone is their hand.
0:55:22Which council member came to know who raised you again.
0:55:26GREAT OF ME.
0:55:27I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT.
0:55:28GREAT.
0:55:29WE HAVE.
0:55:30I believe I heard Purdue Okamoto also
0:55:32say that she wanted to move it.
0:55:34We've got at least a motion by Kato
0:55:37and second by Purdue Okamoto Is that acceptable to everyone.
0:55:41Yes I can't remember fidelity.
0:55:44Oh I think it's fine.
0:55:50I'm so happy I keep Kato and seconded by FDLE
0:55:54and we'll have a roll call now near lining Yes ma'am.
0:56:00Pretend finale.
0:56:02I can some member think.
0:56:05Yes.
0:56:06Ken's a member party Okamoto Yes.
0:56:10I can't remember Quito.
0:56:12I Captain right.
0:56:16Thank you.
0:56:17That concludes item for item 5 presentations.
0:56:21We have no presentations this evening.
0:56:23Item 6 is public hearings We have
0:56:26no public hearings tonight.
0:56:27Item 7 policy matters 7 A is the general fund
The consent calendar was taken in four votes.
The minutes of 21 January and 1, 4 and 18 February were adopted 4–0, with Abelson abstaining because she had not attended those meetings. The minutes of 13 and 17 March went with the next group.
Four proclamations: National Library Week, Earth Day (the Mayor noted the Earth Day event had been canceled), American Red Cross Month, and Education and Sharing Day.
Also on consent: the Environmental Quality Committee work plan, a county library commission update, and two committee appointments, one to the Committee on Aging.
Regional advocacy: support for a bus-only lane on the Bay Bridge, letters backing SB 54 (Allen) and AB 1080 (Gonzalez) on single-use packaging, and letters supporting solid waste emergency funding.
The second group added a parking restriction on Elm Street and on-call construction management agreements. The landscape and lighting annual report and the stormwater parcel assessment were taken together, and the pavement rehabilitation contract for Carlson Boulevard and Central Avenue separately.
The Mayor noted that neither assessment covers its full cost, though both are at the maximum their enacting ordinances allow. Asked by a councilmember, the public works director put clean water costs at about $550,000 a year against about $330,000 collected, so the general fund covers about $200,000. For landscape and lighting, costs of about $1.4 million against just under $800,000 received put the general fund share closer to $600,000.
The Mayor singled out the pavement contract to record that it was essential work under the health order, so it could start even if the order were extended. Abelson noted accidents in the project area involving people in wheelchairs.
Each group was adopted by roll call.
Seventeen consent items, including a pavement rehabilitation contract declared essential under the health order so the work could start even if the order were extended. Staff put clean water costs at about $550,000 against about $330,000 collected, and landscape and lighting costs at about $1.4 million against just under $800,000. Both assessments are at their legal maximum, so the general fund covers the difference.
04 The workshop that didn't happen captions 722–940
0:56:33but hit reductions update in fiscal impacts of COBRA 19.
0:56:39We're going to conduct a study session
0:56:41and receive an update on the city's general fund budget
0:56:43reduction And provide staff with direction
0:56:46on further budget reductions.
0:56:49The period for submitting public comments on this item
0:56:53is now closed comments will be heard before council
0:56:57takes action at this time.
0:57:00I would like to request a staff report Thank you Your Honor
0:57:11City Manager Karen get everyone here.
0:57:14All right.
0:57:16The agenda follows a series of city capital actions
0:57:21and public meetings over the past several months
0:57:23at the city's budget position.
0:57:26In light of the results of the fiscal year
0:57:281990 audit and the review initiated by the California
0:57:32state auditor as you know the city
0:57:34council and city staff also initiated
0:57:36a strategic planning process.
0:57:38Engaging the consulting firm management partners.
0:57:41This is informed and informing the Council
0:57:44on the priorities of AP For the upcoming fiscal year.
0:57:47Twenty one and twenty two.
0:57:50Ideal budget process.
0:57:52The intention was to hold a strategic planning workshop
0:57:55with the city council on March 14th
0:57:57in order to discuss the results of the community feedback.
0:58:00Review the priorities and provide direction
0:58:02on strategic goals that would then be used
0:58:04to develop the biennial budget.
0:58:07The council was also set to review the City Council's
0:58:09budget at the March 17th city council meeting
0:58:11and receive proposed budget cuts in response.
0:58:14The city council's request for a 5 percent reduction on April 7
0:58:19which is tonight.
0:58:21Since that time however as you all know the code nineteen
0:58:24coronavirus pandemic has resulted in a public health
0:58:27crisis that has interfered with the planned course of business
0:58:30tremendously as you know on March 13th the city council
0:58:34declared a local emergency in an emergency meeting that resulted
0:58:38in the closure of all city facilities to the public
0:58:41and canceled all public meetings events programs and classes
0:58:44including the planned meetings I spoke of on March 14th and 17
0:58:50pursuant to the local emergency as well as the county shelter
0:58:53in place order the facilities are now closed through May 1st
0:58:582020 and events and non-essential meetings
0:59:02are canceled through May 30 first the county
0:59:05order has also closed
0:59:06non-essential businesses and required residents
0:59:08to stay home only unless absolutely necessary.
0:59:12In El Sarita the immediate impact as far as our budget
0:59:16is concerned of this health crisis
0:59:19are revenue losses due to decreased sales taxes
0:59:22real property transfer tax and from the cancellation
0:59:25of recreation programs and classes.
0:59:27We will go over this in detail shortly.
0:59:31What this means though is that our previous strategic goals
0:59:35budget adjustments projections and even
0:59:40reductions must again in unprecedented
0:59:43economic downturn.
0:59:46City staff has been in consultation
0:59:47with management partners and our other financial consultants
0:59:50over the past few weeks to discuss recommendations
0:59:53and priorities in light of the new budget reality
0:59:56that cities are faced with because of it.
0:59:5919 public health crisis management partners tonight
1:00:02will provide the city council with an update
1:00:04on the information gathered in the strategic planning process
1:00:08and outline their recommendations
1:00:09for the financial priorities for the upcoming biennial budget.
1:00:13With that I would actually like to introduce Nancy Patrick you
1:00:16know from our partners and Steve Toller who is also
1:00:20of management partners and they will begin
1:00:22the presentation tonight at this time
1:00:25I'd like to turn it over to Nancy.
1:00:28OK.
1:00:28I think Karen Can anybody hear me OK.
1:00:34We'll say that just a mayor members of council.
1:00:37Thank you.
1:00:37I wish we were here under rider circumstances
1:00:40as Karen mentioned we were scheduled
1:00:42in March to convene for a workshop on the strategic plan.
1:00:47A lot of work has gone in that process.
1:00:49There was activity we from community members
1:00:53through a variety of sources but as we know the world
1:00:57has changed.
1:00:58So we are going to be spending some time the majority
1:01:01of our time focused on what we seem to be seen
1:01:04to be as the top priority for the city
1:01:07for the foreseeable future.
1:01:09That coming next year up to two years I will go through
1:01:12and actually Steve's going to take me
1:01:14quickly through the slides and quick
1:01:16overview of our presentation.
1:01:18I'm going to take you through just a quick overview.
1:01:21I think it's important to share with you what
1:01:24we heard from your community through a variety
1:01:27of different activities.
1:01:29It was quite clear through our conversations
1:01:32through focus groups through surveys interviews that
1:01:36even prior to the CO bid pandemic situation that we're
1:01:40all living with today your community council members
1:01:44and staff are all well aware of the financial situation with
1:01:48the city the city was facing.
1:01:50So we'll go through those results
1:01:53and share those and go rather quickly will pause.
1:01:55Once we get through that in case there are any questions
1:01:59but then we really want to shift gears and focus
1:02:01on the fiscal impacts of October 19
1:02:05we will reflect first on the current state of the budget
1:02:09and the actions that the city has already taken and is
1:02:11undertaking which are of note and important
1:02:15but then also provide you with some of the insights
1:02:19we've been able to glean through some modeling fiscal modeling
1:02:22related to the cover 19.
1:02:24So Steve will take us through the financial components
1:02:27of our presentation and again what
1:02:28we'll pause periodically for your comments and questions.
1:02:32And we have a lot of material to get through but we want
1:02:35to make sure that there is opportunity
1:02:36for engagement and dialogue and to make sure it
1:02:39is hearing the same message.
1:02:42Next we're going to talk about those top priorities
1:02:45for the coming year as you're contemplating a budget
1:02:49for the next fiscal year.
1:02:51In light of all of the uncertainty
1:02:52and unknowns that we're facing we'll
1:02:54talk about those priorities and then the next steps
1:02:58after we get through this period.
1:03:01If you will we will be revisiting the balance
1:03:04of the strategic plan.
1:03:05We're just spotlighting and focusing
1:03:07on the financial priority.
1:03:09The goal really to secure the long term financial health
1:03:12and sustainability of the city.
1:03:15The remainder of the goals are highlighting the themes
1:03:17that I present will be captured in the strategic plan
1:03:20for a longer horizon.
1:03:21Looking forward that's the presentation overview I again
1:03:25I'm going to go through quickly just kind
1:03:27of what we heard in an update on the strategic planning process
1:03:31because there was a lot of time energy
1:03:32that was expended on this work and we want to we were
1:03:35grateful for the participation and the input
1:03:37that we received so quickly an overview of the process
1:03:41and the activities that we've pursued as council will recall
1:03:46we had an opportunity to meet and one on one interviews
1:03:49to discuss the the strategic plan strengths
1:03:53challenges opportunities threats looking to the next three
1:03:56to five year horizon.
1:03:58Again this was earlier this year in January
1:04:00so this predates all of the CO bid and knowledge
1:04:04that we have now.
1:04:06So we we met in in January.
1:04:08We also asked Department heads and their teams to respond
1:04:11to a questionnaire that solicited input
1:04:15similar to our interviews asking about strengths challenges
1:04:18approaches and threats but also the key priorities and projects
1:04:22that they have underway.
1:04:24And on the horizon and our need.
1:04:26So we were able to capture that input early on as well.
1:04:31We also facilitated four stakeholder
1:04:33focus groups the focus the focus groups were comprised.
1:04:38The first one a group of your 14 commissioners.
1:04:41Secondarily we had a focus group with this
1:04:44is representatives from the Chamber and other community
1:04:48business leaders.
1:04:50We also had a focus group with community representative so
1:04:53community members that represented
1:04:55broader organizations or groups to represent their voices.
1:05:00And then we also had one with a diverse cross-section of staff
1:05:04so all levels of the organization and
1:05:06all departments represented.
1:05:09So we heard we heard from the start of the call groups
1:05:12and we also supported the city with a Online Community Survey.
1:05:18This was posted to the city's website and encouraged input.
1:05:23Residents were encouraged to respond online.
1:05:26In addition the city held an open house at which point
1:05:29we made it.
1:05:30Community members could provide additional input
1:05:32and respond to the survey.
1:05:33There were three hundred and eighty one responses
1:05:35to that online survey which were supplemental to the themes
1:05:39that we had captured through other avenues.
1:05:42In addition to the online survey there
1:05:45was a National Citizen's survey that was conducted
1:05:47last year by the city.
1:05:50We were given the results of that survey as well
1:05:53and really the themes that emerge became thematic.
1:05:57I'm going to go through those in a moment and consistent.
1:06:00There weren't a whole lot of outliers in the broad themes
1:06:03that we heard.
1:06:04The last item on this process overview
1:06:06is called an environmental scan.
1:06:07You may recall from the last time we did the strategic plan.
1:06:10This is really to provide some context
1:06:13and use some data that profiles city demographic trends.
1:06:18Other notable influences on on the city's
1:06:23decisions for setting goals at Empire going forward.
1:06:27We are going to be giving us a quick snapshot
1:06:29of the environmental scan we're not sure that the whole of it
1:06:32tonight.
1:06:32Aside from the fiscal component which we did a significantly
1:06:37deeper dive this round and that's
1:06:40when we brought in Steve Toller whose background
1:06:42is in public finance.
1:06:44He's got years of experience and he's
1:06:47going to take us through that.
1:06:48That section of our presentation this evening.
1:06:52But part of our assignment given the auditor's report
1:06:56and the knowledge of the city's finances
1:06:59we took a deeper dive a fresh set of eyes to the finances
1:07:02that's environmental I'm going to quickly walk
1:07:05through the notable themes from the outreach
1:07:09and then I'll pause after that.
1:07:10Again this is just to give you a sense of what we heard
1:07:13so we asked about strengths challenges
1:07:15opportunities and threats.
1:07:16When asked about strengths some of the things that stood out
The City Manager explained what this session was supposed to have been.
The context: the budget position “in light of the results of the fiscal year” audit “and the review initiated by the California state auditor.”
The Council had asked for a 5 percent reduction, with proposed cuts due on 7 April — the night of this meeting.
Alongside it, the Council “also initiated a strategic planning process, engaging the consulting firm Management Partners” to inform “the priorities… for the upcoming fiscal year.”
The plan: “the intention was to hold a strategic planning workshop with the city council on March 14th, in order to discuss the results of the community feedback [and] review the priorities.”
It was canceled when the Council declared a local emergency on 13 March, the day before, closing city facilities and canceling all meetings.
The consultants said the engagement work had been done: interviews with councilmembers, a questionnaire to department heads, four focus groups, an online survey with 381 responses, and the National Community Survey. The evening would focus instead on the city's finances.
A service scoring method follows (19 May 2020), and then the fiscal response plan (11 Aug 2020).
A strategic planning workshop scheduled for 14 March was canceled by the local emergency declared the day before. The engagement work had been done, and this session became a financial diagnosis instead.
05 What the community said, and the top employers captions 941–1180
1:07:20and these are not going to be surprising to location
1:07:23was something that people see as a strength including access
1:07:27to the two BART stations safe and clean the diversity
1:07:31people value that and see that as a strength
1:07:33of your community.
1:07:34They also recognized the access the accessible nature
1:07:38of both staff and policymakers and that they
1:07:42had an appreciation for the connectedness that exists there
1:07:46lots of appreciation and strength
1:07:47for them in the recreation programs parks
1:07:49and open space for valued and also
1:07:52the commitment to the environment and sustainability.
1:07:54And we heard a lot about you know what is some strength
1:07:56and something that you value and the recycling
1:07:59center came up repeatedly.
1:08:01The challenges that we heard and we're
1:08:04going to explore some of these a little bit deeper this evening.
1:08:07First off that there are very high levels of expectation
1:08:11for service delivery in the community
1:08:12and we heard this from all sectors
1:08:16But there's a really high level of expectation on service
1:08:19on services provided.
1:08:21And maybe this is in part a reflection of the accessibility
1:08:24and the sense of responsiveness but there's also
1:08:27and this is the one we underscore underscoring bowl
1:08:29and bold a clear recognition that there's
1:08:32a significant challenge with the budget and staffing limitations
1:08:37within the city also lack of infrastructure funding
1:08:40and planning was mentioned safety at the BART stations
1:08:43was identified as a concern.
1:08:45Succession planning as you're losing people for whatever
1:08:48reason making sure that there are the there's
1:08:51the ability for knowledge transfer and holding onto that
1:08:54and that there's not a lot of economy
1:08:55of scale in a small city like the city of Syria.
1:08:59The opportunities that we heard about our little brighter spot.
1:09:04The engagement today along lines of the budget
1:09:06there was an appreciation for the the new spirit
1:09:10of engagement that was being presented to the community
1:09:14as simultaneously a strategic planning
1:09:17effort for hosting a series of budget workshops and budget.
1:09:21Sessions and really engaging in conversation with the public
1:09:24and I think that's part of why we've
1:09:26heard a clear understanding and appreciation for the situation
1:09:31with the city.
1:09:32Also opportunity a lot of comments economic development
1:09:36certainly along San Pablo Avenue understanding and seeing
1:09:39the development activity that is there and as envisioned
1:09:42was seen as an opportunity along the link to that
1:09:46but also separate is revenue generation
1:09:49might want to explore that further down the road
1:09:53re-establishing reserves.
1:09:54This is another tangent to the financial realities.
1:09:57So the opportunity to really invest and make
1:09:59sure that you have adequate reserves or safe some kind
1:10:03of an emergency to emerge identifying
1:10:07efficiencies utilizing technology
1:10:09and also transit oriented development.
1:10:11Also seen as an opportunity last set of themes I'll highlight
1:10:15relate to threats.
1:10:17These are generally external in nature but are
1:10:19things to be mindful of.
1:10:22The first one which again I would bolt and underscore
1:10:24for today is an economic downturn a recession which we
1:10:28will be exploring further climate
1:10:30change natural disasters pandemics we're not
1:10:33among the list of items considered as a threat
1:10:35but now we know that they also are the development outpaces
1:10:39capacity loss of employees and that kind of ties
1:10:43back to the need for succession planning
1:10:46and then a threat could also be a loss of trust on the public.
1:10:49So things to kind of keep in mind the sightline
1:10:52of council going forward.
1:10:54So those are the themes and the threats
1:10:56are the strengths challenges opportunities and threats.
1:11:00The next slide summarizes some takeaways from the committee
1:11:03surveys and focus groups And so as
1:11:06I mentioned there was an online open gap
1:11:09survey that was made available to all residents to respond to.
1:11:14In addition the city administered
1:11:17the national community survey 90 like it last year in 2019.
1:11:21The summary results of those highlight the fact
1:11:24that also Rito is perceived as a very desirable place to live.
1:11:27Nine in 10 residents recommend let me Sarita.
1:11:29So there is a lot of pride in the community this is not
1:11:32a big surprise to us but always nice to see
1:11:35validated the natural environment is
1:11:37a community asset.
1:11:38We heard that in focus groups as well as these surveys.
1:11:42As I mentioned the recycling center
1:11:43and an appreciation for environmental activism
1:11:48is valued here.
1:11:50The economy is an area of opportunity
1:11:52for all Serino and residents value safety and really
1:11:55emphasize its importance and so for public safety
1:11:58aside from at the BART stations there is there's not
1:12:02a big threat or concern but certainly a priority
1:12:07placed on public safety and in the community.
1:12:10And so that was where things we heard in this survey.
1:12:14We asked respondents to rank a whole series
1:12:17of potential priorities next time Steve.
1:12:22And so in doing so we were able to identify what they're
1:12:27where there is consensus.
1:12:28The first and top priority ironically
1:12:32was schools and education.
1:12:34Well we understand that the city of El Serino
1:12:36doesn't deliver education or directly service educate
1:12:41the school environment but it's important to understand
1:12:44that that's something that is certainly of value
1:12:46and appreciated in the city of El Cerrito
1:12:50if you step kind of step to the next level and set that aside.
1:12:54The top priority was longer term financial health of the city.
1:12:57And this really I think illustrates the fact
1:13:00that your community recognizes the need to spotlight and pay
1:13:04attention to this in the proposed goals
1:13:07we would have reviewed on March 14th this was
1:13:10going to be the top priority.
1:13:12I believe that stands with even a brighter spotlight today
1:13:16with coverage as you will see as through the presentation
1:13:19this evening.
1:13:20The other top priorities in order of priority
1:13:22are public safety emergency preparedness
1:13:26and economic development All of these
1:13:29were consistent with focus groups and other the things
1:13:33that other engagement activities that we've performed.
1:13:36So those are the top priorities I might pause there just
1:13:39for any quick reaction then I want
1:13:41to just do two quick slides that relate
1:13:44to the environmental scan before I hand it off to Steve
1:13:49any questions for council members
1:13:53A good based I think that was raised.
1:14:00I think that was always saying Miller raised hands.
1:14:02Okay.
1:14:04And Bambi okay.
1:14:08So this this slide takes a number of content
1:14:12slides that we had incorporated into our environmental scan
1:14:15to really paint a picture on that
1:14:18the general demographic environment the profile
1:14:20if you will of the city of El Cerrito.
1:14:22I think it's important when considering
1:14:25other factors that we're going to look at this evening.
1:14:28So starting to the left populate Shin growth
1:14:32you can see also Rita there is the green line to the bottom
1:14:36Contra Costa County by comparison is there to the top
1:14:41And so yeah there's there's a steady growth.
1:14:43This is a small city and if you look at it the percentage
1:14:46on the y axis over there you can see those are not large numbers
1:14:49so this is a relatively static number just below that you
1:14:54can see the age distribution.
1:14:56And what we can see in the trend is that the population is
1:15:02slow growing and as aging And so there are those older
1:15:06population in your city and that's
1:15:08something to be mindful of as we are exploring covered
1:15:13and other requirements of the Today middle column
1:15:18looks at hiring and education levels and income and education
1:15:23levels and so the top of that looks
1:15:26at the median household income.
1:15:28Also Rita is in red.
1:15:29And so that's the right hand column or the right hand
1:15:32bar for each of those things.
1:15:35Each of those charts.
1:15:36So that also Rita has a higher household income
1:15:40than either Contra Costa County in the middle
1:15:43or the state average in the middle
1:15:46you can see that the bottom the next two charts
1:15:50indicate that El Salvador has a highly educated community
1:15:53as well particularly in comparison to the county
1:15:55and state wide averages.
1:15:56So let's said bachelor's degrees and high high school diplomas.
1:16:00And This is not a surprise you may know that there are
1:16:04a lot of residents that are affiliated with it
1:16:07and working in education and there's a high degree
1:16:11of education and knowledge which is
1:16:13a great asset or the community in problem solving.
1:16:17So over to the right the last profile component
1:16:19I'd like to present is the homeownership and rental rates
1:16:23and so the top looks at the percent of the community
1:16:27also rental being at the top that own their home.
1:16:30So owner occupied versus renter when compared to Contra Costa
1:16:35County there's a slightly higher level
1:16:37of renters than owners in compared to contrast to county.
1:16:42This was a little bit of a surprise
1:16:44and I think that as you look to the future
1:16:46and develop along San Pablo Avenue
1:16:48there's the potential for this percentage to become even
1:16:51higher but that that is know time
1:16:53will tell if you compare that to Alameda County.
1:16:56There's actually slightly fewer renters and more home owners.
1:17:00The two charts at the bottom of that side of that
1:17:04the right hand side present the median home income home
1:17:09value and the monthly rent.
1:17:11And so the home value is right in between the average
1:17:15of Contra Costa County Alameda County.
1:17:17That's not terribly surprising there
1:17:20but the next one the median monthly rent
1:17:23you can see that El Serino when compared to Alameda
1:17:26which is just to your north is significantly more affordable
1:17:31much more in line with Contra Costa County
1:17:33and actually slightly lower.
1:17:35So that's interesting a little note.
1:17:38And then the last slide that I'd like to present
1:17:40are the top employers and this is important for today
1:17:45as we said.
1:17:46Sorry.
1:17:47Yes.
1:17:48On that previous slide.
1:17:50Yeah the the flip side of looking
1:17:53at that monthly median monthly rent
1:17:56is that projects in LS Fredo don't pencil interesting.
1:18:04OK.
1:18:04So yes it's affordable but at the same time
1:18:07it is it does not support development projects Thank you.
1:18:13Thank you Steve.
1:18:14So it becomes a barrier potentially for bringing us
1:18:16and that's an interesting observation.
1:18:18Thank you for that The other questions This is my slide
1:18:26that the next line is.
1:18:27And lastly I have no can have some conversation.
1:18:31So these are the top employers this comes
1:18:32from your Kafr notably you can see the top two
1:18:36employers Barnes Noble and Bed Bath and Beyond
1:18:38are going to be significantly hit by the downturn
1:18:42that we're experienced and loss of sales tax.
1:18:45However if you look at the the group of top end players
1:18:47overall you'll see that a number of them CBS Home Depot Lucky's
1:18:51Safeway Trader Joe's These are employers that actually
1:18:57are considered essential.
1:18:58And so they are still open they should still be open
1:19:02and that that's that's a good thing.
1:19:05So we want to just kind of give you
1:19:06a glance at those top employers it gives you a sense of the mix
1:19:09of businesses as well.
1:19:12So that's the list of employers All right.
1:19:15So that conclude sort of the high level overview if you will
1:19:19we were gonna go into a much deeper dive initially on March
1:19:2214th but we really want to take and use your time
1:19:25this evening to focus on the financial environmental scan
1:19:29of today and then forecasting what
1:19:31we are anticipating looking into the next few years.
1:19:35So I'll have to ask if there are any questions
The consultants reported the engagement findings and then a table that had acquired new meaning.
What residents valued: “recreation programs, parks and open space… and also the commitment to the environment and sustainability,” with “the recycling center” coming up “repeatedly.”
The first challenge: “there are very high levels of expectation for service delivery in the community, and we heard this from all sectors.”
Their explanation: “maybe this is in part a reflection of the accessibility and the sense of responsiveness.”
The one they emphasized: “a clear recognition that there's a significant challenge with the budget and staffing limitations,” which they were “underscoring… in bold.”
Also named: “lack of infrastructure funding and planning,” “safety at the BART stations,” “succession planning as you're losing people,” and that “there's not a lot of economy of scale in a small cit[y].”
Nine in ten residents surveyed would recommend El Cerrito. Setting aside schools, which the city does not run, residents' top priority was the city's long-term financial health, followed by public safety, emergency preparedness and economic development. The consultants also put the threat of an economic downturn in bold.
Then the top employers: “Barnes [and] Noble and Bed Bath and Beyond are going to be significantly hit by the downturn… and loss of sales tax,” while “CVS, Home Depot, Lucky's, Safeway, Trader Joe's” are “considered essential… and that's a good thing.”
Residents report “very high levels of expectation for service delivery,” which the consultants suggest may reflect “the accessibility and the sense of responsiveness.” The finding they put in bold is the budget and staffing limitation. The two largest employers, Barnes and Noble and Bed Bath and Beyond, are expected to be hit by the downturn, while the grocery and pharmacy chains among the top employers are considered essential and stay open.
06 Cutting the cord captions 1181–1475
1:19:39And if not then I will turn it back to Steve
1:19:46I believe Steve can proceed.
1:19:48All right Dave you can proceed.
1:19:51Great.
1:19:52Thank you.
1:19:52Making sure everybody can hear me.
1:19:54Just give me a thumbs up real real from the very go go.
1:19:59All right well thank you.
1:20:01Thank you Mr. Mayor and members of the Council
1:20:03for the opportunity to share with you our perspectives
1:20:07on what the city's current fiscal situation of going
1:20:10to cover that area here up front and that we're going to start
1:20:13talking a little bit about ultimately
1:20:16not only what the forecast shows but then also what
1:20:20the future holds in terms of this covered nineteen pandemic
1:20:24that we're all going right now.
1:20:26So this is the part is to talk about what
1:20:30your current fiscal situation is recovered 19.
1:20:35And as you will likely recall from the capper
1:20:37that a recently complete completed
1:20:39new had an opportunity to take a look
1:20:42about at a council meeting within the last couple
1:20:45of months.
1:20:46The city did finish with an operating deficit
1:20:49and its general fund of about eight hundred
1:20:51and fifty thousand dollars for fiscal 18 19
1:20:55the year that had completed back in June 2019
1:21:01and that was another year in which the city had experienced
1:21:06a gap a time when expenditures and transfers to other funds
1:21:14exceeded revenues but were and transfers in resources to help
1:21:20fund general fund operations.
1:21:22And this slide shows that historical trend with these
1:21:26blue columns are basically what the actual ending the reserve
1:21:30balance was as we started back in 2008 09 and then finishing
1:21:36in 2018 19 Over the years the city has drawn down its
1:21:41reserves more it's expended more than what it has
1:21:46taken in at its general fund.
1:21:48This solid blue line that you see here
1:21:52is your is the reserve goal which
1:21:54is 10 percent of annual operating tours
1:21:57which is lower than what the typical recommendation is
1:22:02by the Government Finance Officers Association
1:22:04a two month or 17 percent of annual operating expenditures
1:22:09in the general fund.
1:22:10So over time the agency has drawn down its general fund
1:22:15reserves and 2018 19 as you are well aware you finished
1:22:20with reserves that we're actually below zero as as you
1:22:25may be aware that you know two or three quarters of what
1:22:29the general fund operations spend its money on
1:22:33or people to provide those services
1:22:35and so 76 percent of your general fund expenditures
1:22:39go towards salaries and the benefits that are required
1:22:43for all of your employees that provide
1:22:46those services and 24 percent.
1:22:49In other words one quarter of the general fund
1:22:52pays for equipment and supplies that service tech services
1:22:57and professional services that are required to assist
1:22:59in its in its operations.
1:23:03One of the challenges of course over time
1:23:05is that with three quarters of your general fund
1:23:08being expended towards people that provide the services.
1:23:12Is that again recovered 19.
1:23:14We have this amazing employment market that we had
1:23:19and it was difficult to recruit and retain employees.
1:23:22And so maintaining competitive benefit to something
1:23:24that was really critical for the city
1:23:27even in light of the fiscal challenges that may make this.
1:23:32But that's just going to be a continued pressure
1:23:35in the future when we get through this crisis
1:23:38that we're currently living in right now.
1:23:41Your revenues on the other side of the coin you know almost two
1:23:46thirds of your general fund is funded through the various tax
1:23:50revenues that come out and we've exploded that piece of the chop
1:23:53pie so that you can see kind of how that is comprised
1:23:57so property taxes make up about a quarter
1:23:59of your of your general fund revenues
1:24:03on sales tax 18 percent utility tax 9 percent etc..
1:24:08And then the other items outside of taxes are moneys that you
1:24:12get from either the license fees other intergovernmental
1:24:17revenues that come in your general or your charges
1:24:21for services building permit planning permits any recreation
1:24:26programs that you'd have etc..
1:24:28I mean those are what.
1:24:29What are compressing your your general fund
1:24:32reserves or revenues.
1:24:34Well that brings up a concept about general revenue
1:24:39in general fund revenue diversification
1:24:42and typically what we see is that when there are cities that
1:24:44have less than 65 percent of their revenue
1:24:47general fund revenues one there's less than 65 percent
1:24:53or more in stable revenue source They're typically
1:24:57less able to withstand economic downturns
1:24:59or what that means is that if you start seeing areas
1:25:03such as sales tax real property transfer tax
1:25:06which are subject to the ebbs and flows of the real estate
1:25:09market you charges for services especially Development Services
1:25:13Development fees and other licenses
1:25:16and permits when those get to be a larger part of the pie.
1:25:21You end up really swinging with the economy a lot more.
1:25:26And so during the good times it's great.
1:25:29And during the downtime it really
1:25:31starts to have an impact.
1:25:33You know your current level is about 60 percent
1:25:36of the stable revenue sources and 40 percent
1:25:39of volatile Robbins authors which
1:25:41puts the general fund a little more of a risk in terms
1:25:44of the downtime you live at.
1:25:46You do well on the upside.
1:25:47But on the downside it really can have a dramatic impact.
1:25:52Well I think it's just providing context.
1:25:55Yes.
1:25:56Yeah you can go back to that slide.
1:26:00So we have very little control over most of the stable revenue
1:26:07I slices it looks like it Can you speak to which you know
1:26:12our ability to adjust some of the the
1:26:16what you're calling stable revenues.
1:26:21Yeah.
1:26:21Good good question.
1:26:22Thank you for that As you know property taxes
1:26:26you know really flat.
1:26:27Bye by the state constitution and Prop 13
1:26:31until there's very little that the city can do in terms
1:26:33of sweetening the pot in terms of property tax
1:26:35there are partial assessments that you could look out which
1:26:38specified uses but that area utility users tax does have
1:26:43some flexibility but I think I would also
1:26:46think that in many cases most of your utility user taxes
1:26:50are pretty much at the top of either
1:26:53what you are allowed by law or what
1:26:55the market would really bear.
1:26:57Business License Tax you do have the ability
1:26:59to make some changes there but anything that the tax requires
1:27:03a vote of the people on if it's a general tax that
1:27:05requires a 50 plus one 50 percent plus one.
1:27:11Approval at the ballot box to do that.
1:27:14And you're right.
1:27:15So you know the vehicle license fees intergovernmental revenues
1:27:18those are all pretty much decided
1:27:20mostly by it by other agencies.
1:27:22So there are only areas where you really have the ability
1:27:24to make some move are in those volatile revenue
1:27:27source with sales taxes you know the local transaction you use
1:27:33tax to the local sales tax measure something
1:27:35that helps the area out.
1:27:37But again there's some limitations in terms of what
1:27:40you can do there and it's subject to voter approval
1:27:43as is real property transfer tax which was the subject
1:27:47of Measure B I believe right.
1:27:49Proposition Right or the measure that
1:27:51was passed in the last few years that was set to really help
1:27:59create some better fiscal sustainability for the city
1:28:03as a result. So you're right.
1:28:05Just what I'd say is that you know the volatile revenue
1:28:07sources are the ones where you might be able to do
1:28:09a bit more stable revenue sources there's
1:28:11not much you can do unilaterally to make make adjustments there.
1:28:14So in simple math we take the real property transfer
1:28:17tax out which is 5 percent.
1:28:20We probably would be a 64 or 65 or 60 40 split
1:28:25like you want us to be rather sorry we
1:28:30would be to post because I've already popping up Yeah.
1:28:34But you know obviously we've got we've needed that revenue
1:28:38and that revenue is in the volatile side of the pie.
1:28:41So thank you.
1:28:43Yeah.
1:28:44And again if it's not a bad thing that facility have more
1:28:47ball Robbins forces it just comes with a little bit
1:28:49of extra risk.
1:28:49And what that typically does what agencies will typically do
1:28:53is they'll set their reserve levels
1:28:57and their minimum reserve threshold a little higher
1:28:59perhaps than what other agencies might do that have
1:29:03more stable revenue sources.
1:29:06So just to recap and provide some context in terms
1:29:10you know your financial reality you
1:29:12do have some very strong some very strong points
1:29:17with your your your revenues.
1:29:19You have a very strong property tax apportionment rate.
1:29:22The statewide average is around 13 to 15 percent level
1:29:27and yours is is very high much higher than that.
1:29:31I used to work for a city that had a 26 percent
1:29:34apportionment rate that was considered
1:29:36an embarrassment of riches.
1:29:37That's very positive when it comes to stable revenue source
1:29:41and allows you to capture a greater piece of the property
1:29:45tax pie that people pay.
1:29:48Based on their assessed valuation
1:29:50your real property transfer tax is
1:29:52providing you a diversified revenue source
1:29:54and that that's a positive.
1:29:57You know legislative relief that you
1:29:59got that allowed for your half cent
1:30:01local sales tax to not count against the 2 percent cap.
1:30:05That's very helpful and gives you a little bit more capacity
1:30:08in an area of a local sales tax rather you do have relatively
1:30:12low debt obligations and you have a lot of fiscal fiscally
1:30:17responsible provisions in your labor agreements you
1:30:19haven't necessarily given the whale the store as many other
1:30:22agencies have in terms of providing very lucrative post
1:30:26employment health care benefits and other areas like that
1:30:29but there are some challenges the city has depleted its
1:30:35reserves and the general fund over the years you know
1:30:40the opportunities to implement perhaps some new revenue new
1:30:42sources are pretty limited And frankly
1:30:46what that means is that the city is
1:30:47going to have to really take a
1:30:48fresh look at how much is the community
1:30:54willing to pay in terms of the service
1:30:57levels that are provided.
1:30:58And you're going to need to ensure that you're living
1:31:00within those means based on on the revenues
1:31:04that you're currently receiving.
1:31:06So you know there are some also additional challenges
1:31:09that you have as well.
1:31:11You stormwater assessment be currently the costs is greater
1:31:14than than the assessment fees and that's going to have to be
1:31:17addressed your utility user tax revenues by and large are
1:31:22maintaining their own however as more and more people cut
1:31:25the cord and go away from landlines even less using cell
1:31:32phone and more using Internet services which are not subject
1:31:34to the utility users tax that could be an issue as well
1:31:38as the fact of people cutting the cord as it relates to video
1:31:43services fewer people are with entity now or even satellite
1:31:49providers and are moving towards streaming their content online
1:31:53and that's going to have an impact on utility
1:31:56as your tax revenues over
1:31:57time let's keep lighting district of also
1:32:00in a similar situation from what our assessment
1:32:02fee that your current cost greater
1:32:04than those tax revenues.
1:32:06Your personal costs are continuing to grow.
1:32:10We have no increases in pension and health
1:32:12costs them which I'll talk about a little bit later especially
1:32:14in light of the the the covered nineteen pandemic
1:32:18that we're dealing with and the economic markets
1:32:20and how that might impact pension costs in the future.
1:32:24And then there are several infrastructure improvements
1:32:27that were identified in parks master plan
1:32:29and your paper management study that are currently funded
1:32:32below on what the levels were that were
1:32:34indicated in those two those we turn then to the future of.
1:32:40What does your five year forecast really show and again
1:32:43this is the baseline forecast that includes the property
1:32:47transfer tax revenues they were expected to receive from
1:32:50Measure B and currently that forecast and these lines that
1:32:53you're seeing here the red line is expenditures and transfer
1:32:57about and your the blue line is revenues and you know the city
1:33:06yourselves council members and staff work to find a way to be
1:33:11able to in this current fiscal year be able to create a budget
1:33:15that had revenues exceeding expenditures but the long range
1:33:20forecast shows that those will turn and primarily the reasons
1:33:24or the assumption about your pension costs and other health
1:33:29costs health care costs that
1:33:31could exceed a growth in revenue streams
1:33:35that might be seen in those in the future years
1:33:39And so as we look at this in a little different way
1:33:43I mean again this is all before this covered 19 pandemic
1:33:47that we're dealing with here is that the red bars
1:33:51on the left side show what the annual deficit is.
1:33:55That was related to those two lines that you saw earlier.
1:33:59And while your budget for 1920 in your forecast
1:34:02should during nominal less than two hundred
1:34:05thousand dollar surplus is the forecast
1:34:09does indicate that you will draw down your reserves again
1:34:12starting in 2020 21.
1:34:17Route 24 25 if no action were taken now
1:34:21I'm going to compare this now and I'm on the right hand side.
1:34:25This shows your three levels of different operating reserves
1:34:28of the minimum operating or short 10 percent
1:34:31the GFA way recommended reserve levels of 17 percent
1:34:35and what the city's minimum operating reserve is 10 percent
1:34:39off the emergency reserve that you've tried to institute as
1:34:43well and as you can see your reserve levels are currently
1:34:46below that and of course Kenneth Rubin forecast
1:34:50if no changes were made if it was
1:34:52scheduled to go below zero again starting in twenty three
1:34:56twenty four.
1:34:58However and what we'll be discussing a little bit
1:35:01is the concept of reductions cost reductions
1:35:07that were that are being proposed for the 2020 2021
1:35:11bucket and when we overlay those cost reductions into your model
1:35:16what does that look like.
1:35:17Well again pre covered 19.
1:35:21It appears that those human dollar cost reductions would
1:35:25serve the city very well in being
1:35:27able to write its fiscal ship.
1:35:29You see your surpluses then start growing
1:35:32and you're starting to put more money back into the reserves
1:35:36to grow those reserve levels up.
1:35:38And with the forecast it would show that you would have
1:35:41recovered from basically at 0 2 increasing your reserve
1:35:46levels to the 17 percent minimum reserve level that recommended
1:35:51by the government finance option both the Asian
1:35:54and it's starting to get closer towards your
1:35:57your desired reserve levels which
The revenue diagnosis identified erosion that has nothing to do with the pandemic.
Asked what the city could adjust, the consultant said property tax is fixed by Proposition 13 and new or higher taxes need a vote. He listed strengths: a high property tax apportionment rate, the transfer tax, low debt, and labor agreements without lucrative retiree health benefits.
The city ended 2018-19 with a general fund operating deficit of about $850,000 and reserves below zero, against its own 10 percent goal and the 17 percent the Government Finance Officers Association recommends. About 76 percent of general fund spending goes to salaries and benefits, and about 60 percent of revenue comes from stable sources, which the consultant said leaves the city more exposed to downturns.
The first: fewer people use landlines and “more [are] using internet services which are not subject to the utility users tax.”
The second: “people cutting the cord as it relates to video services — fewer people are with [a cable] entity now, or even satellite providers, and are moving toward streaming their content online.”
So “that's going to have an impact on utility users tax revenues over time.”
The landscape and lighting district was named as “in a similar situation — [the] assessment fee… current cost[s are] greater than those tax revenues.”
And the growth side: “personnel costs are continuing to grow,” with further increases coming in pension and health costs.
Plus “several infrastructure improvements… identified in [the] parks master plan and your pave[ment] management study that are currently funded below” the required levels.
The consultant presented all of these as conditions that predate the pandemic.
The pre-pandemic five-year forecast showed reserves drawn down again from 2020-21 if nothing changed. With the proposed $2 million in reductions, the consultant said, reserves would recover toward the 17 percent level.
The consultant identifies pressures that predate the pandemic: utility users tax revenue at risk as people drop landlines and cable for internet and streaming, a landscape and lighting assessment that no longer covers its costs, rising personnel costs, and parks and pavement needs funded below plan.
07 Nothing from the relief fund captions 1476–1936
1:36:01is equivalent to basically almost
1:36:03three months of annual operating expenditures.
1:36:06So the two million dollars and cost reductions which you're
1:36:10talking about here at the end of our presentation
1:36:13would serve you well in this in this current environment
1:36:17in the environment that we were in prior to this whole March
1:36:2016th this timeframe.
1:36:22And so again prior to that you know the long range forecast
1:36:26there's some areas where the forecast needs
1:36:28to be sweetened a little bit.
1:36:31There was not a an assumption for a recession in there
1:36:36and we believe that separate from what we're dealing
1:36:40with right now is that there would need to be a recession
1:36:42area impact and there it should really also
1:36:46be extended to 10 years you saw basically a five year forecast
1:36:50and we recommend that it be extended to 10 years
1:36:52because your local sales tax rate
1:36:54will expire in 2027 if it's not renewed
1:36:58by a vote of the people.
1:36:59And that's good for you to see what that looks like.
1:37:02If that were not to be able to continue so that you're looking
1:37:05at the long term the 2 million dollars does help solve
1:37:10that structural gap problem.
1:37:13And if any additional revenue sources were identified frankly
1:37:18they're very limited and the and they
1:37:21would need to be implemented time
1:37:22here to avoid depleting general fund reserves
1:37:25even if a we're able to be done.
1:37:28But the twenty two million dollar reductions
1:37:30that are being proposed for 2021 would
1:37:34definitely help you in the current environment
1:37:39prior to covered 19.
1:37:41But let me stop there.
1:37:42We're going to transition them to the code
1:37:43to 19 impacts on what we see as some of the fiscal impact.
1:37:47But let me see if there's any questions based
1:37:48on the information that we just see if no one else has got
1:37:56questions I I would like to acknowledge I think it was
1:38:00your slide with the pre to the 2 million dollar cuts
1:38:04that the the negative bars below this point yet.
1:38:08That was at the very negative rather ago.
1:38:11That's very that's very reminiscent of the curves
1:38:13that Mr. Resi was presenting to us back in February
1:38:18with you know without the 2 million dollar cuts.
1:38:22If you go to the slide with the 2 million dollar cuts that
1:38:26again is also similar to Mr. PSI had three curves of one
1:38:31million dollar cut curve a two million
1:38:33dollar cut in a three million dollar cut curve
1:38:36and the 2 million dollar cut curve did did end in 20 25
1:38:42and did reflect the.
1:38:44Again what we're seeing here on the left side
1:38:46the this low reduction in increases
1:38:50to the reserve over time.
1:38:53So this is this is very similar to the information
1:38:56that we received back in February
1:38:58and I have to very very similar because Mark have been very
1:39:01helpful to us in terms of providing us with the forecast
1:39:05What we can understand from about is
1:39:08that we're getting behind that.
1:39:09I do acknowledge Mark think about natural Forgive
1:39:20me if that was the question had a hard time finding it.
1:39:23No.
1:39:23Holly somehow your voice is echoing to significantly
1:39:27and so all we're doing is a big vibration
1:39:31So Mr. fidelity go ahead Yeah.
1:39:34Thank you.
1:39:35There's something so many issues and so many questions
1:39:39I'm not sure where they all fit but I want to throw a few out
1:39:42that I had written down just one for now.
1:39:45You say Steve that it's very very good that we have
1:39:49this 2 million dollar cut from our budget for the upcoming
1:39:54budget years And I would say it's an unnecessary
1:40:01and had we not had we not done that absent what
1:40:06we need to do going forward we talk
1:40:09about our profile solvency.
1:40:13I just want to bring up the the B word the b
1:40:16word would we be closer to bankruptcy had to be not done
1:40:21the 2 million dollar cut I know that we don't
1:40:25have a high debt threshold which is a positive thing for cities.
1:40:29Well give me your view on that a preview of coming attractions.
1:40:34I actually helped him for exactly about
1:40:37I didn't know when that question should I hold that back
1:40:41then and let you go forward.
1:40:43Track where you to take with you if we can address that.
1:40:47I just think we're you know we're closer to bad news
1:40:51than good and I just wanted to get your view on that.
1:40:55Understood all older affect hearing
1:40:56into making actually Any other questions or should I. Yes.
1:41:06Michelle.
1:41:06Michelle Okamoto has a question.
1:41:09Yes at my My question was going back to that same slide
1:41:15where we implement two million dollar cuts
1:41:18and how that translates into the future What
1:41:22exactly were we predicting with our pension costs
1:41:27in this scenario.
1:41:29Yeah I would change if the discount rate changed.
1:41:34Yeah.
1:41:34The the forecast incorporated the assumptions
1:41:39that were based on the actuarial study that was completed
1:41:42by Purves and provided to the city in roughly the August
1:41:462009 in era where it assumed that you would have
1:41:51some growth of of your pension costs
1:41:55until those are incorporated in there
1:41:57in the factually What led to if I can go back
1:42:00to the ugly part of this slide.
1:42:03That's what led to that continuing
1:42:05widening gap between expenditures and revenues.
1:42:09The it does not incorporate any assumption
1:42:12related to significant market reductions.
1:42:16I currently see him right now but there's like a roller
1:42:20coaster on a day to day basis.
1:42:22So it did assume that Purves would hit its 7 percent
1:42:25discount rate over the next few years
1:42:28in terms of a return on investment but did
1:42:32include rising pension costs in accordance with what
1:42:36the actuarial study indicated.
1:42:39So which was about basically a rise of about 0 2 to 6 percent
1:42:44over the next several years.
1:42:46I'm in terms of what you're paying for pension costs.
1:42:49Okay thank you Any other questions from council
1:42:56members of able senator Quito.
1:42:59No thank you.
1:43:04Okay.
1:43:04So the world has changed in the last month.
1:43:09I feel like it's changing every day doesn't it.
1:43:12You know when I appreciated the council member that I mentioned
1:43:17you know all the steps that are currently being taken locally
1:43:21that we've looked at this and we've
1:43:24been addressing this over the last couple of weeks
1:43:26and been meeting with several cities up and down the state
1:43:30to really kind our finger on the pulse of what the impacts are
1:43:33going to be for them.
1:43:36And also with our staff and some of which you know
1:43:39are here economists by trade are trying
1:43:43to do some of that crystal ball gazing
1:43:44and try to identify what's going on here
1:43:46and what are the potential impacts.
1:43:48And it really starts with this whole concept
1:43:50of all of us being sheltered in place in order for us
1:43:52to get over this incredible disease.
1:43:55Virus that we're all fire fighting right now
1:43:57and you know the number of cases continue
1:44:00to rise on a daily basis.
1:44:03You know there's some thoughts nationally and statewide
1:44:07and regionally we're starting to get
1:44:09closer towards the curve is starting
1:44:11to get a little bit more.
1:44:12And it's not growing as exponentially
1:44:14as it was in this whole period here between March 18
1:44:18through March 30th where you know the steps that we are
1:44:21taking to flatten the curve are being helpful
1:44:25but the curve is still rising.
1:44:27And so you know clearly in light of that you know most
1:44:31of the United States now and this was updated just two
1:44:34hours before we we started this council meeting tonight
1:44:38most of the United States is in some type
1:44:40of a stay home slash shelter in place type of an environment.
1:44:44But what was very dramatic was the unemployment numbers that
1:44:48came out from the March 28 report that was released
1:44:53earlier just this week devastating numbers and the box
1:44:57that you see down the bottom left hand corner here
1:44:59really tell that story that during the Great Recession
1:45:02that we all lived through from 2007 to 2009 ish timeframe
1:45:07and then we had the residual effect facilities afterwards
1:45:10we lost more jobs in these last two weeks
1:45:14with this pandemic in terms of volume of unemployment claims
1:45:18then over the two years during the Great Recession.
1:45:22And that is very telling in terms
1:45:24of what the potential impacts could be animals.
1:45:26Clearly the impetus behind some of the the federal stimulus
1:45:30package to see if there was some way
1:45:32to try to offset some about you're
1:45:35aware of that two trillion dollars.
1:45:37I'm not going to go into depth much in here
1:45:38and then slide in terms of the assistance that was made
1:45:42for individuals but suffice it to say
1:45:45that some of this assistance is going to be
1:45:47helpful to to several folks.
1:45:50However the impacts will not be felt immediately
1:45:55and will not address people that are currently
1:45:57either unemployed or underemployed
1:45:59by businesses needing to shut down part of this.
1:46:03This is pandemic responsive.
1:46:05We have to flatten the curve And so as you know in California
1:46:10the shelter in place was put into effect in mid-March
1:46:14through at least the end of April
1:46:17You know and the governor is currently
1:46:19trying to figure out how much longer that's going to go.
1:46:21We all probably have our own ideas about how long
1:46:24the shelter in place is really going to last.
1:46:27But on the left what you're seeing
1:46:28is what the governor's order included
1:46:30in terms of what was allowed to remain open
1:46:33and what was needing to be closed.
1:46:37And so you know gas station the central businesses that Nancy
1:46:41mentioned earlier grocery stores banks et cetera
1:46:44those are you know still open.
1:46:48But we have to think about this also
1:46:50from a city's perspective in terms of what
1:46:52does that mean for sales tax.
1:46:53What does it mean for transient occupancy tax.
1:46:55What does it mean for all these other types of revenue sources
1:46:58that we're reliant upon here.
1:47:01You know there's a lot of things that are needing that have
1:47:03had to have been closed.
1:47:06Per the governor's order and even some of the subsequent
1:47:10you know shelter in place orders that were just released
1:47:13by the six Bay Area counties that include Contra Costa
1:47:16County But what's really close.
1:47:18I mean you're we're seeing shopping centers for the most
1:47:20part being closed and non grocery retail stores
1:47:24are pretty much being closed.
1:47:27There's a lot of services a lot of several small long chain
1:47:30restaurants just not been able to make a go at it
1:47:32and they've had to close as well.
1:47:35And so the impacts that we're seeing from this
1:47:37are have the potential to be devastating in terms
1:47:40of the revenues upon which cities
1:47:42rely to provide services.
1:47:45You know this is a graph that focuses mostly
1:47:48on the unemployment cuts in California
1:47:50that really is exacerbated by those things that
1:47:54are really closed.
1:47:55That was in that previous slide and and more and more we're
1:47:59seeing that as businesses are needing to close
1:48:03or as people are unemployed they stop spending
1:48:06money on headcount or delivery and they
1:48:09start going to the store and you know making bread at home.
1:48:13You flour yeast are not available.
1:48:15We won't go into toilet paper but all
1:48:17of these different types of things
1:48:19the impact that are having at the local grocery
1:48:22stores people are needing to are saving money
1:48:26and not spend as much on the outside
1:48:27because they don't know what the future holds.
1:48:29And that has a potentially devastating impact in terms
1:48:32to be of the impact revenues.
1:48:35And so as we have talked with other agencies
1:48:38across the state to figure out what
1:48:40some of the potential impacts are and we've talked
1:48:42with the League of California cities and some of you
1:48:44know Michael Coleman who is the league's guru financial guru
1:48:49we've had direct conversations with him to help try to read
1:48:52some of these tea leaves.
1:48:53We see six big areas where there potential impact
1:48:58to city revenues in the first area is in property taxes.
1:49:03Now you would think that under the Teeter plan which
1:49:05some of you are aware of that.
1:49:07Well we're gonna collect what whatever
1:49:09has been assessed this year and that could be true.
1:49:12But if people are not able to make their property tax
1:49:15payments it could be a cash flow issue in terms of not receiving
1:49:18up on time and maybe not receiving it until when they
1:49:22are able to pay and that could be potentially next year
1:49:24even though that includes penalties.
1:49:27But clearly you know lower construction and home sales
1:49:30are more ultimately going to hit some mental roll payments that
1:49:33may not hit today but that might hit tomorrow
1:49:37next year if if that trend continues
1:49:40and if the longer term impact is of people not buying which
1:49:45we've had a white hot real estate
1:49:47market as we all know over the last few years in the Bay Area.
1:49:53You know we could see ourselves back in 2009 10
1:49:56timeframe when there were multiple commercial
1:49:58developments and residential developments that were
1:50:02requesting reassessments of their
1:50:05their assessed value to reduce their property tax.
1:50:08So we're gonna have to watch that in terms of what happened
1:50:11to the real estate market that somewhat will be
1:50:13dependent upon how long this shelter in place was
1:50:16and what the depth of the unemployment
1:50:18is going to be over time real property transfer tax
1:50:23that you know that would also have an impact as well.
1:50:25Mayor.
1:50:25Yeah.
1:50:26Sorry.
1:50:27It's okay.
1:50:27Can you go back one slide.
1:50:28I want to the Prop 8.
1:50:30Can you refresh my memory what what type of what
1:50:35what has to happen to trigger a prop 8 reassess Sure.
1:50:39Yeah.
1:50:39So so two things firstly that an individual property owner has
1:50:45the right to request an appeal of an assessed value
1:50:51with the county assessor's office.
1:50:56And that triggers in the assessor's office
1:50:59to go out and take a look at the property
1:51:00take a look at the value of that property
1:51:03and determine whether or not there is
1:51:05an impairment to the assessed valuation of that property
1:51:08and if it's below with the prop 13 tax assessment
1:51:11basis for that property the assessor
1:51:14can approve a reassessment to reduce that amount now
1:51:19without assessor's office then needs to do
1:51:22so let's say the assessor comes out and says
1:51:23and this is what happened in 2010 11
1:51:26when a lot of commercial properties
1:51:28appealed the assessed valuation of their property
1:51:32because of the recession we were in.
1:51:33We saw write downs of 20 to 40 percent of commercial values.
1:51:37And so when it was reduced let's take a number like 20 percent
1:51:40when it's reduced to 20 percent each year.
1:51:43The assessor's office will do another reassessment
1:51:46about property and might be a direct assessment
1:51:48of that property by having an appraiser go out
1:51:50and appraiser or it could be done
1:51:53more collectively if it's a whole bunch
1:51:54of residential units.
1:51:56And we'll reset the assessed duration
1:51:59and make it go back up until the time it reaches its prop 13
1:52:04cap though Prop 13 property values go up
1:52:08subject to a cap of 2 percent per year
1:52:10based on California's UI.
1:52:12And so if the Prop 8 assessment was done
1:52:15a reassessment was done and dropped it by 20 percent.
1:52:18If that property went back up another 25 percent
1:52:20let's say that next year.
1:52:22Read completely rebounded.
1:52:24It would only go as high as the.
1:52:26The assessed value would be done under Prop 13.
1:52:30That makes sense.
1:52:31It does.
1:52:32Mr. fidelity we're still muted.
1:52:41Sorry I'm fine.
1:52:51Do you have any questions Mr. FDLE.
1:52:54No I don't.
1:52:54I'm fine.
1:52:55Okay.
1:52:56Thanks.
1:52:57Yep.
1:52:58Okay Steve thank you.
1:52:58You can proceed Sure.
1:53:01So we just mentioned the real property transfer tax
1:53:03and especially now that this is very pertinent to you Measure
1:53:07D if we see property sales slowing of course the transfer
1:53:10tax to be hit potentially hard And that's typically
1:53:16paid to the city on a monthly basis
1:53:18from the from the the County Tax Collectors office.
1:53:23Sales tax and local transactions tax
1:53:26we've had some conversations with the HDL companies
1:53:28and muni services to find out kind of what they're seeing
1:53:31and what they're expecting.
1:53:32Clearly there's gonna be a hit in this next next three
1:53:36months in terms of the businesses that are closed.
1:53:40If it continues and lingers longer as the unemployment
1:53:45rates continue as they are and we start hitting
1:53:47a deep recession like we had back in 2009
1:53:51we could end up seeing sales tax being reduced by as
1:53:53much as 25 percent over time.
1:53:57And so we're just going to have to watch that.
1:53:59As you may be aware the governor was at Friday again.
1:54:03Things change so quickly the governor allowed or sales tax
1:54:09payers that pay sales tax less than a million dollars annually
1:54:14to be able to defer their tax payment for the fourth quarter
1:54:18or the fourth quarter the second quarter of the calendar year
1:54:22to July 1st.
1:54:23So there could be some cash flow issues related
1:54:27to the delayed payment and receipt of sales taxes
1:54:32and that will likely reduce the amount of the sales tax
1:54:37I'm installment that committed to you
1:54:40in the April May timeframe.
1:54:42So that is going to have to be watched very closely in terms
1:54:45of cash flow and means printing the tax asset sales tax
1:54:50or property tax at a sales tax.
1:54:53If I said it's probably not a sales tax I OK now I get it.
1:54:58Thank you.
1:54:58Yeah.
1:54:59There are some county comptroller's
1:55:02offices and Tax Collectors office like San Mateo County.
1:55:05Just yesterday indicated that they would allow
1:55:09for a one month delay in the receipt
1:55:11and the payment of property tax without penalty.
1:55:14I'm sorry I'm not aware of the Contra Costa county tax
1:55:17collector who's done take them out move but me tell County did
1:55:20and so that's another thing that's
1:55:21going to have to be watched when it comes to property taxes.
1:55:24Again if you could just temporarily
1:55:27delay it doesn't necessarily mean people
1:55:29aren't going to be paying otherwise.
1:55:31As a result of those moves to Quixote if there was
1:55:35a significant amount of hotels and emails Reno
1:55:38this could have a little bit more dramatic impact
1:55:40but we're seeing you know travel has just stopped People are
1:55:44doing this to be able to meet with clients now
1:55:46and and for business travel and so TRT revenues are dropping
1:55:50business license tax revenue has the potential to drop as well
1:55:54just depending on what we end up seeing with respect to business
1:55:56closures and if they stay just temporarily closed
1:55:59or if they end up having to shutter their doors.
1:56:02As a result of the the length of the shelter in place orders
1:56:05that are in place and then recreation programs.
1:56:08You know I mean people are having to stay home.
1:56:10So it's kind of hard to run recreation programs
1:56:13in the traditional way.
1:56:14You know the city of Pleasanton recently converted some
1:56:17of their programs online but still
1:56:20they're just doing that to try to maintain services as much
1:56:25as possible in the community knowing that the revenues will
1:56:27not necessarily flow from that.
1:56:29But you know I mean a lot of cities
1:56:31are having to look at just issuing rebates.
1:56:34Some agencies are actually making the bold decision
1:56:37that you know what.
1:56:39Over recreation programs even through the summer
1:56:43are gonna be closed.
1:56:44I mean that has a dramatic impact especially
1:56:46those programs that relate to daycares summer camp
1:56:49programs could have a really devastating impact in terms
1:56:53of the recreation programs that are provided
1:56:56and the revenues that come along with those.
1:57:00So you know we're also seeing some cities that are also
1:57:02increasing some of their costs where
1:57:04either from fire and Hamas responses
1:57:06or relates to this this pandemic.
1:57:10I mean please support some agencies are being requested
1:57:13to open emergency shelters that are incurring some costs that
1:57:17otherwise would have maintained their facilities
1:57:21closed during this during this crisis.
1:57:23I'm operational and technology costs and some agencies
1:57:27are having to give their employees paid time
1:57:30off on which maybe there's no increase in costs
1:57:33but there may be a loss in productivity
1:57:35and just not trying to figure out how
1:57:37do we move forward from here.
1:57:39So there are some cost increase now that this is good news
1:57:44but more bad news as relates to the stimulus package
1:57:47as it relates for local cities and especially
1:57:49the city five adults.
1:57:51Reno is that the stimulus package
1:57:53did have some components in it the largest of which
1:57:57was the 4 for local agencies was corona virus relief fund that
1:58:02were provided about 500 billion dollars
1:58:04relief to local agencies.
1:58:06I'm sorry a hundred and fifty billion dollars of relief.
1:58:08Khalifi Yeah the state of California
1:58:10will receive about fifteen point three billion
1:58:12of that and 45 percent of that has
1:58:15the opportunity to go down to the cities
1:58:19over 500000 population.
1:58:22And so unfortunately there's not going
1:58:24to be any relief from the coronavirus relief fund
1:58:27as it relates to the city of El Serino Frankly most
1:58:30cities in California and some of these other areas
1:58:33may have some some relief but you know the bottom line is
1:58:37what we're what we're instructing and recommending
1:58:41to our cities to do is that any increase in costs that you
1:58:45experience that are above the normal costs
1:58:48that you wouldn't have normally incurred without the pandemic
1:58:51having taken place just to make sure that your your house
1:58:55is in order as relates to FEMA reimbursements
1:58:57and that really comes back to our next slide
1:58:58about how cities are addressing these negative fiscal impacts.
1:59:03Make sure that you're capturing your costs
1:59:05and tracking those incremental cost separately so that if any
1:59:08of the areas of relief that were on the previously mentioned
1:59:13slide come to fruition and allow for reimbursement of some
1:59:18of those costs you'll at least have your house in order
1:59:20to make those and I understand from Mark
1:59:22that you're currently doing that and so that's that's good.
1:59:25And making sure that you're doing that but there's
1:59:27some other areas you know it may require you to reassess how
The federal package was explained, and the finding is that none of it reaches the city.
The structure: the largest local component was “the coronavirus relief fund” providing “a hundred and fifty billion dollars of relief to local agencies.”
California's share: “about fifteen point three billion.”
Then the threshold: “45 percent of that has the opportunity to go down to the cities over 500,000 population.”
So: “unfortunately there's not going to be any relief from the coronavirus relief fund as it relates to the city of El Cerrito. Frankly, most cities in California.”
Later federal relief reaches municipalities of all sizes directly and brings the city $8.8 million (2 Mar 2021).
The consultant said more jobs had been lost, by volume of unemployment claims, in the previous two weeks than in two years of the Great Recession. He named property tax, transfer tax, sales tax, hotel tax, business license tax and recreation revenue as exposed, with sales tax possibly falling by as much as 25 percent in a deep recession.
The advice meanwhile: “any increase in costs that you experience that are above the normal costs that you wouldn't have normally incurred without the pandemic” should be tracked for reimbursement.
The shelter order ran “mid-March through at least the end of April,” with the governor “currently trying to figure out how much longer.”
A councilmember recalled that February's forecast had shown curves for $1 million, $2 million and $3 million in cuts, with the $2 million path ending in 2025.
A councilmember's reading of it: “what we can understand from” that is “we're getting behind.”
Fadelli asked whether the city would be closer to bankruptcy without the $2 million cut; the consultant held the answer for later in the presentation. Pardue-Okimoto asked what the forecast assumed for pensions: the actuarial study's rising costs and a 7 percent CalPERS return, with no assumption of a market decline.
A councilmember then asked: “what has to happen to trigger a Prop 8 reassess[ment]?”
The answer: “an individual property owner has the right to request an appeal of an assessed value with the county assessor's office.”
What follows: the assessor will “go out and take a look at the property… and determine whether or not there is an impairment to the assessed valuation of that property — and if it's below the Prop 13 tax assessment basis… the assessor can approve a reassessment to reduce that amount.”
So in a falling market, property tax can decline under Proposition 8, one appeal at a time. The consultant recalled commercial write-downs of 20 to 40 percent after appeals in 2010-11.
The local share of the federal relief fund goes to cities over 500,000, so “there's not going to be any relief… as it relates to the city of El Cerrito. Frankly, most cities in California.” Later federal relief reaches municipalities of all sizes and brings the city $8.8 million (2 Mar 2021).
08 No reserve to weather it captions 1937–2300
1:59:30much you're either allocating over
1:59:32to year to your internal service forms
1:59:35or even reassessing your cost allocation
1:59:37formula of general fund costs that are going to other funds.
1:59:41You may need to reduce the scope of some capital improvement
1:59:44projects because some of those projects
1:59:47may have a long term fiscal impact on the general fund
1:59:51or otherwise the general fund is having to supplement sources
1:59:55such as gas tax and sales tax revenues that come from fuel
1:59:59that help of let's say street overlay projects.
2:00:02So there may be some some need to defer some of those projects
2:00:06as well as some significant maintenance in order
2:00:10to cope with some of the revenue impacts
2:00:13that we're seeing also to other areas of workforce
2:00:16reductions I know that you've already taken steps to do that.
2:00:19I'm going to draw that on a later slide here.
2:00:22You know some agencies are doing temporary furloughs.
2:00:26Or just complete layoffs of staff
2:00:29that are not needed during the shelter in place times
2:00:33that we're currently in.
2:00:34And then operational reductions just canceling various programs
2:00:38and you know one of the other parts that comes along
2:00:40with this rocket this this area of how they're dressing up
2:00:44is one recommendation from us that it's as you start closing
2:00:50some programs or reducing service levels you need to come
2:00:53up with a transition plan to return service
2:00:56model back to where they were.
2:00:57And so understanding what the sequencing the priority
2:01:00of those are based on understanding what
2:01:03the costs are of of implementing those
2:01:06is going to be something that's critical to do during this town
2:01:09downtime in anticipation of when we're finally able to get out
2:01:13of our home and try to return to some type of life that
2:01:16resembles normal again.
2:01:18So So with that let me pause and see if there's
2:01:21any additional questions on this whole section
2:01:23before I start getting into the impacts that we see it for.
2:01:26For also read on what this could mean to your forecast.
2:01:29Steve on that last note that you made
2:01:31the recommendation for a transition
2:01:33plan to reinstate services.
2:01:35What what would that look like I mean that's somewhat
2:01:38that's sort of like identifying staff that needs to be rehired
2:01:43and identifying buildings that need to be reopened if they've
2:01:47been closed for some period time type of maintenance that may
2:01:49have to be done on a h h vac system that's been
2:01:52shuttered in place for months.
2:01:55What are some of the things that you're thinking of when you say
2:01:58a transition plan to reinstate services
2:02:01going ferry in a word yes director where you really are.
2:02:05But let me let me give you an example.
2:02:08Recreation programs that may be shuttered and shut down
2:02:12through the summer months you may be having to lay off
2:02:15some recreation leaders recreation
2:02:17coordinators you know those types of positions
2:02:19maybe even some full time work reasons
2:02:21to deal with some of those issues.
2:02:23As you start then thinking about okay if we're if this is not
2:02:27going to happen we're not gonna be able to start
2:02:29back up until the fall.
2:02:30What areas should we be looking at and reopening again.
2:02:34Do we start with contract classes.
2:02:36Do we start with after school programs
2:02:39you know how do we need to do that.
2:02:40And then and then understanding what the staffing plan
2:02:43is for that then because you have now
2:02:46furloughed or laid off perhaps staff
2:02:49associated with those programs.
2:02:50What does the sequencing and bringing them back
2:02:53we may need to bring the coordinators back early
2:02:55because they need to start planning those programs
2:02:57and get those ready to go.
2:02:58We'll need to bring the admin staff back and help
2:03:01us turn back on the recreation registration application
2:03:06so that people can start registering for classes
2:03:08again until you'll need to think about
2:03:10and do all those things in a sequence
2:03:13and the same thing would hold true to facilities
2:03:15maintenance parks that may be closed.
2:03:18You know those types of impact Great thank you.
2:03:22Anyone else have questions at this time.
2:03:25I just have a comment that if we did if we were to shut down
2:03:29recreation for the summer that's going to prevent
2:03:32a ton of people from going back to work because recreation
2:03:35child care for myself my family and so many people in the city
2:03:41just wanted to throw that out there that as soon as we can
2:03:45possibly start up the summer camps that will get
2:03:48people back to work Thank you.
2:03:55Comfortable with fidelity.
2:03:57I think customer be able to hear your voice.
2:04:00Go ahead.
2:04:01Yeah I think Rochelle what you just said points
2:04:06out the importance of our not only reinstating the programs
2:04:14but planning for reinstating the program.
2:04:16Phyllis all coordinated because people don't just
2:04:22say OK we're starting the class again
2:04:24tomorrow and everybody returning.
2:04:26It's not that simple they may have found other alternatives.
2:04:32They may not be coming back or maybe
2:04:37they told their friends how wonderful our program was.
2:04:40And there's twice as many people coming back.
2:04:43So you know we don't really we don't
2:04:45have such a good handle on the reregistration
2:04:53until it happens.
2:04:54I think This is Nancy just jumping everyone.
2:05:01I think also you know part of that planning for reopening
2:05:06is thinking through and prioritizing what
2:05:09are those programs that ought to be brought back on line first
2:05:13in figuring out a natural logical sequence based
2:05:16on demand based on cost recovery based on all of these factors.
2:05:20And so I think that the environment then
2:05:23demand is certainly part of it is just a little bit
2:05:26of an uncertain timeframe here because we don't know how long
2:05:29we're going to be sheltering in place
2:05:31and what that's going to look like.
2:05:32So figuring what you're reopening plan is
2:05:35and what to prioritize I think is
2:05:36to the point Steve was suggesting when
2:05:40I talk to people I know you have children who are
2:05:44in those programs or were in those programs
2:05:48and I think what are you doing now.
2:05:50Because some of them are still going to work
2:05:53and they are doing it by like my next door neighbors.
2:05:59There's a husband and a wife they're
2:06:01both working full time still.
2:06:03But one of them I think goes in the morning.
2:06:06They don't actually go anywhere I think one morning in one
2:06:09with Jay but they're working out of their house.
2:06:15And then you know the other one will watch the children.
2:06:19Well that's happening and I know my my grandson he's they've
2:06:26made is what I would call an emergency childcare
2:06:33school which is really a thing it's called T.K. AND it's run
2:06:41out of their house now instead of out of the normal facility
2:06:45and it's just a few kids that are coming.
2:06:48So that's a different facility but you
2:06:53can put any label you want on it it's still the same concept.
2:06:57So how are those kids going to come back to the facility.
2:07:04Who knows.
2:07:06So it'll it'll be an adjustment for at minimum Great Council
2:07:17over until Thank you Mayor.
2:07:21I wanted to find out if the yesterday the National League
2:07:26of Cities sent a letter to Congress requesting
2:07:30for the fourth emergency appropriations bill for cities
2:07:35and that includes all cities.
2:07:38So I believe radio is included in that.
2:07:41Is that correct.
2:07:43My understanding of what the NLC who've requested.
2:07:46Yes.
2:07:48OK.
2:07:48And that would very helpful to you
2:07:50and a whole bunch of others that we've really got left out.
2:07:54Yeah.
2:07:54So I appreciate our congressman to support this bill
2:08:00and I'm hoping we can have our residents make phone calls
2:08:04to Nancy Pelosi and to our congressman
2:08:09to make sure that cities for the size of El lender and residents
2:08:15know how important this fourth emergency
2:08:19appropriations bill is or small cities like Elsa Salvador.
2:08:24Well said council member they're council members I was just
2:08:28gonna say that that is one of their priority
2:08:30is that they accept that every working out.
2:08:32So that is good news.
2:08:35If I may hear just what when when I came to thinking about
2:08:39is everything we're talking about involves staffing
2:08:45and there was a time Nancy when I I'm one of the newer council
2:08:50members on on board and looked at the old strategic list
2:08:55of what our goals should be And I think
2:08:59I told you I thought they were pretty good
2:09:01just the way they were.
2:09:02And I think that exercise is pretty important to take for us
2:09:07because we're talking about services.
2:09:10What services do we want our city
2:09:12to provide and whatever services we decide like council member.
2:09:18Rochelle Pardue Okamoto mentioned
2:09:20if that's one of our Teamster priorities
2:09:24we need to have people there to to employ those services.
2:09:29But we may have other service You know we have other higher
2:09:32priorities and safety priorities and I think the money is
2:09:39with the staffing Oh you know the exercise of reiterating
2:09:43our priorities and then getting ready for staffing and then
2:09:47as you say the plan to come back on we
2:09:49will need to know how to be staff if we do.
2:09:52And I think that's a key component to all of this is
2:09:55getting ready and looking now.
2:09:57Now that we've cut 2 million dollars in staffing and re
2:10:00creating how we staff it just make a comment
2:10:05this is Nancy sorry just jumping in that Yeah I think that we're
2:10:09or obviously in difficult but also interesting times
2:10:13I think that there's a lot of ingenuity and innovation
2:10:16that's actually happening out of necessity.
2:10:19And so as the city is contemplating the future
2:10:23and how to come back I think that this
2:10:25is an opportunity kind of by force simply not alone.
2:10:30And I'm sorry no.
2:10:30But just generally say you know what are the top services
2:10:34and priorities for our community that we
2:10:36need to deliver ourselves.
2:10:37What can we do differently and how
2:10:39might change our service model to still meet
2:10:42the needs of our community.
2:10:44And it's not easy work but it really
2:10:46requires that commitment.
2:10:47And I think that the information that we obtained earlier on
2:10:51in the update to the strategic planning process
2:10:53would be helpful but it's not.
2:10:55It doesn't have a magic wall right.
2:10:57It just is an input that is important conversation
2:11:00for later cases.
2:11:05Gregg and I want to echo that that the 2 million dollars is
2:11:12that we have quote unquote cut the we've talked about I think
2:11:18several of the council members have said in the past tense
2:11:21that we've cut it.
2:11:22We've actually not taken that action yet.
2:11:24It's proposed for us.
2:11:26And so that you're that you are assuming that it
2:11:31has been a fait accompli.
2:11:33I applaud you but it is it is actually not occurred yet.
2:11:37And so keep down the back your mind as we go forward
2:11:40with our actions tonight.
2:11:42Thanks Without.
2:11:50Let me let me wrap up for presentation here
2:11:53and we'll talk about with some of the fiscal impact
2:11:55we fee that in your city.
2:11:59I just wanted to bring this slide back up again because you
2:12:02know there are some very good strengths
2:12:05that you have in terms of being able to buffet this storm.
2:12:09But the hardest part of this is that you her uses troubles.
2:12:12There's not there's no reason for her
2:12:14to be able to buffet this storm for the general fund.
2:12:17And so that really leads to where the need to really watch
2:12:21closely what's happening with your your revenues
2:12:25and your general fund and making and being prepared
2:12:28to make some quick decisions.
2:12:30Thoughtful yes quick decisions to ensure that you were
2:12:33able to go through that with prepared the slide really
2:12:40summarized what what I see as the top five revenue
2:12:43sources that really have the most unpredictable impact
2:12:46as a result of June 19 for the reasons
2:12:48that I've already mentioned tonight.
2:12:50And they go from property taxes and sales taxes
2:12:53all through the items that you see here
2:12:55that I think I've mentioned them and I don't have to necessarily
2:12:58beat this down but you know every everything that's
2:13:01on the slide right here you know that that ends up being about
2:13:0655 to 60 percent of your general fund revenue
2:13:09that are subject to some potential negative impacts
2:13:12there.
2:13:13As a result of that until what we've done
2:13:15is we've created a what we call are covered 19 emergency
2:13:22fiscal diagnostic tool to help us better
2:13:25understand what are some of the impacts
2:13:27that we see as a result Senator.
2:13:30It's a model that we've we've created
2:13:32that takes your existing long range forecast
2:13:36and puts it in and identifies the Verity level in terms
2:13:39of what do we see for property tax sales tax or utility users
2:13:45tax and what do we expect is going to happen in the future.
2:13:49And so we ran that model and I've just basically pulled
2:13:52some some screen scrapes from it and the first area
2:13:56is that what you see here is a chart that shows
2:13:59what the Reserve level goal is.
2:14:02Okay.
2:14:03This is just merely your 10 percent level
2:14:05the minimum reserve level.
2:14:07And of course as we know we're starting in 2019 20 Lower
2:14:12if you were to continue to spend everything that you had
2:14:15expected to spend in 2019 20 which we
2:14:19know that you've already taken some
2:14:20steps to reduce from part time.
2:14:25Galleries and other areas but if you were to have continued
2:14:29to spend and the revenues impacts
2:14:32that we see the sales tax revenue
2:14:34potential for some delayed property taxes.
2:14:39So all those other types of revenue source and recreation
2:14:42program revenues perhaps not happening.
2:14:46We could see the general fund being drawn down even further
2:14:50perhaps by a sum total of about 2 million dollars
2:14:53in this current fiscal year let alone
2:14:56the next year which then plummet into about an 8 million
2:14:59dollar draw.
2:15:01And this here all the the chart that we're seeing here
2:15:06assumes the city would implement which it hasn't been decided
2:15:10yet but assume that the city would implement
2:15:13the 2 million dollar cuts that are being proposed
2:15:17for discussion tonight.
2:15:19And so sorry that it stands.
2:15:21The the green the green does not the green line
2:15:24does not reflect the million dollar proposed cuts.
2:15:28No it does not.
2:15:29No it does not for the Green showing.
2:15:31It was like before.
2:15:32Right.
2:15:32But the red line does the red line does
2:15:35the red line incorporate that.
2:15:37I should have repainted this to show what it would look
2:15:39like before but we thought that before you were going
2:15:42to finish 2025 twenty six well above this 10 percent model
2:15:47basically.
2:15:48And let me let me dissolve because I can let you go on
2:15:52that that the almost 6 million dollars of of loss
2:15:58for next fiscal year of the recession forecast
2:16:04was that even touched on on your previous slide where you
2:16:08talked about the different revenue sources that
2:16:11were vulnerable Yeah.
2:16:14Yeah.
2:16:14So in my previous slide go back to it
2:16:19detailed what the projections were.
2:16:21We're seeing the likelihood of sales tax plummeting by about
2:16:2425 percent perhaps as a result of what happening which would
2:16:29be a moment that we're seeing which
2:16:31be about humanity probably 6.
2:16:35So you get to 6 million dollars in lost
2:16:38revenue so that's that's why that not going completely.
2:16:42It would mean it's a projection it's a model.
2:16:44So keep going but I wanted to get
2:16:47some sense of the the assumptions behind that 6
2:16:51million dollar drop next year.
2:16:53Right keep going.
2:16:53I'm sure you're going to tell us.
2:16:55I'll tell you right now few million dollars in sales
2:16:57tax probably about a half a million to a million
2:17:01in property transfer tax was the result
2:17:03of a significant slowdown in real estate transaction
2:17:07could be upwards of about a million
2:17:09or two million dollars and program revenues
2:17:11if recreation programs need to be shut down
2:17:14for a prolonged period of time reductions
2:17:17perhaps in property tax will result of reassessments if we
2:17:20see the market taking a significant dip
2:17:23in the next little bit.
2:17:24So based on a very severe recession
2:17:28that that could happen.
2:17:29And so it's showing you what the potential worst case perhaps
2:17:34impact could be if we were sheltered in place
2:17:38well beyond you know may into the summer months
2:17:44and that dramatic impact cascading impact that would
2:17:47have on unemployment and all of the other elements
2:17:50that that ultimately impact your revenue streams.
2:17:55And so there is the potential that that over the next three
2:17:58years starting with this current fiscal year
2:18:00that we're in that we could see a reduction of about 10
2:18:03million dollars in revenue if we hit the most
2:18:06severe areas and assumptions as it
2:18:11relates to this with this crisis.
2:18:15So in it's a model that we've that we're
2:18:17happy to make available to your staff to be able to work
2:18:21with and model this.
2:18:22And because I think a theme will be something that you're going
2:18:24I have to do to ensure that you're remaining solvent
2:18:28as an organization which I promise I will touch
2:18:31on here at a moment before we finish until I want to reflect
2:18:35though some of the actions that the city
2:18:37has already taken today.
2:18:38And there's there's summarized on the slide
2:18:40you know them better than I do.
2:18:41But right now there is something about some of this cannot Steve
2:18:46what you're talking about.
2:18:48Okay.
2:18:49So one slide I'm sorry I thought you were
2:18:51able to see the form on slide.
2:18:52You know the 53 years I had to remember you've
2:18:57generated slide 50 in the package
2:19:00that came to us earlier today.
2:19:03It's on page 86 of 97 I'm sorry.
The consultant returned to a slide to make the point that the city's strengths do not help here.
His framing: “there are some very good strengths that you have in terms of being able to buffe[r] this storm.”
Then the exception: the general fund, which he said had no reserve to buffer the storm.
What follows from it: “that really leads to… the need to really watch closely what's happening with your revenues… and being prepared to make some quick decisions. Thoughtful — yes — quick decisions.”
Pardue-Okimoto said closing recreation for the summer would keep many people from returning to work, because recreation is their child care. Quinto reported that the National League of Cities had asked Congress for a fourth emergency appropriation covering all cities, and urged residents to call their representatives.
A councilmember corrected colleagues who had spoken of the $2 million cut in the past tense: “We've actually not taken that action yet. It's proposed” — “you are assuming that it has been a fait accompli.” It had “actually not occurred yet,” and the councilmember asked colleagues to keep that in mind for the evening's actions.
The presentation then turned to “the top five revenue sources that really have the most unpredictable impact.”
The recession scenario was given a figure: “almost 6 million dollars of loss for next fiscal year.”
Its largest component: “the likelihood of sales tax plummeting by about 25 percent.”
The rest: half a million to a million in transfer tax, up to a million or two in program revenue, and some property tax through reassessments. Over three years the severe case came to about $10 million, and even with the $2 million in cuts the general fund could be drawn down about $2 million this year and about $8 million the next.
The consultants also raised the sequencing problem of restarting: having “furloughed or laid off… staff associated with those programs,” the question is “what does the sequencing [of] bringing them back” look like.
Their example: “we may need to bring the coordinators back early because they need to start planning those programs… [then] bring the admin staff back and help us turn back on the recreation registration application so that people can start registering for classes again.”
The same holds for “facilities maintenance [and] parks that may be closed.”
The consultant says the general fund has no reserve to buffer the storm, so the city must watch revenues closely and be ready to make quick decisions. A councilmember corrects colleagues speaking of the $2 million cut as already made: “you are assuming that it has been a fait accompli… it is actually not occurred yet.”
09 Shift the cost to who is assessed captions 2301–2560
2:19:08Well what's the numbers page 86 of 97
2:19:12in the supplemental package titled action number
2:19:17was taken today.
2:19:19Yeah.
2:19:19Slide number 50 slide number fifty actions
2:19:23all three don't have them today did you find that I'm
2:19:28working on it inside okay.
2:19:32Let me let me try to capture some of those insights
2:19:37on the supplemental path.
2:19:39So this current fiscal situation the type of fight that I'm
2:19:48on right now is actions also Rita has taken to date no age
2:20:00eighty six of ninety seven what's the number Page 8
2:20:07six eighty six of ninety seven cute to number one eighty six
2:20:44it's the slide immediately after the one that has gone
2:20:47to the theater on it one of my casual keys
2:20:53is that I lost my glasses I can't get
2:20:56them replaced until after the virus issue is over I'm
2:21:02I apologize.
2:21:04It's okay.
2:21:04I think I found page 86 of 97 Yeah
2:21:08yeah it sounds like actions Rosarito has taken to date
2:21:12got it right.
2:21:14Thank you so there your brief summary of basically the seven
2:21:22steps so that range from the potential to million dollar
2:21:27reductions that are being proposed for the 2020
2:21:30budget that is starting to have conversations with bargaining
2:21:36units in terms of restructuring benefits for the management
2:21:38group temporary unpaid furlough and part time employees city's
2:21:43already instituted a hiring freeze.
2:21:46I know that your finance director is having
2:21:48conversations with financial institutions
2:21:50to determine if tax revenue anticipation notes could help
2:21:54address potential cash flow needs
2:21:56and that's going to be something that's very very
2:21:58critical for the agency to to pursue because there is
2:22:03the potential if we have the severity of which we think
2:22:07could happen as a result of this pandemic
2:22:11that it could deplete your cash reserve.
2:22:14So that's something that I know that your finance director and
2:22:16City Manager are working on.
2:22:18You know that he's already negotiating with our bargaining
2:22:21unit to suspend the cost of living adjustments
2:22:24the current ammo you and then you
2:22:26know doing things like freezing any travel
2:22:28or any non-essential activities are pretty much frozen
2:22:32fast basically trying to to spend only the money that's
2:22:37absolutely necessary to maintain the core level of services that
2:22:43are currently being provided.
2:22:44With that we'll see if there's any other questions before I
2:22:47then jump to best practice and ultimately then address
2:22:50this question of insolvency and when does
2:22:54that trigger saying no hands up by.
2:23:02We will move on.
2:23:04Thank you.
2:23:05Good though.
2:23:06So there are some best practices and next steps for the city
2:23:10to take and this is the slide here that is the title
2:23:16as best practices relevant to also Rita
2:23:20and I believe it Slide 52 in your deck.
2:23:23I don't know what page number on supplemental intelligence
2:23:28so many pages 97 great but there are some no action long term
2:23:39practices that the city should really be looking for
2:23:42and really the short term ones are you know really taking
2:23:46the steps that are necessary to prepare for the short term
2:23:48revenue loss and addressing the cash flow
2:23:50needs The agency is absolutely critical.
2:23:53And then frankly short term is you need to find a way to get
2:23:57the general fund back in black.
2:23:59And I know that is very tough especially
2:24:01in light of a potential loss of revenues to the Magna too.
2:24:05But we're talking about that he's
2:24:07going to have to take some steps to try
2:24:09to avert an even more dramatic fiscal crisis and long term.
2:24:16It's two steps it's really creating
2:24:18a fiscal sustainability plan.
2:24:20And as well as really taking a look at the services
2:24:25that you provide prioritizing them identifying
2:24:28the cost for each of those are and then really identifying
2:24:31what are the things that we can that we can continue
2:24:34to provide based on limited number
2:24:37of available revenue resources.
2:24:39And so some of those short term actions
2:24:41I've included on a slide this next slide here that's
2:24:45titled short term action steps preparing
2:24:47for near-term revenue loss.
2:24:50Some of these you're already doing
2:24:51and I want to applaud the city for taking
2:24:53the practice steps to realizing the fiscal crisis
2:24:58that you're in.
2:24:59And and also with the nature of this pandemic
2:25:02and what's occurring there.
2:25:03But there are several steps ranging
2:25:07from you know as I mentioned earlier making sure that you're
2:25:10in compliance with FEMA and get reimbursed
2:25:12for some of these additional costs you're incurring.
2:25:14You've already instituted a hiring freeze looking
2:25:16at short term borrowing you're doing a lot of these things
2:25:19already and that's that's great The long term actions though
2:25:24really revolve around those two items
2:25:26which is creating a fiscal sustainability plan
2:25:30and implementing a smart budget smart budgeting concept which
2:25:34is really priority based budgeting and fiscal
2:25:37sustainability planning.
2:25:39This slide fifty seven and the all right for five
2:25:45I guess so far is is a ninety one ninety seven.
2:25:50Thank you very much.
2:25:52Is creating these composite comprehensive set
2:25:55of fiscal policies that will help stem the structural gap
2:26:00that exists between revenues and expenditures
2:26:03and as you see on the slide it you
2:26:05know the three areas that typically an agency will look
2:26:08to try to maintain service levels
2:26:12is to find ways to control expenditures better or even
2:26:15shift some of the cost of those expenditures to other forces.
2:26:19For example your stormwater assessment fees
2:26:22if you're if they're not I'm fully covering the cost
2:26:27of stormwater management.
2:26:30You know you'll need to look at increasing those fees that's
2:26:32not necessarily revenue and how much of that is making sure
2:26:35that those costs are shifted to those that really need to be
2:26:38paying for those which are the those that you're assessing
2:26:41the stormwater fees to the service delivery alternative
2:26:45other options to look at there that could you know result
2:26:49in either outsourcing insourcing or sharing
2:26:53services with other agencies.
2:26:55Revenue enhancements in this current environment that we're
2:26:57in is really a non-starter for the most part
2:26:59especially as we continue to see these unemployment
2:27:02numbers continuing to rise.
2:27:04But it's something that the city will need to look at long term
2:27:07and to the extent that those three actions do not solve
2:27:11the fiscal crisis then the agency
2:27:14is going to have to look at service level reductions
2:27:17that some people may say it's okay to look at service
2:27:20level reductions first.
2:27:21Others will say no we don't want to do that.
2:27:23We want to try to exercise everything within our control
2:27:25to maintain service that's possible
2:27:28and that's really up to the council
2:27:29to make those decisions in terms of prioritization
2:27:32how how you go about that in a fiscal sustainability plan.
2:27:36Mr. Mayor Yeah.
2:27:37Steve can you speak to like how responsive revenue is
2:27:42and can we generate new revenue in three months six months
2:27:47a year what what's the typical in your experience
2:27:49with other cities.
2:27:51How long is it from the time that Council identifies where
2:27:55they potentially might be able to get
2:27:57new revenue through developers spontaneous spurring
2:28:02development to come in and the development triggers
2:28:05new revenues through sales or property.
2:28:08You know there's obviously different types
2:28:10of revenue that's out there.
2:28:11And so I guess the morphs into two questions have we
2:28:16got all of the bases of type different types of revenue
2:28:19covered or is there a type of revenue out there
2:28:22museum fees or something like that that we're not covering
2:28:24and how take typically to go from the thought
2:28:30of a new revenue to actually getting that revenue.
2:28:33Right.
2:28:35So as it relates to fees and charges
2:28:40that you have the council does have the authority
2:28:42to make that decision to increase those fees up
2:28:45to a level of cost recovery of course
2:28:47you have to make some evaluative choices in terms
2:28:50of are we going to seek full cost recovery for everything
2:28:53that we provide to the city or are there areas
2:28:55where we're willing to subsidize a little bit.
2:28:58But if we're currently subsidizing a program by 60
2:29:01percent you know and trying to trim that down to maybe warmly
2:29:06subsidize it by about 20 percent that's an action that
2:29:09the council can take it could be implemented you know depending
2:29:13on what your ordinance timelines are typically those could be
2:29:15anywhere from up to 60 days which is related to development
2:29:19revenues but when it talks about increasing the base new
2:29:23development projects you all know better than I do and even
2:29:28though I have 20 years of experience working with local
2:29:30governments about you know the development curve that could
2:29:34take anywhere from two to 10 years
2:29:38to see those revenues coming in tax measures tax measures
2:29:42typically would require a vote.
2:29:45During a time when council members are also
2:29:48or or election.
2:29:49And so those are and even years.
2:29:52Right.
2:29:53Short of declaring a fiscal emergency of which
2:29:57the California Constitution Section 13 b which deals
2:30:06with basically the the issues of Prop 2 18
2:30:11and and taxing reading and ballot measures for tax
2:30:16measures does give you the authority
2:30:18to declare a fiscal emergency as long as a unanimous vote
2:30:22by the by the governing board in this case
2:30:25the city council you could then place a measure on the ballot
2:30:29off election cycle.
2:30:31That is something that is that is available to you.
2:30:34But going back to your question Mr. Mayor it can take anywhere
2:30:38from 12 to 18 months and in the best sense and that
2:30:42up to several years to see really those revenue
2:30:45measures coming forward which means practically speaking it's
2:30:50going to require some level of of expenditure reductions
2:30:54in the near term to be able to stem the tide of this as
2:30:59well just the crisis that you're currently
2:31:02in before recovered 19 in order to bring health
2:31:07to the general fund again.
2:31:09Yes.
2:31:09So looking at that chart that you showed the big red dip
2:31:12in that certainly that's going to happen
2:31:15over the next 18 months.
2:31:17And to get new revenues in or within that 18 month period
2:31:21is going to be scarce So we are looking at potentially needing
2:31:26to make smart expenditure choices that
2:31:31do plan for reinstate after that cut
2:31:34after the recession is over.
2:31:37Can you touch on.
2:31:38Are there revenue areas that we're not touching on
2:31:42and one that comes to my mind is working
2:31:44we don't charge for parking in Eldorado or that I know of.
2:31:49And so are there other areas of revenue
2:31:51that we're just completely not covering at this time.
2:31:57Broad brush stroke really good.
2:31:59We didn't do a deep dive into the the revenue potential
2:32:04we would with a fiscal sustainability plan
2:32:06but you know looking to make sure that you've
2:32:10utility users taxes an area you could
2:32:12but again that requires a vote.
2:32:14There are some potential to be able to increase some
2:32:17of those utility user taxes for that area of your franchise
2:32:23fees you'd have to take a look at that
2:32:25and see what the general fund might want to charge
2:32:29for solid waste collection which I understand is something
2:32:32that's really not going to be very applicable
2:32:35But it's something that you could really take a look at
2:32:37and determining whether you wanted to implement that
2:32:40but remember that's going to go to the ratepayers.
2:32:42Ultimately the better paying those.
2:32:46Absolutely.
2:32:46And looking to new revenue sources not yet I
2:32:50was thinking outside of our conventional revenue
2:32:54because we have all of those.
2:32:56But I was just curious curious if there's
2:32:57something we're not like like other cities
2:33:00our size would be able to.
2:33:03You've seen them have revenue in what I mean obviously we joked
2:33:08a couple of meetings go about casinos and racetracks
2:33:10and things like that.
2:33:11But clearly something that would be more fitting
2:33:15tells Cerrito in terms of new revenue sources.
2:33:19I mean that would have a short timeframe.
2:33:21You know of diversification question
2:33:24earlier about going to and finding new stable revenue.
2:33:28So if I'm on a theme if you haven't picked that up yet
2:33:38Yeah I mean you know from my perspective
2:33:40and again without having done a deep dive into your fee
2:33:42schedule and other things I mean there's not a lot of blurring
2:33:45out there in terms of new revenue sources
2:33:47and ultimately that's going to have an impact on people having
2:33:50to pay those those revenue sources right
2:33:52and what is the health of everything
2:33:53that's going on right now.
2:33:54In fact even just take the casino tax for example
The consultants set out the actions already taken and the approach they recommend.
Actions to date: the proposed $2 million in reductions, talks with bargaining units including on suspending cost of living adjustments, an unpaid furlough of part-time employees, a hiring freeze, a freeze on travel and non-essential spending, and talks with lenders on a revenue anticipation note, which the consultant called critical because a severe downturn could deplete the city's cash.
The recommendation: “creating a fiscal sustainability plan and implementing… smart budgeting” — described as “priority based budgeting and fiscal sustainability planning.”
Its purpose: “creating” a “comprehensive set of fiscal policies that will help stem the structural gap that exists between revenues and expenditures.”
The three levers: “control expenditures better, or even shift some of the cost of those expenditures to other” sources.
His worked example: “your stormwater assessment fees — if they're not fully covering the cost of stormwater management, you'll need to look at increasing those fees.”
And the principle behind it: “that's not necessarily revenue… it's making sure that those costs are shifted to those that really need to be paying for those, which are… those that you're assessing the stormwater fees to.”
The Mayor asked how quickly new revenue can be raised. The consultant said fees can be raised to cost within about 60 days, development revenue takes two to ten years, and tax measures need a vote; a fiscal emergency declared unanimously would allow an off-cycle ballot measure. At best, new revenue takes 12 to 18 months, so near-term spending cuts would be needed. Asked about sources the city does not use, such as parking, he said there were few.
Raising a fee to its actual cost is framed as cost allocation rather than revenue — “shifted to those that really need to be paying.” The worked example is the stormwater assessment, which does not cover its cost. New revenue takes 12 to 18 months at best, so near-term cuts are needed.
10 Chapter 9 captions 2561–2720
2:33:56if we were to all of a sudden pop a casino up
2:33:59overnight you know that the San Pablo was pretty much closed.
2:34:03Oh actually it's not essential.
2:34:05Yeah yeah yeah.
2:34:08Great thank you.
2:34:09Thank you.
2:34:10A little less hands up.
2:34:11Yeah okay.
2:34:14Yeah I think that Gregg your point
2:34:15is that in looking forward it's using on the slide
2:34:19that we see here all of those pieces
2:34:21and really being as creative as possible.
2:34:24You know are there opportunities that you can adjust fees or get
2:34:28new options And so I think all of those things
2:34:32can be appropriately on the table I have one more thought
2:34:38in the function that we could have course
2:34:40like for the fun of it there were some raised hands
2:34:42and left want fml.
2:34:45I wanted to just mention real quickly.
2:34:49We did have someone write in and talk about potential revenues
2:34:53in terms of charging for our visits
2:34:57when the firefighters do medical visits
2:35:01And did you discuss that at all when looking over these plans.
2:35:06No we have not detailed the fulfillment
2:35:08of the various revenue streams that are available we're
2:35:11happy to do that for you.
2:35:12But you know we have gone into the facility
2:35:15that we would Do you know a big level in terms of you
2:35:19know what we're seeing in terms of your your fiscal health
2:35:23and then that really will open then questions in terms
2:35:25of doing a deeper dive to find some
2:35:27of the fiscal sustainability strategy that could help Yeah
2:35:31I might just make a quick comment Nancy.
2:35:33You know when we when we started this
2:35:35is all obviously pre copay 19 and so it
2:35:39was looking at a different operating environment.
2:35:42And as we had anticipated our original workshop with you
2:35:46it was around the strategic plan obviously
2:35:48still with a sensitivity and an eye
2:35:50toward the need to focus finances in light of what
2:35:56we're seeing with Kovac.
2:35:57We wanted to just provide you this preview forecast.
2:36:01Well we haven't had the time to do it as this has been
2:36:05you know emerging in the last couple weeks
2:36:07is to do a deep dive and do any kind of strategy suggestions
2:36:12and recognize that that could be something that is left wanting
2:36:18but I know that that is anticipated for next steps
2:36:22and this is even prior to Cove it
2:36:24we were recommending that the city do some financial planning
2:36:28and strategy Sustainability Strategy Planning
2:36:32now it's all the more urgent I think that to Steve's point
2:36:35that some of this is doing the analysis
2:36:39and making logical decisions but during quickly.
2:36:42So as to prevent any further issues
2:36:51we're really appreciate this really
2:36:53really for the critical decision that need to be made.
2:36:56It's really you know getting a grip on the problem
2:36:58and understanding about the part of the conversation
2:37:00tonight putting the priorities for service delivery
2:37:03you know which ones are the ones that are valued most
2:37:06and which are the ones that really we
2:37:07can afford in terms of the the revenues
2:37:11that are currently available.
2:37:14And then seeking if there is a revenue enhancement that could
2:37:17help pay for some of those services that are that
2:37:21are decided that are not otherwise affordable.
2:37:23I then implementing those priorities.
2:37:26I do want to address the Leighton question that's
2:37:28been sitting on the table for for quite a while now
2:37:31and there's just what is insolvency look
2:37:35like in the state of California and really the authority that
2:37:41governs this whole area goes a five or that was in 2011
2:37:49and provides full protection under Chapter 9
2:37:51I'm California agencies and what it basically
2:37:55does is that the provisions of HB 5 0 6
2:37:58allows agencies to ultimately retain control of how
2:38:02to address creditors and liquidity
2:38:06through an era of insolvency.
2:38:09And so and the statute indicates really to key provisions that
2:38:16are the litmus test of whether an agency is going I'm
2:38:19solvent it's not necessarily that the drawn reserves
2:38:23below zero but what it is is that number one
2:38:27that the municipalities financial condition
2:38:29would jeopardize the health safety
2:38:31and well-being of residents.
2:38:33And there's some objectivity to that but it has to be you
2:38:37know really pass the sniff test that you know there's
2:38:41the clearing declaring insolvency really required
2:38:45thing you know what we will not be able to maintain services
2:38:48like we had expected to.
2:38:50That could seriously jeopardize the health
2:38:52safety and well-being of our our residents.
2:38:55And the second is this is that a municipality is
2:38:58or will be unable to pay its obligations
2:39:02within the next 60 days.
2:39:04And that really leads to the concept of cash flow
2:39:07so filing for Chapter 9 in California
2:39:12really looks at the overall cash flow
2:39:14and how are you able to meet the obligations that you have.
2:39:17And those aren't necessarily external creditors those
2:39:21are your employees as well.
2:39:23Those are any obligations financial obligations
2:39:25that you have incurred that you're not able to pay.
2:39:30And so you know as a precautionary measure for El
2:39:33Cerrito to avoid insolvency there's really three things
2:39:36that we that we think need to happen first.
2:39:39Q I talk with them again this is talk I dropped to my video
2:39:46but I called back in I'm on the phone now so sorry about that.
2:39:50I don't know where it's north though or more
2:39:53on the slide overview of local government
2:39:55of insolvency analysis and the proportional measures Rosarito
2:39:58Mr. Mayor do you have a page number there in front of you
2:40:00is ninety five.
2:40:05I'm on mute so I'm off mute it's ninety four of ninety seven
2:40:12by default Lincoln to everything.
2:40:17Yeah.
2:40:18It's ninety four ninety five that that area
2:40:21that area for the first one is is you
2:40:25know we've talked with your finance director and City
2:40:27Manager about this things that it's so important to update
2:40:31the city's existing cash model.
2:40:34You know to evaluate life as normal but more importantly
2:40:40life under covered 19 and what could happen in
2:40:43from the mid April timeframe through the next six 12 months
2:40:48in terms of your cash flow.
2:40:50The second and again your finance director is already
2:40:53taking steps to do this is checking the availability
2:40:55of short borrowing such things as a tax revenue anticipation
2:40:59of Rand and that's going to have to be done in the next few
2:41:02weeks or so to really make sure you have the cash flow that you
2:41:06need to be able to get through what's going to become the dry
2:41:10months through the summer because your next huge wave
2:41:15of cash revenues that come in will really be in December when
2:41:18you get that first wave of property taxes spur to the 20
2:41:2121 fiscal year and then the third
2:41:24area is really to determine that the city does have the
2:41:28cash to meet the obligations for the next 18 months.
2:41:32And this really is the key point because if you have
2:41:36your efficient cash to meet your obligations
2:41:39you don't need to implement a big five or six.
2:41:41You don't need to go down the road to identifying what steps
2:41:45you need to take in terms of an ultimately
2:41:48but it's going to be really critical for the city
2:41:50to start taking some steps now to to avoid that.
2:41:54Mr. Mayor.
2:41:55So this is a cash flow loan.
2:41:57We're talking about it's cash flow is really insolvency
2:42:02really relate to cash flow.
2:42:05But Steve's question is about the loan on
2:42:10and I was troubled by our debt we do reduction of our ratings
2:42:15won't it be harder to get it were there would be it could
2:42:21end up adversely affecting your credit rating definitely
2:42:25if you were solvency right.
2:42:28No I think this is about the ability to get the loan
2:42:30and if there if there are concerns today given the credit
2:42:34rating what we know is that your finance director and City
2:42:37Manager are working with local bank currently
2:42:40and so you should know you should have an answer don't
2:42:42care maybe you want to speak to this also mark but there This
2:42:47is something that they are recapping and pursuing
A councilmember asked whether the consultants had looked at charging for fire department medical calls, as a written comment had suggested. They had not yet analyzed individual revenue streams.
The consultants then set out the legal conditions for municipal insolvency in California, under AB 506 of 2011.
The first condition, on service levels: a municipality unable to maintain them “like we had expected to… could seriously jeopardize the health, safety and well-being of our residents.”
The second: “a municipality is or will be unable to pay its obligations within the next 60 days.”
So the test is cash, not deficit: “filing for Chapter 9 in California really looks at the overall cash flow and how are you able to meet the obligations that you have.”
And the obligations are internal as much as external: “those aren't necessarily external creditors — those are your employees as well.”
Their framing of what follows: “as a precautionary measure for El Cerrito to avoid insolvency, there's really three things that we think need to happen first.”
The three steps: update the city's cash flow model for the pandemic; secure short-term borrowing such as a revenue anticipation note within the next few weeks, to get through the summer until property taxes arrive in December; and confirm the city has the cash to meet its obligations for the next 18 months.
Asked whether a lower credit rating would make the loan harder to get, the consultant said it could, and that staff were working with a local bank.
The test for Chapter 9 in California is cash, not deficit: whether a city is or will be unable to pay its obligations within 60 days — and “those aren't necessarily external creditors, those are your employees as well.” The consultants call their three steps precautionary.
11 If the note doesn't come through captions 2721–2830
2:42:52and should know I believe within the next several weeks
2:42:56Is that accurate.
2:42:58Yes that's correct.
2:42:59We are currently exploring that right now
2:43:00as you said and we should know hopefully
2:43:03within the next weeks.
2:43:04Yes.
2:43:05So then you can then you can determine those next steps
2:43:08actions if that comes through.
2:43:09That addresses the immediacy of the cash
2:43:11flow concerns and safeguards.
2:43:15Need to look at this as an option and that's the goal.
2:43:19There's are our initial assessment
2:43:22and what a note of caution because if the trend doesn't
2:43:26come through that's a different ballgame
2:43:28but I see that I go down.
2:43:31But it's to me that it is significant We don't get it
2:43:35then we have some other issues to deal
2:43:37with that's exactly right.
2:43:39And it's a whole new conversation to be had for now
2:43:43that the city is pursuing that and then pending
2:43:46the notification of what that word will look like with what
2:43:50the loan will look like they'll be better positioned to make
2:43:54some choices and decisions.
2:43:56But all of this cash flow and we're
2:43:59going to come back to this and we're
2:44:00going to hit it Hello yes.
2:44:08I'm back on.
2:44:09I'm back on the video now.
2:44:11Thank you folks.
2:44:12Yeah.
2:44:13Great thanks.
2:44:16Before before you Marty before you go on I
2:44:18want to make sure that council member came to you.
2:44:22Do you still have your hand up.
2:44:24Gabe thank you.
2:44:26I appreciate it.
2:44:28You mentioned outsourcing.
2:44:32And have you looked closely into that
2:44:38have have you done an analysis on outsourcing
2:44:44if we need to do that.
2:44:46We have not been engaged to do a deep dive into
2:44:48your Q4 feasibility plan until.
2:44:51No we have not done any type of depth of analysis
2:44:54in terms about working service or any of those other types
2:44:58of remedies.
2:45:01However what I would say is that is something that in working
2:45:04with us first actions that we have absolutely looked
2:45:07at on a whole host of occasions can
2:45:10in in the spirit of a whole portfolio of options in that
2:45:15in the strategic plan how do we go back in time recovered
2:45:18covered that the set goals and strategies we were going
2:45:22to bring before you to consider the very first goal
2:45:26was to secure the financial help I'm reading it from the draft
2:45:29strategic plan we would have been presenting this to secure
2:45:31the financial health and long term sustainability of the city
2:45:34strategy one was to adopt and implement a
2:45:37financial sustainability plan.
2:45:38So even pre covered our recommendation
2:45:41was to invest the time and energy to do these analysis got
2:45:55I saw I I saw there.
2:45:57There you go the screen So we were
2:46:00we were going to be proposing and recommending based
2:46:03on the the work we did and the strategic plan that this should
2:46:07be a priority we are now as I said earlier
2:46:11my comments underscoring and the sizing
2:46:13and holding this as as the top priority
2:46:17given everything that we know about certain specific
2:46:21financial environment Any other questions from Tulsa lovers
2:46:27at this time.
2:46:35Okay.
2:46:36Well maybe we could hand it over then Steve to Karen
2:46:41Do I do a quick wrap up on the conclusion
2:46:42and then really we wanted to spend some time.
2:46:47And Karen has worked closely with her department head team
2:46:51to come up at the council's direction
2:46:54with some with 2 million dollars worth of reductions
2:46:58and what those might look like and I think
2:46:59she's prepared to provide some insight
2:47:01you probably have it as a part packet
2:47:04so to talk to talk a little bit touch on that
2:47:07but really the what we'd like to be able to circle
2:47:10back on are the action items coming out of this.
2:47:14What is that the council see as priority in preparing
2:47:18for next steps and for the budget
2:47:20so Karen do you want to join step Yes I would like to OK.
2:47:29Can everyone hear me.
2:47:31Yes Yes I can see you too.
2:47:33OK yes.
2:47:34I've had to rebooted at least twice.
2:47:36So now I'm on a new device so though just go back
2:47:42over one of the previous slides just
2:47:45to discuss again the immediate actions
2:47:47that city staff has taken in response to this emergency.
2:47:51So we.
2:47:52That includes an unpaid furlough of ninety nine
2:47:56zero part time staff members.
2:47:59I've already directed a reduction
2:48:02in discretionary benefits for management
2:48:04staff including car allowances.
2:48:08I have implemented a freeze on hiring.
2:48:11I have implemented a freeze on non-essential spending.
2:48:14I've implemented a freeze on any through the end
2:48:18of the fiscal year any non-essential travel training
2:48:23All of those types of against discretionary spending
2:48:28will be looking at a lot of some.
2:48:30We've already looked at a lot of what Steve had described
2:48:34but going forward we will have to look
2:48:37at that which I'll get look at more
2:48:39which I'll get to in a second.
The discussion turned to the borrowing the city was then pursuing, and what happens if it fails.
The status: it is “something that they are… pursuing and should know… within the next several weeks,” confirmed by staff — “we are currently exploring that right now… and we should know hopefully within the next weeks.”
What it would do: “that addresses the immediacy of the cash flow concerns.”
Then the caution: “if the” note “doesn't come through, that's a different ballgame.”
And a councilmember's agreement: “if we don't get it, then we have some other issues to deal with.”
The reply: “that's exactly right. And it's a whole new conversation to be had.”
The note is later authorized at up to about $8.9 million (2 Jun 2020).
Quinto asked whether the consultants had analyzed outsourcing. They had not, but said the draft strategic plan's first goal had been the city's financial health, with a financial sustainability plan as its first strategy. The City Manager then listed actions already taken: an unpaid furlough of part-time staff, cuts to management discretionary benefits including car allowances, and freezes on hiring, non-essential spending and travel.
“If the [note] doesn't come through, that's a different ballgame” — the city's cash position depended on a borrowing not yet secured. It is later authorized at up to about $8.9 million (2 Jun 2020).
12 Seven hundred and fifty thousand in concessions captions 2831–3100
2:48:41So tonight what we had meant to do
2:48:43was prepare we had prepared for you overall 5 percent reduction
2:48:48for the 20 21 and twenty one twenty biennial budget.
2:48:52You'll recall that when you all discussed this in February
2:48:55you gave us a projected.
2:48:57But we gave you a projected budget and you asked us
2:49:00for 2 million dollars in reductions
2:49:01from that projected budget.
2:49:04The amended general fund budget around forty
2:49:07point five million dollars the reduction target was
2:49:10just over 2 million dollars.
2:49:13So I worked with each department director
2:49:15over the past month and a half to identify reductions
2:49:19through a combination of steps which
2:49:21is outlined for you in attachment 1 attachment 8
2:49:25which was in your pocket.
2:49:28It's a combination in positions reducing programs and contracts
2:49:32and shifting costs special funds that would amount to about
2:49:35a one point six million dollars worth of savings
2:49:38and just cost reductions alone.
2:49:42The overall reduction for 2 million dollars
2:49:44also assumes that all employees will forgo OK
2:49:54that that employees will forego their cost
2:49:57of living adjustments for twenty twenty one.
2:50:00So as previously referenced staff
2:50:03is negotiating with all bargaining units
2:50:05to achieve this we are optimists think that all of them
2:50:10will will help us do that currently.
2:50:14And again we're still in negotiations
2:50:16This will be brought more to your attention
2:50:18at the next council meeting but currently
2:50:20we're anticipating four hundred thousand dollars
2:50:24in that that savings would result in about four hundred
2:50:28thousand dollars.
2:50:28That includes the management group
2:50:30which I'll get to in a second.
2:50:32And if all of the bargaining units
2:50:35agree and comply all employees agree
2:50:37and comply that's over seven hundred fifty
2:50:39thousand dollars in savings so with the anticipated savings
2:50:43that we believe we have right now with in negotiations
2:50:47the overall reduction is is two point
2:50:50zero three million dollars.
2:50:52If that additional 300 plus thousand comes online that
2:50:56would be an additional three hundred thousand
2:50:58dollars in reductions.
2:51:00So just to go over their proposed reductions
2:51:03just as you can ask questions in some of these in a general
2:51:07but in a general sense one of the biggest things
2:51:11you'll notice is holding open vacant positions
2:51:13which could of course lead to eliminating
2:51:14those vacant positions.
2:51:17Some of the vacancies I just want to point out
2:51:19in the police department for example
2:51:20have been carried for quite some time.
2:51:22But recruitment has continued during that time.
2:51:26These positions as proposed however would stay vacant.
2:51:29They would not be they would not be filled for this fiscal year
2:51:32not have the opportunity to file for this fiscal year.
2:51:36That also includes eliminating a school resource officer
2:51:39as you know the school district has already
2:51:41let us snow that they're going to reduce to 1 to essentially
2:51:46paying for Well we won't even it won't even fill one position
2:51:49but they are going to reduce to pay only one
2:51:51hundred fifty thousand dollars.
2:51:53Again that we're aware of at this point.
2:51:56It includes suspending and reducing various programs.
2:51:59And again this is what we have worked on to date including
2:52:04the traffic neighborhood management program which
2:52:06is where currently where people can request traffic studies
2:52:09or traffic calming devices in their neighborhood
2:52:12the new street light program where residents can request
2:52:15new street lights the street banner program to pay
2:52:19for installation those throughout the year
2:52:21that we would suspend that for the time being
2:52:24or or longer in order to try to reduce costs for that We would
2:52:31also reduce the number of public workshops
2:52:33events and classes particularly those that require overtime.
2:52:37As you know we redo one of the things
2:52:40that I believe is star quality of life
2:52:42is that we are able to particularly have police
2:52:47officers or firefighters especially firefighters on duty
2:52:49to be able to help provide some of these programs.
2:52:53We would be reducing those Yes Your Honor
2:52:58I think I heard Janet did you want
2:53:00to say something at this time.
2:53:02Oh I'm sorry.
2:53:03That was the background things that I did have a question
2:53:07about when you said something and something
2:53:11about firefighters reducing what I did.
2:53:14I was just interrupted.
2:53:16Mariam we would we would reduce those programs or events where
2:53:21we have firefighters that are on duty that would lead
2:53:24to overtime an example like a certain training
2:53:30for example the cert program.
2:53:32Now we've already needed to cancel.
2:53:35OK.
2:53:361 cert program because of the emergency wherein we would
2:53:40we would reduce the amount of programs that we offer or or I
2:53:46guess what I wasn't aware of.
2:53:47And it may just be my lack of knowledge is we actually
2:53:51if some if somebody let's say somebody is assigned to do cert
2:53:56then they actually do that on overtime.
2:54:00It can lead to overtime because we do have special events.
2:54:05I don't know if the chief looking
2:54:10to see if that she begonias on this
2:54:14that he could explain here.
2:54:16All right.
2:54:17Would you like to answer that question.
2:54:19Okay.
2:54:20If I understood the question it was
2:54:24extra programs that were you that we utilized
2:54:27overtime for the firefighters.
2:54:30Yeah they're working.
2:54:31OK.
2:54:33And what would be an example of something like this
2:54:36when I was kind of wondering.
2:54:37Well a lot of are a lot of our cert classes
2:54:40and we utilize overtime to prevent taking our engine
2:54:43companies out of service to certain classes that require
2:54:47you know one or two people meal for three and four
2:54:50hours to put on the classes if we're using on duty people that
2:54:55takes an engine company out of service which then in the past
2:55:00you know we always try to avoid that so that we did what what's
2:55:04being proposed here which would be to eliminate that overtime
2:55:09then would we eliminate that activity or would
2:55:14we close the fire station.
2:55:17What are what are we doing.
2:55:18Well we are actually doing what we are proposing right now
2:55:22is that we would reduce that activity or it
2:55:26and or we would also try to transfer that to volunteers
2:55:30or staff that would not be paid overtime hard
2:55:34to do those activities.
2:55:36So that's mean I know there used to be a volunteer
2:55:41Grant Kafka All right did it.
2:55:47I think as I understand anyway so we would
2:55:51go back more to the volunteer model
2:55:53for some of those activities if they are to remain at all.
2:55:57That's what we're.
2:55:58Yes that's what we're like right now.
2:55:59Because the idea is to reduce staff overtime
2:56:02absolutely no continuing.
2:56:08Some of the description of the reductions
2:56:12in various categories of expenditures
2:56:15professional services.
2:56:17We've talked about this in the past
2:56:19but we do have as we have a small staff we do often rely
2:56:23on consultants to provide expertise
2:56:25in various area of the city.
2:56:27We do employ a lot of generalists here at the city
2:56:30so it's something very specific.
2:56:32For example a public works construction contract
2:56:35or something that you know our staff would benefit
2:56:39from the additional expertise we do rely on that we would reduce
2:56:43the amount of consulting contracts this year
2:56:45which means that we might have to look at the programs we're
2:56:49offering and look at the projects
2:56:50we're doing in order to make sure
2:56:52that we're able to use in-house staff for what services
2:56:56that we're in projects we're working on this year travel
2:57:00and training it would only be essential training
2:57:03as required either by law or as required
2:57:06by license or credential.
2:57:08We are looking a lot at local trainings not out of town
2:57:12trainings or state trainings people would be asked
2:57:16to pay their own way if that was something
2:57:18that they wanted to explore.
2:57:21It would not be paid for by the city events and field trips.
2:57:24This is an odd line item in the budget.
2:57:27We don't do a lot of field trips that's actually
2:57:29what we what that line item has housed
2:57:32is the budgets mostly the budgets for not only
2:57:36just events that the departments put on but also the budgets
2:57:40for all of our boards commissions and committees are
2:57:42housed in that line item.
2:57:45And so we are in this in this in this proposed reduction chart
2:57:50we are showing significant reduced budgets for boards
2:57:53commissions and committees which again we can reduce even
2:57:57further if necessary which it will be necessary public
2:58:01information we are we we we are proud of what we've been able
2:58:06to do in the past providing particularly printed materials
2:58:10we will be reducing that significantly including
2:58:12our city newsletter and any of the other printed materials
2:58:18that we are looking at because postage and and and designers
2:58:23for the newsletter all of that would be reduced significantly
2:58:27and then supplies equipments and vehicles we have assessed
2:58:29and we'll continue to assess the purchasing
2:58:33and put off everything that
2:58:34is a major purchase that we can for as long as we can.
2:58:38Again the budget assumed what we have tried to do
2:58:41is to assume you know looking at when our vehicles come come
2:58:46online or the necessity to read to buy them cycles
2:58:49that they were police vehicles or fire
2:58:51vehicles for public works vehicles for example.
2:58:54We do that on a rolling basis.
2:58:56But at this point we are putting off a lot of that.
2:58:59We've also talked about capital projects
2:59:01we've talked about that earlier we are putting off anything
2:59:04that would impact our cash flow a lot of that is grant funded
2:59:08but it does it does require an outflow of cash
2:59:12that we get reimbursed for.
2:59:13So we need to be very conscious of when we're spending
2:59:16that money where we're spending that money so that we can get
2:59:19reimbursed either very quickly or that we plan those projects
2:59:23so that we don't have to worry about our cash flow
2:59:26or we just put off projects completely
2:59:30Those are all being addressed as well.
2:59:33And then.
2:59:35Yes.
2:59:36No I just said OK OK.
2:59:39So then The other thing that this also assumes and again we
2:59:42can go further in this and we'll be looking
2:59:45at that for the next steps.
2:59:47But in this particular exercise what
2:59:49we looked at is our eligible costs that we could move
2:59:52to Measure H which was approved last year as you
2:59:55recall Measure H was expanded in scope
2:59:57from the original measure a.
2:59:59So that it could be used for anything within the park
3:00:02and rec master plan as adopted.
3:00:05And so expenditures related to park maintenance landscaping
3:00:09to vegetation vegetation management particularly
3:00:11emails a natural area as well can be moved to Measure H.
3:00:15And so Measure H is about six hundred
3:00:19fifty thousand dollars a year.
3:00:20So we haven't fully pulled over seven hundred fifty thousand
3:00:24dollars worth of expenses at this time within this chart
3:00:28but that is also something that we can look
3:00:30at for the next year or two.
3:00:33Knowing that we would not be looking to bond against Measure
3:00:36anytime soon because of our current financial situation.
3:00:39So I do want to note that this is just one side of the story.
3:00:43We have touched on this a little bit before.
3:00:45This one side of the story is just in reductions only we are
3:00:49looking at revenues we will be.
3:00:51And as Steve referenced this we actually are already analyzing
3:00:54our masterpiece schedule we are looking
3:00:56at all of the additional fees that we can charge
3:01:00and it has been brought up before about the ambulance fees
3:01:03and then when fees we are indeed looking at that we are looking
3:01:09at those types of revenues that would
3:01:11not require any sort of election I think for obvious reasons.
3:01:17But that's that's something that we are exploring currently
3:01:20as well and that we do have staff tasked to to continue
3:01:24to work to make sure they're bringing that to me
3:01:28so that we have a better a little bit more
3:01:30of a balanced picture.
3:01:31So again in light of the current fiscal situation
3:01:35and in light of covered nineteen I
3:01:37was you know I was heartened by the recovered 19 chart that
3:01:45showed that the two million dollars would have
3:01:47made a significant difference.
3:01:50But we're in a different world now
3:01:51and so we recognize that this is not enough.
3:01:55We will have to mitigate the revenue shortfalls for Cove
3:01:58at 19 and instead of tonight discussing the pros and cons
3:02:02of what I presented to you we're now essentially presenting
3:02:06to those as our new baseline we don't really have
3:02:10a choice anymore in those reserve reductions
3:02:14and In fact we need to go further
3:02:16and we need to discuss those further for tonight.
3:02:20You know we can get back to having
3:02:21a bit more of a conversation but as I indicated to you before
3:02:25as I indicated in the agenda Bill
3:02:28what I do now now that I have staff looking at this
3:02:31the original part of the exercise
3:02:33was to look at a 5 percent reduction
3:02:35and to look at a very high level.
3:02:39I've been calling it a scorched earth reduction
3:02:42and that is actually now the all the spreadsheets
The City Manager gave the arithmetic of the $2 million reduction, and most of it depends on agreement.
The Council had asked for about $2 million in reductions from an amended general fund budget of about $40.5 million. About $1.6 million came from holding positions vacant, reducing programs and contracts, and shifting costs to special funds.
The assumption: the reduction “also assumes that all employees will forgo their cost of living adjustments for twenty twenty one.”
The status: “staff is negotiating with all bargaining units to achieve this. We are optimist[ic] that all of them will help us do that. Currently… we're still in negotiations.”
The anticipated figure, already counted in the $2.03 million total: about $400,000 including the management group.
The full figure if everyone agrees: “over seven hundred fifty thousand dollars in savings.”
So about a fifth of the $2 million rests on concessions not yet given, and full agreement would add about $300,000 more.
Other reductions: vacant positions, including long-held police vacancies, would stay unfilled; a school resource officer position would go, with the school district paying only $150,000; the neighborhood traffic management, new street light and street banner programs would be suspended; and events needing overtime, such as CERT classes, would be reduced or moved to volunteers, as the fire chief explained to Abelson.
She then described what else is being cut, and the line nobody notices: events and field trips “houses… the budgets for all of our boards, commissions and committees.”
The proposed chart showed significantly reduced budgets for boards, commissions and committees, which she said could be reduced further.
Also going: printed materials, “including our city newsletter.” Printed publications are on hold by September (15 Sep 2020).
Some park maintenance and vegetation management could move to Measure H, about $650,000 a year. Staff were also reviewing the master fee schedule, including ambulance fees. The City Manager said the $2 million was now a baseline rather than a choice, and a deeper reduction would be needed.
About $400,000 of the $2 million assumes employees forgo cost of living increases, still under negotiation; if every unit agrees the savings pass $750,000. The “events and field trips” line holds the budgets for every board, commission and committee, and the proposal cuts them significantly.
13 Who already pays more captions 3101–3400
3:02:46that we're now currently looking at
3:02:47and that's including eliminating those vacant positions
3:02:51for good reducing.
3:02:53I will say it and I will recommend it reducing the hours
3:02:57to the library for library services
3:02:59as much as kills me to say that as much
3:03:03of an advocate as I am for the library That's
3:03:07a significant amount of money and soup services
3:03:10do need to be reduced everywhere.
3:03:14Cancellation of the library we're paying for.
3:03:22We aren't typically required to pay but we've chosen to pay
3:03:27and we're continuing to look at that.
3:03:30The reason I brought that up because that was in discussion
3:03:33and will be a significant discussion
3:03:35with the City Council I'm just giving you
3:03:37all a bit of a spoiler alert.
3:03:40At my recommendation you to not to cut
3:03:44those hours until we can get better not call them not at
3:03:48them was my phone.
3:03:53Look I couldn't hear you.
3:03:55I will.
3:03:56I am going to the council to consider
3:03:59cutting the library hours.
3:04:02Okay.
3:04:04Cancellation of major city events.
3:04:06This was also a discussion.
3:04:10I I have.
3:04:12You have given me the authority through the local emergency
3:04:16to cancel events and programs per the county health order.
3:04:21We do not know how long that's going to last
3:04:23and we also don't know that even if we are able to recover
3:04:28by the summertime.
3:04:29If we would be able to recover being able to get ready
3:04:33for some significant events I think
3:04:35you know I'm talking about July 4th I've
3:04:38had extensive conversations with staff.
3:04:40I've talked to Chris.
3:04:42We have several concerns.
3:04:43The biggest one being that at this point
3:04:47we would not be able to get certainly the sponsorships
3:04:50that the council was asking us to try to look at.
3:04:53We would not be able to plan very well
3:04:55we don't know that vendors are even going to agree
3:04:58to be able to work with us.
3:05:00And frankly even if this is you know a little bit
3:05:04you know hopefully where we're able to leave
3:05:07our houses by July.
3:05:08But at that point do we still want
3:05:10to be responsible for an event where hundreds if not thousands
3:05:14of people are in very close contact with one
3:05:17another so soon after all of this.
3:05:19And so again while I have had the authority to cancel events
3:05:23due to the local emergency I am also recommending to you
3:05:26tonight that we cancel July 4th and we make that public Other
3:05:31things that staff is looking at and we are indeed we are we can
3:05:35explore this further using even management partners as they
3:05:40work with several other cities to do exactly to exact to do
3:05:45exactly this would be to restructure city operations
3:05:48including look at things looking at things that we might be able
3:05:51to contract out restructuring perhaps recreation programs
3:05:56as we have talked about that before and just
3:05:58so you know I know that Chris is indeed
3:06:00working on diligently on a
3:06:04re engagement plan for the summer
3:06:06should the summer happen.
3:06:09And additionally you know the the the word that none of us
3:06:13really want to use but that would be to reduce layoffs
3:06:20of staff and management and staff positions Layoffs are
3:06:25a very complicated matter in all of our bargaining agreements
3:06:29and in our civil service rules they
3:06:31are written that way in order to indeed be a last resort.
3:06:35There are bumping rights there are seniority rights.
3:06:38There are a lot of of of of process
3:06:42that we have to go through in order to discuss layoffs.
3:06:45But I think as you know nothing is off the table at this point
3:06:48but we are actively looking at what all of that means.
3:06:54Additionally as far as management is concerned
3:06:56I think I talked about this earlier.
3:06:59I will be working with human resources
3:07:02right now to prepare for you.
3:07:04The resolution for management and confidential staff
3:07:08the current resolution it will expires
3:07:11at the end of the fiscal year.
3:07:12I have already talked to the management staff
3:07:15so they are aware that my recommendation
3:07:19or this resolution will come to you will be
3:07:22for no increases in salary there would be
3:07:26no cost of living adjustments.
3:07:28It would include additional cutting
3:07:30of discretionary benefits including the Car Allowance.
3:07:33It would include us looking at health benefits
3:07:36and capping fees capping fees and looking
3:07:40at an additional cost sharing with if that's possible
3:07:45once our once our health benefits come online which is
3:07:49not till the end of the year.
3:07:51And I will.
3:07:52I will be requiring an additional payment
3:07:55to retirement benefits Currently there is you know
3:07:59there are two 2 calculations.
3:08:02There are the employer contribution
3:08:04and the employee contribution.
3:08:06The employees have been paying their full share
3:08:08of this contribution for quite some time in our public safety
3:08:12bargaining units.
3:08:13They have additionally been paying more into above
3:08:17and beyond the employee contribution
3:08:18into the employer contribution miscellaneous staff has not
3:08:22done that at this time and that is what
3:08:25I will be looking at having the management
3:08:28and confidential staff do.
3:08:30We could Additionally look at that further
3:08:32with all miscellaneous staff but that
3:08:34is again subject to negotiation with bargaining units.
3:08:38So I can't make that assumption but at this time
3:08:42there's no bargaining unit for management and confidential.
3:08:44So that is designated by City Council resolution.
3:08:49I have again told them this I don't
3:08:50know if they'll develop the bargaining unit in response
3:08:53to this.
3:08:54But at this time that is they they've
3:08:57been they're aware of that and that is what at the minimum
3:09:01we will be providing you in a resolution
3:09:03for the next fiscal year.
3:09:07So at this point I can certainly take questions
3:09:11on anything specific but I think that at this time having
3:09:15management partners here to help lead
3:09:18the rest of the conversation as to what the City Council is
3:09:22interested in having us come back at the next council
3:09:25meeting to discuss we know that you all of this
3:09:29expected to continue to review the current and upcoming
3:09:33process.
3:09:34There that we have had as as extending the budget process
3:09:41perhaps what the city of San Francisco is doing some of you
3:09:46may know is that they are going to look at passing a continuing
3:09:50resolution so that once this is over
3:09:52and revenues have a better we have a better understanding
3:09:56of where revenue loss will actually be than we can make
3:09:59better adjustments to our budget later
3:10:02on in the summer that doesn't mean
3:10:03we're not gonna have a budget.
3:10:04It means that we would reduce the budget
3:10:06to love to at least these levels if the 2 million
3:10:10dollar level and more for July 1st
3:10:13and then we can reassess at the end of the summer
3:10:15and do a full budget process with the budget
3:10:17book and all of those things.
3:10:19So if that would be the something
3:10:23that the council would like to provide direction
3:10:24to staff to to work on that.
3:10:26Again this is such a fluid process.
3:10:29This is by all means the hardest thing to try to contemplate.
3:10:36This is just obviously we were in financial challenges
3:10:39before that is that is clear.
3:10:41I have brought that out as much as as I can But this everything
3:10:48is changing and so it's a fluid situation
3:10:51and we are just trying to react as best we can.
3:10:55With what comes before us.
3:10:57So at that point I can stop talking and thinking.
3:11:02So I do have both personnel your hand was
3:11:07up first and then Gabe your hand and then
3:11:10I'll go to Janet and Paul.
3:11:12So some questions for Karen or management partners
3:11:16at this time.
3:11:17Rochelle Hi Karen.
3:11:21My first question is where I guess my my main question is
3:11:27when you're looking at the chart that people can see at home
3:11:34the general fund reductions by department
3:11:37the middle line fiscal year 2019 to 20 under budget
3:11:43some of the spaces have been left blank.
3:11:46For example the police personnel which shows
3:11:49some of our biggest reductions.
3:11:51Can you explain why that was left blank.
3:11:54Yes I'm sorry I had to do that thank
3:11:56for reminding me in that chart.
3:11:59What the majority of the vast majority of all
3:12:02of the reductions in there were assigned from a certain account
3:12:06code line item and so for the police departments reductions
3:12:11those that all of those numbers includes several different line
3:12:16items I had left that I had left those the account
3:12:21code blank to try to avoid confusion because there were so
3:12:25many account codes that that total added up
3:12:27to so Unfortunately I may have caused more confusion
3:12:30by seeming it to show that there was no budget for it
3:12:33before That is not true.
3:12:35Those numbers in the proposed reduction column are
3:12:39includes salary and all benefits though it
3:12:42is a total of several different account codes
3:12:45that I left blank.
3:12:46So I hope so.
3:12:48I apologize for trying to avoid confusion
3:12:50but creating any more confusion Thank you.
3:12:55Don't go to Mr. Kendall I wanted to discuss with Karen
3:13:10and regarding service reductions and looking what in future
3:13:23dealing with outsourcing and outsourcing departments
3:13:29one department that many cities have outsourced the cities
3:13:37of Fremont the city of San Francisco
3:13:42has outsourced senior service And they hired nurses
3:13:48and Professional Geriatric the people
3:13:53with degrees dealing with that and sites want to make sure
3:13:57that we look at everything including that
3:14:01And another thing I wanted to make sure
3:14:04that we look at dealing with outsourcing
3:14:08is you know the hillside.
3:14:12For example we can barely keep up
3:14:15with what we have now in dealing with vegetation management.
3:14:23I am hoping that we can look at the possibility of having East
3:14:28Bay Regional Parks look at that and see if they would like
3:14:32to take that over it will still be
3:14:35part of the city of also Rita.
3:14:37But looking at the maintenance and what needs to be done
3:14:41we don't have the money and our people are our residents.
3:14:46The nails are asking month after month e-mail after e-mail.
3:14:50When is this going to happen.
3:14:52And we don't have the funds to make it happen so I suggest
3:14:55that we look out to outsourcing and outsourcing the hillside
3:15:00area so I'm hoping that my colleagues
3:15:04will agree with me on this just to see is this worth doing.
3:15:08But I know it will save a lot of money
3:15:11over time for our firefighters and for personnel.
3:15:15Thank and thank you.
3:15:19Council member Abe Wilson here is
3:15:22your phone stable at this time.
3:15:24We were breaking up before.
3:15:26Let me.
3:15:29Yeah.
3:15:29Your your phone is breaking up.
3:15:32And so my advice to me Greg.
3:15:36Yes.
3:15:37Yes Janet okay.
3:15:39I dunno what to do about it if it's breaking Yeah.
3:15:43Do you want to try from a different phone
3:15:47Do you have another phone in the house.
3:15:50Well I can't seem to get through.
3:15:53Yeah I find I'm just trying to reconnect.
3:15:57I can hear her just coming in here.
3:16:00I can hear her.
3:16:02Okay.
3:16:02All right.
3:16:03I'm having difficulty so maybe it's my land.
3:16:06Yeah.
3:16:08The the.
3:16:11I feel like what I want to say is
3:16:13more of a comment and a question but I
3:16:15think it's really important in this area
3:16:17and no one has in that has to do with the impact of the virus
3:16:25problem on people's behavior.
3:16:31And I mean people's behavior.
3:16:33People in society not like individually one person does
3:16:38say one patient there's that but what I'm beginning to observe
3:16:43is that people are starting to behave
3:16:47in a pattern that's very different than they've
3:16:52ever behaved before.
3:16:55And certainly in my time anywhere and it
3:16:59may impact all of the things that we do.
3:17:03And so I think that's going to interact with all of the budget
3:17:08planning we're talking about and I'm
3:17:11concerned that it may be you know an
3:17:15and it may have a negative financial impact on us.
3:17:20For purposes of this conversation.
3:17:23So I want to make sure that as we talk about things that we
3:17:28eyes in the back of our minds say but maybe
3:17:31people aren't going to go back to behaving
3:17:34the way they used to.
3:17:35That they're going to behave in a new pattern.
3:17:38And so I just wanted to put that on the table
3:17:42because I'm really concerned about it.
3:17:45And just because they you know went swimming classes
3:17:52before maybe they won't want the kids to go to swimming classes
3:17:58now because they're afraid they'll
3:17:59get the virus even though the virus is kind of going
3:18:03away for the time being.
3:18:06And anyway I just wanted to say that because I
3:18:09think it will have an impact on a lot of things.
3:18:13That's right.
3:18:13Thank you councilwoman.
3:18:16Still any questions.
3:18:20Yes.
3:18:21Can you hear me.
3:18:22Yes yes.
3:18:23Thank you.
3:18:25OK.
3:18:25Karen and Nancy maybe both of Karen
3:18:27I'm glad you keep your list was very comprehensive.
3:18:32I'm glad you said all of the things
3:18:33that you said because that those are some of the listed things
3:18:37I and we had mentioned previously.
3:18:41I wanted to just reiterate or go through again
3:18:45the process going forward and our staff
3:18:48coming up with alternatives.
3:18:50While there may be or an audit ending and we
3:18:54proceed in full throttle.
3:18:57And then as you say we visit again in September because I'd
3:19:02like to not wait for that It may have
3:19:06on overtime or other issues to other questions and so I can.
3:19:12I did reach out to the state auditors office
3:19:15and unfortunately which is not at all surprised they've
3:19:19let me know that they just don't they they don't
3:19:21have a timetable right now for when
3:19:23they're going to come to us.
3:19:25I offered.
The City Manager set out further reductions, including a pension contribution proposal that turns on which groups had already conceded.
She said she would recommend reducing library hours, and recommended canceling the Fourth of July, citing lost sponsorships, uncertain vendors and the risk of a large gathering. Layoffs remained possible but were a last resort under the bargaining agreements and civil service rules. The resolution for management and confidential staff would include no salary or cost of living increase, further cuts to discretionary benefits including car allowances, and a look at capping health costs.
The structure: “there are the employer contribution and the employee contribution.”
What the safety units had already done: “the employees have been paying their full share of this contribution for quite some time in our public safety bargaining units. They have additionally been paying more… above and beyond the employee contribution, into the employer contribution.”
So police and fire were already paying part of the city's share before any of this.
Against that: “miscellaneous staff has not done that at this time — and that is what I will be looking at having the management and confidential staff do.”
The reason she can act on one group and not the others: “at this time there's no bargaining unit for management and confidential. So that is designated by City Council resolution.”
Then the sentence that anticipates the consequence: “I have told them this. I don't know if they'll develop the bargaining unit in response to this.”
The additional 1 percent contribution is adopted (2 Jun 2020).
She also floated a continuing resolution, as San Francisco planned, setting the budget at least $2 million lower from 1 July and returning with a full budget after the summer. Pardue-Okimoto asked why some prior-year cells in the chart were blank; the City Manager said the police reductions combined several account codes. Quinto asked staff to look at outsourcing senior services and handing hillside vegetation management to East Bay Regional Parks. Abelson worried that people's behavior might not return to its old patterns, with financial effects. Fadelli said the state auditor's office had given no timetable for its review.
Public safety employees were already paying into the employer share “above and beyond the employee contribution.” Management and confidential staff have no bargaining unit, so their terms are set by Council resolution; the City Manager says she has told them, and does not know whether they will form a bargaining unit in response.
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3:19:26Is there a way to do any part of this electronically
3:19:29or digitally and they just really weren't able to provide
3:19:32me with an answer and I'm I'm not surprised this is
3:19:34everything is just really on hold
3:19:37I'm sure the state has a lot going on as well so.
3:19:40So we really don't know.
3:19:43My take is that I would like to continue
3:19:46to move forward and perhaps then the auditor when they
3:19:50come in they can grade us on what we on the work
3:19:54we've done so far.
3:19:55Right.
3:19:56Are is addressing all of the matters
3:19:58that they've discussed if they're if we haven't then then
3:20:02they can assist us with that all of the things that have been
3:20:06brought up are certainly most of it again
3:20:09is was not a surprise to us.
3:20:11And so you know as we are taking these steps
3:20:15you know to help in that in that way
3:20:20if they were able to provide that for us.
3:20:22But again I I certainly don't want what
3:20:26we obviously can't wait to cut.
3:20:28We can't wait to work out what our budget will look
3:20:31like but I'm hoping that by the time
3:20:33the state auditor is able to come to us that they can can
3:20:35they can be helpful for us when they're able to.
3:20:40I think that's good.
3:20:42I don't think we should be waiting
3:20:43for them to get their report.
3:20:45They need to move especially with the epidemic that's making
3:20:48us need to move faster Secondly I
3:20:52had a concern when I looked at the cuts I didn't know it
3:20:55all the more.
3:20:56Some of them were generic from community development
3:20:59that we just don't have any economic development
3:21:03efforts proactively to seek revenues in this city.
3:21:07I see that as a real problem that we have going forward
3:21:11is that we don't have a real generator of potential revenue.
3:21:14And I'm hoping when we do get a budget that that may be the one
3:21:18place we can have some cost to so
3:21:22that we can seek revenue makers or seek
3:21:25opportunities to make revenue.
3:21:28I'm open to discussions on this but I just
3:21:30think where we're cut cut cutting we need to be doing
3:21:34going on the other side of the ledger
3:21:36as well I don't know if you have any comments on that.
3:21:40And I and I hear you and I think one of the things
3:21:43we have been lacking particularly
3:21:45staff wise is anyone dedicated to our
3:21:52We have had actually that position open for quite
3:21:56some time and I'm certainly not seeking to add anyone
3:22:00as you have heard me say.
3:22:01We have a hiring freeze right now.
3:22:03And I don't anticipate that anywhere for the near future
3:22:07which is unfortunate and we have as you know a very small
3:22:12staff to be able to do that.
3:22:14So and if we're going to have an even smaller staff again
3:22:19some of these things are going to have to either be repurposed
3:22:22or restructured or we would have to look at additional avenues
3:22:28perhaps consultants that people hate.
3:22:32Sorry Nancy and Steve but the idea
3:22:34of having to hire consultants.
3:22:35But you know again kind of what comes into it was discussing
3:22:40earlier when it comes to contracting
3:22:43when it comes to hiring consultants to do this work.
3:22:46I just want make sure that you know what may part time FDLE
3:22:49said is true there are costs involved
3:22:52in that and the outsourcing or hiring consultants.
3:22:57And you know without having staff to do it
3:23:00the work still has to get done.
3:23:02And so it's not necessarily a cost savings.
3:23:05It's not necessarily something that can bring in revenue
3:23:08is obviously something you would have to do the cost benefit
3:23:11analysis or but some of the work still
3:23:15has to be able to get done for example
3:23:17if I were to outsource our administrative services.
3:23:19I still have to pay payroll.
3:23:21I still have to do human resources.
3:23:23I still have to issue permits.
3:23:26There might not be a short term savings
3:23:28by contracting out or hiring a consultant
3:23:30to do some of that work.
3:23:31But the long term savings would then be in our purse costs
3:23:34for example or our benefit costs.
3:23:36So again as we're looking to do either consulting hiring
3:23:40consultants or hiring staff or outsourcing work all of that
3:23:44is what we're doing right now which
3:23:46is the cost benefit analysis board will
3:23:49it get us revenue that is.
3:23:50That is absolutely something to consider as well as what
3:23:54will save us down the line.
3:23:55And so again that's economic pressure.
3:23:59Are you saying you're not going to recommend that
3:24:01but that could be a direction that council takes
3:24:04when we deal with the budget.
3:24:05Right.
3:24:06If we do want to have economic development effort in our city
3:24:11when we're real quick this is Nancy one thing to kind of keep
3:24:15in mind too is there's that urgency
3:24:16in the near term and the strategy
3:24:18is that you're going to want to analyze and evaluate
3:24:21or impact in the near term.
3:24:23And then there are those options as strategies
3:24:26that have a longer horizon I think currencies.
3:24:27But you were alluding to as well as some some those things you
3:24:32might have to put a stall on now where you kind of stabilize
3:24:35and make sure that you're in a stable position financially
3:24:40but then taking a longer view.
3:24:42You don't lose sight of you because that's that's fair
3:24:45and you should be.
3:24:47But keeping in mind the kind of the urgency of the day as well.
3:24:51Yeah.
3:24:52A quick final question Greg is it
3:24:56for if we're gonna be absent our big advance especially July
3:25:00Fourth Karen is there any role for the arts budget
3:25:04that can be used.
3:25:05It's not a show.
3:25:06It's not a small amount of money but are there
3:25:08artistic endeavors we could use in that direction
3:25:13for the July 4th festival or the money
3:25:16in the arts commission budget.
3:25:19If we're not going to do well if we're not going like we're
3:25:22not going to do July Fourth.
3:25:24Are there ways to think that budgets up
3:25:26to close to two hundred thousand dollars or something.
3:25:30Yes.
3:25:31The Public Art Fund as you know is
3:25:34was created through arts Public Places program
3:25:36in order to provide all sorts different kinds of public art
3:25:41to the city not just you know structure or sculptures
3:25:45but programs as well and as you know
3:25:47that was a discussion with the Arts and Culture Commission
3:25:50to provide public art funding to July 4th.
3:25:52At this point what I would like to do
3:25:54is take a look at the ordinance to see if there are
3:25:59if there are programs that we could then
3:26:00shift to the Public Art Fund.
3:26:02The issue with the public fund as you know
3:26:04is is there maybe a sizable balance there now
3:26:06but that is literally one time money that will be depleted.
3:26:10So we just have to make that we are
3:26:12very very cautious about that.
3:26:13Unlike Measure H moving some expenses to Measure
3:26:16H which is every Are we able to get that public art.
3:26:20This is our time of need.
3:26:22This is our time of need.
3:26:23So thank you.
3:26:25Thank you.
3:26:25At an all special as well.
3:26:28At this time I'd like to go to public comment
3:26:31we'll come back to council.
3:26:33But I'd like to go to public comment
3:26:34so that we can get the public comment in for 10 30
3:26:38and then we can consider or extending our meeting.
3:26:44So city clerk are you able to.
3:26:52Yes without echo okay.
3:26:55I apologize for the technical difficulty earlier.
3:26:58So I am going to pull up our information here.
3:27:02So the first thing I want to do is
3:27:05share again the comments that were received by 12:00
3:27:07today were posted on the city website
3:27:10as supplemental material and provided directly to the city
3:27:13council members comments for this agenda item
3:27:15were received by the following individuals
3:27:17listed on the screen.
3:27:19This includes Michael Fisher L. Miller wrote
3:27:22Sam Daniel Schulman Marlene George
3:27:26Susan Duncan and Paul Duncan.
3:27:29So those are all available to the public on our website
3:27:32and have been provided to you in addition
3:27:34to those we did receive additional five submissions
3:27:38for public comment which With your permission there
3:27:41I will proceed with the three minute time limit
3:27:43for the yes please Perfect.
3:27:51We will start with the first submission
3:27:53from Mike Cunningham in three minutes starting 30 now.
3:28:03It is surprising how little pain seems
3:28:05to be required for the city to cut 2 million from its budget.
3:28:09One wonders why the city did not pursue such belt tightening
3:28:12immediately upon the state auditors warning
3:28:15or during the three years of growing concern warning
3:28:19or during the 10 years in which the city repeatedly felt
3:28:22necessary and appropriate to ask residents to dig
3:28:25into their pockets to support the city
3:28:27with for new general fun taxes because city leaders failed
3:28:32to competently and responsibly manage
3:28:34the budget over many years and failed to build and maintain
3:28:38even a modest preserve.
3:28:39The cuts ahead of us will require
3:28:41pain keep in mind residents are already burying their share
3:28:45of pain thanks to those for new taxes Eldorado residents now
3:28:50shoulder the highest local tax rate in the entire state
3:28:53of California.
3:28:55As things for residents generosity the city spend
3:28:58freely to the brink of insolvency
3:29:00while providing residents with general fund services that are
3:29:03average at best only our library hours festivals and Senior
3:29:08Services rise above the minimum level of
3:29:11must do activities of the city This time
3:29:15the city needs to look inward first
3:29:17before cutting services to residents
3:29:19or raising taxes yet again.
3:29:21Start by rolling back senior management salaries that have
3:29:24grown without regard to the city's broken and disregarded
3:29:28median compensation policy and that in any case the city
3:29:32cannot afford to pay eliminate overtime pay for FLSA exempt
3:29:37managers reduce the fire departments and reimburse
3:29:41overtime over reliance on uniformed personnel for non
3:29:45response activity and top heavy staffing eliminate contracting
3:29:50for all professional services that can be performed by staff
3:29:54reduce the cost of providing Senior Services which preserve
3:29:58while preserving their most important function and once
3:30:02passed past the immediate crisis plan to fully restructure fire
3:30:06safety negotiate sustainable pension and undertake
3:30:10economic development efforts.
3:30:13It's the city's habit to blame others
3:30:15for its fiscal difficulties.
3:30:17But if the city had been willing to maintain a budget
3:30:19without structural imbalances and with even a modest 10
3:30:22percent reserve it would not be facing
3:30:25immediate financial catastrophe from Corona virus
3:30:28or from any recession.
3:30:30That's the whole point of a reserve
3:30:32and it's why the state auditor raised the red flag
3:30:34that the city tried so hard to wave away make sure by the way
3:30:39to discuss tonight whether this city will be able to secure
3:30:42a new cash flow loan in July.
3:30:44And what are the city's options and plans if it cannot and asks
3:30:49Rick from above for median compensation policy fail
3:30:52Alfredo has not done a comparison with other city 2014
3:30:57and even then it appears that it used the median as the top
3:31:00of the ranges as comparison cities to set the middle
3:31:04of three those ranges which would automatic make
3:31:07Alfredo's salaries substantially higher than comparison city
3:31:11that was submitted by Mike Cunningham Alfredo resident
3:31:17and I will continue on to the next submission
3:31:20which is from this business and I will
3:31:24be in her three minutes now.
3:31:28There is no question that Elsa Rita
3:31:29is in dire financial straits despite the blood.
3:31:32Attitude of the city's financial finance director
3:31:36the persistent non non mention of the issue
3:31:39by the city manager and the host of residents
3:31:41and council members alike.
3:31:43The state auditor our independent
3:31:45auditor and Standard and Poor's analysis cannot all be wrong.
3:31:49We are in trouble and let us not pretend otherwise In my opinion
3:31:53top city staff has been grossly incompetent in handling City
3:31:56Finance finances and is advising and informing the city council
3:32:01but council members did not question things making you
3:32:04a betters in the Berkshire because you in effect
3:32:07allowed and are still allowing staff to continue the flimflam.
3:32:12However we now rely on you not on the staff
3:32:15that forwarded the machine machine and nation
3:32:18to lead us out this mess.
3:32:21You already know all the numbers and actions that
3:32:24contributed to our situation.
3:32:26If you don't know these numbers you are not paying attention
3:32:29because we residents have found and posted
3:32:31every detail something staff should have done for you.
3:32:35A few residents know this information
3:32:37but most do not because they have not been overtly
3:32:40informed about this situation and little surveys
3:32:43about desired improvements or a narrowly advertised Town
3:32:46Hall will not do We don't have a newspaper that
3:32:50reports anything that might disturb Eldorado staff
3:32:53and or council.
3:32:54We have no way to get the word out
3:32:57to the bulk of city residents.
3:32:59The city is in trouble and most of the residents
3:33:01have no idea I suspect the City Council could float a ballot
3:33:05measure for a new library right now
3:33:07and most residents would naively vote
3:33:09yes This all needs to stop you.
3:33:13Our city council needs to step up.
3:33:15We need serious cuts to salaries and personnel.
3:33:18For starters I have tenants who are working full time from home
3:33:22while their salaries have been cut in half.
3:33:25What about our staff.
3:33:27Are any of them feeling that same pain Finally
3:33:30we need the entire city to know what is going on.
3:33:33Remember the consultants and all the glossy mailings
3:33:37used for every new tack or for library bond.
3:33:41You didn't fool around then when you wanted
3:33:43people to know certain things.
3:33:45We need some truth here and some get
3:33:48It is time that all our city council members
3:33:51step up something that our staff does not
3:33:53being able or willing to do.
3:33:55Yeah that was submitted by B.J..
3:33:57Myself to read about that continuing on
3:34:05to the next mission which is committed by Kathy Handel Rita
3:34:10resident and starting her three minutes now First I want
3:34:16it read into the public record that we are at the point
3:34:19financial devastation due to major incompetence by staff
3:34:22allowed by the City Council Fab has
3:34:25been pushing for increased reserves
3:34:26for at least several years.
3:34:29Instead big raises were given to staff employees
3:34:31and nothing was put into reserve and we
3:34:33ended last year with a deficit.
Fadelli raised the city's lack of economic development, and asked about the arts budget.
Fadelli wanted to move ahead without waiting for the state auditor, and said the city had no proactive economic development effort to find revenue. The City Manager said the economic development position had long been open, the hiring freeze would continue, and outsourcing or consultants needed a cost-benefit analysis.
The distinction: some options “you're going to want to analyze and evaluate… in the near term,” while others “have a longer horizon.”
Their advice on sequencing: some things “you might have to put a stall on now, where you… stabilize and make sure that you're in a stable position financially — but then taking a longer view. You don't lose sight of” those.
Then the practical question: with the Fourth of July festival not happening, “is there any role for the arts budget that can be used?”
His reasoning: “it's not a small amount of money — but are there artistic endeavors we could use in that direction… [or] the money in the arts commission budget?”
The City Manager said the Public Art Fund can pay for programs, not only sculptures, and she would check the ordinance for programs to shift to it, but it is one-time money that would be depleted.
The arts fund's use for the library is taken up at the next special meeting (25 Apr 2020).
Public comment on the item followed. One written comment said the cuts should have come when the state auditor warned, called for rolling back senior management salaries and cutting overtime, and asked what the city would do if it could not secure a cash flow loan in July. Another said city finances had been mishandled by staff, and called for serious cuts to salaries and personnel and for informing all residents.
With the Fourth of July canceled, Fadelli asks whether the arts budget could be used. The City Manager says the Public Art Fund can pay for programs but is one-time money. The arts fund's use for the library is taken up later (25 Apr 2020).
15 Short-sighted captions 3701–4000
3:34:36And while these current cuts are a good start
3:34:38they should have been done in October after the state auditor
3:34:41raised the alarm instead of listening to the red flags made
3:34:45by the state auditor staff and council
3:34:48have resisted making any but the most minimal and cuts.
3:34:51And now you are getting a set produced
3:34:54by expensive consultants saying L3 don't need to act now
3:34:59and that a recession is coming in the next three years
3:35:02and bringing up the idea of bankruptcy right now.
3:35:05We must address making cuts to see if that can be avoided.
3:35:09But a very serious look at the incompetent
3:35:12and lack of action that brought us here needs to happen at the.
3:35:17How can we trust the people who brought
3:35:19us to the current brink of bankruptcy
3:35:21to save us from the same.
3:35:23While these cuts make us start more substantial cuts
3:35:28need need to be made.
3:35:31My suggestion rollback wages to 2016 This then in itself
3:35:36could solve most of our problem.
3:35:38Cut the fourth of July for 2020 and use that sixty thousand
3:35:42to keep the library open the additional hours the Fourth
3:35:45of July will now be a health and safety
3:35:47issues to the question of me.
3:35:50This package shows many reasons why
3:35:52the additional library hours are needed and end
3:35:55up with unemployment soaring.
3:35:57There will be even more need.
3:36:00Reduce the use of all consultants
3:36:02unless there is a council decision that they are needed
3:36:05address the growth in inefficiency of the fire
3:36:08department looking at overtime costs versus staffing
3:36:12charging for EMT and the structure of the department
3:36:15along with the Kensington contract contract.
3:36:19There is no reason that the department cannot keep
3:36:22us fire safe within the budget.
3:36:25They have all travel and training
3:36:27must be cut unless specifically approved by council.
3:36:30These are a few suggestions I hope you will
3:36:32quickly can make the necessary.
3:36:36Thank you and that concludes this submission.
3:36:42The next is submitted by Sherry.
3:36:44ROVNER also re read thanks guarding her three minutes.
3:36:47Now your mayor.
3:36:50City council members and city manager
3:36:52the 5 percent target for budget reductions
3:36:55is no longer a baseline.
3:36:56If we address the loss of revenue to our city
3:36:59due to the pandemic I would hope that the city's finance
3:37:02department with the city manager offer
3:37:04the City Council several alternative
3:37:06scenarios by the next meeting.
3:37:08It's obvious that the 10 percent reduction also discussed
3:37:11at a previous meeting which is which in a good time
3:37:16would help us build the required reserves
3:37:19is now more likely to likely the minimum reduction required
3:37:23I realize there are a lot of moving parts
3:37:25that perhaps there may be some relief for cities etc.
3:37:29but please offer a range of options that
3:37:31encapsulate the best and worst case
3:37:34so that we are all prepared.
3:37:36It feels that we are still playing catch up.
3:37:37Discussing a 5 percent reduction as we look at the cut
3:37:41we can also be thinking about revenue
3:37:43and how we might mitigate those cuts.
3:37:46Now's the time to go full throttle ahead and look
3:37:49at as many options and.
3:37:50And scenarios.
3:37:52Sincerely Sherry.
3:37:53Our Alfredo moving on to the fifth and final comments
3:38:00submitted This is from Howdy Gowdy El tweeter resident.
3:38:03I'm going to start his three minutes now.
3:38:07Dear Mayor Lyman and council members I sympathize with them.
3:38:11I'm enviable tough cuts necessary budget
3:38:17particularly with the new layer of people caused by the cause
3:38:2119 health an economic crisis amidst
3:38:24the current context it is critically important
3:38:27to remember the climate emergency declaration
3:38:29that this city made at the end of 2009
3:38:32The climate emergency is still with us
3:38:35and frankly is much bigger and long lasting or lasting
3:38:38than coordinating the current pandemic
3:38:41is a strong reminder of the importance of preparation
3:38:44and action for a known challenges we must
3:38:47confront like climate change.
3:38:49Please do not lose sight of the importance
3:38:52to continue meaningful action on reducing
3:38:54climate impacts even as we weather the current hardships.
3:38:59The presentation for this study session
3:39:01is light on options for raising new revenue
3:39:03for the city budget.
3:39:04Perhaps because of the imminent economic contraction
3:39:08and the perceived resistance to new and raise taxes
3:39:11under the circumstances I am actually not opposing
3:39:15and opposed to new taxes that are thoughtfully designed
3:39:18to avoid regressive impacts even if a general fund
3:39:22tax is currently unpopular.
3:39:24It would be interesting to consider the potential
3:39:26for a targeted tax to fund climate
3:39:28action such as restructuring the utility user tax UTI
3:39:33to incentivize the reduction of natural gas shortage
3:39:37by having a higher tax on natural gas compared
3:39:39to electricity with far lower carbon emission
3:39:44without a dedicated stream of resources for climate action
3:39:47the near term city budget will not be able to support
3:39:50much climate action hopefully there
3:39:53is a great deal of public support
3:39:54to raise funds for climate action
3:39:56particularly if the programs help residents make
3:40:00meaningful transition fostering local action
3:40:03will also serve as an important job creation
3:40:05center in a challenging time.
3:40:08Likewise on other topics I urge you to have overthinking basis
3:40:12of action regarding the budget cuts
3:40:14under these difficult circumstances as an example.
3:40:17It is short sighted to choose to save money by reducing library
3:40:21hours a public service that promotes
3:40:23so many positive public benefit that
3:40:26will slowly impact our future.
3:40:27If they are neglected.
3:40:29Below is a cartoon depicting the Kochs igniting curve
3:40:32flattening left to the necessary climate
3:40:35change curve flattening right.
3:40:38And this source is cited and the picture is up on the screen
3:40:42and that concludes the public comment
3:40:45on this item at this time.
3:40:51Great thank you very much.
3:40:54It is now ten twenty seven of recall you have have your hand
3:40:59up so we'll go to you first but I would love it if somebody
3:41:03could extend the meeting let's try twenty minutes then moved
3:41:12move by Purdue Okamoto seconded by Wilson
3:41:14do we need roll call for this yes we do.
3:41:19May Lyman.
3:41:20Yes.
3:41:22May I pretend that only yes.
3:41:26Council member Ableton.
3:41:28Yes.
3:41:30Captain member party Okamoto.
3:41:33Yes.
3:41:35Council Yes.
3:41:38OK.
3:41:39I should carry ROCHELLE Your hand was up first.
3:41:44Go and.
3:41:47OK.
3:41:47So the first thing I wanted to say
3:41:50was that when looking back through the presentation today.
3:41:58One thing I noticed that really stood out to me was the.
3:42:02Hold on I'm going to plug in my my OK.
3:42:14So what are the things I notice in the presentation today was
3:42:20that granted this was a few weeks before the situation
3:42:24we're in right now that our residents top priority
3:42:27is schools and education and there's not a lot that the city
3:42:32does with schools.
3:42:33But there is stuff that we do with education.
3:42:36And the biggest thing we do with education is the library.
3:42:41It's the library.
3:42:43In addition to the library it's our after school programs
3:42:47it's our summer camps that's where we teach kids.
3:42:50That's where we teach the community.
3:42:52And also at our senior center we do
3:42:55some education there as well.
3:42:57In terms of computer training and other events.
3:43:00So to have the first thing on the chopping block
3:43:03be the library just seems completely ridiculous to me.
3:43:08One hundred thousand dollars in a 50 million dollar budget.
3:43:11I think there's many other line item that we can look at.
3:43:16It seems to me like when we pass the additional library hours
3:43:22that somehow it got left out of the budget
3:43:25I don't really understand how that
3:43:27happens so they're squeezing into the city council budget
3:43:32at this time.
3:43:34I'm not sure how all of that happened but it seems to me
3:43:37that when we make that a priority somehow it got
3:43:40left out as a priority and the feeling
3:43:43that we need to have the county pay for it
3:43:46all which can be debated.
3:43:48The fact is that when people think about El Serino
3:43:53one of the things they're going to think about in terms
3:43:56of the face to face day to day things
3:43:59that they go to is the library which will
3:44:02be even more heavily needed.
3:44:06Once this emergency event is is over as well
3:44:13I don't know if I'll ever be done.
3:44:14But when it comes down so I just wanted to to point that out.
3:44:20I just I just don't see how eliminating the library hours
3:44:26that we have put together you know everything else is looking
3:44:30at a 5 percent reduction.
3:44:32If we're looking at a 5 percent reduction
3:44:34of what we already have that might be something
3:44:36I could agree to.
3:44:37But elimination of the hundred thousand dollars plus
3:44:42is for me just the worst thing we could do to our residents
3:44:48So that's just where I wanted to start.
3:44:52Second otherwise I think that the what has been presented
3:44:58here is very it's a very good start
3:45:02and there is nothing on here that I don't feel like I can
3:45:07agree to at this time I agree that it seems like it's what
3:45:11we need to do at this time.
3:45:16Just one of those subjects that came on about the public art
3:45:19and one of the things we've had to reduce
3:45:21is those banners that are around town maybe that could be
3:45:24something that the public art could contribute to because I
3:45:29think that is one of those little cheerful things
3:45:30around town that we might need some cheering
3:45:35in the next few months.
3:45:37But other than that I think overall I like like what's
3:45:41been presented and I look forward
3:45:43to the other possible things that we might be able to do
3:45:50to save more money in the city And I really will once again
3:45:54say that we we want to make sure that whatever we do
3:46:01have the least impact on our residents as possible
3:46:05and start with things that we're where the residents are
3:46:09going to be impacted directly.
3:46:12And I think that the things here are a good start
3:46:18and I will be supporting it that's all great.
3:46:25Thank you.
3:46:27Council member Kito you are next Thank you Mayor.
3:46:34I wanted to echo what my colleague just mentioned
3:46:40regarding library hours.
3:46:43I wanted everyone to know that I did speak to Supervisor John
3:46:47Gioia regarding that and I did speak to our library
3:46:52Commissioner regarding the change.
3:46:57The changes that that are going to be done.
3:47:01I would like to see if our library foundation can help
3:47:07in funding part of that one hundred thousand dollar
3:47:11to to keep the hours for our children here
3:47:16and also to read out as it was mentioned earlier Elsa read
3:47:21I was has one of the highest educated residents here
3:47:25with more people graduating from college
3:47:29than then the cities around us I want
3:47:32to make sure that continues.
3:47:34So it's important for our young children
3:47:39to have the additional library hours.
3:47:42No doubt.
3:47:43But I have talked to the different mayors of the 19
3:47:48cities and they're going through the same thing
3:47:51that they have reached out to their supervisors.
3:47:54So we will have to fund this some way.
3:47:59So I'm hoping my the city's library foundation
3:48:04or part of the LC reader foundation
3:48:07can help us with this or we can reach out
3:48:12to the different foundations here in the Bay Area
3:48:15to see if they'll be able to help out.
3:48:18So again I am supporting the changes
3:48:23that we discussed and I look forward to the reductions
3:48:29of at least 5 percent.
3:48:31But I also want to make sure that we look at every avenue
3:48:36especially dealing with outsourcing
3:48:38and we're not getting the job done when it
3:48:41comes to vegetate management.
3:48:44And I want to make sure that the city is not
3:48:46responsible for fires that are caused by vegetation management
3:48:52that should have been done but because we don't
3:48:55have the manpower or the money.
3:48:57We just never did it.
3:48:58It's important to make sure public safety is number one
3:49:02and you know and I know the EPA parks
3:49:07they have the manpower they had the fire
3:49:09department to help in that.
3:49:12So again I just want to say thank you to all the residents
3:49:17who sent your e-mails.
3:49:20I disagree with many of the things that
3:49:22were said but now you know of cities work
3:49:27and and so I appreciate all the emails.
3:49:32I do not appreciate the attacks on our city manager
3:49:38and so I hope we can all deal with this together in
3:49:43a respectful way in the future.
3:49:45Thank you.
3:49:49Great.
3:49:50Thank you.
3:49:51And Councilman rapidly Your hand is up and then Janet will
3:49:55come to you after Paul OK No.
3:50:03You're on mute.
3:50:03Paul Here we go.
3:50:07Thank you.
3:50:09I'd like associate myself with the comments
3:50:11that Rachelle and part 2 all came onto me about the library
3:50:16and the banners.
3:50:17I think the banners is a great idea to fund the arts budget.
3:50:23I've said that everything should be on the table when we deal
3:50:26with the city's financial concerns
3:50:28that I believe the library should also be on the table
3:50:32but not by much I think the benefits to the library
3:50:35and the promises we've made to our citizens
3:50:37need need to stay in a small 5 to 10
3:50:41percent cut is all that I would be willing to accept.
3:50:45And I want to associate my comments with Gabriel Quinto
3:50:49about the fire the issues of our other disaster
3:50:52that we've been talking about until recently.
3:50:56But we have a bigger mountain to climb now.
3:50:59I agree with that too.
3:51:01The two million dollar proposal I
3:51:03think the city has done a great job in finding these things
3:51:06and I want to thank the city manager that I think we get
3:51:09back to what I said earlier We're coming to a point
3:51:12where we need to deal with.
3:51:13What services do we want to provide
3:51:16and how many people can we afford to provide them.
3:51:20It's a tough choice but if we're winning either jobs or services
3:51:25for our citizens I'm going to fear on the side of services
3:51:28because I think we can provide with some creative budget
The remaining written comments were read, and councilmembers responded on the library.
One comment proposed rolling back wages to 2016, canceling the Fourth of July and using its roughly $60,000 for library hours, charging for EMT calls, and cutting consultants and travel. Another asked staff to offer alternative scenarios, saying a 10 percent reduction was now more likely the minimum. A third, from Howdy Goudey, asked the Council to remember the climate emergency declaration and proposed a targeted tax for climate action.
The climate proposal: “incentivize the reduction of natural gas” use “by having a higher tax on natural gas compared to electricity, with far lower carbon emission[s].”
The constraint acknowledged: “without a dedicated stream of resources for climate action, the near term city budget will not be able to support much climate action.”
His hope: “there is a great deal of public support to raise funds for climate action, particularly if the programs help residents make meaningful transition[s].”
And the co-benefit: “fostering local action will also serve as an important job creation” measure “in a challenging time.”
Then the specific warning: “it is short sighted to choose to save money by reducing library hours — a public service that promotes so many positive public benefit[s] that will slowly impact our future if they are neglected.”
He closed with a cartoon comparing the two curves being flattened: the covid curve and the climate one.
Pardue-Okimoto said residents' top priority in the survey was education, and the library is the city's main education service; cutting $100,000 from it should not be the first step, though she supported the rest and suggested the public art fund pay for street banners. Quinto had spoken to Supervisor Gioia and the library commissioner, hoped the library foundation could help fund the hours, urged outsourcing vegetation management, and objected to the attacks on the City Manager in the comments. Fadelli would accept no more than a 5 to 10 percent cut to the library, backed the banners idea, and said the choice was which services the city can afford.
A written comment notes that without a dedicated revenue stream “the near term city budget will not be able to support much climate action,” and warns that cutting library hours is short-sighted. The library hours are decided later (25 Apr 2020).
16 “They're not giving us choices” captions 4001–4408
3:51:32management and re crafting how we provide
3:51:36personnel we can get this done.
3:51:39I want to get personal on a little bit here
3:51:41and I don't usually do this but I
3:51:43want to talk about that I've been on the other side
3:51:47of this issue.
3:51:50In my life and my old man my career and the at several
3:51:55incidents where I've been hit with either a budget my salary
3:52:01Frozen was frozen in the state capital during Schwarzenegger
3:52:05for four years I lost my job after 9/11 I worked
3:52:09for a telecom advocacy group because no one wanted to go
3:52:13to conventions lost my job with the baby and I had another
3:52:17salary freeze and apart from four years when there was
3:52:19transit budget fiscal deficit and I'm not saying that
3:52:24to bring the violin out but I'm saying that because this is
3:52:27simply what has to happen when when public
3:52:31agencies get into a fiscal crisis
3:52:33we have to cut and we have to
3:52:35deal with personnel either in funding or in the number
3:52:39of personnel that we employ.
3:52:41So I just want to say council is the staff
3:52:47has asked for our views on what we want to do.
3:52:50My deal is that we should focus now.
3:52:52The big mountain climb is on personnel whether it
3:52:56be public safety or not.
3:52:59I think we can do a good job if we do things creatively
3:53:03and we won the launch.
3:53:04This is the time is the time to do
3:53:06this now not two years from now not five years from now.
3:53:11But I want to thank the staff for moving forward.
3:53:15I also meet with Gabe that everybody needs
3:53:18to take a breath The council is all
3:53:20with us giving resolve this resolve and getting solve it.
3:53:25We will do this.
3:53:26I never thought there'd be more bigger
3:53:28crisis than fire management.
3:53:30We had an hour hills and now we have with over 19
3:53:35and our fiscal crisis.
3:53:37We want to do this.
3:53:38We appreciate your help.
3:53:40We appreciate your ideas and let's just move forward.
3:53:43Thank you Thank you Mayor.
3:53:49Council member Wilson I think that the crisis that we have
3:53:58before us right now is the biggest
3:54:00crisis we've had since Prop 13.
3:54:04And I wasn't on the City Council during the Prop 13 period.
3:54:10So I don't know all the details that happened then.
3:54:13And so maybe this is even a bigger crisis.
3:54:16But I do know that what happened as a result of that crisis
3:54:20and that was that you know the Java scanned
3:54:24the but the big change that went on that
3:54:31took a huge amount of money away from cities among other things.
3:54:36And the city went from having no engineers to no engineers
3:54:45and the engineers if you follow our city now and look
3:54:49at certain parts of it I can't.
3:54:52I think we have three engineers now
3:54:55and we have a huge they have a huge workload
3:54:58and so I can remember a day when things were really really bad
3:55:04and we slowly slowly slowly over time since then
3:55:10have built things back up and.
3:55:14And you know I made them what they are today in terms
3:55:19of the functions of the city.
3:55:22But when I really think about what the purpose of a city
3:55:25is in our city in particular I think what's the most important
3:55:31thing that our city does.
3:55:33And I think what that is is public safety.
3:55:37So we need to worry about public safety and then
3:55:42we we need to make sure that people's
3:55:47lives don't lose their lives.
3:55:49As a result of an incident that happens that to me
3:55:53is the number one things that we do
3:55:56and then the things that are what
3:56:01I would call quality of life things
3:56:03are important things for a city to do.
3:56:06But they I don't think that we give up public safety concerns
3:56:11that involve life saving so that we can do banners on San
3:56:18Pablo Avenue for example.
3:56:20And I think oh you know what I've got
3:56:24and it's not to say that I'm against banners
3:56:26like not but I think this is a period of time when we don't
3:56:30have the financial luxury to do certain things
3:56:35and we have to pick and choose and we have
3:56:38to make hard choices and I base based
3:56:45on what I think I heard said I support what the city
3:56:48manager is I think right.
3:56:51Are you recommending that Karen what you said either right.
3:56:57Right yes.
3:56:58Are you.
3:56:58The other thing is that the things you were talking about.
3:57:02Yes yes yes OK I support that I think this is this is not
3:57:09a time when everybody takes a 5 percent cut or something
3:57:14This is a time when we really have to get serious about it
3:57:19because we need we absolutely need to get our finances
3:57:25in order or or I I mean I can't imagine
3:57:31you know doing the bankruptcy.
3:57:33That's not the right way to go and we really
3:57:37have got to constrict what we're doing
3:57:43to the real bare essentials.
3:57:45And so when I go back to my what what's
3:57:48the purpose of a city what my first answer always is
3:57:52is public safety.
3:57:53That's why we exist to do that.
3:57:57And then after that there are other things that are
3:58:00have more to do with quality of life and other things
3:58:05so I guess I'll just leave it at that Thank you.
3:58:11Great.
3:58:11Thank you.
3:58:15I've got obviously going to take my opportunity to talk
3:58:18through a couple things.
3:58:21First of all I did reach out to the county librarian
3:58:29and I'm not.
3:58:31And her name is Melinda Melinda.
3:58:37Savannah And to ask about it not doing an all or nothing
3:58:43but doing some type of scaled solution and the response
3:58:49that we got back was that they're not in a position
3:58:52to give us a suggestion about a scaled solution
3:58:55for example closing Sundays.
3:58:58And but they did tell us that we need to tell them by May 1st.
3:59:04So we don't have a lot of time to to evaluate the choices
3:59:13because they're not giving us choices library
3:59:16although we certainly can talk about saying I mean I think
3:59:20in Mr. Fischer's report we're only one of two
3:59:24cities in the entire county of 19 that are open on Sundays
3:59:29and so we're obviously doing something
3:59:32different than the other cities or libraries.
3:59:37I can't remember which was libraries or cities.
3:59:41With regards to certainly guidance
3:59:44that we're going to give to the city manager with Garcia
3:59:47libraries it's either tonight or at our next meeting in April
3:59:50because we do need 60 days prior to the end of the fiscal year
3:59:53we need to give guidance to the county as to what we're doing.
3:59:57So I just want to give a sense of urgency around the library
4:00:01but in that point also ask you Karen when you council member
4:00:06Abel san did ask you about a number of things
4:00:09that you're doing that weren't necessarily published tonight
4:00:11you rattled off about canceling car allowances
4:00:15and cutting back on certain pay and such.
4:00:20When when were you planning on bringing those proposals
4:00:25and is proposal and when bringing the scorched earth
4:00:30proposal to us and I anticipated that
4:00:33and I anticipated that at the next council meeting
4:00:36we would be discussing the city council budget which does
4:00:41include the library hours as well Any additional direction
4:00:45for proposed reductions.
4:00:47I'm working with H.R. right now to prepare the resolution
4:00:50for the management group it was just announced to them
4:00:53last week I haven't had any further discussions with any
4:00:57of them but that would be if not the next meeting then
4:01:01sometime in May.
4:01:02We are also looking at bringing you the master
4:01:04fee schedule as well May.
4:01:07So we are indeed looking at revenue as well.
4:01:10But that would be again you know making some of these decisions
4:01:15that we are looking at particularly
4:01:17with respect to reducing staff is still in process.
4:01:21And again as I explained earlier lay the layoff process
4:01:24in particular is a complicated one
4:01:26that we need to make sure that we are going through all
4:01:29of those stages with any bargaining unit that
4:01:31is targeted If that is if that is what we're looking at you
4:01:36know again people equal services.
4:01:40But I mean particularly as far as the library I'm I actually
4:01:45have received a little bit more information today
4:01:48from the librarian than I can that I have some more questions
4:01:51of her to ask her as far as what that looks like what some
4:01:55of the scenarios looks like but they are
4:01:57hoping to have cost estimates to me next week
4:02:01which would be great.
4:02:03But just you know again so you know I
4:02:06I hear you as far as understanding
4:02:08that the Library hours are wanted and needed
4:02:12and that I agree.
4:02:15But we.
4:02:16But the reason that I'm recommending that we would
4:02:18not be closing the library.
4:02:20But what I am trying to let the council understand is that we
4:02:25need to cut services and this is one hundred
4:02:29plus thousand dollars actually the current cost estimate
4:02:32is one hundred twenty nine thousand dollars
4:02:34from the library that I would now
4:02:37need to find one hundred and twenty nine thousand dollars
4:02:39in our own staff that we wouldn't be paying that we
4:02:42would be paying to the library.
4:02:43I just need to make sure that the council understands what
4:02:46that means that we are paying one
4:02:48hundred twenty nine thousand dollars to county employees.
4:02:50That is one hundred twenty nine thousand dollars less than we
4:02:53are paying toward city employees or to city services Again
4:02:57we're going to be looking at reducing
4:02:59services across the board.
4:03:00I just need to make sure that you understand
4:03:03that as much as this hurts this is some of the things
4:03:06that staff has to recommend.
4:03:09And so to that to that end Karen one hundred and thirty thousand
4:03:13dollars for thirty five hours it's thirty almost thirty
4:03:17seven hundred dollars an hour.
4:03:19Certainly if we're going to try and reduce that by 10 percent
4:03:22we only need to reduce four hours five hours
4:03:26to get a 10 percent reduction in that budget
4:03:29And so again I would be looking at you know look forward
4:03:35to the proposal but I would be looking at it at a minimum
4:03:38reducing hours and that that goes towards my next
4:03:42to sort of comment or direction and I'm looking up at the clock
4:03:45and I realize I only have a minute.
4:03:47Unless we extend I would like to move to extend the meeting
4:03:52to eleven o'clock eleven ten more
4:03:54minutes at a bit of regularly make a motion
4:04:04I'll make it for you.
4:04:05That'll be great.
4:04:06I know I've talked to the city man the city attorney
4:04:10that it is possible but it it's it's unusual in our
4:04:15in our organization.
4:04:17We do better does that mean big emotion
4:04:20and go on and talk about.
4:04:22But it will send second by poor Okamoto.
4:04:25Roll call please.
4:04:27Mayor Lehman.
4:04:29Yes ma'am.
4:04:31Finale finale yes can't remember a thing.
4:04:37Yes.
4:04:38Can't remember if you Yes.
4:04:43Can we keep the yes.
4:04:46My guidance Larry my guidance to the city manager would be.
4:04:50And to city staff and all the bargaining unit
4:04:53would be the to figure out how we do personnel changes
4:04:57and in this case and personnel changes
4:04:58do not necessarily mean reducing staff but maybe reducing cost.
4:05:04Figuring out ways to save money by giving either furloughs
4:05:09where the cost of people is less to us
4:05:13staff voluntarily reducing their pay.
4:05:17Certainly we've talked about some of the other things
4:05:19that you talked about Karen tonight
4:05:20is reducing some of the other benefits
4:05:23that they're getting to reduce our costs
4:05:26so that we're all sharing this together.
4:05:28And it's not necessarily about reducing
4:05:30staff or reducing services but it's about reducing our cost.
4:05:35And so that would be something that I would certainly
4:05:38want to see us doing is that I think
4:05:43there might be personnel changes that we should be
4:05:46considering at senior levels.
4:05:49And I would love to make sure that that
4:05:53is something that we're giving guidance to you.
4:05:56Karen to consider I think you've talked about with
4:06:00regards to restructuring programs at recreation
4:06:04but I think that it needs to be looked at across the board
4:06:08in all departments to see what our opportunities are
4:06:11for restructuring and in that in that sense
4:06:15it would be reduction in workforce reduction bodies.
4:06:19But if that can be avoided by reducing
4:06:22the cost of all of our individuals
4:06:25that would be my first preference.
4:06:27So in in essence what I'm a hierarchy of what I would like
4:06:31to see have us reduce the personnel costs then
4:06:35potentially reduce personnel doesn't reduce services
4:06:38and then consider reducing services.
4:06:41And I cure you with regards to prioritizing county over city
4:06:47And so I would be looking at reducing hours at the library
4:06:50to at a minimum have the library budget reflect the overall cost
4:06:56we're asking the city to do which should be between about
4:07:0010 percent the two million dollar cost when we were
4:07:03looking at the curves back in March
4:07:05was getting us to a stable position
4:07:08for the foreseeable future.
4:07:10When calipers costs we're going to potentially change.
4:07:13I think now we have to be looking
4:07:15at something close to 4 million or a 10 percent reduction.
4:07:18That's not necessarily across the board
4:07:20but we just definitely need to be looking at something that
4:07:23is reducing us by that much so that we can begin
4:07:27to make a dent in our reserve.
4:07:30And and having those bars be positive despite covered 19
4:07:37if effects on our revenue and that
4:07:39is going to include needing to look revenue whether it's
4:07:43the master fee schedule increasing the feet to reduce
4:07:47the subsidy and increasing the fees to seniors talking
4:07:51to the county about the storm drain
4:07:55fee which they cap at fifty eight dollars a parcel.
4:07:59Looking at the first responder fee which LC Rito is choosing
4:08:07not to use but there are other cities within our county
4:08:10there are you doing this so that it's not just a a cost cut
4:08:15but as demonstrated through my line of questioning tonight
4:08:18revenues is much more difficult thing
4:08:21to be immediately responsive to this type of situation
4:08:25that we're in.
4:08:26So unfortunately we're going to be looking for I think
4:08:31the proper labor bargaining unit term
4:08:35is we are going to be looking for take backs
4:08:37from the contracts.
4:08:39I know that's an unpleasant thing
4:08:41and I know that some of the unions
4:08:43have already begun proposing things to us
4:08:46as you reflected in your presentation tonight.
4:08:50I know that's a rapid fire perspective of you know what
4:08:54I think we need to be looking at but the takeaway thing that I
4:08:58wanted to talk about is is that we preserve our jobs reduce
4:09:02our cost reduce personnel if necessary
4:09:06and then the third hierarchy for me
4:09:09would be then reducing services which I agree is on the table.
4:09:15You know starting with Fourth of July for example
4:09:17I think it's very clear that at that event gathers
4:09:22more than 350 people have fired a crystal ball I don't believe
4:09:25that we're going to be seeing any health order that allows
4:09:29gathering in more than a thousand people in one place
4:09:32until the end of the calendar year.
4:09:34So certainly something like the Fourth of July which does
4:09:39exceed that thousand people in one place one event
4:09:43is definitely something that we should be postponing
4:09:47and hopefully we can find a way to resurrect it a year
4:09:52or two years from now within social good guidance
4:09:55at that time I have left roughly five minutes left.
4:10:04I don't know Paul did you put your hand back
4:10:06up you're on mute No I'm good.
4:10:15I don't look I don't know.
4:10:17Go ahead Janet.
4:10:19My question I I just looked and it looks to me like we were
4:10:24just going to talk about it and then any action we would take
4:10:28would be next time right.
4:10:29Aaron as far as further cuts from the 2 million dollars that
4:10:36were presented to you tonight yes
4:10:38that conversation needs to continue
4:10:42And you know without action or no action
4:10:45tonight I mean we have heard we've heard
4:10:48and we've certainly heard a lot from you tonight
4:10:50and I don't know if Nancy and Steve would like
4:10:52to maybe give a comment to sort of wrap up anything
4:10:56that they've heard.
4:10:57But I think the one thing that I would like
4:11:00to be able to announce from this evening
4:11:02is that the city council agrees that I need to announce
4:11:07that July 4th will indeed be canceled
4:11:12And otherwise you know a lot of that other stuff we can
4:11:17that we've all been talking about
4:11:19will carry forward to the next meeting or a future meeting
4:11:23depending on each each and each issue that we need to tackle.
4:11:29So Nancy and Steve I don't know if you have any
4:11:33any additional thoughts just in terms of a wrap up with Nancy
4:11:40This is part of what had to happen today
4:11:42was for Council to weigh in on all of these discussions.
4:11:47You know there's a lot of analysis
4:11:49that lies ahead in options.
4:11:52You have a preview what those will look like
4:11:54but what the impacts are and I think to the point that
4:11:59was made of as uncomfortable as it
4:12:01is to put everything on the table
4:12:03understand what that looks like.
4:12:05That's the only way you can have the discussion around what
4:12:08are our most pressing priorities and how do we determine
4:12:11what we're going to change.
4:12:13I used the word change intentionally
4:12:14because it might be a reduction of might
4:12:16be a revenue has been a might is to change
4:12:19service delivery model.
4:12:21But I think that that the guidance to take a look at you
4:12:25know turn over those rocks and do the analysis is well taken.
4:12:30And then it can come back for council
4:12:33to talk about those priorities and so you
4:12:35know this is not anything anybody
4:12:36enjoys this is not fun stuff.
4:12:39A lot of difficult ideas and discussions and decisions
4:12:44have already begun.
4:12:46They will continue.
4:12:48Just stay the course.
4:12:49Yeah that's that's the best we can say and kind of
4:12:52keep an open mind as your thinking
4:12:55about these different options and try
4:12:58not to shut the doors before you analyzed
4:13:00impacts various things.
4:13:03Great.
4:13:03Thank you.
4:13:04I have closed my script so Holly I don't know if there's
4:13:09anything else I need to do.
4:13:10I know there's some other agenda items
4:13:12but we will forego tonight unless you tell me
4:13:15I need to do something else the only item led to a city council
4:13:20liaison assignment report and then
4:13:23adjournment of the regular city council meeting
4:13:29Do we need action on a fourth.
4:13:31Yeah I was going to say I think we need three of us
4:13:34to agree upon it.
4:13:37Get action.
4:13:38Sure Go ahead.
4:13:41Paul you spoke up first.
4:13:43No I was just I. That's all I I think we should leave
4:13:47having at least gone that far.
4:13:49Made a decision on that tonight so
4:13:51deserve a motion to cancel the Fourth of July
4:13:58I'll make the motion cancel the dialogue.
4:14:01All right.
4:14:03It's not to Reno on a motion that I will motions here.
4:14:09This is for one year or two years
4:14:11one year Mr. Kato did you second that.
4:14:16Oh I'll make that motion for you here.
4:14:18Okay fine.
4:14:19Kato is the Motion maker I'll second that second the delay.
4:14:25Roll call please me.
4:14:28I mean yes ma'am put him in.
4:14:32Yes Camp remember Ableton yes.
4:14:38Council member party Okamoto a re-elected.
4:14:42Yes council member.
4:14:46Yes machinery.
4:14:49Right.
4:14:50And with that we will adjourn this meeting
4:14:53to the next regularly scheduled meeting which will be on April
4:15:00doing quick math in my head.
4:15:0121st thank you everyone.
4:15:05Thank you.
4:15:06Thank you all Thank you.
The Mayor reported what he had learned from the county librarian.
What he had asked: about “not doing an all or nothing, but doing some type of scaled solution.”
The answer: “they're not in a position to give us a suggestion about a scaled solution — for example closing Sundays.”
And the deadline: “they did tell us that we need to tell them by May 1st. So we don't have a lot of time to evaluate the choices, because they're not giving us choices.”
The Mayor said guidance on the library had to be given that night or at the next meeting, since the county needed 60 days' notice before the end of the fiscal year. The City Manager put the current cost at $129,000, money that would otherwise go to city services.
The Mayor recalled a report that the city is “only one of two cities in the entire county of 19 that are open on Sundays” — though “I can't remember which was libraries or cities.”
Fadelli, recalling salary freezes and job losses in his own career, said the focus now had to be personnel costs.
Abelson, calling this the biggest crisis since Proposition 13, framed what a city is for: “my first answer always is public safety. That's why we exist… and then after that there are other things that have more to do with quality of life.”
The Mayor's guidance set an order: reduce personnel costs first, through furloughs, voluntary pay cuts and benefit reductions; then personnel; then services. He put the needed reduction near $4 million, or 10 percent, wanted the library budget cut by at least about 10 percent, and named revenue steps: the master fee schedule, the storm drain fee the county caps at $58 a parcel, and a first responder fee.
And the Fourth of July, which draws more than a thousand people — he did not believe “we're going to be seeing any health order that allows gathering… more than a thousand people in one place until the end of the calendar year.”
His conclusion: “something like the Fourth of July… is definitely something that we should be postponing.” On a motion by Quinto, the Council voted unanimously to cancel it for the year, and adjourned to 21 April.
The county would not offer a scaled library option — “they're not giving us choices” — and required an answer by 1 May. The Mayor recalled a report that El Cerrito was one of only two of the county's 19 cities open on Sundays. The Council voted that night to cancel the Fourth of July. The library hours are decided later (25 Apr 2020).