Regular City Council Meeting March 16, 2021

Remote, via teleconference · 4 hours 9 minutes · 4671 caption units

Council: Paul Fadelli, Mayor · Gabe Quinto, Mayor Pro Tem · Janet Abelson · Lisa Motoyama · Tessa Rudnick

Staff: Karen Pinkos, City Manager · Mark Rasiah, Finance Director · Will Provost, Operations and Environmental Services Division Manager

Presenting: Neela Sadhasivam, Chair, Environmental Quality Committee

The state auditor's report was published this day. It is not on the agenda, but the City Manager reports it, every councilmember responds, and residents quote it back. The budget study session that follows sets out two reduction scenarios, $1 million or $2 million.

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Contents

29 sections
  1. 01ConvenedN
  2. 02A variant, and a vigilS
  3. 03“Released the report”S
  4. 04“No quick fix”S
  5. 05“Good news and bad news must be shared”S
  6. 06“Opted for big government”S
  7. 07“I don't want rose colored glasses”S
  8. 08For the long haulS
  9. 09Education and Sharing DayN
  10. 10“Stop the blame shifting”S
  11. 11“Self-inflicted”S
  12. 12Seven things not on the tableS
  13. 13Five hundred and seventy thousand of dieselS
  14. 14“They are scared”S
  15. 15The housing progress reportX
  16. 16Why not biodieselS
  17. 17Electric cars, and the composting mandateS
  18. 18The five year forecastS
  19. 19Nineteen thousand citiesS
  20. 20No surplus next yearS
  21. 21One million, or twoS
  22. 22“Every single thing on that table”S
  23. 23What direction was soughtS
  24. 24A discount rate not yet knownS
  25. 25An earmark that isn't thereS
  26. 26The retiree health subsidyS
  27. 27“We cannot gaslight”S
  28. 28“Not ones designed to”S
  29. 29A big giant public comment sessionS

01 Convened captions 1–43

0:08:10Being a regular city council meeting of the Ailsa Reno city

0:08:14council tonight at 7:00 p.M..

0:08:16Can I have a roll call please if leave here me

0:08:22if I can come to present Councilman Abelson council

0:08:31member Allison they needed you.

0:08:35We should be able to hear you now.

0:08:39Okay.

0:08:40I haven't cancel my babies and i have I needed you.

0:08:43We should be able to hear you.

0:08:45Me.

0:08:45Yes thank you so much.

0:08:47Council member Morty A council member Rep.

0:08:50Nick We have a quorum.

0:08:53Thank you before we begin I want a report out

0:08:57from our special city council at 6:00 p.m.

0:08:59tonight any of the public comments that were received

0:09:03regarding the special meeting will have been given

0:09:05to the city council members.

0:09:07Our reportable actions concerning labor negotiations

0:09:12and the redevelopment dissolution case

0:09:16can we please have information about our public comments

0:09:19for this regular session city clerk

0:09:22thank you Mayor for city council members

0:09:24and staff who are participating panelists.

0:09:26Please remember to keep your microphone muted whenever you

0:09:29are not speaking to ensure compliance with the Brown Act

0:09:32into to address security concerns.

0:09:34Attendee images and videos will remain disabled as well as

0:09:38the chat feature for all participants

0:09:40The members of the public who wish to provide oral testimony

0:09:43The mayor will announce the time for public comment

0:09:46on each applicable item if you wish to speak

0:09:49please select the hand icon to raise your hand.

0:09:52If you cannot locate the icon please refer to the docu linked

0:09:55on page one of the agenda for the race hand feature attendees

0:09:59joining by phone can dial star 9 to raise their hand when it is

0:10:04your turn to provide comments your name will be announced

0:10:07and you will be prompted to unmask yourself attendees

0:10:10joining by phone will be prompted to dial star 6 to meet

0:10:14themselves Thank you Mayor we're ready

0:10:16to move on to the next item.

0:10:18Thank you for staff and council communications

0:10:22can we have a report from our staff

The meeting opened remotely with all five members present.

The Mayor gave the report-out from the 6 p.m. special meeting, on labor negotiations and the redevelopment dissolution case.

The Clerk gave the teleconference instructions: attendee video and chat disabled, hands raised by icon or by dialling star nine.

The evening runs four hours, to 11 p.m.

Its dominant subject is not on the agenda.

Note

The state auditor's report on El Cerrito was published this day. It is not an agenda item; the City Manager reports it, every councilmember responds to it, and residents quote it back in public comment.

02 A variant, and a vigil captions 44–101

0:10:23please Yes thank you Your Honor I'm Karen Pinkus city manager

0:10:30and I have several announcements this evening

0:10:34first concerning our local emergency

0:10:36related to the pandemic.

0:10:38As you all know Contra Costa has moved

0:10:40into the red tier of the California state guidelines

0:10:43which is good news.

0:10:45It means that additional businesses may open with higher

0:10:48capacity some small private gatherings are allowed

0:10:51in restaurants gyms dance studios

0:10:54and museums may reopen indoors subject to capacity

0:10:57restrictions to the operation at this time

0:11:00will remain largely the same.

0:11:03And we are grateful that more of our staff

0:11:05have become eligible for vaccines which is also

0:11:08very good news for our team.

0:11:10However today Contra Costa also announced

0:11:14that the first two known cases of the highly

0:11:16infectious UK variant were detected

0:11:20in Contra Costa County.

0:11:22It is apparently called the B 1 1 17 variant

0:11:26and I don't know if I'm saying that terminology correctly

0:11:29but it has been called the UK variant

0:11:31because it's believed to be originated

0:11:33in the United Kingdom.

0:11:35It is also more contagious than the other variants

0:11:37and possibly more deadly.

0:11:39There have also been news reports in Europe

0:11:41that Europe may be seeing the beginnings of another surge

0:11:44so this is just yet another reminder of the pending make

0:11:48is not over.

0:11:49And we still need to remain vigilant by wearing masks

0:11:52washing our hands and practising distancing you're eligible

0:11:57we encourage you to get vaccinated

0:11:59we realize the system has been challenging

0:12:01but again you can find information.

0:12:03I'll repeat these Web sites and phone numbers You can

0:12:07find information at my turn.

0:12:09Dot see a dot gov or corona virus dot C.C. health dot org

0:12:17or call 1 8 3 3 8 2 9 2 6 2 6.

0:12:22I'll repeat my term dot C. dot gov.

0:12:26Karen virus dot S.C. health dot org

0:12:30or 1 8 3 3 8 2 9 2 6 2 cents.

0:12:36I also wanted to let you all know that Contra Costa County

0:12:39is planning to hold a virtue while memorial vigil

0:12:43on the evening of Monday March 22nd to honor those Contra

0:12:48Costa residents that we've lost to cover 19 march 22nd is

0:12:52the year anniversary of the first death from Cove it

0:12:57reported in Contra Costa County as of today we have lost seven

0:13:01hundred twenty four contract residents including eleven

0:13:05of our neighbors and also Rito Cogan 19 the program

0:13:09for the vigil is still being worked out again it's going

0:13:12to be virtual but once we have confirmation on exactly what

0:13:16the program will be we will be happy

0:13:18to provide details through our outreach channels on

0:13:21social media on our calendar and on the Web site and the county

0:13:25will be doing outreach the same way as well.

0:13:28So please stay tuned for more information on that program.

The City Manager opened with two pieces of pandemic news pointing in opposite directions.

The good: the county had “moved into the red tier,” meaning “additional businesses may open with higher capacity” and that restaurants, gyms, dance studios and museums “may reopen indoors subject to capacity restrictions.”

Plus “more of our staff have become eligible for vaccines.”

The bad, announced the same day: “the first two known cases of the highly infectious UK variant were detected in Contra Costa County.”

Its character: “more contagious than the other variants and possibly more deadly,” with reports that “Europe may be seeing the beginnings of another surge.”

Her conclusion: “yet another reminder that the pandemic is not over.”

Then the county's memorial vigil on 22 March — “the year anniversary of the first death from covid reported in Contra Costa County.”

The toll: “we have lost seven hundred twenty four Contra Costa residents, including eleven of our neighbors in El Cerrito.”

Significant

Eleven El Cerrito residents had died of covid by the first anniversary of the county's first death. The UK variant arrives in the county the same week the county moves to the red tier, and the Delta surge follows in July.

03 “Released the report” captions 102–140

0:13:33And finally I would like to announce

0:13:34that the california state auditor has released

0:13:37the report on the city Serino.

0:13:39As of today this is not on the agenda but I do

0:13:43want to give a brief report on sort of what has happened

0:13:47and transpired at this point.

0:13:49The report can be found on their Web site

0:13:52at auditor C.A. a dot gov.

0:13:55Again auditor dot see a dot gov.

0:13:59And our response is also included on their web site

0:14:01as well as on our Web site which is l dash Rio dot org.

0:14:06Again l dash Serino dot for as the council knows in February

0:14:1120 20 the Joint Legislative Audit Committee approved

0:14:14the state auditor to conduct an audit of the city under

0:14:17the local high risk program a team from the State

0:14:19Auditor's Office began working with our staff all radio staff

0:14:23to conduct the audit beginning in October twenty twenty

0:14:26the team provided the city with a draft report during the first

0:14:29week of March 20 21 and we were given five business days

0:14:33to respond to the draft report we conferred city staff

0:14:37conferred with the city council and closed session and we

0:14:40provided to the response to the state

0:14:42auditor within that designated timeframe as I stated in

0:14:46the city's response the city agrees with most

0:14:48of the recommendations provided the five risk areas identified

0:14:52by the state auditor.

0:14:53In fact the recommendations complement the actions

0:14:56that the city is undertaking right now as we had already

0:14:59identified many of the same issues within the report

0:15:01and are taking steps toward implementing changes

0:15:04to address those issues.

0:15:05However we do recognize that there are still

0:15:08areas to be improved and the city administration

0:15:10is committed to continuous improvement

0:15:12in all of our operating funds.

0:15:14The city has and will continue to make the needed improvements

0:15:17necessary to improve our operational effectiveness

0:15:21and to tackle the city's financial issues

0:15:23as the city council knows.

The City Manager then reported the thing the evening turns on, noting it was not agendized.

Her announcement: “the California State Auditor has released the report on the city [of El Cerrito] as of today. This is not on the agenda, but I do want to give a brief report.”

Where to find it: the auditor's own site, with “our response… also included on their web site as well as on our web site.”

The chronology: approved by the Joint Legislative Audit Committee in February 2020, fieldwork “beginning in October twenty twenty,” a draft “during the first week of March 2021” — and then “we were given five business days to respond.”

Staff “conferred with the city council in closed session” and responded within the window.

Her characterization of the response: “the city agrees with most of the recommendations provided [on] the five risk areas.”

And her framing of their relationship to work already under way: “the recommendations complement the actions that the city is undertaking right now, as we had already identified many of the same issues.”

With the concession: “we do recognize that there are still areas to be improved.”

Significant

The audit is reported under staff communications, on the day of publication, as a non-agenda item. The city had five business days to respond to the draft; the City Manager describes that window again at the April town hall.

04 “No quick fix” captions 141–175

0:15:25In my two years the city manager I

0:15:27have had to focus on actions to restore

0:15:29the city to fiscal health.

0:15:30We are working to change the city's culture

0:15:33to become more fiscally disciplined as we're dealing

0:15:36with the ramifications of decisions that

0:15:38have been made in the past.

0:15:40The city council the city staff are now

0:15:42having to make decisions that reflect

0:15:43the need for financial responsibility

0:15:45And we will need to continue to do so.

0:15:48It took several years for the city

0:15:49to get to this point We know there is no quick fix

0:15:52and it will take time and effort on all of our parts

0:15:54to keep moving forward but I know

0:15:57the city council and the city staff

0:15:59have demonstrated we have a desire and an ability

0:16:01to put the city back on track.

0:16:03It is also important to note that the city

0:16:05has faced significant challenge because

0:16:07of the cove 19 pandemic.

0:16:09Obviously the city clearly had financial challenges

0:16:12prior the pandemic but there's also

0:16:14no doubt the city's been forced to respond

0:16:16to the impacts created by the pandemic

0:16:17both operational and financial and take specific steps

0:16:21to address the fiscal issues.

0:16:22As a result of the pandemic as well as what

0:16:25we were dealing with prior to the pandemic those fires

0:16:28next steps with respect to the report

0:16:30the city must provide a corrective action

0:16:32plan within 60 days to address the risk areas that were

0:16:35identified and we will provide updates on that plan

0:16:38to the state auditor every six months.

0:16:40I also want to note that in the discussions with the state

She then spoke about her own tenure and about the city's culture.

Her account of the assignment: “in my two years [as] city manager I have had to focus on actions to restore the city to fiscal health.”

What she says is being attempted: “we are working to change the city's culture to become more fiscally disciplined.”

And why that is necessary: “we're dealing with the ramifications of decisions that have been made in the past.”

What follows from it: “the city council [and] the city staff are now having to make decisions that reflect the need for financial responsibility.”

Her statement about the timeline: “it took several years for the city to get to this point. We know there is no quick fix, and it will take time and effort on all of our parts.”

On the pandemic, she separated the two causes carefully: “the city clearly had financial challenges prior [to] the pandemic, but there's also no doubt the city's been forced to respond to the impacts.”

Next: a corrective action plan due within 60 days to address the risk areas, with updates to the state auditor every six months.

Significant

The City Manager distinguishes the city's pre-existing financial problems from pandemic impacts rather than blaming the pandemic — “the city clearly had financial challenges prior.” She had been City Manager for two years and speaks of “decisions that have been made in the past”; later she notes she “was the assistant city manager” under the former administration.

05 “Good news and bad news must be shared” captions 176–252

0:16:43auditor team regarding the corrective action plan

0:16:45they clarified that the city does not have to specifically

0:16:48implement each recommendation as stated

0:16:51as addressing the general risk area to their satisfaction.

0:16:54So in that we will be working with the state

0:16:57her team on addressing any concerns

0:16:59that they have with respect to those risk areas

0:17:02and fulfilling recommendations.

0:17:05But I also wanted to let the council public know

0:17:07that the financial advisory board is slated to discuss

0:17:10the state auditor report at their next meeting

0:17:12which I believe is April 13th.

0:17:15And I will be present at that meeting to answer the board's

0:17:18questions and we will continue to update

0:17:20the Council and the public on our progress

0:17:22in future meetings.

0:17:23So In summary the city team takes the state auditor's

0:17:27report seriously We understand we must be vigilant in ensuring

0:17:30we're able to sustainably provide services and maintain

0:17:33the focus of the city organization toward fiscal

0:17:36health And with that Your Honor.

0:17:38That concludes my report.

0:17:39Thank you thank you This is council time for statements

0:17:45and I've when I have a mayor's privilege if I can to begin

0:17:48by starting and responding my personal comments on the audit

0:17:54important important thing in our city

0:17:56there is must just say about the state audit needs to finances.

0:18:00I was actually looking forward to the state audit and

0:18:03how we might learn from it.

0:18:05And while not perfect i think the audit

0:18:08makes important insights about how we handle our city financed

0:18:12in the past and what we should be doing going forward

0:18:17As I said it's not perfect.

0:18:18I don't think it gives much detail about

0:18:20the bad practices that we've dealt with over the last decade

0:18:2512 years.

0:18:26I don't think it gives enough information about the impact

0:18:29of covered 19 in our city and other cities in the East Bay

0:18:33and I don't think it gives enough credit as our city

0:18:35manager said to what this city council on the last city

0:18:40council have done to respond to these is issues of finances

0:18:44and also But I'm glad the city has wired wisely agreed

0:18:48to either agree with or or basically agree with most

0:18:54of the recommendations that the audit has suggested that we

0:18:57undertake some of these include making structural changes

0:19:01to the city that will save money to recover more costs from

0:19:06our recreation senior and our emergency services to conduct

0:19:11a compensation study among

0:19:14comparable cities to see costs reductions

0:19:18in our fire and police departments

0:19:20and require city departments to establish budget

0:19:23safeguards against increasing costs and expenses

0:19:28without authorization.

0:19:31We need to know how and when we can respond

0:19:33to these recommendations.

0:19:34And if the city manager has the adequate staff

0:19:38and the resources to get the job done

0:19:40it's not gonna be an easy job.

0:19:42There's a lot of things that we need to do with limited staff

0:19:47I'm probably most in agreement however with a theme

0:19:50that the audit had about the past decade

0:19:53that city staff didn't really communicate as best it could.

0:19:57With the Council on financial and budget issues

0:20:02and we are ultimately responsible

0:20:04and that's why we've all taken this up

0:20:06to resolve these issues.

0:20:07Now i think we need to be better going forward

0:20:11and good news and bad news must be shared

0:20:14with city council members.

0:20:15So I look forward to the coming weeks working with staff

0:20:19getting more public input and working

0:20:21to make the tough decisions in this next

0:20:24fiscal year So thank you for the time.

0:20:27Is there any other council member

0:20:28that would like to make any comments

0:20:30before we proceed with our council I would

0:20:33be yes Mayor Pro Tem kindle.

The City Manager finished her report: the auditor's team had clarified that the city need not implement each recommendation exactly as stated, so long as it addresses each risk area to the auditor's satisfaction; the Financial Advisory Board would discuss the report at its next meeting, which she believed was 13 April; and “the city team takes the state auditor's report seriously.”

The Mayor responded first, and the part of the audit he singled out concerns what the Council was told.

He said he had been looking forward to the audit, but called it “not perfect”: it did not give “much detail about the bad practices that we've dealt with over the last decade,” or enough on the impact of covid in El Cerrito and other East Bay cities, or “enough credit” to what this Council and the last had done. He listed recommendations the city had agreed with: structural changes that save money, recovering more costs from recreation, senior and emergency services, a compensation study among comparable cities, cost reductions in fire and police, and departmental safeguards against spending without authorization.

His question about capacity: whether “the city manager has the adequate staff and the resources to get the job done” — noting “it's not gonna be an easy job. There's a lot of things that we need to do with limited staff.”

Then the finding he endorsed most strongly: “I'm probably most in agreement… with a theme that the audit had about the past decade, that city staff didn't really communicate as best it could with the Council on financial and budget issues.”

And the Council's own position: “we are ultimately responsible, and that's why we've all taken this up to resolve these issues.”

His rule going forward: “good news and bad news must be shared with city council members.”

What comes next: “the coming weeks working with staff, getting more public input, and working to make the tough decisions in this next fiscal year.”

Significant

The audit's finding that staff did not adequately communicate financial information to the Council for a decade is the one the Mayor endorses most directly, while calling the audit “not perfect” on past practices, on covid and on credit for recent actions.

06 “Opted for big government” captions 253–281

0:20:37Thank you Mayor Del.

0:20:39Now the council this California State Auditor

0:20:42posted finding some else to read encouraged else to read

0:20:46a resident to support Austell measures that I have been

0:20:50asking for since 2018 We are one of the highest taxed

0:20:54cities in the state california at ten point to five percent.

0:20:59If we have no reserves for an emergency like what we're going

0:21:03through right now a pandemic and a recession

0:21:07we're all experience at now many years of mismanagement

0:21:12starting at the last recession constant overspending

0:21:17not preparing for funding up calipers unfunded liabilities

0:21:21and spend all of our reserves is not good.

0:21:25Government the majority of cities in Contra Costa

0:21:28as I said time and time again need their governments

0:21:31smaller at the last recession starting at the last recession

0:21:35and started to save money on four reserves rainy day

0:21:39fund funding for calipers and unfunded liability.

0:21:43Elsa read out did not do that and opted for big government.

0:21:47Good government is living within our means

0:21:50and this city will do the work that

0:21:52needs to be done We have no choice but to follow

0:21:56the findings and change the course of how government

0:21:59is run in else to read out.

0:22:01I look forward to working with city manager Karen Pinkus Mayor

0:22:05fidelity and our council members to make

0:22:10sure we change the course of what's going adults.

0:22:13Frieda thank you so much.

0:22:16Thank you for listening.

0:22:18I also wanted to make some notes of announcements

Mayor Pro Tem Quinto spoke next.

His reading of the report: the auditor “encouraged El Cerrito residents to support austerity measures that I have been asking for since 2018.”

The tax burden he cited: “we are one of the highest taxed cities in the state [of] California, at ten point two five percent.”

Against which: “we have no reserves for an emergency like what we're going through right now — a pandemic and a recession.”

His account of the cause: “many years of mismanagement starting at the last recession — constant overspending, not preparing for funding” CalPERS “unfunded liabilities, and spend[ing] all of our reserves. [That] is not good government.”

The comparison: most Contra Costa cities “made their governments smaller at the last recession… and started to save money for reserves, rainy day fund[s], funding for CalPERS.”

His verdict: “El Cerrito did not do that, and opted for big government.”

His definition: “good government is living within our means.”

And the conclusion: “we have no choice but to follow the findings and change the course of how government is run.”

Significant

“El Cerrito did not do that, and opted for big government” — the Mayor Pro Tem's account of why the city entered the pandemic with no reserves while its neighbors had rebuilt theirs after 2008. He says he has been asking for austerity since 2018, the year he was mayor and the year Measure V passed.

07 “I don't want rose colored glasses” captions 282–348

0:22:23on some of the Ouija boards that I attended.

0:22:26Should I do that now mayor or yes please wait oK.

0:22:31I attended I'm part of a special group of elected officials

0:22:36with Cal city's and the group ask me to be part in advancing

0:22:43racial equality group and that is a group of two members

0:22:48from each of the different departments

0:22:51that the League of California exists from Police Chief fire

0:22:55chiefs city managers mayors and council members as the at

0:23:00large member of Cal cities representing the 400

0:23:04seventy seven cities we meet.

0:23:07We plan to make sure that we create more equity and more

0:23:14racial equity more inclusion to represent

0:23:19what California looks like now.

0:23:22I also wanted to let folks know that I attended I'm on another

0:23:27new committee that the president of the League of Cities

0:23:30and executive director asked me to part of and that is how

0:23:35cities governance board and this small group of 11 part

0:23:41of the part of that group we will be looking

0:23:44into the california cities itself to make sure we are

0:23:51creating good government and good governance within

0:23:55the League of Cities which is our lobbyist group and all

0:24:00of the 407 7 cities in Calif you belong to so I want to let

0:24:06folks know about again taking their thank you any other

0:24:11council member comments council member Rodney

0:24:17thank you mayor and I'll keep

0:24:19it really brief.

0:24:20I want to assure the public that on council we

0:24:25will be very involved in the budget process going forward

0:24:29this I I really appreciate my colleagues with a very

0:24:34unify message and yes this is a moment of unity

0:24:37because we have to make it through but also I want to be

0:24:40a little bit more of a cold splash water which is this is

0:24:43our reality and I don't want to sugar coat

0:24:45this I don't want rose colored glasses This is the budget

0:24:48reality that the city's in and this is

0:24:50what we have to move through.

0:24:52Thank you council member Marta i did

0:25:08want to report out that I attended the executive board

0:25:12for the East Bay economic Development Alliance

0:25:15as my first time.

0:25:16Participating in that and it was really great to to hear more

0:25:21about the economic situation that you say in the work

0:25:24that the East Bay Economic Development Alliance is doing

0:25:27to provide policy information and data

0:25:31so if anyone's interested in kind of the impact of coping

0:25:34for example they can go to the East Bay

0:25:37economic development alliance Web site

0:25:39for those kinds informations.

0:25:41I also attended the Human Relations commission

0:25:44and the economic development committee as liaison

0:25:46and again I want to really appreciate all the volunteer

0:25:50time that our residents put into making our city more equitable

0:25:55more prosperous.

0:25:57And in a really hopefully recommend

0:25:59that anybody that's really interested about what's

0:26:02going on in the city not just to come to council but the 10

0:26:05some of these boards and commissions

0:26:07to seek kind of granular level what's going on

0:26:10and I'd like to echo council member Ruddick to say that yes

0:26:14we are in really bad shape financially

0:26:18and that's why we're here to work it.

0:26:21I think that there's just a lot of work to be done

0:26:23and you know i hope that as many people as possible

0:26:28attends the community outreach meeting in April for the budget

0:26:32discussion because what partly what

0:26:39the priorities and the financial condition that we're in right.

0:26:43Thank you thank you.

Two newer councilmembers responded.

Rudnick's assurance: “on council we will be very involved in the budget process going forward.”

Her acknowledgement of the tone: “I really appreciate my colleagues with a very unified message, and yes, this is a moment of unity because we have to make it through.”

Then the correction: “but also I want to be a little bit more of a cold splash [of] water, which is: this is our reality, and I don't want to sugar coat this. I don't want rose colored glasses.”

Her framing: “this is the budget reality that the city's in, and this is what we have to move through.”

Motoyama reported on regional bodies, then agreed: “yes, we are in really bad shape financially, and that's why we're here to work it.”

Her recommendation to residents wanting detail: attend “some of these boards and commissions to see [at a] granular level what's going on” rather than only Council.

And her hope that “as many people as possible attend the community outreach meeting in April for the budget discussion.”

Quinto also reported joining a Cal Cities racial equity group and a governance board covering “the 477 cities” in the state.

Significant

“I don't want rose colored glasses” — a councilmember who welcomes the “unified message” but wants “a little bit more of a cold splash [of] water” on the night the audit published. The April community meeting Motoyama points to is the 10 April town hall.

08 For the long haul captions 349–429

0:26:46Council member council member wilson you're on you're

0:26:50on new Janet oK.

0:26:57There we go.

0:26:58We can oK.

0:26:58Thank you.

0:27:00I would like to agree with my fellow council members

0:27:03in saying that we are at a serious point in our city

0:27:07with finances and i think we're going

0:27:10to be all working together.

0:27:13I certainly am going to be part of that to try to resolve all

0:27:18of the question of problems with our finances

0:27:24as quickly as possible but also doing the things that won't be

0:27:29things that we can accomplish quite so

0:27:31quickly that will take time and so we're

0:27:34really for the long haul.

0:27:36I think and I know I certainly deal that way about so i just

0:27:43want to I'm not going to repeat anything anyone said

0:27:46but just to say that I'm in agreement with what's been said

0:27:51and the on what seems like a frivolous note

0:27:59but it isn't really I met with a group of people

0:28:04who were interested in best brunches

0:28:08and putting up best benches.

0:28:10So that people who wanted to go around town

0:28:17but needed a place to sit.

0:28:21So not necessarily bus stops.

0:28:23But somewhere could have that could have that.

0:28:26So we've talked a lot about that we talked about some work I've

0:28:31done at a national level on the topic

0:28:35and i'm not sure if that will lead to anything

0:28:40but hopefully it will but anyway, they I

0:28:44think we're going to take it to the comments that were

0:28:48made to the Committee on aging.

0:28:51So I just wanted to mention that.

0:28:55And our also at the recent Contra Costa cup excuse

0:29:01me i met with a group of people from contract.

0:29:05The contract costa County climate leaders group and I

0:29:11was the introductory speaker there so that was

0:29:18a really interesting program.

0:29:20I think and What else did I think.

0:29:27Those are the main things I think I'll mention today.

0:29:31So gone on tour the regular part of our meeting.

0:29:34Thank you.

0:29:35Thank you move on to the oral communications from the public

0:29:40now.

0:29:41And at this time, members of the public

0:29:44who wish to provide public comments regarding matters

0:29:46not on the agenda consent items and presentation items should

0:29:50use the Raise the hand feature to request just

0:29:53speak city clerk.

0:29:55Can we proceed please ma'am.

0:30:00I am going to call a couple of speakers

0:30:02before we open up to general public comment

0:30:04as we have a couple of proclamations on our Consent

0:30:07Calendar tonight which in normal times outside of Kirkwood

0:30:11we would be inviting these individuals up to the dais

0:30:15to speak on behalf of acceptance of those proclamations

0:30:20so the first speaker.

0:30:21I'm going to invite to speak is Rabbi Yankee Belle who would be

0:30:26speaking regarding the proclamation recognize

0:30:29education in Shirley Bay rabbi getting you

0:30:33permission to mute you should be able to unmute

0:30:36yourself and provide comments at this time are you

0:30:44there looks like we may have lost

0:30:52and looks like he may have dropped off the car at up there

0:30:56you are great.

0:30:57We can't hear you.

0:30:58Go ahead and go ahead and proceed.

0:31:00Thank you so much.

0:31:02I am a if I understand correctly,

0:31:05the proclamation was not yet mentioned this evening

0:31:09This is the time when we take public comment on any of items

0:31:13that are just i will just be forcibly saying this is

0:31:16in connection with the proclamation

0:31:18that Will and the spoken about tonight

0:31:23and honoring the publisher.

0:31:24I began, I mean, I mental citizen and who's and who's

0:31:31I'll speak about a media moment and about education

0:31:34and Sharing Day which will be and March 24th.

0:31:38And so rita.

0:31:40So I just wanted to say as follows

0:31:44and the i'm Bill Maher and city manager city council

Abelson closed the Council's responses, and her contribution distinguishes two kinds of problem.

Her agreement: “we are at a serious point in our city with finances and I think we're going to be all working together.”

Then the distinction: she would work to resolve the financial problems “as quickly as possible, but also doing the things that won't be things that we can accomplish quite so quickly.”

Her conclusion: “we're really [in it] for the long haul.”

She then reported on something she acknowledged might seem out of place: meeting people “interested in… putting up benches” so that “people who wanted to go around town but needed a place to sit” could — “not necessarily bus stops.”

Her own framing: “on what seems like a frivolous note, but it isn't really.”

She would take it to the Committee on Aging.

Public comment then opened, with a note about how the pandemic had changed even the ceremonial part of a meeting.

The Clerk's explanation: she would call a few speakers first because of “a couple of proclamations on our consent calendar tonight, which in normal times… we would be inviting these individuals up to the dais to speak on behalf of” their organizations.

Significant

Benches for people who need to sit while walking through town — raised on the night of the audit, and described by the councilmember as “a frivolous note, but it isn't really.” She would take it to the Committee on Aging.

09 Education and Sharing Day captions 430–507

0:31:50members i thank you for this.

0:31:53I thank you for this opportunity.

0:31:56And then on behalf of our city and for you

0:31:59and for taking the attention to proclaim education Sharing

0:32:04Day and also Vito i mean,

0:32:06I have a mental illness blessed memory known as the uAB became

0:32:10the leader of the battle banished movement in 1950

0:32:14while he concentrated his efforts on rebuilding

0:32:16and energizing the global jewish community after the devastation

0:32:19of the Holocaust he paid great attention to the needs of all

0:32:23of humanity that resolution states that the rabbis and both

0:32:29the rabbis birthday has been proclaimed for over 40 years

0:32:32now and national and in many and in many other many states

0:32:37and many cities as a day to raise awareness

0:32:41of the core ideas of education and recognition

0:32:43of the rabbi's outstanding lasting contributions

0:32:46towards improvements in World educationally throughout.

0:32:49In acts of charity you ever taught that everyday vigil

0:32:53in fact, every individual action has an impact

0:32:56on the entire universe emphasized

0:32:59the importance of education and good character.

0:33:01And is still the hope of a brighter future

0:33:03and the lives of countless people in America,

0:33:06across the globe.

0:33:07We have been told that education should not be limited

0:33:10to the acquisition of knowledge and preparation for a career

0:33:13rather the main attention should be on the building of character

0:33:16with emphasis on moral and ethical values

0:33:20education sharing gazed about creating conversation

0:33:23It's about the conversations we have with our children

0:33:25around the dinner table conversations we have

0:33:28with our students in the classrooms

0:33:30and the conversations we have day in

0:33:32and day out that can have an impact on the hearts

0:33:35and minds of our young ones.

0:33:37We are still in the throes of a pandemic that has disrupted

0:33:40our way of life in so many ways from nuns from uncertainty

0:33:45and fear that all there shining rays of hope

0:33:48and in conversations with so many educators

0:33:50and parents and students community is clear

0:33:53that this unprecedented disruption

0:33:55of traditional educational models

0:33:57has provided the perfect setting for us all to re-evaluate

0:34:01education really about the other told

0:34:05that the truth that the truth.

0:34:06Every person is an educator and we

0:34:08must be mindful of our ability to impact the lives others

0:34:12people or influenced by the bad things they do

0:34:15rather than by what they are taught.

0:34:17We have encouraged every child and in fact, every person

0:34:20that we should have a dedicated charity

0:34:23box in our homes or offices to give money to and give

0:34:27money to charity daily.

0:34:29I don't I don't believe that you are able to see me

0:34:31on the screen but I am to be giving I'm gonna be putting

0:34:35a point in the charity box here as we speak in front

0:34:38of the meeting ID is that when boxes fall, we count the cash

0:34:44and write a check to a worthy cause

0:34:46and give the total amount to someone in need.

0:34:47It's not about the total or not.

0:34:49Don it is more about the consistency of giving that has

0:34:53a has a tremendous impact and transforms into givers ensuring

0:34:58our children, our children nurture the inherent goodness

0:35:01they have by causing kindness to become routine in their lives

0:35:05is a profound way to expel hatred and develop

0:35:08a society known for its unity.

0:35:10Cooperation and emphasis for each other empathy

0:35:14for each other.

0:35:16May God bless you all and our wonderful city

0:35:19that we succeed in accomplishing just

0:35:20that through repair our corner of the world now

0:35:23is libido and all around.

0:35:25When Arif to world peace and tranquility for all.

0:35:30Thank you for this for the thank you Rabbi nation.

0:35:35Thank you rabbi.

0:35:36And then the next speaker.

0:35:38I'm gonna invite to provide comments

0:35:40is james line as a weapons lions as a representative

A speaker accepted a proclamation on the consent calendar and explained what it marks.

The subject: a rabbi “of blessed memory” who “became the leader of the” Lubavitch “movement in 1950.”

What he undertook: “rebuilding and energizing the global Jewish community after the devastation of the Holocaust.”

And beyond that community: “he paid great attention to the needs of all of humanity.”

The proclamation's standing: his birthday “has been proclaimed for over 40 years now… [in] many states and many cities as a day to raise awareness of the core ideas of education.”

Its focus: “recognition of the rabbi's outstanding lasting contributions toward improvements in world education.”

The American Red Cross then accepted its own March proclamation.

Note

Education and Sharing Day has been proclaimed by cities and states for over 40 years, marking the birthday of the Lubavitcher Rebbe. The Red Cross's March proclamation was accepted the same evening.

10 “Stop the blame shifting” captions 508–628

0:35:44of the American Red Cross which is our proclamation on consent

0:35:48item B C K change yOU SHOULD HAVE

0:35:54PERMISSION TO END IT YOURSELF how can everyone hear me.

0:35:58Yes, we can go ahead, please proceed.

0:36:01Thank you very kindly.

0:36:03I'd like to begin with thanking the real city council

0:36:07and staff for supporting the Red Cross

0:36:10March's Red Cross's month.

0:36:12And I have a few talking points that I'd like to read to you

0:36:16all to put some context with the last year

0:36:18has been like for the Red cross while facing

0:36:20the unique challenges presented by the coronavirus outbreak.

0:36:24Red Crossers around the country continued

0:36:26working with compassion and determination

0:36:29to help people in need.

0:36:30Every day like many organizations and corporations

0:36:34we've had to shift how we deliver our mission because

0:36:36of COVID 19, we've created new protocols to help keep everyone

0:36:40safe in this environment.

0:36:42This has been a team effort.

0:36:44We work with government and public health officials

0:36:47to ensure the safety of our community and workforce

0:36:49while still providing help and hope.

0:36:52When disaster strikes instead of opening shelters

0:36:55we're prioritizing individual hotel rooms

0:36:58or dormitories style rooms to make sure

0:37:01people have a safe place to stay if they

0:37:04can't return home after a disaster

0:37:07to ensure blood donors safety.

0:37:09We have implemented added precautions at blood drives

0:37:12and donation centers beginning with contact list or monitors

0:37:15face mask increased spacing added enhanced cleaning

0:37:19procedures and donations by appointment only.

0:37:23In addition to relief and comfort for Disaster Survivor

0:37:26the Red Cross is also offering a virtual family

0:37:29Assistance Center to support families struggling with loss

0:37:32and grief due to the ongoing coronavirus

0:37:34pandemic offering information.

0:37:37Referrals and other services support families in to support

0:37:41vaccinate efforts.

0:37:43Red Cross volunteers are currently

0:37:44assisting at four sites in our county

0:37:48our community counts on the American red Cross for help

0:37:50every day and supporting our community

0:37:52is at the heart of what we do.

0:37:54Our work never stops even in the middle of a pandemic.

0:37:57Help can't wait.

0:37:59On behalf of the volunteers and those we serve,

0:38:02we want to think else Rito in the city council

0:38:05for standing with the American Red Cross

0:38:07And that concludes my comments We definitely

0:38:10want to thank the city of Dallas Rito

0:38:12for being a partner This is one of my favorite months out

0:38:14of the year.

0:38:15We get to have some.

0:38:17Well I guess another years would be actual FaceTime thank you

0:38:20for not having a video one I've been

0:38:22trying to knock the wrinkles out of my dress shirt.

0:38:24That's been in the back of my closet for the last year.

0:38:28And we are here to support.

0:38:30So if I can ever be of any kind of support

0:38:33to the council connecting the citizens to with the Red

0:38:37Cross do not hesitate to reach out everyone knows well,

0:38:41maybe not everyone, but I do work for Contra Costa County

0:38:44Supervisor John Joy and I can always be reached in our office

0:38:47there.

0:38:48Thank you very much for some of your time this evening.

0:38:51Thank you very much.

0:38:53Thank you so much.

0:38:54And with that, I will just briefly

0:38:57announce that the public written public comments received

0:39:00by 4:00 p.m. deadline today were posted online and provided

0:39:03directly to the city council.

0:39:05This does include comments on items not on the agenda.

0:39:10I receive from Cordell handler Robin Mitchell and Caleb

0:39:13Birdwell And with that, I will move on

0:39:17to our request to speak mayor.

0:39:19We have sir requests to speak at this time.

0:39:22Can you just confirm the 3 minute time

0:39:25limit how many people have said requests to speak at this time.

0:39:29Yes three's good.

0:39:30Thank you.

0:39:31OK then I will go ahead and proceed.

0:39:33Our first speaker is i read.

0:39:35I may have given you permission to end yourself

0:39:38You can go ahead and begin your comments now.

0:39:41Thank.

0:39:43I think it's time to stop the blame shifting

0:39:46and I would like to quote from the auditor's report city of El

0:39:50Serino excessive spending and insufficient efforts

0:39:53to address our list financial condition jeopardize the city's

0:39:58ongoing fiscal viability.

0:40:01The city's poor budget developed practices have led

0:40:04to substantial increases in budget expenditures

0:40:08that it cannot afford.

0:40:10Poor budget mind practices have also allowed city departments

0:40:15to routinely overspend.

0:40:18For example elsa Pareto city management Department

0:40:21spent a total of $9 million beyond its budget

0:40:27from fiscal year 2000 15, 16 through to 1920.

0:40:32Even after city approved budget increases

0:40:35for each of these years.

0:40:37Moreover even though Elsa read recently proposed spending

0:40:41reductions of one point $7 million per fiscal year

0:40:452020 twenty one we question whether those reductions are

0:40:49realistic given the absence of specific detail in the cities

0:40:54budget, which should explain how the city departments intend

0:40:58to achieve the reduction If management is

0:41:03unable my personal comments if management is unable perform

0:41:07the duties that the state auditor requests then perhaps

0:41:11the county should be asked to run Elsa vetoes flying since I

0:41:16think the two long term councilmen members who have

0:41:19acted as rubber stamps voting for every spending increase

0:41:23should consider resigning so that more engaged citizens can

0:41:26take your place Finally,

0:41:29I think that members should be questioned

0:41:32in order to determine if they are

0:41:34up to the task that lies ahead.

0:41:37Thank you very much.

0:41:40Thank you.

0:41:41Thank you my next speaker is Denise

The Red Cross representative described the year's changes: hotel or dormitory rooms instead of group shelters after disasters, added precautions at blood drives, a virtual family assistance center for people grieving covid losses, and volunteers assisting at four vaccination sites in the county. The representative also works in Supervisor John Gioia's office. The Clerk then listed the written comments received.

The first speaker read the auditor's own words back to the Council.

His opening: “I think it's time to stop the blame shifting.”

Then the quotation: “excessive spending and insufficient efforts to address [its] financial condition jeopardize the city's ongoing fiscal viability.”

And: “the city's poor budget development practices have led to substantial increases in budget expenditures that it cannot afford.”

The specific finding he highlighted: “El Cerrito['s] city management department spent a total of $9 million beyond its budget from fiscal year 2015-16 through 2019-20 — even after [the] city approved budget increases for each of these years.”

And the auditor's skepticism about the fix: reductions of “one point seven million… we question whether those reductions are realistic, given the absence of specific detail in the city's budget.”

His own conclusions were severe: if management cannot do what the auditor asks, “perhaps the county should be asked to run El Cerrito.”

And that “the two long term council members who have acted as rubber stamps, voting for every spending increase, should consider resigning.”

Significant

The audit found city management overspent its budget by $9 million across five years — each year after the Council had already approved an increase. The auditor also questioned whether the city's proposed $1.7 million of reductions were realistic, “given the absence of specific detail.” The speaker said the two long-serving councilmembers should consider resigning.

11 “Self-inflicted” captions 629–659

0:41:43thinks to me safe giving me the ability to I

0:41:45mean, you can begin your time now.

0:41:48Thank you.

0:41:49Good evening council members.

0:41:51The release of State Auditors report the supporting documents

0:41:55and the city's response that I read late this afternoon

0:41:58highlight the extreme financial mess for the residents

0:42:01taxpayers and employees in a democracy

0:42:04elected officials are accountable to the public

0:42:07that they govern.

0:42:08While accountability may be complicated

0:42:10it may be complicated.

0:42:12It should not be a tricky thing the lack of checks and balances

0:42:15in this city over the last decade

0:42:17have placed taxpayers residents and employees in harm's way

0:42:21with a catastrophic debt that is all

0:42:23that is mostly self-inflicted.

0:42:26Over the last 15 years due to the cozy

0:42:28relations ship of council members

0:42:30the city leadership and poor accounting practices.

0:42:34This is not a situation that the majority of Miss municipalities

0:42:37are facing in the state california

0:42:39or even in the United states.

0:42:40Our situation is self inflicted and as some of you

0:42:43already said tonight it will take years to fix.

0:42:46Sadly and frustrate only the city.

0:42:49The city management's identified potential options

0:42:51to save money shows an underwhelming an

0:42:55an underwhelming effort that even the big steps are not

0:42:58on the table.

0:42:59So I will tell you what I think are the seven examples

A second speaker, who had read the report that afternoon, made an argument about accountability.

Her characterization: the report, the supporting documents and the city's response “highlight the extreme financial mess for the residents, taxpayers and employees.”

Her principle: “in a democracy, elected officials are accountable to the public that they govern. While accountability may be complicated, it should not be a tricky thing.”

What she says produced it: “the lack of checks and balances in this city over the last decade have placed taxpayers, residents and employees in harm's way with a catastrophic debt that is mostly self-inflicted.”

Her attribution: “over the last 15 years, due to the cozy relationship of council members [and] the city leadership, and poor accounting practices.”

And the comparison: “this is not a situation that the majority of municipalities are facing in the state [of] California, or even in the United States. Our situation is self inflicted.”

Her judgment on the options staff had produced: “an underwhelming effort… even the big steps are not on the table.”

So she listed seven that were not.

Significant

“Our situation is self inflicted” — the argument that El Cerrito's position is not a shared municipal condition but a local failure, over fifteen years. The same speaker's charge that the big options are absent is answered three weeks later, when the April town hall lays out contracting out police or fire.

12 Seven things not on the table captions 660–703

0:43:02of what's not on the table.

0:43:03And there are many more.

0:43:05First consolidate public safety into one organization, which

0:43:08will save at least seven fifty thousand

0:43:10annually probably well over a million.

0:43:13Second freeze all employee pensions

0:43:15for at least three years, which will free millions of dollars

0:43:18in cash flow, which is the city's key problem in exchange

0:43:22for freezing the pension employees and unions should

0:43:25given should we have their wages reinstated

0:43:29and stop the furloughs.

0:43:313 eliminate non essential city management roles

0:43:34and non public safety personnel and outsource

0:43:38as much as possible to create a more cash flow

0:43:41positive situation as well as flexibility for renegotiate

0:43:46the kensington fire contract, which

0:43:49the city's fire chief said Feb.

0:43:522019 town hall that the city of El Cerrito

0:43:54subsidizes the contract to the tune over a half a million

0:43:57dollars which if this is true could be construed

0:44:00as a gift, which is not allowed under California law

0:44:03five monetize the fire services, including

0:44:06inspection medical responses.

0:44:07And so forth to create net revenue to mitigate costs

0:44:11and to recover all on all services

0:44:14provided to non residents six eliminate all

0:44:17non residential services in the park and Recreation Department.

0:44:20We are not here to subsidize non residents 7 pay employees based

0:44:27on comparable cities with UN diversified tax

0:44:30base which we have.

0:44:31We do not have a tax diversified base.

0:44:34We should not compare ourselves to Finally,

0:44:37I request that you inform that you form

0:44:39a citizens task force to make recommendations

0:44:41on a work around plan.

0:44:43The city's management has made its recommendations

0:44:46to you, which adds up to cheese doubling

0:44:48as I said a few months ago.

0:44:50We need you to look out for us.

0:44:52And we need to help you.

0:44:54So please let us put additional ideas on the table,

0:44:57you owe this to the residents, the taxpayers

0:45:01and our employees.

0:45:02Thank you.

Her list:

First: “consolidate public safety into one organization, which will save at least seven [hundred] fifty thousand annually, probably well over a million.”

Second: “freeze all employee pensions for at least three years, which will free millions of dollars in cash flow” — in exchange for which employees “should have their wages reinstated and stop the furloughs.”

Third: “eliminate non essential city management roles” and outsource where possible.

Fourth, and the most specific: renegotiate “the Kensington fire contract, which the city's fire chief said [at a] Feb. 2019 town hall that the city of El Cerrito subsidizes… to the tune [of] over a half a million dollars.”

Her legal point about that: if true “it could be construed as a gift, which is not allowed under California law.”

Fifth: “monetize the fire services, including inspection[s and] medical responses… to recover” costs from non-residents.

Sixth: “eliminate all non-residential services in the Park and Recreation Department. We are not here to subsidize non residents.”

Seventh: pay employees based on comparable cities with an undiversified tax base — “we do not have a tax diversified base.”

And a request: “form a citizens task force to make recommendations on a workaround plan… please let us put additional ideas on the table.”

Significant

A resident cites the fire chief's statement that El Cerrito subsidizes the Kensington fire contract by over half a million dollars — and argues that would be an unlawful gift of public funds. The statement was made at the 1 February 2020 town hall, not in 2019, and the figure was “just shy of about $500,000” — the increase Kensington would pay under a strict one-third share of salaries. Asked then whether the city is fully reimbursed, the chief agreed it is not, offset by the value of the arrangement. Nothing in this archive reports the gift-of-funds question being tested.

13 Five hundred and seventy thousand of diesel captions 704–862

0:45:03Thank you Next speaker is happy Gowdy.

0:45:06Howdy you can unmute yourself and begin your time now.

0:45:11Thank you.

0:45:12My name is Gowdy and i live an el Cerrito i'm speaking

0:45:19constant item for E. Edward regarding

0:45:24the recycling truck purchase.

0:45:27So i urge you to pull this consent item from the calendar

0:45:32and not adopt this purchase at this time.

0:45:38So your proposal five seventy thousand dollar investment

0:45:44in antiquated diesel technology that was not

0:45:49going to serve the community.

0:45:51Well.

0:45:52And i think it's simply doesn't live up to the responsibility

0:45:57to adhere to the Climate Action Plan

0:45:59and the climate emergency declaration

0:46:01that this council adopted.

0:46:03And so you should not act on it.

0:46:06I appreciate that the report did look

0:46:09at alternative fuel options natural Gas and Electric.

0:46:14And while it alluded that they were not feasible for the city

0:46:18that does not mean that it's a good time to double down

0:46:22on the past and commit ourselves to 10 or more years

0:46:26of diesel trucks that are not going to meet

0:46:31the needs of our community.

0:46:33State and the world as report stated there's very high demand

0:46:39for electric trucks in St. Is the state of California

0:46:46is a very strong leader in and pushing

0:46:50forward for heavy trucks and buses to the electrified.

0:46:54Very soon.

0:46:55So this is a very rapid evolving market in 2, 3, 4 years, things

0:47:01could look very different but we'll be stuck with the past

0:47:04if you move through with this purchase.

0:47:08I think it's really not in the spirit of our

0:47:16reduce reuse philosophy, the recycling center really

0:47:22emphasizes that we would just throw away these existing

0:47:26trucks and buy new ones.

0:47:28There's no reason that we can't with good maintenance

0:47:31keep these trucks going for 15 years or so.

0:47:37And so instead of hiring a contractor to give a status quo

0:47:42solution over and over again.

0:47:44I think we need to ask for a plan

0:47:47that's really forward looking.

0:47:49And I think by saving some money a thousand dollars on interest

0:47:54for this purchase alone in the future

0:47:57And you can buy a lot of maintenance

0:48:00and repair for ninety thousand dollars

0:48:02a year that this is going to cost.

0:48:05We can actually save some money in our integrated Waste

0:48:09Management Fund to make a more sensible purchase

0:48:14in a few years and take advantage of state incentives

0:48:17that will come along.

0:48:18Thank you.

0:48:20Thank you.

0:48:21And next speaker is Ricky seeing Ricky,

0:48:24you can unmute yourself begin your time now.

0:48:28Thank you.

0:48:28I'm actually gonna invite everybody

0:48:30to council for this laugh and the citizens.

0:48:33We to practice some deep breaths.

0:48:35So I'm gonna do my speech by talk today.

0:48:38I'm nominated by all if you had to take some deep breaths

0:48:40while we just breathe in through your nose hold that breath

0:48:43and release your mouth and just do

0:48:45that while I speak because I'm just noticing that there is

0:48:48a severe lack of mindful ness in especially the decision

0:48:51makers in our community, which scientifically speaking

0:48:54actually creates science is proving that if you don't

0:48:58practice mindfulness that that disturbs

0:49:00your focus, your clarity your decision making i mean,

0:49:03this is a fact, scientists proving so for us

0:49:06to start practicing these practices is vital for us

0:49:08to be able to make decisions that are going

0:49:10to be actually intercom it.

0:49:13So we can actually solve problems quickly.

0:49:15And we can get out of this emergency anyways

0:49:18so that being said first half honor.

0:49:20Karen, thank you so much.

0:49:22I hosted a civic study Group focused on the budget crisis.

0:49:26She sent an amazing write up which was really helpful.

0:49:29And the conversation.

0:49:30And then there was a few community members

0:49:32that came so thank you guys for coming

0:49:34and joining the conversation.

0:49:35The conversation was actually really interesting

0:49:37because I also invited some experts who are experts

0:49:41on cooperatives housing cooperatives

0:49:43banking cooperatives education quite you name it.

0:49:45They're like experts.

0:49:47They set it and even somebody from corporation Richman

0:49:50Princess attended as well.

0:49:52And they've doing some great work in Richmond

0:49:55and one of the things we found was actually,

0:49:57there was a cooperative here in L.A. Reno

0:49:59the preschool that's been around for knit since 1940.

0:50:01That said cooperatives are incredible

0:50:04the wonderful solution to all of our problems.

0:50:07We can consolidate a lot of different things,

0:50:10including the social emotional thing that I've been speaking

0:50:12above, we can actually create businesses

0:50:14and if the city doesn't want to do it.

0:50:16It doesn't matter what happens is

0:50:18a are the tax money that's brought by doing

0:50:20cooperatives makes a big deal.

0:50:21I'm going to host another I'm a host brainstorming.

0:50:23I really encourage city staff to show

0:50:26up that because it is so impressive

0:50:28when we work towards a goal.

0:50:31And we actually have ideas that are innovative and co-ops

0:50:34even that innovative.

0:50:35During pandemic cooperatives have flourished

0:50:37all over the world, not just here in America

0:50:40despite what's going on.

0:50:41They've actually closed.

0:50:43And it builds wealth.

0:50:44So that's a big thing.

0:50:45I think community wealth is huge.

0:50:47If if we just go.

0:50:49And there's so many ideas cooperatives there's

0:50:51so many buildings are empty.

0:50:53There's churches that empty their gift with housing

0:50:56we have the potential with as Bart situation

0:50:58to say to a co-operative housing cooperative

0:51:00we can literally flip.

0:51:01We can be a beacon you guys like the LSAT Rito

0:51:04can actually be an example for the rest of the country of how

0:51:07we can flip a city, but we have to look into this so I implore

0:51:11you guys attend to reach out to me

0:51:13reach out to the council members if we want to come to one

0:51:16of the brainstorming sessions, we

0:51:17have I will go to the committee meetings,

0:51:19but I also don't feel like they're

0:51:20run in effective constructive way I want to create

0:51:24construct conversations where we're going to solve problems,

0:51:27and also mindful of conversations.

0:51:28Thank you guys.

0:51:29Let's explore these ways.

0:51:31All right Thanks you complete request to speak at this time

0:51:39Thank you.

0:51:40We move on to the adoption consent Calendar

0:51:45I'm going to read each item and there is any item that someone

0:51:49would like to call on.

0:51:50I'd like to know about it.

0:51:52Item four A is the problems in which

0:51:55we heard about recognizing education and sharing

0:51:59day for as the proclamation recognizing March's American

0:52:05Red Cross which we also heard about item 4C

0:52:10is the timely antique Asian racism resolution, which

0:52:13other cities have are passing around the Bay Area item 40 is

0:52:18the twenty twenty general plan annual pro-gay

0:52:21report done by our staff item for E

0:52:24to authorize lease purchase two,

0:52:27we're loading recycling trucks with item 0 oK we'll pull e

0:52:36an item for F is the construction contract award

0:52:39for the Carlson Boulevard in San Diego street cross walk

0:52:43improvements and so yes Mayor Pro Tem i use for C for C

0:52:58and I'd like to pull for D so we have four C or D and paul is

0:53:09yours again LA Councilman remotely or eat for E OK Can we

0:53:17have a move the rest of the items which include for a four

0:53:25B and four f and I need a notion to approve a B and F it's been

Howdy Goudey asked the Council to pull the recycling truck purchase from consent, on climate grounds.

His objection: it is a “five seventy thousand dollar investment in antiquated diesel technology.”

His argument from the city's own commitments: it “simply doesn't live up to the responsibility to adhere to the Climate Action Plan and the climate emergency declaration that this council adopted.”

He credited the report for looking at alternatives — “natural gas and electric” — but rejected the conclusion.

His reasoning: that they were found not feasible “does not mean that it's a good time to double down on the past and commit ourselves to 10 or more years of diesel trucks.”

The speaker argued the purchase would “commit ourselves to 10 or more years of diesel trucks”; staff later said the trucks are compatible with renewable diesel, so a later fuel switch would not change this decision.

A second speaker urged mindfulness practice for decision-makers, thanked the City Manager for a write-up for a civic study group on the budget crisis, and proposed cooperatives — housing, banking, education — as a way to build community wealth, citing a cooperative preschool in El Cerrito since 1940.

Items 4C (the anti-Asian racism resolution), 4D (the general plan annual progress report) and 4E (the recycling trucks) were pulled for discussion.

The consent calendar was otherwise adopted.

Significant

A speaker argued the $570,000 purchase would “commit ourselves to 10 or more years of diesel trucks” despite the climate emergency declaration; staff said the trucks are compatible with renewable diesel. The speaker's point is that infeasibility today is not a reason to lock in ten years. When the item is pulled, the question asked is why biodiesel “was left out as a consideration,” and the purchase is then approved.

14 “They are scared” captions 863–1007

0:53:34moved by council member I didn't buy her a second count no

0:53:38Ables seconded it can we have

0:53:40a roll call both please, if I may have put in King.

0:53:45Yes council member Abel sin Hi council

0:53:50member Mohammed I can see member redneck i motion carries.

0:53:54Thank you, Mayor pro tem I go, do you want to talk about 4C

0:54:01guess This is something that I want to make sure our residents

0:54:07are mindful of and no that there has been so much

0:54:11xenophobia an anti Asian racism all over the country especially

0:54:17here in the Bay Area my colleagues and stand is

0:54:21with assembly member Evan Lowe and the Asian American elected

0:54:26officials had a press corp appearance on Sunday

0:54:33over the weekend.

0:54:34And I wanted to make sure that residents here know that we

0:54:39stand by our Asian American residents

0:54:43here according to the 2010 census we had 28

0:54:47and that was more than 10 years ago,

0:54:51I suspect we're between 30 35% possibly higher

0:54:55now with the 2020 census.

0:54:59So of this council is supported of

0:55:03our Asian American community.

0:55:05There have been hate crimes in year cities,

0:55:08the president the President Biden spoke about hate crimes

0:55:13there have been killings of senior citizens

0:55:16locally in Oakland, San Francisco there have been

0:55:20crimes on our small businesses Asian-American businesses

0:55:25and I want to residents to know that we our Asian unity

0:55:30and all communities here and we're saying no hate

0:55:34and as the second elected asian-American official

0:55:40the one with III, who is my colleague council

0:55:44member Modi Moti the I know we all support this,

0:55:47but I just wanted to let folks know many small businesses are

0:55:52Asian American and they are scared many of our residents

0:55:57are seen as and they are scared.

0:55:59They don't want to venture to San francisco

0:56:02and to Oakland and in some parts of Berkeley.

0:56:05But we want to make sure that that does not spread here.

0:56:10So I know with our Police Chief our police force our volunteers

0:56:14Crime Prevention Committee we will look after each other

0:56:18and make sure that hate does it spread here in El Salvador.

0:56:22Thank you am i muted here now.

0:56:30Oh yes.

0:56:33Council my mama mama thank you Mayor

0:56:36if I do see that the chair of the human relations Commission

0:56:41is on an he may want to speak to this

0:56:44did come up the Human Relations Commission meeting.

0:56:48And I really appreciate the discussion there.

0:56:52So if he would like to make a comment or make a statement

0:56:57that would be really great.

0:56:58Thank you.

0:56:59Council member my team.

0:57:00I am going to give me both Mr Wilson and Wilson and Walter

0:57:04Williams, the ability to unmute themselves because they did

0:57:08have a statement they wanted to share

0:57:09some Human Relations Commission thank you Can you hear me.

0:57:16Hear me.

0:57:17I may not.

0:57:18Yes may not.

0:57:18Thank you.

0:57:21I think I hear you know you know you may have the audio,

0:57:31and it's creating a feedback when you speak maybe we can go

0:57:41to Walter Williams first and come back to Mina mr.

0:57:48Williams you have some here why don't you go ahead

0:57:53and we'll get them in a secondly Oh OK.

0:57:58Well my me my colleague meter here.

0:58:01I'm Walter marcy Williams, the third

0:58:04I'm the chair, the H Ms R C the humans committee,

0:58:08the humans released his committee.

0:58:10And we are here because we were together a program

0:58:14to support the Asian community here in El Serino

0:58:17and locally to begin, I was going

0:58:22to read our current directive and then my colleague media

0:58:25will read the second part to begin as the culprit nineteen

0:58:30global pandemic pass through false political narrative

0:58:33directed cause it responsibility towards the Asian American

0:58:38community hate crimes against individuals of Asian

0:58:41and have increase.

0:58:42We hold fast and stand together as a community

0:58:46through all circumstances we explicitly recognize

0:58:49this divisiveness as debilitating

0:58:52for those being targeted and for our community at large.

0:58:55The el Serino Human Relations Commission

0:58:58stands united against hate and holds the right rising violence

0:59:02against our Asian-American brothers and sisters

0:59:05as Intolerable Acts against humanity in our role as humans

0:59:09relation commit mission the HRC our goal

0:59:12is to develop positive human relations through education

0:59:15encouragement greater respect and understanding

0:59:18between people their equal opportunity

0:59:20rights under the law and in recognizing the value

0:59:24in racial, ethnic, religious and cultural diversity

0:59:27of El Cerritos Community our purpose is to initiate

0:59:31educational and cultural programs that promote tolerance

0:59:34and mutual respect between all persons

0:59:39Are you with us Mina mina and you didn't

0:59:49mean f you went idea again.

0:59:55We are not able to hear you walter.

1:00:04Looks like you guys are you may not be working you may need to,

1:00:09of the absolutely no problem in response

1:00:12to the current social climate that Elsa Rito Human Relations

1:00:15Commission will host a series of stories

1:00:17searing searing sessions opens space to witness celebrate

1:00:21and better understand the strengths

1:00:23and struggles Asian community.

1:00:25The stories searing sessions truth

1:00:28recruits who reckon affiliation will commence

1:00:30on Wednesday, April 14.

1:00:32And continue every other week through Wednesday,

1:00:35June twenty third two thousand twenty

1:00:37one we request that members of the Asian-American community

1:00:40but stories to share reach out to any member

1:00:44Elsa Reno's city council or human relations commission.

1:00:48You may also send an email to H.R. C Elsa Doe at gmail.

1:00:55Again that's all lowercase h R C Elsa Serino at G.M. Dot.

1:01:02We also invite the community at large to join for these events.

1:01:06More details to come.

1:01:07We're working on flyers for the event.

1:01:10And we've destroyed distribute them

1:01:12as soon as they are available thank you

1:01:14for inviting us this evening.

1:01:16And we hope that we can be of some service in these

1:01:19dark times thank you very much.

1:01:23That's good news.

1:01:24We all enjoyed the conversations african-American

1:01:27and racism that happened from the HRC previously.

1:01:31So this is incredible good news.

1:01:34Are there any other comments about this.

1:01:37I just wanted to say thank you to what

1:01:40the chair Human Relations Commission

1:01:42and thank you to my classmate Minna

1:01:45and know that as a former chair of the Human Relations

1:01:49commission more than 10 years ago,

1:01:52I want to say thank you to that amazing commission

1:01:55that we have here.

1:01:56And also read out.

1:01:58So appreciate you stepping up and doing

1:02:00this for our community where you're United here.

1:02:03Thank you.

1:02:04Indeed.

1:02:05Thank you all.

1:02:06I hear a motion on item 4 C i'll send moved

1:02:14by council member Marty Jarmon.

1:02:16I see council member able send it Can I have a roll call,

1:02:21please.

1:02:22Finally I keep attempting to Hi Council member able sing.

The anti-Asian racism resolution was taken up, and the Mayor Pro Tem spoke to it directly.

His framing: “there has been so much xenophobia and anti-Asian racism all over the country, especially here in the Bay Area.”

He had joined “Asian American elected officials” at a press appearance over the weekend.

The local figures: “according to the 2010 census we had 28” percent, “and that was more than 10 years ago. I suspect we're between 30 [and] 35% possibly higher now with the 2020 census.”

What he listed: “hate crimes in [our] cities,” “killings of senior citizens locally in Oakland, San Francisco,” and “crimes on… Asian-American businesses.”

His own position: “as the second elected Asian-American official” in the city, alongside Motoyama.

And the reason for saying it aloud: “many small businesses are Asian American and they are scared. Many of our residents are” Asian American “and they are scared.”

Motoyama invited the Human Relations Commission to speak. Its chair, Walter Williams, read the commission's statement that it “stands united against hate” and announced a series of story-sharing sessions for the Asian American community, every other week from Wednesday 14 April to 23 June 2021.

The resolution passed.

Significant

The Mayor Pro Tem cites 28% Asian American in the 2010 census and suspects “between 30 [and] 35%” now. The resolution passes on 16 March 2021, the day of the Atlanta spa shootings, which are not mentioned in the captions. The Human Relations Commission announces story-sharing sessions for the Asian American community beginning 14 April.

15 The housing progress report captions 1008–1189

1:02:28I can submit Burma to Yemen I can see a member

1:02:32of ethnic mushing carries.

1:02:35Thank you.

1:02:37I pulled for D and I'm hoping Karen

1:02:41schon or someone can come up.

1:02:44I have no concerns or problems I just

1:02:47wanted to embellish the work that our city staff has done.

1:02:51I think this is a great document that required by our state.

1:02:56And I just wanted to get some just

1:02:58general personal introduction about this document

1:03:02because we do see it every year.

1:03:04It does take some time to do.

1:03:07And it gets a great briefing of the city goes through

1:03:10and what we're involved.

1:03:12So Sean why you start with just a little introductory

1:03:15because it's different a little bit different every year.

1:03:18And sometimes you put things on the consent calendar

1:03:20and there are things that we just need

1:03:22to hear about and know about.

1:03:24And then I just have two or three very short questions.

1:03:27Sean Yeah sure.

1:03:29Thank you, Mayor.

1:03:30So so Yeah.

1:03:31Just to give you a little bit of background

1:03:33on the general plan annual progress report

1:03:36it is required by state statute.

1:03:38So as you probably know every city in California

1:03:41is required to have a general plan, which is sort

1:03:45of the Constitution then, of growth and policy making

1:03:49in your city.

1:03:51So all of you know all the actions

1:03:53that the city council takes.

1:03:55The land use policies, the established et cetera.

1:03:59Are required to be consistent with the general plan.

1:04:02So the general plan has a series of required.

1:04:04What are called elements, but they're

1:04:06really chapters you can think of them as chapters

1:04:10and these are topic areas that the state establishes.

1:04:14And so our general plan meets all of those criteria

1:04:18and then within each chapter or element

1:04:21there are a series of policies.

1:04:23So what the general plan annual progress report

1:04:25requires us to do is each calendar year at the beginning

1:04:28of each calendar year.

1:04:30So it's required that we submit it to the state

1:04:34by April 1 for the previous calendar year.

1:04:37So that's why right now, we're discussing

1:04:40the 2020 general plan annual progress report

1:04:43but so what we're required to do is

1:04:44to go through all of the general plan policy is

1:04:49and describe what actions have been

1:04:53taken to further those the further those policies

1:04:57each year and what.

1:05:00So what actions have been taken.

1:05:04Yeah sorry.

1:05:05Just like I said, what actions have

1:05:07been taken within the last calendar year

1:05:08to further those to further each general plan policy.

1:05:11So that's what that report does you'll see it just goes

1:05:14through all the policies in order

1:05:16and has a narrative about what actions the city

1:05:20took in calendar year 2020 You know I'll just note real

1:05:26quickly, I mean, you know as has been noted many times

1:05:30before 2020 was a pretty unusual year, not just for our city

1:05:34but for the world so there are some things

1:05:38that are pretty different in this report

1:05:41compared to last reports.

1:05:43You know the report notes that we didn't hold

1:05:46a lot of city events that we normally

1:05:48hold the Fourth of July events.

1:05:50The events at the street theater etc so we still put them

1:05:54in there that they know that those are ongoing city events,

1:05:57we were not able to hold them this year due to the pandemic.

1:06:02But that we anticipate holding them in the future

1:06:04as soon as it's safe to do.

1:06:06So again.

1:06:07So you know that's just one.

1:06:09One of the unusual things about this year's report.

1:06:11Thank you Yeah hopefully that's a good overview.

1:06:14And I'm happy to answer any question.

1:06:16Thank you.

1:06:17I just have a few quick a couple quick questions on page

1:06:21for you talk about the General Plan update must be funding

1:06:26for that must be identified.

1:06:28What does that mean.

1:06:30That's correct.

1:06:31So our general plan our existing general plan was adopted

1:06:34in nineteen ninety nine.

1:06:37So it is over 20 years old at this time.

1:06:40So I'm still working off the nineteen ninety nine

1:06:43General plan is that right.

1:06:46That's correct.

1:06:47That's not me not hugely unusual.

1:06:50I mean, it is getting towards the older end of a lifespan

1:06:56for a general plan.

1:06:58But you know there are cities that have equally

1:07:02old General plans are older.

1:07:05So you at some point, we would like

1:07:08to be able to update the general plan,

1:07:10but it is it is one of those sort of unfunded

1:07:13mandates that the state requires to do.

1:07:15So the state requires us to have a general plan but there aren't

1:07:20there aren't a ton of funding sources

1:07:24that are available to prepare those documents.

1:07:26And there and they're quite you know it's quite time consuming

1:07:29and can be costly to prepare when it's requires

1:07:33an environmental impact report.

1:07:35So it will require a lot of public outreach.

1:07:39And require an environmental impact report.

1:07:42And so it will take a lot of staff consulting time to do

1:07:46say until it's something that the city council.

1:07:49You know if you share the desire to update the general plan,

1:07:53then you'll need to be thinking about how to budget

1:07:56for that in coming years.

1:07:58OK.

1:07:59I was going to mention the climb change update and the fact

1:08:04that council members send in Rudnick are working something.

1:08:08But you're saying everything in this report

1:08:11is what happened last year.

1:08:12Is that correct.

1:08:14Now what's going to be happening correct.

1:08:17Yeah.

1:08:18It's for calendar year 2020.

1:08:20We'll see that.

1:08:21And we'll see that next year.

1:08:23OK that's a deal and finally, the day in the history section,

1:08:28we talk about Elm Street is going to be moving.

1:08:32And that will be rehabilitation.

1:08:34Is that just a pipe dream or is that real none of that happened

1:08:37right on Elm Street.

1:08:38That's something I would look forward to.

1:08:40I would love that center to be another Elsa Serino venue Yeah.

1:08:45So we hope it's not a pipe dream for sure.

1:08:48The there is a new developer of that project

1:08:53and they seem to be moving forward.

1:08:55They are eager to submit a while building actually

1:09:01a building permit has been submitted they're eager to have

1:09:04that building permit issued.

1:09:05They've been working with us closely recently on some issues

1:09:10surrounding the rehabilitation of that house As you know,

1:09:14there was a development agreement that was adopted

1:09:16for that project and so that development agreement provides

1:09:20longer timelines for the developer

1:09:24to act on these permits than if there wasn't

1:09:26one that normally would have two years

1:09:29to that's really happening.

1:09:31So what you're.

1:09:32What's that.

1:09:33That's really happening.

1:09:34It's gonna happen.

1:09:35We certainly hope so it appears that there

1:09:37is as movement lately.

1:09:39And it's not a matter of budget funding.

1:09:42And we have to deal with not for the city.

1:09:44I mean, it's a matter of the developer securing

1:09:47their construction financing.

1:09:48OK, thank you.

1:09:50That's really all I had.

1:09:52There was a lot of housing stuff and I'll

1:09:55leave that up to anyone else that might

1:09:57some of our housing experts or anyone

1:09:59else have any comments section.

1:10:01Any questions.

1:10:02Yes.

1:10:03Councilman Marty Yarmuth thank you son.

1:10:07Can you give us a quick update on how

1:10:09we're doing towards the goals.

1:10:14I mean real real high level.

1:10:16I can tell you that we are what we are one of the very

1:10:20few cities in northern California

1:10:22that is exempt from SB 35, which is a streamlining

1:10:26streamlined legislation that was passed recently

1:10:30and cities that are not meeting arena goals

1:10:33are applicants can submit applications and exercise

1:10:39their rights to that streamline Those streamlining provisions

1:10:41Elsa el Cerrito is on a very short list of cities

1:10:45that are exempt from that because we

1:10:47are meeting our arena goals.

1:10:51OK can you ever get those comments going promotion

1:10:55on common consent item for D move

1:11:02against The motion made by council member multiple

1:11:06on seconded by council member Abel said roll call, please.

The 2020 General Plan Annual Progress Report was received.

Staff explained that the report is required by state statute: by 1 April each year the city reports, policy by policy, what it did in the previous calendar year to further its general plan. Several ongoing city events had not been held in 2020 because of the pandemic.

The Mayor, who pulled the item, asked about the general plan itself: it dates from 1999, and updating it would need public outreach and an environmental impact report, an unfunded state mandate the Council would have to budget for. Staff said the Elm Street house rehabilitation has a new developer, a building permit has been submitted, and it depends on the developer securing construction financing.

Asked by Motoyama how the city is doing, staff said El Cerrito is “on a very short list of cities” exempt from SB 35 streamlining “because we are meeting our [RHNA] goals.”

Received and filed.

Cross-reference

The annual progress report is how the state tracks whether a city is permitting the housing it committed to. Asked for a high-level update, staff said El Cerrito is one of very few cities exempt from SB 35 streamlining “because we are meeting our [RHNA] goals.”

16 Why not biodiesel captions 1190–1530

1:11:14Deli I name Potemkin too.

1:11:16Council member Abel Singh high Council member Matty Emma.

1:11:21I can some member ethnic.

1:11:24Motion carries thank you, Sean.

1:11:27And thank you.

1:11:28Council members.

1:11:29Item four e.

1:11:30Council member Mota Yama s thank you.

1:11:34I wanted to get a better sense of what our options

1:11:38are when I read this.

1:11:41Report I was wondering why biodiesel for example,

1:11:46was left out as a consideration.

1:11:49I did do a little bit of internet research, which

1:11:52is always a little dangerous.

1:11:54But I did know that in Berkeley they

1:11:56had used the same procurement had very similar report,

1:12:01but they also included biodiesel as an option.

1:12:04And so I would like to know why we didn't consider that are we

1:12:09not giving enough guidance to the procure procurement

1:12:13consultant to really impress upon them that we really are

1:12:16a green city and that we have as high an expectation in terms

1:12:20of understanding what our options are as any other city

1:12:23to become Berkeley specifically.

1:12:25But since we are working on these things.

1:12:27I think that i would like to make sure

1:12:30that we are in the forefront on green issues

1:12:33as much as possible.

1:12:34So if there's any feedback that staff has that will be really

1:12:37great to hear staff ideas Yes good evening

1:12:40the mayor and cITY COUNCIL My name's Will Provost

1:12:43the operations and environmental services division manager

1:12:46and I can answer that.

1:12:48So biodiesel is something we have looked

1:12:50at in the past and also even more

1:12:52recently renewable diesel which is similar.

1:12:54I'll alternative fuel to biodiesel

1:12:55but it runs a little bit cleaner.

1:12:57And a lot of fleets are moving to and actually many years ago

1:13:03in 2008 to about 2010 our recycling fleet did use

1:13:07biodiesel and we started in separate storage containers

1:13:11and used it to fuel our vehicles,

1:13:14but it actually turned out to be more cost.

1:13:17We had to store it separately, there

1:13:19were some issues with that and the engines some of the trucks

1:13:23reported problems that required costly repairs.

1:13:26And then just on a per unit basis because it was not

1:13:29bulk pricing with our mother's diesel vehicles

1:13:32around the city on a per unit basis, it was more costly.

1:13:36And so we did switch back to conventional diesel.

1:13:38That's not to say that we could move to biodiesel

1:13:41or all these trucks considered under this procurement

1:13:44would be compatible with biodiesel or renewable diesel.

1:13:47But I think moving forward, we'd probably

1:13:50renewable diesel is what a lot of fleets

1:13:53moving toward because it burns cleaner

1:13:55and is better for the engines.

1:13:57But we'd want to look at that probably holistically

1:14:00with other city departments.

1:14:01So we wouldn't have to have a separate storage

1:14:04and we could get that whole unit pricing.

1:14:07So it's something we're looking at.

1:14:09We didn't call it out here.

1:14:10Perhaps we should because it didn't

1:14:12come to mind as like electric vehicles or CNG

1:14:15as being on the forefront like some of those items.

1:14:19But renewable diesel is definitely

1:14:21one of the more easier opportunity

1:14:23to implement in terms of low hanging fruit

1:14:25because you don't have to add any adjustments

1:14:28to your vehicles.

1:14:29We could almost overnight switch our fuel source

1:14:33with coordinated the increase in cost and coordination

1:14:36across departments.

1:14:38Well, I here have a question Thank you Mayor.

1:14:43Well I'm on the map commission and the Marathon refinery.

1:14:51They are closing many of their operations.

1:14:55One department.

1:14:56They will keep is renewable diesel

1:14:59and that will provide renewable diesel for the earmarks

1:15:05that that end up going from Martinez

1:15:10all the way to LA Antioch so what

1:15:16I support renewable diesel.

1:15:18You're right.

1:15:20It is cleaner and that's what a lot

1:15:23of get trucks are opting for now and marathon

1:15:28is supportive of that.

1:15:30And that's why inside it not to close up the whole refinery.

1:15:35So it's definitely something we could look into and like

1:15:38get that cost differential.

1:15:40You know talk to the fire department

1:15:41see if they'd be willing to use it in fire trucks try and do

1:15:45that coordination and just and also look at the greenhouse

1:15:49gas impacts like what the cost and what's the marginal benefit

1:15:52of that action.

1:15:53So it's something we could look at in the future.

1:15:56And I'm also joined by Carter Schulz

1:15:58with our three consulting who helped evaluate the procurement

1:16:02and work for the city overseeing our recycling

1:16:04division and event or with the public, where the public works

1:16:07director can also help answer questions if you have any more

1:16:11be further staff comments you better

1:16:14Garth in the other comment.

1:16:20Jan council member Ableton it's actually a comment

1:16:25that I guess a question.

1:16:27I was a.

1:16:28There was a discussion about that particular type fuel

1:16:32and one of the issues seemed to be availability.

1:16:35So I was just wondering if when is looked into they could look

1:16:39at that issue to also yeah, it's definitely something we could

1:16:43look into if we'd have to switch fuel providers

1:16:46or how it could be delivered.

1:16:51My remotely Alma My understanding

1:16:54is we do have a diesel vehicles now

1:16:58and we are potentially procuring other vehicles.

1:17:01So at what point do we have enough of economy of scale

1:17:07to make that switch over to a renewable diesel

1:17:12or something less bad than regular diesel fuel Yeah.

1:17:17So we have diesel trucks now and the ones

1:17:19who are using our diesel also how they're fuel.

1:17:22Now is with an underground storage tank

1:17:24at the public safety building that's shared by the fire

1:17:27department and the fire department vehicles are very

1:17:30they're very technical technologically advanced

1:17:33and need very specific few very filtered fuel

1:17:38just because you don't want engine trouble and your fire

1:17:40trucks and I understand they can be kind of finicky

1:17:44and so you know we just have to be careful.

1:17:46So it would take some coordination

1:17:47if we were to use that same tank we'd have to get the fire

1:17:51department on board with the same proposed

1:17:53to use the same fuel as a recycling fleet.

1:17:55So that's something that would have to be accomplish

1:17:58Alternatively as in the past, we could use a separate fuel tank.

1:18:02But that comes with its own ball of wax

1:18:04extra cost probably has meant reporting and other things.

1:18:08But it's something that could be done.

1:18:10We could make the switch citywide i understand

1:18:13some other cities have.

1:18:14But there would be a cost to that.

1:18:16And some operational challenges Would there

1:18:22be any penalty for us if we gave you a little bit more

1:18:26time to do some additional research for this

1:18:31and it wouldn't change.

1:18:33It wouldn't change this procurement

1:18:34because the diesel trucks that are being recommend

1:18:37for procurement tonight they're all

1:18:40competitive with renewable diesel.

1:18:42So choosing to do that fuel source at a later date when

1:18:45changed this decision.

1:18:48And I know go ahead.

1:18:52But to address the question put by Mr Dowdy earlier.

1:18:59Is there any way to get a sense of what

1:19:03rebate or additional support we might get if we were to choose

1:19:08electrical or Is there any benefit in waiting a few months

1:19:12to see if that would pan out.

1:19:15Yeah, we have.

1:19:17We have been watching you know the financing kind grants

1:19:20and resources available and tap Garth here because they had

1:19:24a section in the R3 memo that talked about financing

1:19:27opportune But I will say, we to the point of timing we

1:19:33really do need the trucks soon.

1:19:35And a sap really they're approaching eleven and 13 years

1:19:39old, which is beyond their replacement

1:19:42cycle typical useful life.

1:19:43And it's beyond depreciation cycle

1:19:45and just from a day to day basis you know

1:19:48I can I'd like to give a shout out to Mario Gonzalez

1:19:51recycle recycling operation supervisor who works every day

1:19:55to keep our fleet up and running an operation to make sure

1:19:58that we can reliably serve consistently our businesses,

1:20:03our commercial accounts our multi-family dwellings

1:20:05and he works every day to make sure those trucks operation

1:20:10and the trucks have some of them pick hundreds of stocks a day

1:20:15with a hydraulic arm and so it can be there's a lot of wear

1:20:19and tear.

1:20:20And so all that to say, we need these trucks soon just so

1:20:25that we can provide safe and reliable collection services

1:20:28to the community that I don't think

1:20:32you know and I'm not sure the incentives will

1:20:33change in the next few months.

1:20:36Or the technical g but I'll pass it on to Mark

1:20:40to kind of elaborate if Thanks will

1:20:43and good evening mayor council members

1:20:45Garth Schulz with our three consulting,

1:20:47we assisted on this matter.

1:20:50And for transparency.

1:20:51I served as waste prevention specialist and then operations

1:20:54manager in the L Street recycling Division at the time

1:20:58when the last trucks were purchased

1:21:00and when we tested fuel and diesel that was from 2006

1:21:03until 2012 excuse me 14.

1:21:07So with respect to the question around the electric vehicle

1:21:11procurement I've actually done some more additional research

1:21:14on even since this memo was originally

1:21:16drafted because this question can

1:21:17continues to come up with cities all throughout the Bay Area.

1:21:21The bottom line here is that this is still several years

1:21:24away from being in practical development

1:21:25for a fleet of this scale and size

1:21:27and I'll get to a point of reference

1:21:29for example City of Palo Alto has one vehicle that has

1:21:34been under pilot testing phase.

1:21:36The city purchased that vehicle for its waste hauler.

1:21:40It's been in place since twenty nineteen in had a myriad set

1:21:44problems with the battery functioning

1:21:46and the electrical units they had planned

1:21:48on purchasing additional vehicles as recently

1:21:50as this coming fiscal year.

1:21:52But because the state of the industry.

1:21:55They are deferring that purchase of potential One

1:21:57or two additional test pilot vehicles by an additional 2, 3

1:22:01fiscal years.

1:22:02And again, those are a prototype vehicles for testing purposes

1:22:06on a policy perspective only the anticipated costs for purchase

1:22:10those vehicles is a minimum of twice the existing diesel fuel

1:22:14alternatives and also require significant infrastructure

1:22:18for the charging elements.

1:22:19So there are some tentative rebates available out there.

1:22:22I would say actual rebates not tentative rebates

1:22:25but they are theoretically available to the city.

1:22:27If you were to move in this direction

1:22:30those rebates only partially offset the more than double

1:22:33cost in terms of the new purchase price.

1:22:38I would guess based on recent conversations

1:22:40that we're Five to 10 years away from a profile application

1:22:44for the city of El Cerrito larger

1:22:46fleets in much larger communities

1:22:48may have some opportunity.

1:22:50But I know of no existing plans to really

1:22:53that forward in broad strokes terms right now.

1:22:56So just simply isn't ready, Mr Gowdy

1:22:59did reference the state's policy directions

1:23:01coming directly from carb on.

1:23:03There are some pretty ambitious goals for the truck

1:23:07manufacturers to start providing electric vehicles,

1:23:09but they still don't have a plan and they

1:23:12don't have real reasonable operating prototypes in place

1:23:15as of yet.

1:23:17So in short answer you're many years away from this

1:23:21being a practical reality.

1:23:23So far I am I am had questions to staff about electrical two

1:23:29and moving toward that goal, which I think we need to.

1:23:33But in addition to price and cost prohibition

1:23:37I was told that they don't work as well in the hills of El

1:23:42Serino and that there's real physical issues

1:23:46dealing with power and hills.

1:23:49Is that something that's going to be improved

1:23:51as well in the near future.

1:23:53It's part of what they have to improve.

1:23:54I've heard that same feedback from those operating

1:23:57in Palo Alto Sacramento a couple of other areas.

1:24:00The best application for these vehicles.

1:24:02So far has been in flat land commercial areas

1:24:05in one of the reasons being, of course The Hills is you've got

1:24:10breaking power weight capacity limitations

1:24:11but it's also the fact that battery unit is running what's

1:24:14called the PTO, which is the guts of the body truck, which

1:24:17makes all the moving parts of the body

1:24:19to arms that compare action units all

1:24:21run and function as well.

1:24:23So part of the reason as I understand the hills are

1:24:26an issue is that you're adding a battery

1:24:28to what's already heavy truck.

1:24:30So making it heavier.

1:24:31You're also then seeking to load that truck up as much

1:24:34as you can with the collected recycling

1:24:36stream, which adds weight.

1:24:37And so is it primarily a weight issue at this point.

1:24:42You don't want to have excessively

1:24:43heavy trucks and hills When you have the possibility

1:24:46failure of that.

1:24:49I hope I live that long.

1:24:50Yes Mayor Pro Tem Kindle thank you there at the last MCP

1:24:55executive board meeting we did discuss

1:24:58this electrical infrastructure and we are years behind Elsa

1:25:03Pareto we as you know, we don't have the money

1:25:07to stand on things like this, especially emphasize that there

1:25:11are grants available to get the city Richmond has much

1:25:15more infrastructure than we do.

1:25:18And so this is years from now, and even in cities Marin County

1:25:25they don't have that infrastructure as well.

1:25:27But we did discuss this, we will continue to discuss this.

1:25:32And I will report that on what we're doing.

1:25:37Contra Costa county wise and insular

1:25:42and Napa County but you're right.

1:25:45Nancy Skinner has a bill SB 18 that work on trying to get more

1:25:52funding on And they consider heavy trucking and trucking

1:25:56cross-country and things like vehicles on that

1:26:01have to do work like this.

1:26:04And also by the shipping ports they

1:26:09see hydrogen more as a possible lady

1:26:13than with the infrastructure on that

1:26:15that is more they see that more reserved for cars and buses.

1:26:22I want to give you my two cents.

1:26:24Thank you.

1:26:25Thank any further comments on this item.

1:26:29Do I hear a motion some move by mayor Pro Tem quinto.

1:26:38Do I hear second.

1:26:40Can I ask for an amendment to have the information

1:26:46about the diesel biodiesel recycled diesel

1:26:49to come back before proved or just some kind of report back.

1:26:55I just want to leave it open.

1:27:00So Mayor council member Morton Gama wants to amend item

1:27:084 e to have a report back on.

1:27:14Can you repeat what you just said.

1:27:17Report back on the possibility of having

1:27:20the biodiesel the recycled diesel

1:27:22or the renewable diesel as a fuel source

1:27:26for the people's and that's with along to authorize

1:27:30the lease purchase.

1:27:32Is that correct.

1:27:33Yes.

1:27:34If I may.

1:27:35Jump in and Garth be able to help with this point as well.

1:27:39But the financing there's a time limit

1:27:41on when we can execute the agreements

1:27:43and lock in the interest rate.

1:27:45And given the city's financial position and kind

1:27:49recent news and in our bond rating everything

1:27:51like that you know we have a term of an offer on the table.

1:27:55So I would humbly request to come back

1:27:58with a report on renewable diesel and kind

1:28:00of next steps for the city but not link it to the contract

1:28:05is mine and City Manager.

1:28:07Do you have a comment on that.

1:28:08Yes I think you will.

1:28:10I was actually just going to say that we can absolutely

1:28:12be provide that to certainly even through the demand

1:28:17quality committee back to the city council

1:28:18we'd be happy to do that.

1:28:20But we would really we would request that this financing be

1:28:24kept separate.

1:28:25And we as if you're directing us to bring you back

1:28:28a report that's we will happily do

1:28:31that because this is a goal that the council

1:28:34member is interested in.

1:28:35Is that.

1:28:36So we have a motion do I see a second.

1:28:40I'll second council member Gama seconds.

1:28:42Can I have a roll call vote, please.

1:28:46May finally, I may Potemkin to I can't remember a blessing.

The recycling truck purchase, pulled from consent, produced a question about how the city instructs its own consultants.

Motoyama's question: “I was wondering why biodiesel, for example, was left out as a consideration.”

Her evidence, with a caveat about method: “I did do a little bit of internet research, which is always a little dangerous. But I did [learn] that in Berkeley they had used the same procurement, [a] very similar report, but they also included biodiesel as an option.”

Her question about the brief: “are we not giving enough guidance to the procurement consultant to really impress upon them that we really are a green city?”

Her standard: “we have as high an expectation in terms of understanding what our options are as any other city” — naming Berkeley.

Her aim: “I would like to make sure that we are in the forefront on green issues as much as possible.”

Staff answered that biodiesel had been looked at, “and also, even more recently, renewable diesel, which is similar… but it runs a little bit cleaner.”

Will Provost, the operations and environmental services division manager, said the recycling fleet had used biodiesel from about 2008 to 2010 but switched back: it needed separate storage, some trucks needed costly repairs, and it cost more per unit. All the trucks in this purchase are compatible with biodiesel or renewable diesel, which could be adopted later in coordination with other departments without changing this procurement. The current trucks are 11 and 13 years old, beyond their replacement cycle.

Garth Schultz of R3 Consulting said electric collection trucks are “several years away” for a fleet this size: Palo Alto's single pilot truck had battery problems and further purchases were deferred, the cost is at least twice that of diesel plus charging infrastructure, rebates only partly offset it, and the added battery weight is a problem in hills. He put a practical application for El Cerrito five to ten years away.

Quinto moved approval. Motoyama asked that a report on renewable diesel come back; staff asked that it not be tied to the purchase because the financing offer had a time limit to lock in the interest rate, and the City Manager agreed to bring a report back, possibly through the Environmental Quality Committee. Motoyama seconded, and the purchase was approved.

Significant

A councilmember found that Berkeley's equivalent procurement report evaluated an option El Cerrito's did not — and asked whether the city briefs its consultants ambitiously enough. Staff said biodiesel had been tried in 2008–2010 and dropped, and that renewable diesel could be adopted later without changing this purchase.

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1:28:51I can't remember and then I can't remember

1:28:55ethnic I motion carries.

1:28:57Thank you.

1:28:58That's the last item on the concept calendar.

1:29:02Now we move to presentation.

1:29:05Our next presentation is environmental quality committee

1:29:08work plan can we have a staff report a committee report

1:29:18Hello.

1:29:19Good evening.

1:29:20Hi Nia.

1:29:21Good evening.

1:29:22Mayor Pro Tem quinto.

1:29:24Council members, staff, and members of the public.

1:29:27I'm happy to be here tonight with you to give you report

1:29:31of the activities Environmental Quality Committee

1:29:34during the past year and what our plans are for the upcoming

1:29:38year So I think as all of you probably

1:29:41know I'm Neeld said Zoey I'm the current chair

1:29:44of the Environmental Quality Committee or the QC

1:29:47as we refer to it.

1:29:48And let's see.

1:29:49I'm sharing the presentation from my own computer,

1:29:52you certainly can.

1:29:53If you would like I can chat on your behalf.

1:29:57And I can share it.

1:30:02Great.

1:30:02So you see is a really active and fun committee.

1:30:09And we were founded in two thousand eight

1:30:13led by council member abelson.

1:30:16And so we've been in operation for 12 years.

1:30:20And we're usually at or near our maximum capacity of 15 members.

1:30:25And so it's one of the committees

1:30:26that really attracts a lot of interest from the community

1:30:29and as you can imagine, with 15 members.

1:30:34We bring a wide diversity of backgrounds and expertise

1:30:38and issues that people are interested in championing,

1:30:43and we take our charge sort of broadly,

1:30:47we're interested in all environmental issues all things

1:30:50that touch on the environmental quality of rito

1:30:53from Hans boots on the ground activities

1:30:56to educational activities.

1:30:58As you'll see.

1:31:00And of course we'll probably you just heard from

1:31:04is our staff liaison.

1:31:06He's an enormous asset helps us keeps us on track

1:31:11and helps us accomplish all of the things

1:31:13that we are able to accomplish and we do lots of historically

1:31:17done lots of things in person as you see

1:31:20in the top photo but as no surprise to anybody

1:31:23during the past year, our activities.

1:31:26Have been online through Zoom or WebEx

1:31:29just like all the rest of you So let's see.

1:31:36So we do we work in a variety of different settings.

1:31:41We work indoors.

1:31:43We during the past year hosted several public meetings

1:31:47or workshops.

1:31:48So this was prior to the Kovic shutdown.

1:31:52We had a presentation from a coyote expert

1:31:57on living with Coyotes both protecting high O.D.

1:32:02and protecting ourselves and getting along harmoniously

1:32:05in this urban wildland interface that we're fortunate to have

1:32:08here in alfredo.

1:32:09We had a well attended presentation

1:32:11on the expanded food where ordinance

1:32:13and usually every year, we have several presentations

1:32:17that bring in experts in a variety of topics.

1:32:21We hosted a very popular person EV1 to one workshop in January

1:32:25and then an online version in December,

1:32:28which served to orient people who are interested in adopting

1:32:32electronic vehicles.

1:32:35To the vehicles themselves what their options are.

1:32:39Answering questions they might have

1:32:41and really trying to ease that conversion

1:32:44over electronic electric vehicles we co promoted

1:32:49a virtual National Drive Electric week to try promote

1:32:55electric vehicles and reduce greenhouse gas emissions reduce

1:32:59climate change and also a regular occurring workshop

1:33:02that we co-host or promote is the Bay rent efficient home

1:33:06workshop and pay rent is the Bay Area regional energy

1:33:10network, a consort of local governments

1:33:13that also try to ease the transition

1:33:17to electrification in residences businesses multimedia

1:33:22unit housing and of course, we also

1:33:26work outdoors where some of the most fun work that we do

1:33:29occurs and we do this in a variety of ways.

1:33:34During the cold shutdown.

1:33:36We postponed a lot of our act or activities during the summer.

1:33:40But then we were able to resume after the summer in a socially

1:33:43distanced and safe manner.

1:33:45And we host regular green team work parties where we remove we

1:33:50and other volunteers from the community

1:33:53remove trash from streets, parks, and especially

1:33:56important watersheds.

1:33:58So this doesn't flow off into the bay.

1:34:02We promoted the Coastal Cleanup month

1:34:05with self guided cleanups which were

1:34:08socially distanced and safe.

1:34:10This past year.

1:34:12We have regular broom poles in the hillside natural area.

1:34:16So French broom I think, as most of you probably know,

1:34:19is an invasive plant.

1:34:21And so we can remove this from the hillside natural area

1:34:25thereby protecting our native plants or native ecosystems

1:34:27and here is a how do you go qC member loading

1:34:33a pile of this broom that was previously pulled

1:34:36and then dried and then now put into this dumpster

1:34:39and taken away.

1:34:40And this is a really important activity beyond the removal

1:34:42of this invasive plant because it reduces the fuel load

1:34:45in hillside natural area so it's a really important aspect

1:34:49of vegetation management that keeps our communities safer

1:34:52from potential wildfires We also promoted this year as a bike

1:34:57to wherever day previous years.

1:34:59It's been a Bike to Work Day again,

1:35:02trying to get people out of their vehicles

1:35:05on reducing gringa greenhouse gas emissions.

1:35:07And then sadly, a number of our activities including some

1:35:12of our really cherished activities

1:35:13were canceled this past year.

1:35:16So we were unable to do the hillside festival

1:35:19and the Earth Day celebration in the ways

1:35:21that we have previously.

1:35:22And we're looking forward to the time

1:35:24when we're in a situation where we can meet up again, and have

1:35:29these series of in-person activities

1:35:31that our community really loves Oh, and here are green team

1:35:36events the February 1 past, but we

1:35:39have one coming up in coordination with earth

1:35:42Day on April 24.

1:35:44The location for that one will be Central

1:35:47Park down to San Pablo Avenue.

1:35:50So if you have an opportunity and are interested in helping

1:35:54us clean up this part of Israel please come join us 10 a.m.

1:35:59and you can the instructions for how to RSVP for that come out

1:36:04and our green happenings newsletter and then we have one

1:36:08a series of these that we've decided on locations that you

1:36:10can see here and one coming up in September,

1:36:13which may be a partnership with some groups in Oakland

1:36:17to do cleanups more broadly in our community

1:36:20in a larger sense.

1:36:21So we work indoors to work outdoors.

1:36:24And then we also work in the community for years now,

1:36:28we've promoted the sun shares program, which

1:36:31is a program that helps residents of Rito

1:36:35get rooftop solar installed in the home in our household

1:36:39did a couple of years ago through the sun shares program.

1:36:43It's discounted solar installation

1:36:44through trusted vetted vendors.

1:36:47So that's a really great program.

1:36:50We are always promoting m.S. deep green sort of opt up

1:36:54to 100%.

1:36:55And energy and during this past year

1:36:59i'm happy to say that we rank number

1:37:01one in Contra Costa County for opt ups

1:37:03to the 100% green energy.

1:37:05It's really quite an accomplishment.

1:37:07And then as you all know, we provide input on the San Pablo

1:37:12Avenue specific plant update environmental impact report

1:37:14and we're always interested in looking at the Climate

1:37:17Action Plan updating Climate Action Plan and then I think,

1:37:20as many of you also know you probably all saw this recently,

1:37:25we were ranked number two on the Contra Costa County climate

1:37:29leaders climate report card only behind Richman

1:37:33I think that's a real testimony to the commitment

1:37:37of this council to environmental issues

1:37:40and else Rito and the work that we do on the sea

1:37:43and really the deep interest in El Serino among our residents

1:37:46in environmental issues.

1:37:48I think all of us coordinated together

1:37:50have really managed to move the needle

1:37:53on combating climate change and reducing

1:37:58our greenhouse gas emissions.

1:37:59And I hope we can accelerate these activities in the future.

1:38:03So high priority for us.

1:38:05And then a new item that we tackled this year following

1:38:10of course, the protest about racial justice

1:38:15and racial injustice is turning our attention to social,

1:38:21environmental, and racial justice issues with sort

1:38:23of an eye towards, how can we direct our activities in a way

1:38:27that is attuned to the needs of our community

1:38:31that serves the most vulnerable and you know and make sure

1:38:36that we're seeing our work through social, environmental,

1:38:39and racial justice lens and so last July, we

1:38:43hosted a joint meeting with the human Relations Commission

1:38:46where we had AAA and important discussion about this.

1:38:48And we co-wrote and issued a statement that reaffirmed

1:38:52our commitment to environmental and racial justice on the sea

1:38:57also recently been screening tool

1:38:59to allow us to identify places in our larger community

1:39:04within and beyond el Serino that might benefit most

1:39:07from Environmental Act actions.

1:39:09So on the right hand side of the screen here,

1:39:12you can see two examples of these tools.

1:39:15There's the Cal Enviro screen tool,

1:39:17which uses a number of different indices

1:39:22to identify communities that are most

1:39:25impacted by environmental degradation and pollution.

1:39:29And then in the bottom right is another tool

1:39:31that we looked at this Center for Disease Control

1:39:35prevention's social vulnerable index that

1:39:38looks at a lot of factors that are related

1:39:43to poor health outcomes.

1:39:45Some of those might be related environmental degradation

1:39:48but others are related to access to health care

1:39:51socioeconomic status things like that.

1:39:53And so we're compiling information

1:39:55from these different tools to figure out where are the best

1:39:59places where we can make the most

1:40:01difference in targeting and our environmental activities.

1:40:04And so that's something we're really

1:40:05looking forward to deploying out into the real world

1:40:08in the coming year.

1:40:10And then Oh.

1:40:12And then one that we've come up with recently that we hope

1:40:16to see on our agenda in the coming months

1:40:20is an anti-racism an environmental Justice Training

1:40:25that will offer a workshop within one of our eco meetings

1:40:28similar to like the coyote workshop that we had before,

1:40:31where we have an expert in this issue come in

1:40:34and mediate a discussion and training for members

1:40:36of the OECD to see any members of the public

1:40:39and any of you who would like to attend.

1:40:41And so keep your eye out for that.

1:40:43Hopefully that will be coming in the coming months.

1:40:48And we have a variety of things.

1:40:49So that's sort of the retrospective

1:40:51for last year, things we're working on

1:40:53now and then looking forward.

1:40:54We have a whole slate of activities that I won't go

1:40:56through every one of these things because many of them

1:40:58are activities that I've already described to you

1:41:01that we've done in the past but I would like

1:41:04to highlight a couple of them.

1:41:06I haven't mentioned before.

1:41:08We have coming up on April 10 twenty fifth i

1:41:11believe in coordination with Earth Day

1:41:16a presentation by Doug Ptolemy who's

1:41:19a professor and entomologist at University of Delaware

1:41:22who's really a world expert in how we can change

1:41:28the landscaping in our backyards in our front yards

1:41:32to basically make them extensions of protected

1:41:38or preserved habitat.

1:41:40So how can we build native plants

1:41:42build up the native insects depend on them.

1:41:45Support bird populations.

1:41:48And really sort of change large swaths of our urban habitat

1:41:53by making these small changes at home.

1:41:55And this is co-sponsored with the urban forest committee

1:41:59and is being led by bring back the natives.

1:42:02And so I encourage you to look at that.

1:42:05That will be a really fun and exciting event.

1:42:10We're looking forward to implementation

1:42:12of the expanded food where ordinance which we helped

1:42:14develop and then Oh Yeah.

1:42:18And then one thing that I haven't mentioned here

1:42:20is, of course, as you all know, we have the new legislation

1:42:24from the state that mandates changes to our recycling

1:42:27and composting procedures.

1:42:29And so we're really interested in partnering with the city

1:42:32in helping to implement that get the word out to our residents

1:42:36on how to best do that and make this transition as

1:42:39painless as possible and then I think

1:42:43this is probably my left side.

1:42:45We have a number of other events that we'll

1:42:47be hosting that we've hosted in the past Again many of these

1:42:51that I've mentioned before.

1:42:52But I'll call out a couple that I haven't mentioned

1:42:55is we've previously helped host fix it clinic events where you

1:42:59can see here in this photo residents

1:43:02could prior to COVID ID bring in an appliance

1:43:06or some sort of tool or something that wasn't working.

1:43:09And pair up with somebody who has expertise a trainer

1:43:13and get those things repaired and so instead of throwing them

1:43:15in the garbage they're repaired and reused

1:43:18and extending the lifetime of a variety of different things

1:43:23in the household.

1:43:24We have a City Nature Challenge event coming up.

1:43:28This is now a global event sponsored by the california

1:43:32Academy of Sciences but it's a really fun one that I'm always

1:43:35a champion of because during the City Nature Challenge

1:43:40it's this year, I believe it is happening in I think

1:43:45May 30th is when it starts.

1:43:48But for several days, you can take your iNaturalist app

1:43:52on your phone, you can go you can

1:43:55record any sort of biodiversity in your surrounding plants,

1:43:59animals, fungi, and upload those observation

1:44:02pens to a naturalist and it helps scientists who

1:44:05study these organisms by showing them where and when they occur.

1:44:10And it also is an amazing tool for teaching

1:44:12people and learning yourself about the organisms around.

1:44:16If you've ever wondered what kind of mushroom

1:44:18is that that i see or what kind of plant is this,

1:44:22you can use this.

1:44:24I naturals platform to identify just

1:44:25take a picture and upload it, and it will identify it for you

1:44:28and the city Nature Challenge is a friendly competition

1:44:31to try and get as many of those types of observation shins.

1:44:35During this weeklong period and so that's a lot of fun.

1:44:38And that's great for youths who are

1:44:43interested going out and spending some time outdoors.

1:44:46And then finally, we have this new event that we're

1:44:50coast sponsoring the Green home tour where this is gonna

1:44:53be occurring in two successive sundaes in June June 6

1:44:57and 13th and these are virtual tours of homes of residents

1:45:01in reno and in our surrounding areas

1:45:04where they've been able to completely

1:45:06electrify their homes, they're completely off fossil fuels.

1:45:10And so these virtual tours allow anybody who participates

1:45:14to go through and see the modifications that have been

1:45:17made to the home to hear the process experienced

1:45:21by the homeowners hopefully acting as a bit of a catalyst

1:45:25for other people who are interested in making these same

1:45:27changes to their homes.

1:45:28And with that, I'd like to thank so as you've

1:45:31seen you know we do a lot.

1:45:33We are a volunteer force of just over a dozen people.

1:45:37But we're all over the place alfredo really active

1:45:40doing lots of things.

1:45:42And we wouldn't be able to accomplish all these tasks,

1:45:45of course, without the wonderful support that City Council

1:45:48that you all have provided with us.

1:45:50Provided to us through the years.

1:45:52And so I thank you for your time.

1:45:54Thank you for that support.

1:45:58Thank you, Neil incredible presents

1:46:00and are there any comments or questions

1:46:03from our city council members.

1:46:05I have a comment.

1:46:06Mayor Pro Tem Thank you Dr. Sissy.

1:46:10I didn't recognize you It's been a while yet.

1:46:16But I want residents to know how grateful I am to have

1:46:21Neal part of our community.

1:46:23He's a neighbor that lives on top of a hill here.

1:46:28And and represents the North side,

1:46:31and he's part of the Sierra Club West counting group.

1:46:35So what.

1:46:36No And everything that you do with the Sierra Club

1:46:40goes hand in hand with what you do with equal say so.

1:46:45You are part of the new blood that we

1:46:48have that equals t So thank you for your contribution.

1:46:52And I look forward to seeing you in person Coats COVID.

1:46:56One time.

1:46:57Hopefully.

1:46:58Thanks so much.

1:46:59Thank you.

1:47:00A member Rudnick thank you Neal.

1:47:03That was a fantastic presentation.

1:47:05It really sets a very high standard

1:47:08for all the other boards and commissions in the city.

1:47:12You guys are doing.

1:47:14So much.

1:47:15And I'm completely impressed.

1:47:17I'm the Osorio board.

1:47:18Our board director member for recycle more, which

1:47:22is our regional Integrated Waste Management authority and we're

1:47:26really closely developing thirteen eighty 3,

1:47:29which is the composting Mandy would be really fantastic if we

1:47:33could get somehow a synergy between the policy that's being

1:47:38developed for the city and with our regional partners

1:47:42and it'd be fantastic to get on board because the

1:47:44when you briefly covered the presentation.

1:47:47But for the public are watching that soon

1:47:49it's going to be mandate that organics are removed

1:47:53from your typical waste stream and are

1:47:55going to be the mandate to compost so thank you so much.

1:48:00The presentation.

1:48:01Yeah, thanks so that's a great point.

1:48:03I think one of the big challenges

1:48:05is going to be spreading the word

1:48:07and getting the residents of El Serino and state wide really

1:48:11to change their practices and adopt this as sort

1:48:14of a normal course of action.

1:48:16And so that's something we can definitely help out with.

1:48:20We have within QC we have a finely honed

1:48:23mechanism for disseminating information

1:48:25about events or policies.

1:48:28And so we're happy to help do that for this issue as well.

1:48:35Thank you again Neal council member Abel I'd

1:48:48like to Thank you, Neil for that great report.

1:48:52I saw in it a number of really interesting ideas and ways

1:48:57that take us one step further.

1:49:00You see.

1:49:02So i all I can say is right on.

1:49:07And keep it going.

1:49:09Great, thank.

1:49:10Thanks.

1:49:11Council member cNN thank you so much for getting us started.

1:49:15All those years ago.

1:49:17You're welcome coughing my fear.

1:49:22Do you have any comments.

1:49:24I do.

1:49:25Just a quick question as spending.

1:49:27What is the status of the food where ordinance yes.

1:49:31Yes I mean.

1:49:33So we reviewed the food ordinance within the EU sea

1:49:37and provided comments back to council.

1:49:40But I think with economic downturn associated

1:49:42WITH THE COVE it shut down you know it was just I think too

1:49:49difficult a time to put an extra burden

1:49:51on top of our local businesses, especially

1:49:54our small businesses.

1:49:56And so on.

1:49:57So I'm not I don't know what the timeline is moving forward.

1:50:00I'm not sure.

1:50:02If Aaron near FDLE knows Karen and I have talked about this.

1:50:06It's kind of happened before the end of the year.

1:50:09Like Karen that is what we.

1:50:11Well i was going to say Your Honor

1:50:13you have been the one who has certainly been

1:50:16leading this charge as well.

1:50:17And I've been working with staff and I

1:50:19agree with Neil we've been we've just been trying to make sure

1:50:23that we're not overburdened our small businesses that has set

1:50:26certainly been a consideration.

1:50:27But that doesn't mean that we don't we don't want

1:50:31to continue with that value.

1:50:32So our hope is to be able to at least pass this legislation

1:50:35by the end of the year, and we can consider different phasing

1:50:39for implementation perhaps, if that

1:50:41is depending on where we are.

1:50:43But definitely something that we would

1:50:44like to be able to do this year you

1:50:47know we're really looking forward to seeing that

1:50:49go forward.

1:50:50Yes.

1:50:50Thank you for that.

1:50:51I was going to ask about that.

1:50:53Thank you for your progress on that.

1:50:54I'm the lease to this commission and I'm

1:50:57very proud of then they always do the best the most

1:51:00it's always full.

1:51:02There's never an empty seat, and it's part of the reason

1:51:06is so famous for our environmental quality

1:51:08and our activities in the community in our county

1:51:11it's just do incredible stuff.

1:51:13So I thank you for the food where progress.

1:51:15I also want to thank you for any climate update

1:51:18that Janet Abel sent in Tessa Rudnick.

1:51:21We'll be dealing with coming up here.

1:51:24That's critically important.

1:51:26I also want.

1:51:28Thank you for the new emphasis you have on equity

1:51:32and environment justice because another thing

1:51:35that I mentioned when I was sworn in as mayor is I really

1:51:38and I've talked to our city manager about this

1:51:41and Gabe Pinto is on a new Commission for equity.

1:51:45We need to have in our analysis on our agendas

1:51:49every item that we consider social and racial equity.

1:51:54So that every item that we deal with in our city council

1:51:59deals with social or racial equity.

1:52:03That's something that i think it's timely.

1:52:06Our city manager's been supportive of that.

1:52:09And that's something I'd like to send back to council member

1:52:13much of Jarmon her Committee on Human Relations

1:52:16to figure out how we get there.

1:52:18What are the considerations we have when council on staff

1:52:21thinks of this.

1:52:22So Enviro mental justice is that the key and the center

1:52:25point of this.

1:52:26I want to thank you very much for this move forward.

1:52:29It's a productive year there are things we can do that.

1:52:33Don't impact our budget.

1:52:34That's one of them.

1:52:36Thank Thank you, Neil.

1:52:38Really too much for your support.

The Environmental Quality Committee chair presented a year's work and the year ahead.

Her description: “a really active and fun” committee, founded in 2008 under Councilmember Abelson and “usually at or near our maximum capacity of 15 members.”

On electric vehicles: the committee answers residents' questions about the cars themselves, “really trying to ease that conversion,” and co-promoted a virtual National Drive Electric Week.

On homes: a recurring BayREN efficient home workshop — “the Bay Area Regional Energy Network, a consort[ium] of local governments that also try to ease the transition to electrification in residences, businesses [and] multi[family] housing.”

Outdoor work — “some of the most fun work that we do” — was “postponed” during the shutdown and resumed “after the summer” in distanced form.

Ahead: an Earth Day presentation by an entomologist on “how we can change the landscaping in our backyards [and] front yards,” plus training for committee members and the public.

She reported that El Cerrito ranked first in Contra Costa County for opt-ups to MCE's 100% renewable Deep Green service and second, behind Richmond, on the county climate leaders' report card, and that the committee had turned to environmental and racial justice, including a joint statement with the Human Relations Commission and screening tools to find the communities most affected by pollution.

Then Rudnick connected it to a state mandate arriving shortly.

Her position: board member for RecycleMore, the regional waste authority, then “developing” the response to SB 1383 — “the composting” mandate.

What it requires: “it's going to be mandate[d] that organics are removed from your typical waste stream.”

Her ask: “if we could get somehow a synergy between the policy that's being developed for the city and with our regional partners.”

The chair's reply named the difficulty: “one of the big challenges is going to be spreading the word and getting the residents of El Cerrito, and statewide, really to change their” habits.

The Mayor asked about the food ware ordinance; the chair said it had been held back to avoid burdening small businesses during the shutdown, and the City Manager hoped to pass it by the end of the year, perhaps with phased implementation. The Mayor, the committee's liaison, said it is “always full… there's never an empty seat,” and asked that every agenda item carry a social and racial equity analysis, which he wanted Motoyama to take to the Human Relations Commission.

Significant

SB 1383 will require organics to be removed from the waste stream statewide, and the city's policy is being written separately from its regional waste authority's. A councilmember who sits on both asks for them to be aligned. The chair says “one of the big challenges” will be “spreading the word and getting the residents of El Cerrito, and statewide, really to change their practices.”

18 The five year forecast captions 1996–2203

1:52:41Thank you very much carry on.

1:52:48Thank you.

1:52:49There are no public hearings in this city council meeting.

1:52:54So I'd like to move to public policy

1:52:57matters and no exceptions.

1:53:00A is the general fund long term financial forecast budget study

1:53:04session and can we have a staff report on this, please

1:53:15and Karen are in your honor.

1:53:17Just one moment.

1:53:19I'm writing the PowerPoint all right writes thank you so much.

1:53:44Again once again, good evening city

1:53:47council mayor and city council Karen pink the city manager.

1:53:51And this is a study session to discuss

1:53:54the general fund long term five year forecast and a budget.

1:53:59A budget discussion marker side of the finance director

1:54:02is here with me and we are we're going to tag team

1:54:06a little bit on this.

1:54:08So please feel free to stop us if you have any questions.

1:54:12We're going to go over.

1:54:13First kind of the review of the five year

1:54:18forecast what the assumptions are that we included

1:54:21within that forecast just a couple of alternate scenarios

1:54:25that we have also looked at.

1:54:27As far as what we're able to present

1:54:31to you in this forecast.

1:54:33And then open it up for questions or discussion.

1:54:37Let's jump in.

1:54:39So first and foremost, we just wanted to share

1:54:42that the five year forecast.

1:54:44This is meant to be our high level

1:54:46planning tool that is used to inform the budget development.

1:54:49So it's not the budget, we do this

1:54:52and we update this at least yearly we update it internally,

1:54:55but we also update it yearly in order to try to have that

1:55:00again, just as the name implies, a forecast as to what

1:55:04might be in the future.

1:55:05This is going to be the starting point for us

1:55:08for our expenditures that we can use to start

1:55:11to develop the city's budget.

1:55:13And if you recall, we this is the same procedure

1:55:16that we did last year and early 2020 we prepared this forecast.

1:55:21And we provided it to the city council.

1:55:24I believe in February and as you may remember those of you who

1:55:28are on the council at that time that is the results of some

1:55:31of those discussions with respect To the forecast

1:55:34was that you directed the staff to this

1:55:38was pre pandemic to do the initial $2 million

1:55:41in budget reductions.

1:55:42So this is, again, the starting point for that conversation.

1:55:45It allows staff to have direction

1:55:47to go back to sharpen our pencil and

1:55:49you're going to hear me say that probably more than once

1:55:52tonight.

1:55:52As far as how we're developing the budget

1:55:55and what we need to consider.

1:55:57So I do want to emphasize that in again, this is there's

1:56:02a lot of there's a lot of things that have been incorporated

1:56:05into this discussion that you have already also seen

1:56:08in various discussions and also in the state auditor's report

1:56:12the city has a comprehend financial policy.

1:56:15And that is developed that has been

1:56:17developed in conjunction with the Fab

1:56:19the fab reviews annually.

1:56:21They were not able to review last year.

1:56:24I think we're overdue because I think

1:56:27because pandemic and some of the meetings

1:56:29weren't able to be held.

1:56:30So I know that this is going to be on likely on the fabs

1:56:34future work plan.

1:56:36But this is something that is developed

1:56:38and approved by the City Council on last time it was approved.

1:56:42Any changes to the was approved 2019 and in 2019

1:56:46that Copperhead financial policy also

1:56:49included the established bit of an emergency

1:56:52and disaster recovery fund.

1:56:54In addition to a minimum goal of 10%

1:56:58of projected General fund operating expenditures

1:57:00in each fiscal year.

1:57:02So and the city has not achieved that minimum goal

1:57:06in many years.

1:57:07And in fact, looking back the closest we've been

1:57:11was back in 2012 so this has been a series of years

1:57:15that we have not met this goal a series of.

1:57:18And again, various decisions that

1:57:20were made various actions that were taken

1:57:23and the council did indeed take that as an action back

1:57:27during the first recession in Two thousand eight

1:57:30through two thousand eleven those years, including the loss

1:57:34of redevelopment council did take that action

1:57:37in order to begin to draw down reserve in order

1:57:41to maintain services.

1:57:42And again, that has not been recovered.

1:57:45And so given where we're at.

1:57:48This is something that staff wants to make sure

1:57:50that the council is focused on from our perspective,

1:57:53that is what we're focusing on.

1:57:55And the direction we would like to seek from you tonight

1:57:59is that we are indeed moving in that correct direction.

1:58:03So the general assumptions and I apologize for the wordy slide,

1:58:06I usually don't like to put a lot of words on slides,

1:58:10but these are a lot of issues that we outline in the agenda

1:58:13Bill and so I just wanted to make some notes so that the 20

1:58:171920 actuals and The COVID 19 projections from this current

1:58:22fiscal year form our base line.

1:58:25We ended the fiscal year with a general fund excuse me total

1:58:30fund balance of a negative 1 ten thousand dollars while was much

1:58:34better than the forecast of perhaps the million

1:58:37dollar deficit a couple of million deficit

1:58:39that we were worried about that, you

1:58:42know that doesn't mean that we're that it's a good thing.

1:58:46It's still a negative fund balance as we've brought that

1:58:48to you several times over the past several months

1:58:51that we've reviewed both the revenue expenditures

1:58:54projections based on trends and performance

1:58:56and made modifications and we incorporate the modifications

1:59:00as well you passed on February 16th with the mid-year budget.

1:59:04So the additional assumptions that we have in this forecast

1:59:09include not any.

1:59:11No new additional positions.

1:59:12So we're not creating any new positions

1:59:15in the current vacancies would remain for the most part,

1:59:19there would be no This also assumes no cost of living

1:59:22adjustment for all management confidential staff

1:59:25currently the management confidential staff are not

1:59:28only have not only received cola but they are also working on 26

1:59:33furlough days, we are including the status in this forecast,

1:59:38we are anticipating there could be a moderate,

1:59:42you know the recession will continue that recovery will

1:59:46begin perhaps mid next year.

1:59:48Again this is completely dependent upon how

1:59:51COVID 19 goes, how we're able to recover.

1:59:55How the economy in general is able to recover.

1:59:58How we progress through the tiers but even again,

2:00:01we have to be super cautious about that.

2:00:04And this a lot of the assumptions that we're making

2:00:07are really truly our best with the best information

2:00:10we have right now recognizing we are still in an incredibly

2:00:13volatile situation.

2:00:14And I will go over some and Mark and I will go over

2:00:18some of the assumptions with the expenditures revenues

2:00:21in more detail in just a moment We are also making

2:00:25the assumptions that city is going to meet all of its debt

2:00:29obligations without default, including our train our

2:00:32we would like to restore our pre 2016 bond

2:00:35ratings by next year at the latest for I think,

2:00:39obvious reasons.

2:00:40But certainly assist us in many ways.

2:00:44If nothing else This is something that helps alleviate

2:00:47a lot of concerns, including of the state

2:00:49auditors at the excuse me The forecast also

2:00:56includes writing off the general fund advance

2:01:00to the city's redevelopment agency

2:01:02that's one point three to $5 million.

2:01:05So This is a claim this, advance to the general fund

2:01:10was a were made to repay a claim against the city

2:01:14by the state, California Department of Finance

2:01:16and this is in respect to the dissolution

2:01:20of the Redevelopment Agency.

2:01:23This claim was settled in 2018 which means that the state

2:01:27told us we owed this money.

2:01:30We disputed that we owed that money.

2:01:32However when we engaged in a settlement with them.

2:01:35We did pay the money, but we entered a lawsuit to try

2:01:39to recover the money back.

2:01:41So the money is paid however on our books.

2:01:45It is hole it has been held as a non spend full receivable,

2:01:51and that means that because it's there that has been included

2:01:55as part of our on spendable reserve balance

2:01:58that has been essentially out there against.

2:02:02The court has decided as of last week

2:02:05that they have denied our appeal.

2:02:07And so we at this point, we don't have any intention

2:02:12of moving further.

2:02:14Again we do not owe one point $3 million in cash.

2:02:18However that one point $3 million

2:02:20does need to be written off as a general fund expense what

2:02:25that means is it would have to be deducted from our fund

2:02:28balance and it is an accounting journal entry in order

2:02:32to take this off of our books.

2:02:35I know that that can seem complicated to the accountants

2:02:37out there you you understand more than you even as far as

2:02:42how the accounting works with that.

2:02:44And Mark, I don't know if you have

2:02:46any if you'd like to jump in there to make

2:02:49any clarity out of that.

2:02:51But essentially, what this means is

2:02:52that we had tried to recover.

2:02:54One point $3 million.

2:02:55If we had we could add that to our fund balance.

2:02:58But because we can't we are going to write

2:03:01it off our fund balance.

2:03:03Any additional thoughts on that.

2:03:05I think you nailed it It's a dual entry

2:03:08into the transaction.

2:03:10There is no movement of cash.

2:03:13It just reduces our receivables by the corresponding amount

2:03:16and as a consequence, the fund balance, which is the net.

2:03:20But declines by that to 5 with no impact on cash,

2:03:24which we have ever had.

2:03:26We got the money.

2:03:27Cash would gone up and the fund balance would remain the same.

2:03:31That's about all that's different Thanks

2:03:35on the additional assumptions at this point.

2:03:38And this is also certainly for further discussion.

2:03:42And as I'm sure that the public will has engaged already

2:03:45and we'll continue to engage in discussion is at this point,

2:03:48we have assumed no changes to service

2:03:50delivery in this forecast.

The budget study session opened with the assumptions behind the forecast.

The City Manager recalled that the city's financial policy, last amended in 2019, sets a minimum reserve of 10% of projected general fund operating expenditures, and that “the city has not achieved that minimum goal in many years” — the closest was 2012. The Council had drawn down reserves to maintain services during the 2008–2011 recession and the loss of redevelopment.

Its baseline: “the 2019-20 actuals and the COVID-19 projections from this current fiscal year form our baseline.”

Its purpose, stated as a request: “the direction we would like to seek from you tonight is that we are indeed moving in that correct direction.”

The starting point: the fiscal year had ended better than the deficit of a couple of million dollars staff had feared, but “It's still a negative fund balance.” The forecast assumes no new positions, current vacancies left mostly unfilled, and every debt obligation met; staff said “we would like to restore our pre 2016 bond” ratings by next year at the latest.

It also writes off about $1.3 million the general fund had advanced to pay the state Department of Finance's claim over the dissolution of the Redevelopment Agency. The city paid under a 2018 settlement and sued to get the money back; the court had denied its appeal the week before, and the city would not go further. “Again we do not owe one point $3 million in cash”: the write-off is an accounting entry that lowers the fund balance with no movement of cash.

One assumption carries most of the weight: “at this point, we have assumed no changes to service delivery in this forecast.”

Significant

The forecast assumes no changes to service delivery: it is the baseline before any reductions. The 10% minimum reserve in the city's own financial policy had not been met in many years.

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2:03:53The federal relief money.

2:03:54This has been a hot topic, all of us.

2:03:58And I was just on a phone call i'm sorry a video call whatever

2:04:03you call those these days with the League of California Cities

2:04:06and the National League of Cities

2:04:07discussing the federal relief bill this is

2:04:10an unprecedented direct payment by the federal government

2:04:14is all nineteen thousand cities in the United States.

2:04:19This has not been done before.

2:04:21Our Alex mission at this point is based on our population

2:04:26and right now, again this could change.

2:04:29This is the current.

2:04:31This is the current allocation that we have

2:04:34been given would be $8 million.

2:04:36It would be paid over two years two annual installments

2:04:40and so I just want to make kind of another note about that.

2:04:45First the first and foremost, this is This

2:04:48is a wonderful relief certainly to cities not just ours,

2:04:51but to cities across the country.

2:04:53What it means for us, though still

2:04:56is that according to the call according to Cal cities

2:04:59according to the National League of Cities

2:05:02there are still regulations that are being worked out

2:05:06with the United States Treasury who will be disseminating

2:05:08the money to the state it needs to go

2:05:11to the state within 60 days.

2:05:13And then the state is required to disseminate it to the cities

2:05:17within an additional 30 days.

2:05:19So we do expect this fiscal year.

2:05:22However it is more flexible in its use

2:05:24than the CARES Act funding was it is meant

2:05:29to stabilize local governments.

2:05:31It can be used for things like lost revenue

2:05:35There was there's a series of appropriate spending

2:05:39that can be used on it doesn't have

2:05:42to be simply COVID related reimbursable

2:05:44expenses like the Carers ACT.

2:05:46However there are a few guardrails on it.

2:05:49It cannot be used for pension liability.

2:05:52It cannot be used for the unfunded pension liability.

2:05:55So I know that there were some questions before about

2:05:59whether or not we could use some relief

2:06:00money to open a Section 115 trust that

2:06:03does not appear to be possible.

2:06:05Again we are still waiting on some of the regular sessions.

2:06:08But at this point, we're going to assume that that's

2:06:11not going to be used.

2:06:13It does need to be spent by the year 2020,

2:06:17for the end of December 2020 for we will have to certify

2:06:20what the funds are used for.

2:06:23And so this is, again, we will be

2:06:25able to bring this back to you.

2:06:27We are verifying that they can be used

2:06:29again, for things like lost revenue

2:06:31being to replenish reserves.

2:06:33A lot of cities have had to use reserves over time.

2:06:36And so this wouldn't be necessarily

2:06:38we wouldn't be the only people looking

2:06:41to try to replenish our own reserves

2:06:43or to try to be able to work with our revenues.

2:06:48That way.

2:06:49But that'll still be determined.

2:06:51So and it goes back to the fiscal year

2:06:53before the pandemic.

2:06:55That that is sort of our baseline losses

2:06:57that we would be looking at.

2:06:59And we're looking at least 2 million

2:07:03worth of losses each year since.

2:07:05And so that is certainly something that

2:07:08is like i'd very much welcomed.

2:07:11But we are still needing to clarify with the US Treasury

2:07:16with the state all of the requirements behind how we

2:07:20how we certify that many.

2:07:22And so in this assumption.

2:07:24However we did include.

2:07:26We didn't include on any sort of specific line item,

2:07:30we just kind of put it at the bottom of the chart

2:07:33as you've seen in your package.

2:07:34And as I'll show in a moment.

2:07:36But that it definitely does add to our revenues.

2:07:38And so we will be able to we will

2:07:40be able to work that into we have

2:07:42worked that into the forecast.

2:07:44So that we know that's coming.

2:07:46And again, it's over two years.

2:07:48So we're assuming four point $8 million.

2:07:52So two point $4 million each year

2:07:55going on to revenue assumptions.

2:07:58And I'll Oh and I'll also ask if he wants to jump in on This is,

2:08:04again, kind outlined in detail in the bill,

2:08:07but the sales tax projections and the property tax

2:08:10projections are based forecasts that we

2:08:12are developed by HDL company.

2:08:15They are sales tax and property tax consultants.

2:08:18We work with them closely and they have prepared

2:08:23all of these projections with respect to the sales

2:08:26tax and property tax.

2:08:28The next few years.

2:08:29So you know again This is for property tax, sales tax

2:08:33and vehicle licensing fees those collectively

2:08:36represent about half of our general fund revenues.

2:08:40We experienced a taxable value increase of about six

2:08:43point six for property taxes, which

2:08:46was above the county average.

2:08:48However we do know that next year,

2:08:51the state has already instructed the counties

2:08:53to increase property taxes by only one as opposed to 2%.

2:08:58So this has been factored into that structure.

2:09:01You know based on their numbers they are expected

2:09:05to grow at about a 5% rate.

2:09:07And they also expect that the past few quarters sales

2:09:11tax gains in county pool receipts that were

2:09:13generated by online shopping.

2:09:15So for everyone who ordered from Amazon and other deliveries

2:09:19to your houses that certainly has been helpful for us.

2:09:25Statewide however in this kind of goes to the recession

2:09:28conversation HDL doesn't anticipate

2:09:31that we're gonna have a significant recovery

2:09:33until about 2020 to.

2:09:35So it depends, of course, on all sorts of factors, including

2:09:39the pandemic but also are our sales

2:09:42tax base some recovery will likely be a shift

2:09:45back to non-taxable services.

2:09:47So full recovery could look different from

2:09:51after the pandemic them before.

2:09:53So this is just something that we need to make sure that we're

2:09:56keeping a close eye on it.

2:09:58We're working closely with our consultants on this matter

2:10:02and in updating accordingly real property transfer tax.

2:10:09We have budgeted for two point six million

2:10:12in this fiscal year.

2:10:14And we've already that target, which is wonderful.

2:10:16This also is something we need to make sure

2:10:19that we're keeping a very close eye

2:10:21on the current housing market.

2:10:24You know we're looking we could possibly get anywhere over 3

2:10:28to $5 million this year if the market

2:10:31holds which again, is all subject to change

2:10:35and volatility.

2:10:36So we're not increasing this budget at this point.

2:10:39However we're making an assumption

2:10:40of about a $3 million flat rate over the next five years.

2:10:45Again this could also shift based on the market

2:10:49and a lot of this is because of the median home

2:10:52selling price in Eldorado has hit over $1 million.

2:10:56So what's referred to as a million dollar city

2:11:00So even if there's maybe some less

2:11:03inventory the prices have been going higher because of demand.

2:11:06And so that has certainly been benefiting us.

2:11:09And we appreciate that, of course

2:11:11but we do need to make sure that we're

2:11:14keeping a close eye on it.

2:11:16And this has absolutely been a huge part of our recovery

2:11:19and will continue to be a huge part of our recovery.

2:11:24Other taxes we're anticipating about an annual growth of 2%

2:11:27because right now inflation is just not happening.

2:11:31And we're also anticipating that close to a 3% increase

2:11:36in total revenues over the 1920 actual revenues just again,

2:11:42based on CPI and based on the trends

2:11:45that we have noted department revenues the 3% increase

2:11:49generally speaking is because, as you all know,

2:11:52we are in got contract with all of our bargaining units

2:11:55except for the management confidential group.

2:11:57So we do have to assume that those increases will

2:12:00happen as of July 1 next year.

2:12:03And then again, revenue assumptions

2:12:05I know that this has been asked about by several of you.

2:12:10And by several residents at this point,

2:12:12I am certainly not recommending any new taxes anything to go

2:12:15on the ballot at this point.

2:12:17And I am also not anticipating any significant revenues.

2:12:21We know there will be developments that

2:12:23will go online sometime next year

2:12:25and the year after we know that there are,

2:12:29for example, our new cannabis businesses that

2:12:31have not opened yet.

2:12:33They are slated to open.

2:12:34Maybe at the end of this fiscal year next fiscal year.

2:12:38Those are all things in the hopper

2:12:41but I am not including in this revenue

2:12:43because I do not believe it would be prudent to do so

2:12:46until we actually have receipts and we can start to see trends

2:12:50So any additional thoughts on revenues

2:12:52before I expenditures I would just add that when taking

2:12:57the long view thing that's important not to lose sight

2:13:01of the woods for the trees and as Karen

2:13:04pointed out sales taxes, property taxes real property

2:13:07transfer taxes and the vehicle licensing fee is also

2:13:12property tax constitute about 70% of general fund revenues.

2:13:17So what does that mean for us, it

2:13:20means that when we make these forecasts based on trends

2:13:23we seek the assistance of experts in this field

2:13:26primarily HDL and company and HDL has a pretty deep data

2:13:30base of historical taxes within the city boundary

2:13:36that they use.

2:13:36They have a model that they share with us.

2:13:39And that's how they come up with the forecast

2:13:42for 70% of general fund revenues, which

2:13:44is significant to be amount of revenues.

2:13:47That's being forecasted with the assistance of Clinton policies.

2:13:51And by experts in those fields, and even has moves over

2:13:55to the expenditure assumptions.

2:13:57I might just point out to you.

2:14:00The same way in 75% of general fund expenses

2:14:03are staffing related.

2:14:04Right.

2:14:05So these are pretty much governed by represented units

2:14:09you have just 29 non represented people out

2:14:12of a total of four seventy fTD the remaining Hardin

2:14:1740 people folks are represented by one bug or another.

2:14:21And those define exactly how that costs books

2:14:26in the upcoming it's so 75% of general fund expenses

2:14:29are staffing connected staffing related.

2:14:31So that's the big, big change tens of

2:14:34and I thought i just mention that because it's really easy

2:14:37to get lost in the detail as we go through these slides

2:14:41or do you go to Great.

2:14:44Thanks Mike so in within the personnel costs,

2:14:47which is on the slide before you as indicated.

2:14:50These are the wages that we have assumed the personnel costs are

2:14:54effective as of this next fiscal year assumes a 3% wage growth.

2:14:59Again this is what is included in the M.O. use retirement you

2:15:04all saw the presentation from NHK advisors,

2:15:07our contribution are going to continue to rise

2:15:11and calipers discount rate dropping

2:15:13from six points up to 7% will impact the payments

2:15:19that we make medical and dental work we're budgeting

2:15:24for 3% annual increase and again, the that will continue

2:15:29to rise at this point, we are not planning

2:15:33for a prefunding retirement section 115

2:15:36trust liability at this point.

2:15:38Again we don't believe that we'll be able to use

2:15:41any relief money to do that.

2:15:43So if there are if there is going to be seed money in order

2:15:48to try to put aside for such things

2:15:51we would look to try to get to our fund balance first

2:15:54so that we can then continue to what we would continue to do

The federal relief was described as unprecedented, and its constraints spelled out.

Her framing: “this is an unprecedented direct payment by the federal government [to] all nineteen thousand cities in the United States.”

She had been on a call with “the League of California Cities and the National League of Cities discussing the federal relief bill” — the rules were still being worked out nationally.

The current allocation was $8 million, paid in two annual installments; the forecast assumed $4.8 million, $2.4 million a year. The money is more flexible than the CARES Act and can replace lost revenue, but cannot be used for pension liabilities, including a Section 115 trust.

Property tax, sales tax and vehicle licensing fees “collectively represent about half of our general fund revenues.”

The city had seen “a taxable value increase of about six point six” percent for property taxes, “which was above the county average.”

But the next year is constrained: “the state has already instructed the counties to increase property taxes by only one” percent “as opposed to 2%.”

And a pandemic effect that helped: “sales tax gains in county pool receipts that were generated by online shopping… for everyone who ordered from Amazon and other deliveries to your houses, that certainly has been helpful for us.”

Real property transfer tax was budgeted at $2.6 million and had already reached that, with the median home price over $1 million; the forecast holds it at about $3 million a year. The City Manager said she was not recommending any new taxes and was not counting revenue from new developments or the cannabis businesses until receipts arrive. The finance director said these tax sources make up about 70% of general fund revenue, and staffing about 75% of expenses.

What it may not do: the city was “not planning for a prefunding retirement Section 115 trust liability at this point” because “we don't believe that we'll be able to use any relief money to do that.”

The sequencing that follows: “if there is going to be seed money in order to try to put aside for such things, we would look to try to get to our fund balance first.”

Meanwhile the city would “continue to make those monthly payments as we do right now.”

Medical and dental were budgeted at “a 3% annual increase.”

Significant

Staff put rebuilding the fund balance ahead of prefunding pensions — partly because federal relief cannot be used for pensions at all. The Section 115 trust is directed three months later and funded “by cuts” rather than from reserves.

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2:15:58is make those monthly payments as we do right now.

2:16:01And again benefit growth is about a 3%

2:16:04based on the 10 year cPI trend that over the Bay Area

2:16:09the Bay Area CPI that we look at.

2:16:12As far as or as far as our wages and the general area

2:16:17CPI over time, this has been this has certainly

2:16:21been something that we have focused

2:16:24on you know that we have filled the vacancies

2:16:27in the fire department.

2:16:29So we expect the overtime in the fire department

2:16:32to be cut essentially in half from previous years,

2:16:36which is a good thing.

2:16:38The O E S which is, as you know, the office of emergency

2:16:43services because we have an O e s truck in our fleet

2:16:46and we work with the California Department

2:16:49California Office of Emergency Services which Oh yes

2:16:52stands for.

2:16:54We work with the state in order to be deploy to various fires

2:16:58and obviously, as you know, the fire season

2:17:01has just gotten increased.

2:17:02And we have been sending a lot of our folks

2:17:05out doing some amazing work.

2:17:08We are reimbursed for all of those costs

2:17:11and all of those overtime and we track that separately.

2:17:16And so we're expecting a minimum five K of five thousand

2:17:21this year it actually went up to eight fifty

2:17:25thousand dollars so it's totally dependent on the fire season.

2:17:29However we have put a placeholder in there

2:17:31for five thousand dollars.

2:17:33Knowing that any increase in expenses for the Oh yes

2:17:36will be offset completely by revenues

2:17:38that we will get back from the state,

2:17:41and then the Police Department.

2:17:43We also expect to have about a half a million dollars

2:17:46over time.

2:17:47There have been reductions in the police department

2:17:50as in vacancies that are continuing

2:17:52and of positions that have been eliminated.

2:17:54And so we will just have an expectation

2:17:57of about five thousand of police department overtime.

2:18:00So generally speaking, that is what we will expect for all

2:18:04of public safety of overtime in this assumption

2:18:08And then again, this is going to be a blend of the one time cost

2:18:13reductions, which are the furloughs that have been

2:18:15implemented non-public safety staff and ongoing reductions

2:18:18include position eliminations deferrals of colas

2:18:22and maybe perhaps increased employee contributions.

2:18:25This is all subject to be discussed further.

2:18:28But at this point, we are continuing this best status.

2:18:33For non personnel costs again, we're

2:18:36using the 10 the Bay Area year CPI 3% expense growth

2:18:41for utilities REPAIRS MAINTENANCE PROFESSIONAL

2:18:44services and other contracts.

2:18:47You know as pointed out personal costs are about 70 5

2:18:52of our general fund, which means that these are about 25%

2:18:56of our general fund and a lot of them

2:18:59are things like contracts or things that would be we

2:19:03need to do that.

2:19:05We don't do on our own dispatch Animal

2:19:08Services i.T. maintenance and soft

2:19:10where things of that nature.

2:19:13And so these are the payments, insurance payments.

2:19:16So all of these are not necessarily set by us.

2:19:21They are set by other agencies or

2:19:23they're set by other entities.

2:19:25It also includes debt service payments and everything

2:19:28that we need to make sure that that is

2:19:31adhering to a payment schedule.

2:19:33So those are some of those costs are just, again,

2:19:36not under our control infrastructure at this point,

2:19:42we're assuming about a one sixty five

2:19:45thousand dollar contribute.

2:19:46Once again, we are looking to want to we will confirm this

2:19:52with the city council what staff planning is to target

2:19:56that minimum 10% of operating expenses eventually

2:20:00the goal of $6 million for the emergency fund

2:20:04could be funded at about five thousand a year contribution

2:20:10once we get to the 10% point.

2:20:12Again this is going to require a whole lot of time and effort,

2:20:17but at this point with the relief

2:20:19money coming in with the expenditure assumptions

2:20:22that we're making.

2:20:23We just we believe that it's prudent to make sure

2:20:27that the target of that minimum 10%

2:20:30is met sooner rather than later.

2:20:32It alleviates so many different issues obviously,

2:20:35but it's also in, we're making sure

2:20:37that we're in compliance with not only our own policy

2:20:41but even getting further than that to the extent

2:20:44to the recommended policy by the GFA.

2:20:48And then again, the trend yield assumes 3% it can be lower.

2:20:54If it's issued at a premium.

2:20:56The cost of issuance as you see, we assume

2:20:59one twenty thousand dollars.

2:21:01And again the goal in increasing our fund balance

2:21:04will meet the goal of us being able to reduce our trend.

2:21:07So that we don't not only don't we rely on it.

2:21:10But that it's not required.

2:21:12That is certainly what we are wanting to move to.

2:21:15We are still going to need to use

2:21:17this tool for a few more years.

2:21:19But we are really hopeful that the faster we can get

2:21:23to our fund reserves built back that we

2:21:26will not have to rely on this tram and any additional funds.

2:21:30Yes there's just a point about 75%

2:21:33of general fund expenses personnel

2:21:36and as I look back over the last couple of years behead

2:21:43the combination of personnel costs,

2:21:47including purrs well up from some around 75% to about 70 70%

2:21:54at the end planning horizon, which is to 25, 26,

2:21:58and the significant increases in each of these years

2:22:01is obviously the first component calculus

2:22:03component that is presented to council at the last meeting.

2:22:07In fact, recently just pointed out

2:22:09that there was a difference between the budget for 1890

2:22:12and 2021 and the increase was 8% or something like that

2:22:16and the folks that put that information

2:22:18out about failed to record is that 75% of the budget

2:22:22is driven by staff.

2:22:24And staffing costs driven by first costing leases.

2:22:27And that directly contributed to the increase in budget costs,

2:22:30and they failed to recognize that.

2:22:33And we just pointed out that the budget increased by 8

2:22:36and that was no explanation for that.

2:22:38So I just want.

2:22:39I can't help but mention that in passing because there have been

2:22:42a lot of inaccuracies that are being

2:22:44circulated pretty good today.

2:22:45And I point these out as we go along in this five

2:22:48forecast Mexico okay.

2:22:55So I appreciate that this is somewhat

2:22:57small on This is we're trying to fit this on one screen.

2:23:04But the this column right here that is shaded

2:23:08is essentially this looks fine.

2:23:11Is this fiscal year.

2:23:13This again, is the baseline forecast

2:23:16these columns here have to do with the actual

2:23:20from the previous fiscal year going back to 2017 18.

2:23:25This is including the midyear projected end of year four

2:23:30this fiscal your 2020 2021.

2:23:33So this column is where we expect to land this year.

2:23:40This is where I would point out that here as discussed

2:23:44during the mid-year budget process This is the surplus

2:23:48that we would expect to have We have inserted a line

2:23:52for Kogan federal leaf again.

2:23:53It would be somewhere within these the scope

2:23:56of these revenues.

2:23:57But right now it's just a placeholder here,

2:24:00and we're all still including the one point $3 million

2:24:04write that would come from our fund balance.

2:24:07So at this point, our net would be seven million dollars.

2:24:13If you add that to the fund balance

2:24:15that we ended last year, which was a negative 1 hundred ten

2:24:19our expectation is that we would have a one

2:24:22point $6 million fund balance as of June 30,

2:24:27which would be 3% here.

2:24:30This forecast again considering our very conservative estimates

2:24:35for the revenues and a fully loaded non

2:24:40sharpened pencil discussion of where we're

2:24:43at with our baseline budget.

2:24:44This is where we would expect to land at this point,

2:24:48we would expect that we would actually

2:24:50not have a surplus next year.

2:24:53Again this is just the first cut.

2:24:55So that's why I want to make this is not the budget.

2:24:57This is our first cut at this what we would expect

2:25:00with all of this being assumed we

2:25:03would be under 1.2 5 3 million.

2:25:06We would receive another two point $4 million

2:25:09per federal relief.

2:25:10This would be the beginning fund balance this year.

2:25:13I'm sorry.

2:25:14This would be the ending fund balance.

2:25:16And then we would add that to next to

2:25:19what would end this year to have a two point $4 million

2:25:23fund balance, which would be about half

2:25:26of our minimum reserve goal.

2:25:28I want to point out that with the federal relief money

2:25:32this puts us ahead of where we thought we would be

2:25:35for the fiscal response plan.

2:25:37However we're still only half of our minimum goal.

2:25:39And so again, this is the first cut in out years.

2:25:44This is what is concerning to us.

2:25:46You'll see that this ends up going negative.

2:25:49Why a lot right here helpers contributions.

2:25:52As pointed out these increase significantly over time

2:25:56is the expenses that we anticipate.

2:25:58And again, here we have kept a lot flat

2:26:03So this is why we're being again,

2:26:06super conservative about this.

2:26:07These revenues could increase These expenses will decrease.

2:26:10But this is the first cut of the baseline

2:26:13that we are looking at.

2:26:15And from here, this is where we need

2:26:18to make sure that we are reducing expenditures

2:26:20or increasing revenues.

2:26:21But I'm not counting on the increased revenues.

The baseline result was given, with a caution about what it is.

The finding: “this is where we would expect to land… we would expect that we would actually not have a surplus next year.”

Her caveat: “this is just the first cut. So… this is not the budget. This is our first cut.”

The figure under those assumptions: “we would be under 1.253 million” — and “we would receive another two point four million” in federal relief.

Staff expected fire overtime to fall by about half now that vacancies were filled. The finance director said figures circulated that day about an 8% budget increase had left out that about 75% of the budget is staffing, driven by pension costs.

With the relief, staff projected about a $2.4 million fund balance — “about half of our minimum reserve goal” — after about $1.6 million (3%) at the end of the current year. In the out years the forecast goes negative, driven largely by rising CalPERS contributions.

Significant

Without cuts, staff expected no surplus the following year; federal relief would bring the fund balance to about half the minimum reserve goal. Staff also noted that debt service is “well below 5% — it's 3% most [of] the time and dropping down to 2%,” against a policy of “no less than 5%.”

21 One million, or two captions 2638–2935

2:26:24I'm counting on what we can control to do to the degree,

2:26:29we can which would be expenditures Yes, I think

2:26:36you've covered most of that.

2:26:38And I've got to jump the third slide on this okay.

2:26:42Yeah.

2:26:43So as we as we outlined in the agenda

2:26:46Bill and we have also prepared to additional alternative

2:26:50scenarios that would include budget

2:26:53reductions that would get us closer or at our reserve goal.

2:26:57This is what we're taking a look at next.

2:27:00And this is what we want to bring to you for discussion

2:27:03and perhaps direction.

2:27:04So the first scenario proposes a $1 million

2:27:10reduction in baseline expenditures.

2:27:12So that This is all the same here.

2:27:16The difference becomes right here,

2:27:18this red no permanent budget reductions

2:27:21would be a million dollars and by permanent we

2:27:25mean ongoing budget reductions.

2:27:27So that's not necessarily only furloughs it would need

2:27:32to be something more significant like cola deferrals or thorium

2:27:38losing my train of thought eliminating position

2:27:40and things of that nature would need to be permanent.

2:27:43So that is what we're looking at although we anticipate

2:27:48that there will still have to be a blend of one

2:27:51time and permanent costs, but this is, again, assuming this

2:27:55that would go across the board.

2:27:57It would have a significant impact over the years, a one

2:28:01million reduction changes this bottom part here to only half

2:28:04a million dollar difference if you add

2:28:07the two point $4 million here.

2:28:09This would have us end the year at one

2:28:12point Eight million, which would add to the one point 6.

2:28:16And we would have a 3 point $4 million fund balance,

2:28:20which gets us to 8%.

2:28:22Again better than we've been in close to 10 years,

2:28:25not at our goal.

2:28:27But This is what we.

2:28:29This is what we could possibly achieve with a million dollars

2:28:32in reductions I will say that a million in reductions.

2:28:36Again because we have assumed this all fully loaded there

2:28:40and the department's already started

2:28:42to analyze their budgets already started to analyze the revenues

2:28:45to take a look at where we're at and kind of compare

2:28:49next year to this year's cost.

2:28:52One of the things that we're still not sure about

2:28:54is what our expenses will actually

2:28:56look like going through because we're super

2:28:58hopeful for example, that our recreation programs will be

2:29:02able to ramp back up not just that would not just

2:29:07increase our revenues, but it would

2:29:09also even out our expenditure.

2:29:11We also know that we're not sure we are already we've already

2:29:14announced that we're not going to have events for the rest

2:29:18at least for the rest of the summer.

2:29:20So this things like July 4th and Earth Day and all those things

2:29:24have been canceled that goes in.

2:29:26That impact goes the next fiscal year.

2:29:28So there still may be some reductions in expenses

2:29:31that we, again, are going to be sharpening our pencils

2:29:35and taking a very close look at this is certainly an achievable

2:29:38goal for all of us to be able to obtain without major service

2:29:44delivery issues.

2:29:45But I just want to point out that this is something that

2:29:50would be a minimum that we would be able to that,

2:29:54we want to be able to have the Council discuss have us take

2:29:58a look at mark given to Oh and one more thing

2:30:06about this one million scenario, we would still need to we

2:30:13would still need to continue a higher trend might not

2:30:16be at the 9 million level it might not the $8 million level,

2:30:21but it would not be much of a reduction

2:30:23we would still need to continue to move

2:30:25that forward because we would not at the end of this year,

2:30:29we still would not have enough of a fund balance

2:30:32to be able to cover that cash flow.

2:30:35So then the next scenario would propose a $2 million

2:30:40reduction as seen in this line here with this scenario

2:30:45reserve policy goals are met right away.

2:30:48You can see that this would allow

2:30:50to create a surplus of about one sixty nine thousand dollars

2:30:55with the additional relief money that would be coming in adding

2:30:59to the fund the last match the next I'm

2:31:03sorry the previous fiscal year on balance

2:31:06gets us to a ten point 9% general fund goal

2:31:11at the end of the fiscal year 2010 to this

2:31:15obviously would allow us as well if you can see this bottom line

2:31:20here, even with these increases as we've

2:31:23assumed the same increases as the previous two scenarios.

2:31:27This does allow us to maintain near either at or near

2:31:31our minimum goal, which that is the reliance that we're looking

2:31:37for that is the fiscal health target that we're looking

2:31:41for is to make sure that we're maintain

2:31:44meaning our fund balance.

2:31:45But the reductions would only just

2:31:47be enough to meet that minimum.

2:31:49So in order to offset any additional increases in

2:31:52expenditures that might happen.

2:31:54We would have to either look to additional revenues

2:31:56and we would have to include some of those revenues

2:31:59or we would have to make further reductions in order to increase

2:32:04this beyond salary increases beyond essentially

2:32:09the minimum fund balance goal.

2:32:12$2 million.

2:32:13Again $1 million.

2:32:14We can we believe that we can achieve with a lot of pencil

2:32:19sharpening but $2 million as the council discussed

2:32:22during the midyear discussion that additional $1

2:32:26million conversation would need to be had.

2:32:29And we'll get into that in just a little bit

2:32:34as far as what that could look like.

2:32:36And with the priorities of the council are.

2:32:38But this is the harder discussion

2:32:40that we would have to have.

2:32:41But this is what it would achieve

2:32:43if we are able to do that.

2:32:45So mark yes and Kellen Could I just jump back

2:32:50to the council bucket for this.

2:32:53I think it's a bigger slide and I could shift.

2:32:59You should let me share this.

2:33:01I had it up in.

2:33:03I'm just going to share with counsel Patrick

2:33:06screen from the Council Patrick, for that Can

2:33:09you see this is it yet.

2:33:12Okay so I've just loaded up.

2:33:14So you can have a better view of things that's

2:33:18gone I've been pointing out.

2:33:20He's the $2 million reduction job

2:33:23that you have in your package.

2:33:26And the extreme right column here

2:33:29presents the assumptions assumptions that

2:33:31underlie each of these roles.

2:33:33And I just want to draw your attention a couple of things

2:33:38here.

2:33:38The proposed budget plan money forecast is 41 point $3 million

2:33:43in terms of revenues.

2:33:44And if you look back over the preceding few years.

2:33:48And these what we've done with previous Long-Term

2:33:51financial forecasts.

2:33:52We always present three or four years from the past

2:33:55plus the current plus the proposed upcoming budget

2:33:58the plus the five years ahead typically,

2:34:01that's in keeping the GFC guidelines low incomes

2:34:04to financial forecasting.

2:34:05So looking back, you'll notice that the 40 one point three

2:34:09that we project is the same almost the same number as bond

2:34:14back in 1819 so that begs the question has the recovery

2:34:18coming at all right.

2:34:20Because 40 one point three was back in 1890

2:34:23and we were impacted in nineteen twenty

2:34:25so therefore, it's 40 twenty two.

2:34:28And then the full impact was felt in 2021

2:34:30and that's why we have 38 million in revenues.

2:34:33And here's the question, which is for training you on 22 What

2:34:37is your assumption support that Mitch is Obie back in the game,

2:34:40or is it back 18, 19, and we've taken

2:34:43a conservative view of things here as Graham pointed out.

2:34:47And we have not expanded the 25% of revenue

2:34:50that is within our purview to expand in more than 2%.

2:34:54Everything else has been presented by HD

2:34:57soft the revenue package 70% is going by models set up by HDL

2:35:0230% by charges for services form costs

2:35:05recovered France was in soon.

2:35:07So be present.

2:35:09We preserved a conservative estimate on that.

2:35:12I just want to point that out to you here.

2:35:16And then moving down to the bottom of this slide

2:35:19again, as campaign out with a 2 million

2:35:22reduction it's a time reduction, it needs to be

2:35:26a permanent budgetary action.

2:35:27And then that happens, the immediately ten point 9%

2:35:31policy goal for fund balance but more importantly, I

2:35:35think you'll buy recognize that we

2:35:37continue to draw down on the trend the trend currently is 8.

2:35:42And a half million.

2:35:43I make just I just take a slight Pat detail at this point

2:35:48because information I've been presented to the Moyne publicly

2:35:52that the trend for the last fiscal

2:35:54has got to cost the city to hide seventy two thousand beaches

2:35:57inaccurate forecast.

2:35:59Did that analysis fail to do a complete analysis recognize

2:36:04that we issued a trend to a public offering

2:36:07and for the shoot at a premium of a sixty thousand dollars

2:36:10that helps us defray part of that cost and no

2:36:13do when we get the train.

2:36:16We start putting money aside in January

2:36:18it made starts immediately starts earning interest for us

2:36:21in late and then leave interest was not factored in to offset

2:36:25the cost of the travel.

2:36:27So you sense the trend for 21 was almost at 0 cost

2:36:31to the city.

2:36:32But the information that was presented was somewhat slanted

2:36:34and we just want to make that point out,

2:36:37in fact, I am inclined to ask folks still

2:36:40pages to review the trend trends action

2:36:42and to certify that the Crown did not cost us

2:36:44a penny for this fiscal year.

2:36:46But that's a side point.

2:36:47So that being said, you still can to meet a trend of about $4

2:36:51million because the trend plus the fund balance

2:36:53needs to even out to about approximate 8 million.

2:36:56That's the math.

2:36:57So 8 million is what we need to make albeit through 9

2:37:00but which the lowest point in our cash flow

2:37:03And if you have a fund balance of 4 million,

2:37:06then the remaining needs to come from.

2:37:08So that's the tracking number that you see here,

2:37:10which is horizontal $4 million for the next foreseeable future

2:37:14again, like I point it out to you.

2:37:18Pension costs and staffing costs 75% they go up to about 80%

2:37:22and off this amount 20% is pension costs

2:37:25so you looking back into 17, 18 the total wages and salaries

2:37:30and benefit is only 75%.

2:37:32And the pension cost is 14% for a total

2:37:35of 60 61% plus the staffing costs,

2:37:39you'll notice that the 61% has now declined at the end

2:37:44his five year freeze to about because you're pension costs

2:37:48is 21%, and 80 80%.

2:37:50So 80% Mr anyone is 59.

2:37:52That's your staffing costs.

2:37:54Whereas back here it was more than 61%

2:37:56it was about whatever So just as I pointed it up.

2:38:01And then on the other issues that we might have

2:38:04within the city expenditures as a percentage

2:38:06of operating costs.

2:38:08And we are constrain by policy to have no less than 5%

2:38:11and you'll notice that the number is well below 5% it's

2:38:143% most the time and dropping down to 2%

2:38:16and that's all of the debt obligations

2:38:18that we have to make.

2:38:20And payments that we need to make as time progresses.

2:38:23So these are little points that I might mention in passing you

2:38:26in the fact that this is put to the most viable option for us

2:38:30in this five year forecast, which that $2 million

2:38:34one time reduction permanent reductions keeping in mind

2:38:37that we have we anticipated four point eight

2:38:41million federal relief package that

2:38:43should come obvious starting this year

2:38:45and into next as well.

2:38:47And with that, I will hand this back to counter and again jump

2:38:51back to how i have stuff Shannon Now

2:39:15the hard part talking about how we get.

2:39:22So these slides you seen before.

2:39:25I'm not going to go over them in great detail

2:39:28because you've seen them many times before,

2:39:30but this is just one more reminder

2:39:32of what we have done so far.

2:39:34So that you're aware of what we've done so

2:39:37far because we have done a lot.

2:39:40This is the cost savings that was implemented

2:39:42for this fiscal year, both ongoing and time savings These

2:39:47are the reductions for personnel as far as not only

2:39:51the reductions from departments of the one point $6 million

2:39:56that was directed last during the lab.

2:39:59This during this time last year, the Council

2:40:01directed us to cut $2 million.

2:40:03So this one point 6 is part of that $2 million dollars.

2:40:08Again These are all personnel related where it impacted

2:40:12management confidential every single bargaining unit deferred

2:40:16their COLAs last year and Additionally

2:40:18the non-public safety staff took furloughs

2:40:22for the entire fiscal year.

2:40:26This is by department.

2:40:28So this is not inclusive of the fiscal response plan that

2:40:31was adopted over the summer.

2:40:33This is what that one point $6 million

2:40:36consists of by department.

2:40:38You can see each of the department's control

2:40:40what their contribution was to that one point

2:40:43$6 million reduction again, this was

2:40:46the first pre pandemic off the bat one point $6 million

2:40:50reduction in staffing and services

2:40:55This is the fiscal response plan that

2:40:57was adopted by the City Council and implemented

2:41:00within the fiscal year budget.

2:41:02This fiscal year budget.

2:41:03The one point five million.

2:41:06These were all personnel and contract reductions

2:41:10including layoffs and elimination of five positions

2:41:18this goes by.

2:41:20This is a depiction of how each of the bargaining units to date

2:41:24have been reduced or what they have agreed to as you can see,

2:41:30every single bargaining unit did agree to at least

2:41:33a further cola or in the case of management

2:41:36confidential myself defer to cola or didn't get a cola

2:41:40and are not planning on doing that next fiscal year as well.

2:41:43But this is what we have to date as you also

2:41:47know the police Employee Association agreed to further

2:41:49their COLAs twice and SEIU and the management group were also

2:41:54and myself were subject to furloughs

2:41:57and again, these are this is another review

2:42:01of the assumptions in everything that

2:42:03kind of is all put together.

2:42:05As you know because of COVID 19, a lot of the expenses

2:42:09and reductions in revenue from things like personnel i'm

2:42:12sorry recreation including programs Senior Services

2:42:15programs and a reduction in other aquatics and child care

2:42:19and camps and all of those things

2:42:22we've assumed that through the end of this fiscal year.

Two reduction scenarios were put to the Council.

A $1 million permanent reduction would leave a fund balance of about $3.4 million, 8% — “better than we've been in close to 10 years,” but short of the goal; staff thought it achievable “without major service delivery issues.”

The $1 million scenario would not be enough: “we would still need to continue a higher trend… it might not be at the 9 million level, it might not [be] the $8 million level, but it would not be much of a reduction.”

The reason: “we would not, at the end of this year, still would not have enough of a fund balance to be able to cover that cash flow.”

That is the cash-flow gap the TRAN bridges; staff project a TRAN of about $4 million “for the next foreseeable future” even in the $2 million scenario.

Debt service was noted as running below policy: the city is “constrain[ed] by policy to have no less than 5%” and “the number is well below 5% — it's 3% most [of] the time and dropping down to 2%.”

The $2 million scenario is different: “reserve policy goals are met right away.”

And it produces “a surplus of about one sixty nine thousand dollars with the additional relief” money.

That would bring the fund balance to 10.9% by the end of 2021-22; the reductions would need to be permanent.

The finance director called the two million “the most viable option for us in this five year forecast… that $2 million one time reduction [and] permanent reductions.”

The finance director also disputed figures circulated publicly on the cost of the TRAN, saying they left out the premium received and interest earned. The City Manager then reviewed cuts already made: $1.6 million of reductions directed before the pandemic, the $1.5 million fiscal response plan with layoffs and five positions eliminated, COLA deferrals by every bargaining unit, and furloughs for non-public-safety staff.

Significant

One million in cuts still leaves too little fund balance “to cover that cash flow”; two million meets the reserve policy immediately, though a TRAN of about $4 million remains. The finance director calls the $2 million “the most viable option,” and the Mayor closes by saying “we've all agreed… that $2 million is our goal.”

22 “Every single thing on that table” captions 2936–3116

2:42:26But that is because we have to that is purely based

2:42:30on what we're restricted to per cockpit because per the county

2:42:34health order because of Cobain again,

2:42:37we eliminated three full time positions in two part time

2:42:40positions in city management and recreation

2:42:42that was effective as of January 1 of this year,

2:42:45we reduce fire type overtime in the fire department

2:42:48by filling three vacant positions we've restructured

2:42:51police department operations.

2:42:52This continues to be ongoing this will be continued to go

2:42:55through into next fiscal year.

2:42:57But at this point, we have reduced one staff

2:43:01to thirty seven officers and the Special Operations Division

2:43:04and there will be more restructuring that will happen

2:43:07within next year's budget, which is part of that,

2:43:11which again, is part of the pencil sharpening

2:43:14that I referred to on.

2:43:16There are additional vacant positions

2:43:18that happened within the last couple of months,

2:43:21including three full time positions

2:43:23city management and recreation those

2:43:25were effective as of February.

2:43:28Again we've already shared that the police Employees

2:43:31Association revised their view and deferred

2:43:34their call that was due to them in January July.

2:43:37And when I say deferred I want to make sure that you

2:43:40understand that that means it was it

2:43:41was delayed they will not get it back.

2:43:44It is it was pushed to July.

2:43:46Again We've canceled our major events Earth Day July 4th

2:43:49and there's been various other expense reductions

2:43:52things like training that we haven't that we would normally

2:43:55budget for that, we just haven't been

2:43:58able to do because of COVID no one's traveling

2:44:01no one's doing a lot of other anything other

2:44:04than online training.

2:44:05So training costs have significantly

2:44:07been reduced that's just us that is just one example.

2:44:11So again, this is kind of a review of all of the things

2:44:15we have done to date.

2:44:17Now, the hard part begins and this conversation

2:44:19that we can start tonight to discuss things like priorities

2:44:23and what is on the table.

2:44:25But more importantly, what comes off the table is now

2:44:28the hard part of the discussion that we're not

2:44:31going to resolve this tonight obviously,

2:44:33there's gonna be next steps.

2:44:35But I just want to point out that this is where we are.

2:44:39So these and this is also our review of the reduction options

2:44:43that we have previously discussed that were not acted

2:44:46on by the city council and I just

2:44:49want to share that I am aware that we have such an engaged

2:44:53and passionate community.

2:44:54And that's one of the reasons why I love living here.

2:44:58And I love being a part of it ever single thing that's on

2:45:03said table has a passionate enthusiastic and big group

2:45:06of advocates that will absolutely

2:45:09want to make sure that they are preserved

2:45:12all of these services.

2:45:14So these are incredibly hard decisions

2:45:16because every single one every single

2:45:18option in addition to all of these has a constituent seat.

2:45:21So I just want to share that I recognize that.

2:45:25And I understand that.

2:45:26And as the council has said, there's

2:45:28if everything is on the table The question is, what

2:45:31do we take off the table first.

2:45:34So I just kind want to set that stage.

2:45:36But these are the options that we have discussed either

2:45:39through the fiscal response plan or that we brought

2:45:42during the requests from the council

2:45:43to take a look what a million dollars

2:45:46in reductions this fiscal year would look like.

2:45:48There are other options.

2:45:50But I just wanted to review that these were the things that were

2:45:54talked about on outsourcing services that could include

2:45:57anything from custodial to other city hall services, finance

2:46:02anything from building and planning

2:46:04or any sort of financial service any services within city Hall

2:46:08could consider being outsourced.

2:46:10And I think as Jan council member Wilson had pointed out

2:46:14in the previously, these are the none of these options are also

2:46:18a quick panacea either these would take time and effort

2:46:21to be able to implement and meeting conferring with all

2:46:23of the bargaining units.

2:46:24But again, these are just options

2:46:26that have been discussed in the past that could be discussed

2:46:29in the future outsourcing any sort of services the reducing

2:46:34the city subsidy for library hours has been discussed

2:46:38reducing recreation programs or at least eliminating subsidies

2:46:41for recreation programs again, was this one of this

2:46:44is one of the things that was brought up

2:46:46in the state auditor's report perhaps

2:46:48we're not charging enough base.

2:46:50They have seemed to indicate that they

2:46:52would want us to seek a higher level of cost recovery.

2:46:56So that we are not completely subsidizing some

2:46:59of these programs that can be considered decreasing Fire

2:47:02Department response services, whether it's decreasing

2:47:05services browning outstation closing a station

2:47:08those things have been discussed.

2:47:11Same is true for police department Response

2:47:15and Services reducing those perhaps reducing officers

2:47:19reducing services within that realm decreasing maintenance

2:47:22citywide again, this would be we we'd try to provide

2:47:27a really high level of service.

2:47:29And we want to make sure that we're everything from our parks

2:47:32and our curbs in our streets.

2:47:34We have a lot of special funding for that.

2:47:36But anything in the general fund could be cut and finally,

2:47:40just to point out that reducing staff equals reducing programs.

2:47:45People equal services services equal people.

2:47:48So any reduction in staff especially

2:47:51now, because with the layoffs that we have already

2:47:55implemented and the resignations and retirement that we have not

2:47:59backfilled right now we're down at least 14 people

2:48:04and that is a significant amount when it comes

2:48:07to a small town like ours.

2:48:09So at this point, if at any point

2:48:12the someone leaves the service, the service has to either go

2:48:16spread around or go away.

2:48:19And so because we're now down to an even more reduced.

2:48:22I just want to make sure that everybody knows that if you

2:48:25layoff a person if you reduce the person

2:48:27you are reducing the service that is attached to that person

2:48:31because people provide the services.

2:48:33Finally.

2:48:34Again all of these services and anything else that

2:48:37could be considered as an option or by the Council

2:48:41or brought up by the public regardless

2:48:44of what that is all of these options

2:48:46come with major impacts.

2:48:47One of the examples used was the fire department

2:48:50if we were to reduce a fire station Brown out

2:48:53of fire station or reduce services

2:48:54in any way that absolutely impacts

2:48:57our contract with Kensington.

2:48:59And so that would be a significant analysis

2:49:02that we would need to do in order to if this were something

2:49:06that was indeed on the table.

2:49:08We would have to do a very thorough analysis of what that

2:49:12would mean to the rest of what that contract would entail

2:49:15as well as the revenues that go with that contract.

2:49:18Same is true for recreation if you reduce if you reduce

2:49:22services you're going to reduce the revenues that recreation

2:49:26provide recreation brings in from providing those services.

2:49:30So these are, again, options that have been discussed

2:49:33additional options couldn't continue to be discussed

2:49:36and will have to be discussed.

2:49:38But I just wanted to kind of go over what has been what

2:49:42has been talked about previously though at this point

2:49:45This is the end of my presentation.

2:49:47And I'll just leave this.

2:49:49I can leave the slide up or I can

2:49:52we can go back and discuss anything further

2:49:544 city council questions.

2:49:55But one of the things that the staff really does

2:49:58want to make sure that the council

2:50:00provides us direction on.

2:50:01If you if you would be so inclined

2:50:03would be that we and you see there are strategic goals,

2:50:09which which which still are still in place and goal

2:50:14be achieving long term financial sustainability

2:50:17has pretty much been staff's number one priority.

2:50:20This entire past at least certainly,

2:50:23it seems like my entire tenure as city manager at this point.

2:50:28But considering now that we have the opportunity.

2:50:31It's not the federal relief is not a panacea.

2:50:34However it does allow us to get closer to our minimum fund

2:50:38balance goal.

2:50:39And so we believe that offering a priority of at least gaining

2:50:44our minimum fund balance goal per our policies

2:50:47that we are indeed following our policy

2:50:49is something that we need to have as a top of mind priority.

2:50:52There are other community priorities

2:50:53that we also want to discuss and this is why we will be having

2:50:57a community meeting in April and we're

2:50:59still working on that date.

2:51:01But it should be as if we're looking at for it

2:51:04to be one of the Saturdays in April.

2:51:07So it's a different time council meeting and not late at night.

The City Manager reviewed the options previously discussed and not acted on, and acknowledged what each costs politically.

Her framing of the list: “our review of the reduction options that we have previously discussed that were not acted on by the city council.”

Then the acknowledgement: “I am aware that we have such an engaged and passionate community, and that's one of the reasons why I love living here.”

And the consequence: “every single thing that's on [that] table has a passionate, enthusiastic” constituency.

The options listed: outsourcing city hall services, reducing the library hours subsidy, reducing or ending recreation subsidies (the auditor had suggested higher cost recovery), browning out or closing a fire station, which would affect the Kensington contract, reducing police services, and cutting maintenance. With layoffs and unfilled vacancies the city was already “down at least 14 people,” and “reducing staff equals reducing programs.”

On the evening itself: “the hard part of the discussion… we're not going to resolve this tonight, obviously. There's gonna be next steps.”

She restated the priority: “the federal relief is not a panacea. However, it does allow us to get closer to our minimum fund balance goal.”

And announced the April engagement: “we will be having a community meeting in April… one of the Saturdays,” deliberately “a different time [than a] council meeting and not late at night.”

Significant

“Every single thing that's on that table has a passionate, enthusiastic” constituency, the City Manager says as she lists the options not yet acted on. The April community meeting is to be on a Saturday, “a different time [than a] council meeting and not late at night.”

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2:51:12But the strategic goals again, are in place right now.

2:51:15We had intended to try to update our strategic plan.

2:51:19We would still like to be able to do that if possible.

2:51:22But again, we're trying to make sure that we're balancing

2:51:25out our time, our resources.

2:51:26And whether or not we're able to afford to be able to do that.

2:51:31And then again equity is a huge community goal that not only

2:51:34has been brought up to fight.

2:51:36But it has been certainly something

2:51:38that has been top of mind particular since last year

2:51:41with the murder of George Floyd and all of the various Capone

2:51:45that we have been able to see as far as racial justice,

2:51:50social justice and equity considerations

2:51:52that we do want to incorporate within our budget

2:51:55and within all of the things that we do.

2:51:57That is something that we absolutely

2:51:59need to consider as a community priority however we do

2:52:03want to make sure that with all of our strategic

2:52:05that we're not only concerned that money is not a goal equity

2:52:09is not a goal equity is a value equity, and inclusion.

2:52:12And diversity are values that underpin everything we do.

2:52:15But we do want to acknowledge and make sure that is front

2:52:19of mind as a priority balanced with the what

2:52:21all of the community priorities have to be done

2:52:24in the next steps would be, again,

2:52:26we would like to hold a community

2:52:28meeting we would hopefully be able to answer

2:52:30questions of the public.

2:52:32I'm sure Christian but the public

2:52:34do have a lot of questions that we can answer as

2:52:37far as our status, but also try to determine

2:52:40some of the priorities that the community is looking at.

2:52:43The financial advisory board, of course,

2:52:45is our partner in all of this.

2:52:47We want their next meeting.

2:52:49I believe is April 13 right.

2:52:51Mark did I get that right.

2:52:53They will be I know they were slated to discuss

2:52:55the state auditor's report.

2:52:57But they'll also be discussing their work plan.

2:53:00They have already.

2:53:01They will be reviewing the iteration of this.

2:53:04And as per their they're enacting legislation

2:53:07they will review the budgets.

2:53:08They will make recommendations to the city council on things

2:53:11like the budget and including any updates to the Financial

2:53:15Policy we would like to come back to have another budget

2:53:18study session following these.

2:53:20These are the community meeting.

2:53:21And the FAB meeting at your second April meeting and then

2:53:25any additional special meetings that are required or requested

2:53:27of the city council to be able to continue

2:53:30further this discussion of fiscal recovery plan.

2:53:33This was something that the state auditor noted that they

2:53:37would like to see from us.

2:53:39And it would be a bit beyond the fiscal response

2:53:42plan, which was what we had included in this year's budget.

2:53:46This would be more of a sustainability plan.

2:53:48This would be more of a long bit of a long term accountability

2:53:52plan that we would develop that I think

2:53:54that the fiscal response plan all

2:53:56of these forecasts that we've been doing

2:53:57are good basis for that.

2:53:59But This is something we will need

2:54:00to be developing over time.

2:54:01And we will need to provide to the state auditor

2:54:04and we do want to make sure that we are engaging

2:54:07the council and the public as we move

2:54:10forward on that recommendation.

2:54:12And then finally budget hearings, which

2:54:14we expect to begin in May.

2:54:16We will be bringing to you not only some of the draft

2:54:20budget items that we have.

2:54:22But we also will be hearing from all of the departments who will

2:54:25make presentations to the city council for their own budgets

2:54:27and then you are able to ask questions each department head.

2:54:30And so we will be doing that beginning in may

2:54:33and having budget hearings until the budget is passed

2:54:35no later than the end of June.

2:54:38But again, we are prepared to be able to hold special meetings

2:54:41if the council desires to be able to have

2:54:44these conversations.

2:54:45So at this point, this is meant to be a discussion.

2:54:48Ask any questions of staff.

2:54:50And we also have department heads on the call,

2:54:53if you would like to ask questions

2:54:55of some of the department heads as well.

2:54:58But at this point, we're looking for any direction

2:55:01at the City Council has based on this presentation.

2:55:04And certainly.

2:55:06Again for me, the biggest priority

2:55:08would be to to have you confirm that we are seeking to make

2:55:12sure that we're meeting our minimum fund balance

2:55:14goal as soon as possible.

2:55:15And with that.

2:55:16Mark, I don't know if you have anything else to add.

2:55:23So with that, I can stop sharing my screen on

2:55:26or if the council has any specific questions

2:55:29on any of the slides.

2:55:30I'm happy to go back to the slides Questions

2:55:35from council members Mayor Pro Tem Cato could we minimize.

2:55:40Pardon me Mayor could be minimized.

2:55:43The discreet say we can't see everyone.

2:55:46And I don't think that the public can see it as well.

2:55:50You I mean, I can stop sharing the screen.

2:55:53I just wanted to make sure if anyone wanted to go back.

2:55:57We can go back mayor.

2:55:58Greenbelt Sorry about Rico's presentation

2:56:11thank you and thank you.

2:56:13And I want to make sure that residents

2:56:17know how dire the situation is.

2:56:20And we are.

2:56:21We are here to follow the suggestions

2:56:25and we're doing many of that already,

2:56:28but I want people to know that since we have

2:56:32since the last recession when the main when

2:56:36the majority of cities were doing

2:56:38what we should have done back then

2:56:41they're so much ahead of us.

2:56:45And and this is something that i want to make sure

2:56:50everyone realizes we're still dealing with big government.

2:56:54We're still dealing with huge, huge,

2:56:58huge budgets that small cities like El Serino cannot afford

2:57:03to do period where seven $2 million that we have to think

2:57:08of how we're Davis with calipers and unfunded

2:57:11liabilities every year.

2:57:13And and we don't have a solution for that.

2:57:16So I truly do believe that we need

2:57:20to For the record left everyone know that this federal stimulus

2:57:28money at that.

2:57:30We are going to receive and to payments must

2:57:35go to reserves and reserves only with and on that

2:57:40gets my turn to Karen and to mark will

2:57:45that work for our management.

2:57:48With that work for you.

2:57:51We want to make sure that we are negative BBB rating,

2:57:56which is basically junk.

2:57:58Status we need to improve between now

2:58:01and the month of June.

2:58:04And in my opinion, in order to do that,

2:58:07we need to show that we mean business in cutting costs.

2:58:11So I want to make sure that that i'm I am I wrong at this

2:58:18can't we up our credit rating.

2:58:21So we can get a better trend rate.

2:58:25Is that possible.

2:58:26Well I can let speak to if he has any opinions

2:58:31on the bond rating.

2:58:33But again, I certainly, I think it's

2:58:36a very good priority to make sure that we

2:58:39are bolstering our reserves.

2:58:41I clearly i mean, that's kind of the theme I'm using here.

2:58:45But what we just have to make sure that we're doing

2:58:48is that we're sort of fighting for the federal relief money

2:58:51that we're certifying that it's being appropriately.

2:58:54It's appropriated correctly.

2:58:55And so we need to make sure that we're resolving

2:58:59any potential issues with the Fed

2:59:01as far as that is concerned, I will

2:59:04say this the federal relief money is a one time payment

2:59:07And as you all know, it's a best practice

2:59:10and a good financial practice that we don't want to spend.

2:59:13You never want to spend a one time windfall

2:59:16payment on an ongoing cost.

2:59:17So that that is a clear direction that I agree with.

2:59:23And we believe that because revenues

2:59:26were we had much lower revenues than did because of the COVID

2:59:31pandemic that these can replace lost revenues

2:59:34that part is clear in the bill.

2:59:36We just want to make sure that we're certifying it correctly.

2:59:40But I agree.

2:59:41I believe that bolstering our General Fund Reserve

2:59:43needs to be our very first priority that will certainly

2:59:46improve our bond rating.

2:59:48And I don't know if you have any thoughts on how I got my mail.

2:59:52Right.

2:59:52That's the opinion, that should be our main prior already.

2:59:56Shall we make a motion on that to make sure

3:00:00that we are united in making sure that that stimulus

3:00:05package goes to the reserves.

3:00:07That we have depleted since 2012 looking at that report.

3:00:12A lot of these programs that previous leadership

3:00:15put we never had any money to begin to set these.

3:00:20So get And we just kicked the bucket kick

3:00:23the can for the last 10 years.

Staff set out what they were actually asking the Council to decide.

The ask: “we're looking for any direction that the City Council has based on this presentation.”

And the priority within it: “the biggest priority would be to have you confirm that we are seeking to make sure that we're meeting our minimum fund balance goal as soon as possible.”

Department heads were on the call for questions.

Staff “had intended to try to update our strategic plan,” but the financial work had taken precedence.

The strategic goals “are in place right now”; staff “would still like to be able to” update the plan “if possible,” balancing time, resources and “whether or not we're able to afford” it.

The policy minimum is 10 percent; staff aim eventually to go beyond it toward “the recommended policy by the GFOA,” and a resident asked whether the goal “shouldn't… be at 17%.”

Quinto told residents “how dire the situation is”: since the last recession most cities had done what El Cerrito should have done and were “so much ahead of us,” and the city faced about $72 million in CalPERS unfunded liabilities. He called the city's BBB-minus rating “basically junk”; BBB-minus is the lowest investment grade. The City Manager agreed that bolstering the general fund reserve should be the first priority and that one-time money should not pay for ongoing costs.

Quinto asked for a motion that the federal relief “must go to reserves and reserves only”; the Mayor said a motion was premature until the Treasury rules were known, but “the direction is clear.”

Significant

Staff said the strategic plan update had been displaced by the financial work. Confirming the 10% minimum fund balance as the priority is the direction staff sought, and what is reported as Council direction three weeks later.

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3:00:25We can no longer do this that if we continue to do this,

3:00:29we're going to use the B word.

3:00:31And I don't want to use that word.

3:00:33So I mean business is about making

3:00:35these fundamental changes and for now on good government

3:00:41and good government is always looking at the budget

3:00:44and make sure we have reserves if we

3:00:46can't afford these programs.

3:00:48We are not going to have it or relevance

3:00:51is the time for questions.

3:00:53So my question again, is I like to make motion time for that.

3:00:58I don't think that any if I may Mayor Pro Tem that might

3:01:03be a little premature in favor.

3:01:04I don't want I don't want the council

3:01:06to have to take action if we don't have the specifics yet

3:01:09from the Treasury.

3:01:11So once we receive that clarity then

3:01:13I would love a motion at this point,

3:01:17I think that the direction is clear.

3:01:20Can we actually implement that Well, I

3:01:22think that we'll just need to we'll

3:01:24have to bring that back to you.

3:01:27OK.

3:01:27And let's try to from the public tonight to OK.

3:01:30I'm sorry Mayor Pro Tem Are you still in other areas.

3:01:34Yes I wanted to give an answer from both you

3:01:38that's 72 million calipers.

3:01:41What's the solution.

3:01:44How are we going to get out of this mess.

3:01:46Well you know it to some degree we.

3:01:51That that is an expense that we are required to pay.

3:01:56We are not able to not pay the pension bill.

3:02:01We are not able to take the pension benefits away

3:02:04from our employees.

3:02:05That is not legal.

3:02:07So I just we have to pay this bill.

3:02:10It's a matter of how we pay the bill

3:02:13and how we're able to offset our liabilities.

3:02:15That is what we.

3:02:17That is what we have to be able to take a look.

3:02:20We believe.

3:02:21And then feel afraid to jump in our art at this point.

3:02:25We have been doing a pay as you go system.

3:02:28It is a paid on a monthly basis.

3:02:30There are several things that we can

3:02:31discuss including perhaps increase

3:02:33employee contributions.

3:02:35Again some of that would have to be negotiated

3:02:38with the bargaining units.

3:02:39But that is an option.

3:02:41For example, our public safety folks are already paying

3:02:44a higher cost their pension.

3:02:45I am paying a higher cost of my pension

3:02:48and last year you implemented a 1% increase for management

3:02:51and confidential.

3:02:52So there's some different things we can do there.

3:02:56And again, once we've achieved an appropriate fund balance

3:02:59then we or again, this is the city council can direct us

3:03:04to look into Section 115 trust.

3:03:06As you heard less THE LAST TIME from ANY Jay

3:03:09we want to make sure that we're financially stable.

3:03:12So that would be a fun balance first,

3:03:14and then that is something we can consider.

3:03:17But but again, those are options for payment.

3:03:20But as far as we're not going to be

3:03:23able to end that liability unless we're

3:03:25laying off all of those people.

3:03:27So there is i don't know if you have anything to add on that.

3:03:32I would just regard the respects to Mayor Pro Tem Crandall.

3:03:35I was hoping that before the rhetorical question

3:03:38would the fact of the matter is I'm totally with him.

3:03:41I totally understand where he's coming from on this.

3:03:44He's always been advocating for things to be sent

3:03:47straight to the bottom line.

3:03:48Putting these time Palin's Fidelity

3:03:49money belongs to the city and no one can touch it.

3:03:53No one can take it.

3:03:54It's been signed, sealed.

3:03:56It's it's waiting to be delivered.

3:03:58We know that the state can prevent us from having it.

3:04:00And absolutely no one can prevent us from getting that.

3:04:03And we lost revenues about $2 million

3:04:05in the last couple of years that the law accounts

3:04:07for Carlos the 40 four point eight that the Government has

3:04:11awarded.

3:04:11So bad.

3:04:12I'm no fear of losing any of that.

3:04:15It's just that we need those kind pointed out

3:04:18that needs to be certified and once we

3:04:21certified we get the money.

3:04:22And we've lost 2 million in the previous year.

3:04:24And let's have maybe a couple of million in this year as well.

3:04:26That's four million out of the four

3:04:28point eight right off the top.

3:04:29So that it goes straight to the bottom line.

3:04:31But again, I was kidding when I said

3:04:33I was hoping you do the rhetorical question

3:04:35because I really don't have an answer to that question.

3:04:38Council member Ken Baker thank at present.

3:04:41Council member Rodney before you ask a question on this point.

3:04:44Do we know for certain that the discount

3:04:46rate is going down to seven.

3:04:49I thought that was, we don't know yet.

3:04:53Isn't that still up 7 there is a good chance to go down to seven

3:05:00But it hasn't happened yet it happened.

3:05:03We haven't got the July information you better

3:05:05come through in July if at all.

3:05:08So we'll know it at that point.

3:05:11Again after presentation last council meeting

3:05:14there was some this brief discussion the chances have

3:05:17been dropping even further than six point seven

3:05:20but if you put in six point seven right.

3:05:23We put in six point seven Is that it.

3:05:27OK All right.

3:05:29Council member Rodney gee Mr Mayor

3:05:32I'm very struck by this presentation, I must say.

3:05:37So as local government this is up for the people,

3:05:42by the people kind thing.

3:05:44And I feel that the presentation while it.

3:05:48I'm not disagreeing with with the strategy

3:05:51of how it is we're doing this.

3:05:55What I am very struck by is the inability

3:05:59to really make create clarity and digesting what is pretty

3:06:04complex stuff into something that's

3:06:07digestible for the public to understand.

3:06:10I really think that we need to be doing a better job of this.

3:06:13That's My overall thought.

3:06:14But I have to have some questions

3:06:16so the cost of public issuance for the Tran

3:06:20is listed as one twenty.

3:06:23Can you explain that a little.

3:06:26So we employ a firm or financial advisors in awarding

3:06:32the Tran and the financial advice

3:06:35is the fees associated with that exercise

3:06:38charges approximately twenty five thousand dollars.

3:06:41The rest of it goes towards the actual cost of Kranish

3:06:44wins the legal firm that takes care of the Tran documentation

3:06:49the underwriting firm that does the underwriting of the train.

3:06:51As you know the Tran this year was underwritten by a firm

3:06:55that we've used over the last six years.

3:06:58So they get to share the full fee

3:07:00as opposed to previous about the Krampus place

3:07:02could just one bank.

3:07:03So that was not.

3:07:05No chance of meeting have anything to underwrite on that.

3:07:08So the risk was less at the moment you go public,

3:07:12the is substantial risk that the underwriter has to take

3:07:15and that accordingly increases that fee for underwriting that.

3:07:18So these are the basic component that under twenty thousand

3:07:20dollars into the members of the public

3:07:23you don't know what a Tran loan is.

3:07:24It's essentially as director sire explained it

3:07:27once it's like a credit card.

3:07:29So we have been utilizing a credit card without having

3:07:33any reserves savings.

3:07:35You said in the presentation that it's

3:07:37cost us hardly anything.

3:07:39How much has it actually cost us.

3:07:42So I was alluding to the report by the state.

3:07:45This morning that specific reference to the trend

3:07:48we're currently having.

3:07:49And I pointed out that the cost of the crash was two seventy

3:07:53two thousand dollars and I was you that the Qur'an was

3:07:57issued at a premium.

3:07:58So what does that mean.

3:08:00It means that we asked the public offering for an 8

3:08:04and a half million trend and they actually

3:08:06gave us eight eight point 6, 5 million, which is 160 thousand

3:08:11more above and beyond the amount that we had requested.

3:08:14So what happens with the time in sixty thousand.

3:08:17Use that sixty thousand prepared part of it.

3:08:20Two seventy two thousand cost down because they

3:08:22gave us upfront so that lowers that cost

3:08:25by that substantial amount.

3:08:26Number two.

3:08:27Like I said we set aside money starting

3:08:30in January to fill for fulfill the plan by the end of June.

3:08:34And those moneys are set aside in leaf and the funds.

3:08:37If you didn't have and we wouldn't earn that interest

3:08:40rate to take that interest earning as part of the benefit

3:08:44of having the train your difference your 260 thousand

3:08:47drops down even further.

3:08:49And that's how we end up with a yield

3:08:52off point eighty 5% as disclosed in the air for us.

3:08:56So below the coupon rate trannies 3% to just 3%

3:08:58of 8 and 1/2 million is about one in twenty two thousand

3:09:02you have one sixty thousand that you

3:09:03got up front, which lowers that you earn some money too late.

3:09:07Which loans that even further.

3:09:09So the net cost of the trade is substantial

3:09:11lower than what it was presented in the report that

3:09:14was published this morning.

3:09:15So I just wanted to point that out to you

3:09:18because the folks that did that analysis we put together

3:09:21failed to recognize the importance premium.

3:09:23Then you go public with the tram issuance.

3:09:26So I'm hearing you say that we don't

3:09:28have a number for how much the trend actually costs in this.

3:09:32So it would cost us net 70 thousand dollars and that's

3:09:39so extra line seventy two thousand lets the headline

3:09:42sixty thousand less the eighty thousand

3:09:44that earning interest from leave leaves you with a net of about

3:09:48twenty two thousand in also.

3:09:51So you did bring up fiscal year 18, 19 as being a pretty

3:09:57drastic year for or history.

3:09:59I want remind folks in the public

3:10:01that twenty seventeen was the centennial year for el Serino

3:10:05and I moved tells three Serino about five years ago,

3:10:08I was really excited to attend this the centennial event

3:10:11in three of us park.

3:10:13I was so excited there was free lunch that there was free lunch

3:10:17that was provided to a certain amount of the attendees

3:10:21were there.

3:10:22And I just like now that I'm in this seat.

3:10:26I cannot believe the just it's aggravating to me in a way that

3:10:30it's hard to articulate into words that This is the practice

3:10:33that has been done.

3:10:35And again, I believe we are going in the right direction.

3:10:38I'm going to make sure that we're in the right direction

3:10:41but we have to have ownership and accountability

3:10:44of the mistakes that have been made

3:10:45in the past in order for us to move beyond

3:10:48and to get in a better place.

3:10:50The other thing I do want to bring it back to the audit

3:10:54because that is headline news for today.

3:10:57So for are one of the recommendations

3:11:00that was in the audit was to budget based on department.

3:11:05Are we looking to do that or would

3:11:08that impact our recommendation for budget

3:11:10reductions for next fiscal we.

3:11:13We will.

3:11:14We would like to talk that through with the Fab

3:11:19again, because our comprehensive financial policy is

3:11:23at this point dictates that we do we budget by that budget

3:11:28by fund.

3:11:29And I also reference that in my response

3:11:32in the comprehensive financial policies

3:11:34we follow policy as we currently follow that policy

3:11:37and that we budget by fund.

3:11:39We would like to talk that over with the Fab

3:11:42because, again, they are the ones

3:11:44who review the comprehend financial policy.

3:11:46And so if that is something that they would recommend

3:11:49and it is feasible for all of us to be able to implement it,

3:11:53then that is what we will bring to the city council,

3:11:56the Fed can recommend it to the city council.

3:11:58But that is something that we're absolutely looking at.

3:12:01Yes i definitely want to make sure that we're activating as

3:12:05much as the audit recommendations

3:12:06as possible as we are going through this process.

3:12:10I would like to ask of Fab if they could review

3:12:16a comprehensive financial policy, especially when it

3:12:20comes to reserves if there's a way that it can be modified

3:12:25or beefed up and increased.

3:12:27So that we can have a better sense, especially as council

3:12:31because we do look fab for their counsel and guidance

3:12:35whatever it is that we can do in order to really elevate this

3:12:40because I'm very disappointed that if yes

3:12:43we're being painted a rosy picture.

3:12:45But I can't believe it until I see is really how it feels.

Council questions turned to assumptions that had not yet been settled.

Quinto asked how the city would deal with about $72 million in CalPERS liabilities. The City Manager said the pension bill must be paid and benefits cannot legally be taken away; options include higher employee contributions, negotiated with the bargaining units, and a Section 115 trust once the fund balance is restored. The finance director said the federal money could not be taken away once certified, and that about $4 million of the $4.8 million would replace lost revenue.

On CalPERS: asked whether the discount rate was “going down to seven” percent, staff answered that “we don't know yet… there is a good chance [it will] go down to seven, but it hasn't happened yet.”

The timing: “we haven't got the July information… it'll come through in July if at all.”

And a further possibility raised: “the chances have been dropping even further than six point seven.”

The rate lands at 6.8 percent, confirmed in July, with the payment impact arriving in FY2023-24.

Rudnick said the presentation did not make “pretty complex stuff” digestible for the public. Asked about the TRAN, the finance director said its $272,000 cost was offset by a $160,000 premium and interest earned, leaving a net cost he put at about $22,000.

Rudnick then made a point about a past year.

Her example: 2017 was “the centennial year for El Cerrito,” and she had attended “the centennial event… there was free lunch that was provided to a certain amount of the attendees.”

Her reaction from the dais four years later: “now that I'm in this seat, I cannot believe… it's aggravating to me in a way that it's hard to articulate into words that this is the practice that has been done.”

Fiscal year 2018-19 had been raised as “a pretty drastic year.”

She asked whether the city would budget by department, as the audit recommended; staff said the financial policy calls for budgeting by fund and they would take it to the Financial Advisory Board. She asked the board to review the reserve policy, saying “we're being painted a rosy picture. But I can't believe it until I see” it.

Significant

A councilmember recalls attending a free centennial lunch as a resident in 2017, and says from the dais that she now cannot believe it was city practice. The CalPERS discount rate was still unknown, and lands at 6.8% in July — expanding the unfunded liability.

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3:12:50I need to see that we are taking the actions

3:12:53and again, we're getting there.

3:12:55And there have been so much work that has been done.

3:12:59So it's not like Elsa has been sitting on their laurels

3:13:01just having fun, but this is the steps that we have to take now.

3:13:05Thank you.

3:13:06Sorry for taking up too much time council member Mike

3:13:13Gama Thank you, Mr I have a want to acknowledge the work

3:13:23with the previous council and the R.P. T.

3:13:27And I think that had that not passed,

3:13:30we would be in a much worse situation.

3:13:33And I think that that was kind last revenue fix

3:13:37and now we are stuck with the expense fix

3:13:40and I really want to acknowledge that.

3:13:43And and say this.

3:13:44This is why we're here to make the tough choices

3:13:47because This is not going to get better any other way.

3:13:51Also I want to focus on what we're talking about.

3:13:55We're here with five year projection

3:13:57now up until now, we've really been talking about the slice

3:14:02of this year and the important thing is if we want to stay you

3:14:07know Paul live in terms of fund balance

3:14:09if you look at even the $2 million budget reductions you

3:14:13know we're not making the next five years without that reserve

3:14:17starting to kind of trend back down again.

3:14:20So we really need a test all of our budget assumptions

3:14:23against a full five years, not just this year,

3:14:26not just next year.

3:14:27But this whole five years or else.

3:14:29All the work that we do here starts to erode.

3:14:32And we'll be back in the same place again in 5 years.

3:14:36So I think that's a longer term.

3:14:38This is the long term look, we need to keep that in mind

3:14:42as we make decisions.

3:14:44I do have a couple of questions that came from your staff memo.

3:14:48One is.

3:14:49And I just want to get the questions on.

3:14:52You can respond in total, but you had reference something

3:14:56about the county pool of receipts

3:14:59and that there were some decision called Wayfair

3:15:01versus Dakota Supreme Court that is going

3:15:05to cause that sales tax to level out or sales

3:15:09tax revenues level out.

3:15:11So I would like to understand what that is about in the memo.

3:15:15You also referred to the R PTT real property transfer tax

3:15:21and that you mentioned that the source helps

3:15:24to alleviate over time costs.

3:15:27And I was wondering if there was something some policy that said

3:15:31that our PTT was earmarked for overtime

3:15:33costs because I didn't see that anywhere.

3:15:36And it was slightly when the other things that I would like

3:15:44to see and that wasn't there is some sensitivity testing

3:15:48around the calipers rate.

3:15:50So you know you're mentioning just before that it's

3:15:53took six point seven the presentation

3:15:56at the last council meeting.

3:15:58It was talked about that.

3:16:00It was going to go as high as 7 1/2% What's what number you

3:16:07know what happens if there's a 2% shift

3:16:09from what we're assuming here.

3:16:12And what how does that affect the bottom line.

3:16:15That's the kind analysis.

3:16:17I hope the fab can request and take a look at.

3:16:22So we know what we're our swing is

3:16:26that's a pretty big change at 2% either way

3:16:30on that particular number.

3:16:32And then also going back to the fiscal policy.

3:16:36So we have this fiscal policy that clearly hasn't

3:16:40helped us keep our reserve.

3:16:42It hasn't.

3:16:43It clearly hasn't helped us do these things.

3:16:47And so I would like the took seriously

3:16:50consider bringing back something more rigorous than Paul see.

3:16:54So no is, should we have an ordinance

3:16:58So we don't allow ourselves to a little bit of reserve you know

3:17:09just if we couldn't trust ourselves

3:17:12and like when times are really good.

3:17:14How do we dress ourselves you know to make

3:17:17better decisions in the future.

3:17:18Let's put some guardrails on that.

3:17:20And that's if that is an ordinance

3:17:22and if that's what we need we should have that.

3:17:26And it should cover the reserves and some cities

3:17:29to have a balanced budget requirement

3:17:31and maybe we need to look at that.

3:17:35I don't want to go all drastic but it

3:17:38like if the past is any indication,

3:17:41we need to have these guardrails in place

3:17:44in order to make sure that all this hard work that we do now

3:17:48continues.

3:17:49So no council and no staff have to go

3:17:52through this painful exercise again.

3:17:56So I'd like to get the questions answered.

3:18:01Thank you.

3:18:02Let me jump doesn't any of these other Ken

3:18:06so starting the Fed decision as it's fondly referred to that's

3:18:11been an online sales text and the taxes that put Brad Karsh

3:18:17back with the counties and cities and states

3:18:20and others that initiated that conversation that trade,

3:18:24for example.

3:18:25So as I pointed out h CEO and company help

3:18:28us forecast our sales taxes.

3:18:31So they forecast sales taxes for the next five years

3:18:35and but they've noted is that in the last year

3:18:38and a half due to the pandemic, we've

3:18:42had a surge in online sales, which

3:18:45has resulted in an expanded pool county pool

3:18:48that the city benefits from.

3:18:50And what they anticipate is that that thing

3:18:53will taper off if that decision generated sales.

3:18:56Once we start recovering from this pandemic,

3:18:59people will start going back to bricks

3:19:02and mortar you can do to buy things online.

3:19:05No doubt.

3:19:05But the related, which the county pool is generated taper

3:19:09off and that part of the assumptions that they've built

3:19:11into their five year sales forecast and I may have feared

3:19:15to mention to you that HDL, which gives us

3:19:18this forecast actually gets to an extremely granular level

3:19:21of detail really comes to making forecast be take it right down

3:19:25to be I would say a store front on fouling down or something

3:19:29like that, right down to side apples

3:19:31and how much bad apples expects to make

3:19:33and has made in the past and how they have hope to have more

3:19:37sales taxes from the violin store, and so on so they

3:19:41take it down to where depth.

3:19:43And this is how they make their forecast

3:19:45the creative model they share that information with us.

3:19:48So that's the comment that you referenced in the staff report

3:19:51decision that flows that very leading cities, states,

3:19:54and others getting a piece of the action that was coming

3:19:58through from sales taxes generated through online sales

3:20:00settles one part of the question.

3:20:03And I mean, I think our focus the six questions.

3:20:07But as far as the real property transfer tax

3:20:10that money is not earmarked that is General fund revenues.

3:20:14And so that money goes toward anything

3:20:16any eligible General expense.

3:20:18The reason that we reference the overtime cost

3:20:21is that in the previous fiscal years

3:20:24with particularly with the vacant positions

3:20:25that were in the fire department overtime exceeded budget.

3:20:29And so you're absolutely right.

3:20:31It is a good thing that we have had

3:20:34that particular revenue in order to help alleviate

3:20:36some of those increases.

3:20:38But now that we do expect that to level off.

3:20:41Now that we have filled those vacancies

3:20:43we just wanted to make sure that it

3:20:45was a note that this is essentially, as you

3:20:48said this has helped save us.

3:20:51So that is a good thing.

3:20:53I'm not sure about another.

3:20:56I know that the policy question policy versus ordinance again,

3:21:00this is something that the Fab can discuss.

3:21:03I would just point out and share this with a couple of you

3:21:08that the.

3:21:09The question is enforcement The question is the ordinances

3:21:12our code of our code our municipal code

3:21:15is meant to be more for a public facing

3:21:18or for those things that affect the public mostly

3:21:22but the other additional part of that

3:21:24is what happens then if it's broken

3:21:27and that is the question.

3:21:30So would it be right now it's either

3:21:33an infraction or a misdemeanor.

3:21:36You know the city council can choose to bypass

3:21:39that if they wanted to, for me.

3:21:43It doesn't You know, I This is my personal opinion at just

3:21:48in thinking about this, I don't think

3:21:50the issue is whether or not it's a policy or an ordinance.

3:21:54The issue is that we haven't been falling and right away.

3:21:57We don't have the.

3:21:59We are not we don't have the ability to follow

3:22:02or we would already be working from behind.

3:22:05So that is just a consideration that we need to have in mind

3:22:09that the real issue here is that we need to prioritize

3:22:13following minimum 10% at policy resolution ordinance

3:22:16state law, whatever that is.

3:22:19That's The problem is that we've not been meeting yet.

3:22:23And that what I want to hear from the council tonight

3:22:27as far as direction.

3:22:28And I'm hearing it, which is a great thing.

3:22:31I I'm not expecting anything different,

3:22:33but that we as staff are committing that you have given

3:22:36us that priority that our financial sustainable

3:22:38depends on the fact that we need to make our minimum goals.

3:22:41So you know again, I'm happy to talk with the Fab about that.

3:22:45And I'm happy to look at what other cities do.

3:22:48I think that that's usually a good gauge of how

3:22:51just comparing ourselves to what other cities do

3:22:53and how they do it.

3:22:55What best practices are.

3:22:57But certainly the real issue is that, as you said council

3:23:00member, we need to follow the policy,

3:23:03we need to follow that minimum.

3:23:05However it is encapsulated i would

3:23:07just add on the issue on the question of ordinance is good.

3:23:11It's important to remember that ultimately,

3:23:13it's the city council that makes the decision on the budget.

Motoyama credited the previous council's real property transfer tax — “had that not passed, we would be in a much worse situation” — and said even the $2 million scenario showed the reserve trending back down, so assumptions should be tested “against a full five years, not just this year, not just next year.”

She then checked a claim in the staff memo against the city's policies.

What the memo said: that the real property transfer tax “helps to alleviate overtime costs.”

Her question: “I was wondering if there was… some policy that said that [the] RPTT was earmarked for overtime costs, because I didn't see that anywhere.”

Staff confirmed the transfer tax is not earmarked — it is general fund revenue — and said the memo mentioned overtime because fire overtime had exceeded budget while positions were vacant, and the tax had helped offset it.

She also asked about a legal decision affecting revenue — “Wayfair versus [South] Dakota, Supreme Court” — and what it meant for sales tax levelling out.

Staff explained that the decision lets cities and states share in online sales tax; the pandemic surge in online sales expanded the county pool, and HdL expects that to taper off as “people will start going back to bricks and mortar.”

She also asked for sensitivity testing on the CalPERS rate, and whether the reserve policy should become an ordinance, or include a balanced-budget requirement, since the policy “clearly hasn't helped us keep our reserve.” The City Manager said the issue is not policy versus ordinance but that the minimum has not been followed.

On the reserve policy, the discussion turned to whether it should be an ordinance.

Staff's answer sets the limit: “it's important to remember that ultimately it's the city council that makes the decision on the budget. So whether or not the budget meets the 10% reserve goal is ultimately a decision for” the Council.

Comparing to other cities was described as “a good gauge… what best practices are.”

Significant

A councilmember asked whether transfer tax revenue was earmarked for overtime; staff confirmed it is unrestricted general fund revenue that had helped offset fire overtime. A reserve ordinance is discussed here and proposed again by a resident in June 2022; staff note that the Council can always decide the budget regardless.

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3:23:17So whether or not you the budget meets the 10% reserve goal

3:23:20is ultimately a decision for the city council

3:23:23even if this even if the city manager brings forward

3:23:26a budget that shows less than that, it's ultimately set up

3:23:29to the city council to provide the direction

3:23:31say no go change it and bring back a budget

3:23:34that actually meets that reserve goal adopting an ordinance

3:23:38won't change that.

3:23:40Ultimately the authority rests with the City Council

3:23:42with city council wants to adopt a budget

3:23:45within hours of less than 10%.

3:23:48The city council can just repeal the ordinance.

3:23:51So what I'd say is that the ordinance itself

3:23:54is not actually a guardrail against City

3:23:56Council's own decisions.

3:23:57The ultimate decisions on the budget

3:23:59rests with the City Council and just to get back

3:24:07to your question Councilman moderate I'm

3:24:10on the sensitivity analysis.

3:24:12All I might mention here that forecasting is margin

3:24:18as it assigns and County and I have settled down

3:24:23butted heads if we'd better.

3:24:25No different times taking each of these lines

3:24:29and taking each of these apart.

3:24:32So so that when we first initially started

3:24:34this whole thing we had a fork that's based on seven

3:24:38different scenarios extend as much as $3 million

3:24:40reduction not just to it.

3:24:42So he didn't hold assets to do and say we're going up there.

3:24:46We actually looked at half a million all the way up

3:24:49to $3 million reductions.

3:24:50And the impact it could have on servicer across the city

3:24:53if that was put in place.

3:24:55So that was the conversation we had.

3:24:57But coming back to your question,

3:24:59on the countless sensitivity.

3:25:01That's a pretty sensitive kind of analogous

3:25:03that can only be done and takes another

3:25:05doing the calipers website permit certain cities to do it

3:25:09themselves.

3:25:10But unfortunately we are poorly such that it is not our risk

3:25:14pool only such that that tone does

3:25:15not lend itself to the risk for that Elsa credo has.

3:25:19So you can't just jump in there and make the changes to find

3:25:22out what it does if the discount rate were to drop to live

3:25:26in the discount rate goes down, it's worse for the city

3:25:29when it goes up.

3:25:30It's better for the city.

3:25:31So seven point five would be a lovely discount rate

3:25:34to have anything above that.

3:25:35But six points that when we take it.

3:25:37And if we put it up to 6% we've estimated that that would

3:25:40hit the customer as much as another extra half

3:25:43a million dollars.

3:25:44So within a plus or minus half.

3:25:46So these are calls that we had to make when

3:25:49we put this document together and then just so I said,

3:25:52can squeeze into a Forward looking five year

3:25:55forecast without keeping in mind that we could be totally

3:25:59off completely off as we had seen happen in 2021

3:26:03due to their core we think.

3:26:04Right.

3:26:05So we've done this back in 2018 and all those forecasts

3:26:07have to be thought of and that's why

3:26:09we came back with the revised forecast of these assumptions.

3:26:12Again to remind everyone that we are still pandemic,

3:26:14we are still not out of the deal.

3:26:17Are not really sure How is that some of these revenue sources

3:26:20will happen.

3:26:20The recreation programs, for example,

3:26:22we are hoping that they bounce right back back to 18,

3:26:2619 levels preferably 19 20 but at least 18,

3:26:2919 Well that's not a guarantee.

3:26:31And the goal here is to try and fund those programs in such

3:26:34a fashion that we are prepared prudently to take the boating

3:26:37and along with it.

3:26:38If it does happen in our favor.

3:26:40So that's the goal.

3:26:41On the one hand we'd like to make sure that we are fully

3:26:45funded across all departments leads us to question

3:26:47and respond just to council member and mix question

3:26:50about budgeting by departments.

3:26:51We do budget by departments.

3:26:53If you take a look at our comprehensive annual financial

3:26:56report that has general fund budget through actual

3:26:58it is all by department.

3:27:00But the question really is do we publish

3:27:02that information in the budget book by department.

3:27:05Yes.

3:27:06If you go down to the budget book each of the departments

3:27:09budgets are in there.

3:27:11But the policy as Karen pointed out

3:27:13the comprehensive financial policy, which requires

3:27:15to present a balanced budget to Kalamazoo

3:27:17permits us to do so at the funding level as opposed

3:27:21to the Department level.

3:27:22So the question is do we need to drill

3:27:25down further and come back to council

3:27:27balanced departmental level.

3:27:28So that's the real question that needs to be answered.

3:27:31And the Fab bill definitely look at it,

3:27:33and we'll bring it back to council

3:27:35for a further discussion on that.

3:27:38But that's where we are operating policy.

3:27:41The policy says present a balanced budget

3:27:43to Council which we've done every single year.

3:27:46The policy stays make sure that you've balanced

3:27:48the budget at the funding level, which

3:27:51you've done every single year.

3:27:53So we've kept the policy.

3:27:54It's just that.

3:27:55How we present that information within the policy

3:27:58that it's done at the departmental level.

3:28:00That's where the challenge lies.

3:28:02And with that I just take it offline.

3:28:06Follow up.

3:28:07Come from that Marte on I. Fine with those answers.

3:28:12I do apologize.

3:28:14I got booted off in Zoom for a couple minutes

3:28:19while Well the manager was responding.

3:28:21But I will follow up.

3:28:23We only have a half an hour or so.

3:28:26We want to get some.

3:28:27So we're not going to repeat everything.

3:28:30Council member Abel Do you have any questions.

3:28:35If this presentation army can.

3:28:39Can we get a copy of this presentation.

3:28:42Sure because it's really difficult To do it.

3:28:49Without anything into many tables,

3:28:51you have a copy of the presentation

3:28:54with the supplemental materials where that

3:28:57were delivered to you today.

3:29:00The supplemental materials.

3:29:02And it's also posted on the city's Web site.

3:29:06And that's the normal procedure right.

3:29:09I asked Well it's a document.

3:29:12I don't know it was you know.

3:29:15You know what I've been gone all day first

3:29:19of all, that I have I unable to find any evidence anything that

3:29:25looks like that was delivered.

3:29:32Q after 4:00 p.m. today, sir.

3:29:35So there wouldn't be any possibility

3:29:38my having read it anyway.

3:29:41Right.

3:29:42I mean there wouldn't because I wasn't there,

3:29:48but any question possible to get things.

3:29:53Like by the day before something never possible.

3:29:58We do include presentations when they have been put together

3:30:01in the packets when they are published that Thursday prior

3:30:05to the meeting.

3:30:07Anything that's not at prepared in time for that publication

3:30:10is provided with supplemental materials a deadline.

3:30:13The only thing that I had was this document gives you can

3:30:20that they should have been done on Phillip

3:30:22in there that was labeled as supplemental materials says.

3:30:28But I'm not sure it was in any general questions

3:30:34from what you've heard so far.

3:30:38Process.

3:30:41I can't I'm I mean, I need I sort to look at the materials

3:30:45okay.

3:30:45It's hard to ask questions.

3:30:47And then you can we will get back to you.

3:30:50Again if I might just ask.

3:30:52I have three just very general questions I wanted to ask

3:30:56kind of higher questions.

3:30:58And I was one.

3:31:00And we talked about guardrails protections

3:31:03some of the ordinance versus policy is part of our goal

3:31:08is to get back to our bond rating.

3:31:10I know it's a major goal that we have here.

3:31:13And I want to just ask Karen and What do you think are the three

3:31:17or four major gold major things we need to do to get our bond

3:31:21rating back up and does an ordinance is that worth more

3:31:25than just policy.

3:31:26But what is it that we need to do to get

3:31:30our bond rating up and say.

3:31:33I mean, the fund balance the lack fund

3:31:36balance has been that's tricky.

3:31:38Everything that we have heard from all of the bond

3:31:42traders I don't for them.

3:31:44I don't believe it matters how we can Tom

3:31:47or what the whatever the legislation is that dictates

3:31:51that what they're looking for is a fund

3:31:53balance, which we have not had a positive fund balance.

3:31:57And in fact, we have not met those goals in several years.

3:32:01That is the key Yeah.

3:32:05If I may just jump in here.

3:32:08So can I have been interviewed by the credit rating agency

3:32:13step aside for global in their final exit interview.

3:32:17Babe essentially talked about what

3:32:20that report would look like.

3:32:22And it's pretty clear from their questioning line

3:32:24and they give us at least a question to

3:32:27for part of the interview.

3:32:29It's pretty clear that we presented them with a five

3:32:32forecast, we presented them with balanced budgets

3:32:35with cash for us with all the other things.

3:32:37The only thing that's lacking seriously lacking

3:32:39is a fund balance and they ask.

3:32:43What's your plan to get this fund balance back

3:32:45to policy goal and we say we point

3:32:47them to the five year forecast.

3:32:49But that's not good enough.

3:32:51You have to show them of the fund balance improvement

3:32:54and like I will submitted in the past.

3:32:56If we get back to the premise 16 fund

3:32:58balance of about $2 million.

3:33:00I would expect the credit rating to bounce

3:33:03right back regardless of everything

3:33:05else that's been going on.

3:33:07So we had big news with our audit from the state auditor

3:33:12today.

3:33:13And I was just wondering in the terms of a five year plan

3:33:18is a lot of recommendations and a lot of promises

3:33:21we've made to change course and report back to them.

3:33:25When do we start factoring in some of the value savings.

3:33:30When will we start to see those things are

3:33:33we will be discussing those things

3:33:35when we come up with our budget because one of the great ideas.

3:33:39They had that I saw was that healthy retirement cost.

3:33:43And averaging that out and making savings from that.

3:33:47When do you guys generally see from what we have to do that.

3:33:52We can start factoring those recommendation in again, that

3:33:56is actually one of the recommended ones

3:33:58that I talked with one of the members of the team about

3:34:02is one of the ideas that we were looking to implement.

3:34:06So they included that as a recommendation because that's

3:34:09something that we have been discussing internally and Alex,

3:34:12you can jump in if you like Alex as

3:34:14as our assistant city manager.

3:34:16But she is also our interim HR manager at this point.

3:34:21And so what our plan is to work with our insurance broker

3:34:25what we need to do is determine what the delta is between what

3:34:30the current employees are paying for their health care

3:34:34and how much the retiree are costing

3:34:37through their health care.

3:34:39And again, to review the city does not provide paid retiree

3:34:44health care to retirees what we what they are allowed to do

3:34:48is stay on the city's plan at no cost to the city.

3:34:52So the retirees once they retire,

3:34:54they can continue on our plan, as

3:34:57long as they pay the premiums.

3:34:59However because all of the current employees

3:35:03will essentially their health costs tend

3:35:06to be less than older folks sorry,

3:35:11it's just the reality that I don't take not retirees tend

3:35:16to have higher health costs.

3:35:18So there is definitely a subsidy there.

3:35:20So there's the difference.

3:35:22And that is what is dictated within our financial reports

3:35:25as what's called our open liability one of the ways

3:35:28we can alleviate the costs is to perhaps consider charging

3:35:33retirees an additional fee.

3:35:36So make sure that it is indeed no cost to the city

3:35:40And so Alex is working with our financial broker

3:35:44to determine what that Delta is.

3:35:46And then we can look to implement that.

3:35:49So again, this already begun.

3:35:51And those are already being taken care of your family.

3:35:55It's going to be an ongoing process.

An exchange on retiree health explained a liability in the city's accounts.

The arrangement: “the retirees, once they retire, they can continue on our plan, as long as they pay the premiums.”

The reason: “all of the current employees… their health costs tend to be less than older folks… retirees tend to have higher health costs. So there is definitely a subsidy there.”

What that produces in the accounts: “that is what is dictated within our financial reports as what's called our OPEB liability.”

One remedy named: “perhaps consider charging retirees an additional” amount.

Before that exchange came a procedural complaint from Abelson: a document had been delivered “after 4:00 p.m. today,” so “there wouldn't be any possibility [of] my having read it.”

Staff explained the schedule: presentations go in the packet published “that Thursday prior,” and anything later comes as supplemental materials.

The councilmember's position: “it's hard to ask questions” about a document received hours before the meeting.

Earlier, the finance director said the CalPERS rate could not be modeled precisely for a pooled plan, but a drop to 6% would cost roughly another half million dollars, and that staff had looked at reductions from half a million to $3 million. The city budgets by department in its reports, but the financial policy requires balance only at the fund level. Asked by the Mayor what would restore the bond rating, staff said the rating agency was looking for fund balance, “the only thing that's lacking.”

Significant

Retirees may stay on the city's plan at no cost to the city, but their premiums are pooled with younger, cheaper workers, producing the OPEB liability. Staff were working with the insurance broker to measure the difference, with a possible added charge for retirees. A councilmember also reports receiving a budget document after 4 p.m. on the day of the meeting.

27 “We cannot gaslight” captions 4021–4200

3:35:57You're our asset on these recommendations

3:35:59that you're about to proceed on.

3:36:01And we will get reports back on these.

3:36:04Right.

3:36:04That would be important.

3:36:06We would we would refer to that in our corrective action plan.

3:36:09It would be noted in our fiscal recovery plan.

3:36:12All of those things that we are indeed

3:36:14as I said in my response a lot of this,

3:36:18we have already actually undertaken or begun

3:36:20to implement may have to do that.

3:36:23My last question here.

3:36:24Just very generally is in the agenda item or the report

3:36:28that we got it says that it's a goal of our city to achieve

3:36:33a general fund annual operating as our obviously,

3:36:36we've talked about this 10% of the projected general fund

3:36:40operating expenditures in each fiscal year and it says,

3:36:44you say the city has not achieve this goal in several years.

3:36:48I know it's redundant to say this,

3:36:51but what's the reason for that character.

3:36:53What do you think the reason that we

3:36:56have achieved that became has the budgets

3:37:02haven't we done that.

3:37:04Why.

3:37:05I again, this is the budgets that

3:37:08have been passed in the past several years

3:37:12have not considered the fund balance

3:37:15as part of the budget process.

3:37:18That's I can decide the decisions that have been made

3:37:21thus far that have depleted our fund balance again,

3:37:25that prior Council's and the prior administration

3:37:28has has made was meant to maintain service.

3:37:32And some dips within the fund balance

3:37:34included some issues with our financial reports

3:37:37as the auditor point it out to you in 2016 17

3:37:42with the payroll accrual.

3:37:44There were some unbuttoned major funding issues

3:37:47such as the senior center portables those types of things

3:37:52were all decisions that were made with the city council.

3:37:55So this wasn't these were not made under the radar.

3:37:59They were made these made within the budget.

3:38:02So but but again, these were I would venture

3:38:06to say that we were focused.

3:38:09We collectively were focused more on

3:38:12on trying to make the budgets balance

3:38:14as opposed to the bottom line.

3:38:16And that has been to our detriment.

3:38:19And so again, shifting the culture we

3:38:21would like to focus on the bottom line.

3:38:24And get our budgets to match that so that we

3:38:27are back to financial health.

3:38:29Again I don't you know I can't speak

3:38:31for the former administration, even though I

3:38:34was the assistant city manager.

3:38:36I you know it is a very different place

3:38:38to be the manager than the assistant city manager

3:38:41and all this responsibility falls on me and all of this.

3:38:45All of these things that I have had to make sure

3:38:49that I'm responsible for that.

3:38:51I'm responsible to bring to you and that this council is

3:38:55holding me and our staff accountable or that.

3:38:58So again, these are decisions that we're made in the past.

3:39:02I don't believe they were made they weren't made

3:39:05with bad intentions, the intention was to try to provide

3:39:08as much services as possible without disruption

3:39:10to our public again, our public is very passionate about things

3:39:14that are important to them.

3:39:15We have been trying to honor that.

3:39:18The unfortunate reality is we're not able to do that right now.

3:39:22And until we restore fiscal health.

3:39:24We we just have to we have to be mindful of what

3:39:28our actual priority is at this time.

3:39:30Thank you.

3:39:31And does giving back the financial health

3:39:33mean being a full service city and at the end of the day,

3:39:38your honor that is up to the city council

3:39:41to redefine what that means.

3:39:43And we've got a half an hour Janet said council member.

3:39:47ABRAMSON Do you have any questions before we

3:39:49stop to the even a reason now.

3:39:53I found.

3:39:54Why I couldn't find it because it was buried.

3:39:58OK.

3:39:59Cert type stuff.

3:40:00But I have it now.

3:40:02Thank you.

3:40:04But no questions.

3:40:05No question.

3:40:06I'll see if I have questions.

3:40:09I was like, I felt like I needed to read

3:40:14this thing in depth before I came up with questions

3:40:19that Mayor campaign.

3:40:21I think I need to.

3:40:24Thank you Mayor.

3:40:27Looking at medical expenses, insurance

3:40:30and looking at how that skyrockets year after year

3:40:35after year looking at our yet dealing with people that are

3:40:43out on Disability that we have not looked at what we

3:40:48can do to save money on that.

3:40:52I would love and Karen, you know I've

3:40:56been asking since 2018 let's get a have this checked out.

3:41:00Let's out this audited to see if we can save

3:41:04some money and our insurance costs

3:41:06compared to other cities or Adeline

3:41:09and it would be great to have this audited

3:41:13and see how we can save some money.

3:41:16Looking at worker's comp that is all again.

3:41:20I'm looking at that at that.

3:41:23That's a huge, huge number.

3:41:25So I want to have I want to make sure that we have direct.

3:41:30So in the future, we can have all this checked out.

3:41:34It has never been checked out you have to look

3:41:37and worked with the same vendor and there

3:41:40are other vendors around.

3:41:42And many of the cities that have had the same vendor

3:41:45that we have add have changed.

3:41:47So this is something that needs to be done.

3:41:51And it needs to be done every five to seven years.

3:41:55And that know I don't know when it's done.

3:41:58But I've been asking since 2018 let's

3:42:00just do this and just compare.

3:42:02And I know we will save some money council member Rudnick

3:42:11karen did you write staff reports when you were

3:42:15assistant city manager and.

3:42:19Yes.

3:42:21Were there multiple budget impacts that were outlined

3:42:26in those staff reports yes.

3:42:31OK.

3:42:31So what's really important for us

3:42:34as council members is understanding that I'm really

3:42:36glad This is getting a bring me back to the public

3:42:39is that the way it should be we were elected by the public

3:42:42to help make these decisions make sound decisions.

3:42:45So we really have to be so mindful of this

3:42:50and i'm really frustrated by the lack of ownership

3:42:54in this conference section and I really

3:42:56hope that, again, this is the NEW DAY EVERY DAY IS A NEW DAY

3:43:01but we can not sugarcoat.

3:43:03We could not Gaslight.

3:43:04We cannot do this with our budget because this this is

3:43:08our livelihoods This is people who live in the community,

3:43:13their livelihood.

3:43:14I'm really just this whole conversation

3:43:16has been so frustrating because I don't have words right now

3:43:21because this is like this is a community.

3:43:26It and it's our fiduciary duty and it feels like there's just

3:43:31been a lack of a thoughtful even when just describing

3:43:35the budget versus funds.

3:43:37It's like you're trying paints a picture of what

3:43:41would make us happy.

3:43:43I don't really want to hear what makes B happy.

3:43:46I want to hear what's accurate.

3:43:49That's that's sorry.

3:43:50I just I'm a little miffed Is there any public comment city

3:43:56clerk is Mayor we do have a couple requests to speak,

3:44:00I will just take this opportunity to,

3:44:03again share information about the comments that were received

3:44:06prior to the deadline today were posted online and provided

3:44:10directly to the council members for this agenda item

3:44:13we received public comment from Michael and Marilyn Amen Jim de

3:44:18la Gonesse Jen bridges and more assisting where and if

3:44:22any members on the call who would provide comment.

3:44:25Now would be the time to raise your hand to request to speak

3:44:29and Mayor has sent a request to speak at this time.

3:44:33If you could please confirm the 3 minute time limit

3:44:36What time is it now it is ten thirty six Oh yes

3:44:403 minutes is good with 4.

3:44:42Thank you can go to our first speaker, which is I rare.

3:44:47I really can and mute and begin your time now.

3:44:50Thank you.

3:44:51I think manage needs to start providing detailed Excel

3:44:54spreadsheets instead of inadequate PDF files

3:44:57is 10% an appropriate go shouldn't

3:45:00it be at 17% that's two months.

3:45:04In a recent budget worsens the city aiming for 15%

3:45:09though many cities have reserves more than 20%.

3:45:13I think we need an ordinance that clearly states

3:45:16the county's budget goes, how does

3:45:19the LSAT plus the park project fit into your projections.

3:45:24I'm still waiting to hear how the city has been paying what

The Mayor asked why the 10% goal had not been met. The City Manager said past budgets “have not considered the fund balance”; decisions made with the Council, such as the senior center portables, and financial reporting problems such as the 2016-17 payroll accrual had depleted it, and “we collectively were focused more on… trying to make the budgets balance as opposed to the bottom line.” She said she could not speak for the former administration, “even though I was the assistant city manager,” and that the decisions were not made with bad intentions.

Quinto asked that the city's insurance and workers' compensation costs be audited and compared with other cities, which he said he had been asking for since 2018.

Rudnick asked whether the City Manager had written staff reports with budget impacts when she was assistant city manager; she said yes. Rudnick then spoke about the Council's own duty.

Her starting point: the presentation had been brought “back to the public” — “that [is] the way it should be. We were elected by the public to help make these decisions, make sound decisions.”

Then the objection: “I'm really frustrated by the lack of ownership.”

And the standard she set: “we cannot sugarcoat. We cannot gaslight. We cannot do this with our budget, because this is our livelihoods. This is people who live in the city.”

Her qualification: “every day is a new day” — but she adds that “this whole conversation has been so frustrating,” and “I don't really want to hear what makes [me] happy. I want to hear what's accurate.”

Public comment on the item followed.

Significant

“We cannot sugarcoat. We cannot gaslight” — a councilmember setting the standard for how the budget is presented to residents, on the night the audit published, and citing a “lack of ownership.”

28 “Not ones designed to” captions 4201–4420

3:45:28the trend given its low general fund balance and views

3:45:32management seems to think everyone

3:45:34is being inaccurate or unfair.

3:45:36But isn't it true that managing predictions

3:45:38are often overly rosy.

3:45:41The reason why Elsa Reno's credit rating keeps

3:45:44on dropping what is long range liability mean,

3:45:48how it measured since.

3:45:50And the organizational chart.

3:45:53Council is above management.

3:45:55And it's supposed to represent the public.

3:45:58I recommended the council formed citizen committee

3:46:00and otherwise engage the public more than once a year

3:46:04or so last year at the public forum.

3:46:07We were promised the dedicated Web site where questions would

3:46:11be answered that never occurred while also

3:46:14taking public comment at ten thirty p.m.

3:46:17This respects the public and we don't really have

3:46:21any interaction a question.

3:46:23Why weren't adequate cuts made with the first going concern

3:46:27state and that occurred more than two

3:46:29years ago where was in independent audit

3:46:32are proven wrong.

3:46:35I support cutting management positions and Compean

3:46:38and their compensate.

3:46:40Before cutting lower level positions Can

3:46:43you talk about overriding budget limits

3:46:46as mentioned in the state audit board.

3:46:49By the way bond rating is not BBB it's BBB minus

3:46:54but for short term notes Rosarito is rated as speak too.

3:46:58I think we were once rated 1 plus.

3:47:01Thank thank you very much.

3:47:03Thank you next because to me saying certain e you can meet

3:47:08and begin your time now denise you

3:47:16can end mute and begin your time now restart the clock.

3:47:22Okay.

3:47:22Thank you very much.

3:47:24I agree with much of what the council members have said here

3:47:28tonight on this discussion.

3:47:30And I want to thank the council members

3:47:32for their direct feedback.

3:47:34It's not reassuring yet because the devil's in the details.

3:47:37And we need to see what the actions are behind it For me, I

3:47:43spent a career working on restructuring

3:47:45and I am disheartened when I see these little tiny changes which

3:47:49add up to as I've said earlier nibbling on cheese.

3:47:53There is no big changes here that will successfully guide us

3:47:57through a restructuring that will

3:47:58put us on a path to recovery.

3:48:01And I think that that's what the guide

3:48:04has to be from the Council to management

3:48:07that we have to do that.

3:48:09The city really has three responsibilities and only

3:48:12three responsibilities.

3:48:13You have the responsible for public works.

3:48:15You have the responsive military for public finance

3:48:18and for public safety and we need

3:48:21to get those priorities straight because no one can come in here

3:48:24and provide those.

3:48:25It's only the city that can provide

3:48:27those changes in public safety with Brown

3:48:31outs are absolutely ludicrous.

3:48:33We could all lose our fire fire insurance and homeowner's

3:48:36policy overnight.

3:48:38And that would be devastating to our community.

3:48:41It would hike up all of our costs dramatically

3:48:45and it wouldn't just apply to people in the hills.

3:48:47The way that the insurance companies cut right now

3:48:50or do non renewals not cancellations non renewals

3:48:54is by zip code.

3:48:55We have all the same zip code in the city.

3:48:58So anyone flats you would get cut to and that

3:49:01would be devastating for everyone.

3:49:03Finally if your assumptions are also including sales tax

3:49:09revenue for autos please keep in mind that we're

3:49:12on the cusp of a global semi conductor shortage

3:49:15and it is estimated in the I.T. industry

3:49:18that it could take years to recover from that.

3:49:22The auto industry is already predicting this year that it's

3:49:25going to lose sixty billion in revenues

3:49:28and several auto manufacturers of our art

3:49:31are already idling plant because parts are not available.

3:49:34And everything and a car repair today

3:49:36has the semiconductor are almost everything.

3:49:39So please be mindful of that in your budget.

3:49:42If you haven't made an allowance for that

3:49:45you should be forecasting a downturn

3:49:47in auto sales revenues.

3:49:49Finally again, thank you for your service

3:49:51to the council to our community.

3:49:53We need you.

3:49:54We need you to be more than our advocate.

3:49:57We need you to do the checks and balances

3:50:01And please keep in mind is as Ira said we should have

3:50:05a public board or council that works with you on our own ideas

3:50:09and not just leaves it up to management who's really not

3:50:12fairly representing our ideas.

3:50:13Thank you.

3:50:16And next because Dan Schulman and you should

3:50:20be able to unmute and begin your time now Dan, can you and mute

3:50:27Can you hear me.

3:50:30Yes, we can.

3:50:33Sure.

3:50:33OK.

3:50:34Thanks so much for the great discussion

3:50:37and thanks to counsel and staff for

3:50:39working so hard to solve this in watching the presentation.

3:50:43I didn't one of the things that concern

3:50:46me was I didn't hear a lot about a change in approach,

3:50:50especially given the auditor's report that I think

3:50:53is suggesting a number of changes in approach.

3:50:56So I hope we can get there.

3:50:58And then a few other thoughts from the scenarios

3:51:01presented as unfortunate as it is, I think.

3:51:06I hope the council.

3:51:07I think should advocate for at least $2 million.

3:51:10If not more in the permanent cuts

3:51:13just because you know I want Serino to have a reserve

3:51:16and not be close to the blue that beware that somebody else

3:51:22mentioned one point.

3:51:24And I hope that staff can offer multiple plausible and

3:51:29realistic scenarios and not ones that

3:51:32are designed to be rejected.

3:51:34And things like that.

3:51:36I hope that there's multiple realistic scenarios

3:51:38that can be presented.

3:51:39The state auditor's report.

3:51:41I came out today.

3:51:42So I didn't.

3:51:43And I was pretty visited I didn't really intend to read it

3:51:46too much, but I saw I saw salaries mentioned a few times

3:51:50I saw the management structure and positions mentioned

3:51:53a few times I saw police and fire mentioned quite a bit,

3:51:57although it did not mention closing a station.

3:52:00So I hope council you can direct staff

3:52:03to look some of those suggestions

3:52:05because if there's ways to achieve

3:52:08some budgetary savings those departments

3:52:10without closing a station.

3:52:12I think that's somewhere looking at I noticed that they didn't

3:52:17criticize childcare, but that was

3:52:19worth noting that in criticize that they

3:52:21criticized funny things.

3:52:22But not that.

3:52:23So that.

3:52:24That's good to know.

3:52:26I think they mentioned charging more

3:52:27for the swim center for Senior Services

3:52:29and I guess worth looking at that perhaps.

3:52:32I guess one other just process point is I hope that staff

3:52:36and can talk to the community and council with greater nuance

3:52:40about the impacts of cuts.

3:52:43I feel like sometimes it's a lot of talking points that

3:52:48are a little more generic and i think there's just

3:52:51more nuance to how these things will

3:52:53actually impact the community.

3:52:54And I hope we can get to that level of nuance.

3:52:57I think the council community deserves that.

3:52:59And can handle it.

3:53:00And I hope has enough meetings.

3:53:02I hope.

3:53:03I hope this can be discussed.

3:53:04You know a little more with little more urgency

3:53:08and hopefully not always as the last agenda

3:53:10item on city council meetings.

3:53:11So they're not always waiting until 11:00 at night for this.

3:53:14And then lastly, I heard a council member suggest

3:53:17kind of more robust guardrails.

3:53:18I'll put plus one on that.

3:53:20I think that's a great idea.

3:53:21So Thanks so much Great.

3:53:24Have a great evening.

3:53:25Thank you.

3:53:27You and I next speaker is Sherry Gardner.

3:53:31Sherry you should be able to meet and begin your time

3:53:34now okay Hi good evening.

3:53:39Yeah I'm pretty much in agreement

3:53:41with the other speakers.

3:53:44I did look at the summary portion of the audit report

3:53:49in many ways.

3:53:50I mean, I wasn't at all surprised by what I read.

3:53:56I was actually more surprised by the city management responds.

3:54:02I was really surprised, actually.

3:54:05The auditors had suggested a wage compensation study.

3:54:09And I was surprised to hear that.

3:54:11Well we can't afford to do one.

3:54:14Well I think we can afford not to do one.

3:54:17It does feel like that was one of the issues.

3:54:20And I noticed that on the options when we were looking

3:54:24at One of the slides shown earlier referring to other ways

3:54:31to continued cutting there was nothing in there

3:54:36about salary reductions and I'm not

3:54:39sure why that's not on their.

3:54:43The other point about tonight's meeting

3:54:47and a discussion about the policy versus the ordinance.

3:54:52I listen to that discussion and I thought

3:54:55it was interesting the whole point of an ordinance

3:54:59is exactly the point that the city manager made of why she

3:55:04thought it wasn't a good idea.

3:55:06But that's exactly the point why I think

3:55:08it is a good idea because there are

3:55:11actual accountability issues.

3:55:12If you don't follow that audit, then something

3:55:15actually might happen.

3:55:16As opposed to a policy where you Oh oh, well,

3:55:21we just didn't follow that policy.

3:55:23So there might be a little more mindfulness

3:55:26if there is actually an ordinance

3:55:28so that there is a guardrail in place.

3:55:31And I think one of the instances why

3:55:34this was important just in terms getting more authority

3:55:37from the city council.

3:55:39How to do it.

3:55:40I think it was of five or fire department over time where we

3:55:45used reserves to pay for that.

3:55:48And I think that happened without city council awareness.

3:55:52So things like that need to be.

3:55:55I think specified more clearly for the city council

3:56:00and assuming or as well.

3:56:02The last issue I just want to raise quickly

Public comment on the study session followed.

The first speaker asked for detailed spreadsheets rather than PDFs, asked whether the goal should be 17% — “that's two months” — when many cities hold more than 20%, recommended a citizens committee, said a promised website for budget questions never appeared, supported cutting management positions before lower-level ones, and noted the rating is BBB-minus, not BBB.

A second speaker said the changes amounted to “nibbling on cheese,” that fire brown-outs could lead insurers to non-renew homeowners' policies across the city's single zip code, and that a global semiconductor shortage could cut auto sales tax revenue.

Dan Schulman's first observation: “I didn't hear a lot about a change in approach, especially given the auditor's report that I think is suggesting a number of changes in approach.”

His position on the scenarios: “I hope the council should advocate for at least $2 million, if not more, in the permanent cuts.”

His reason: “I want El Cerrito to have a reserve and not be close to the” edge.

Then the request about how options are presented: “I hope that staff can offer multiple plausible and realistic scenarios and not ones that are designed to be rejected.”

He thanked Council and staff for “working so hard to solve this.”

Sherry Gardner said she was surprised by the city's response that it could not afford the compensation study the auditor suggested, argued an ordinance would add accountability a policy lacks, and raised fire overtime paid from reserves without the Council's awareness; she also urged support for single-payer health care.

Significant

A speaker asks for “multiple plausible and realistic scenarios and not ones that are designed to be rejected.” The same objection recurs in June, when the library line is the only item in the budget document marked optional.

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3:56:06is about health benefits.

3:56:08And I think everyone get on board for single payer

3:56:13because if we have single payer Hey

3:56:15the cities will do so much better.

3:56:18We they'll actually have many to pay better salary.

3:56:21And so I don't know if cities are strategizing about that.

3:56:25But I think it would be a great idea.

3:56:28So Thanks for your time.

3:56:30Thank you.

3:56:31And next hour.

3:56:32There's another speaker, we have Kate.

3:56:35Yeah we still have two more speakers, the next speaker

3:56:38is Dan and Boehner Dana.

3:56:40You can meet begin your time now OK.

3:56:44Thank you.

3:56:45I actually have two questions.

3:56:47And I understand at this point in the meeting

3:56:50you can't answer my questions, but I'll put them out there.

3:56:54Because if I'm thinking about it.

3:56:56Other people probably are too.

3:56:58First question is the staff has presented

3:57:01these spreadsheets where they had two possible scenarios.

3:57:04One million reductions and $2 million reductions.

3:57:08My question is, have the previous cuts

3:57:11that we're done over the last year

3:57:14or whatever are those expiring and So

3:57:17are these new are we starting again with cuts

3:57:19or is this on top of cuts already made.

3:57:22That's just not clear to me.

3:57:24My second question is on those spreadsheets

3:57:27that were presented the regarding personnel and pension

3:57:31levels for the last five years.

3:57:34Those both increased 5% or 6%.

3:57:37But on the spreadsheet for the future five years.

3:57:41They're presented as flat numbers.

3:57:43And I'm just wondering if that's actually

3:57:47the way that's going to go or is that

3:57:49just an optimistic projection.

3:57:53And my third and final point is about deferring

3:57:56colas that were word deferring is not I'd like that explain

3:58:02because it sounds to me like it's

3:58:04just put off going to be paid.

3:58:07Again it's not actually something given up

3:58:10and I'm just wondering if that's correct that it's not actually

3:58:14given it's just going to be paid later Thank you for your time.

3:58:20Thank you.

3:58:21Thank you.

3:58:22In The Last Speakers Howdy Gowdy How

3:58:25do you should be able to add new begin

3:58:27your time now thinking you.

3:58:29I never started out in ulcerative agree with a lot

3:58:34of other comments already.

3:58:36And I'll save the budget specific things

3:58:40for future meetings.

3:58:42But since this agenda item was billed as a forecast

3:58:47I've made this comment before, but I

3:58:51think it's league irresponsible when these forecasts only

3:58:55look at sort of one trajectory, which is basically

3:59:00increasing like all the taxes are are viewed

3:59:05as increasing every year.

3:59:06And that's just not I mean, it's naive it's reckless to only

3:59:11consider that one scenario, there's

3:59:14really a wedge of possibilities both up and down.

3:59:17If you look at the past years there wasn't just

3:59:21money atomically increasing revenues every year,

3:59:24it went up and down in the future.

3:59:27It's going to go up and down.

3:59:30And so any projection need to you

3:59:33include that volatility and that uncertainty and not just choose

3:59:37one particular trajectory, which happens to go up every year.

3:59:42That's just really irresponsible forecasting

3:59:44and I don't think you can consider it a forecast.

3:59:48It's it's just recklessness.

3:59:50So you need to actually have a really thick range

3:59:55of possible future scenarios not just one

3:59:59increasing scenario like you.

4:00:01Thank you concludes request to speak at this time thank you.

4:00:10And I think that what I just want

4:00:13to make a point about the Sherry dinner question

4:00:17about reserves being years.

4:00:19That was real, real property transfer tax

4:00:22that was used to pay overtime that we thought

4:00:26was going to go to reserves Is there

4:00:29any comments closing comments.

4:00:32Direction from the city council as we head

4:00:358 minutes toward eleven o'clock you should do any of us

4:00:44want to extend my 15 minutes.

4:00:47This meeting or are we now.

4:00:50No OK, do I hear any comments motions directions

4:00:55yes council member Marty.

4:00:57I would like to have SAP go back and take the bass since you

4:01:04and the $2 million reduction scenario

4:01:07and provide us with a worst case and the best case.

4:01:13So we can see the swing for both of those.

4:01:17I also would like to recommend as one of the speakers

4:01:21mentioned that there's not that to take away

4:01:24the impact trending if he can have a factor

4:01:27for discount of the revenues.

4:01:29So that's a common thing in forecasting so that we

4:01:32can see, well, if we took a 5% haircut

4:01:36what would that look like.

4:01:38So to have that in there as a toggle i

4:01:42think that this is in the.

4:01:45These are just estimates.

4:01:46But I would like to sort of caveat them

4:01:49and also see the best case and worst case

4:01:52and your thing to do that with the $2 million

4:01:55proposal is that correct.

4:01:57Yes.

4:01:58OK can't remember Rudnick any comment closing comments.

4:02:07Directional feedback before we go.

4:02:12I agree with Council Member on that.

4:02:14OK mayor Pro Tem I echo what my colleagues just

4:02:19said and I look forward to working with everyone.

4:02:24A dire situation.

4:02:26But I know WITH THIS COUNCIL We will

4:02:29finally make these changes.

4:02:31I think my colleagues here know the importance yes

4:02:35and know that we need to get this done now.

4:02:39Council member Abel.

4:02:40So then the next step is that we go to the public meeting

4:02:45right and then who's presenting at the public meeting

4:02:50the public.

4:02:52No No no it's not just a public isn't there some sort of person

4:02:58leading it Karen, you want to answer that.

4:03:02I had planned to speak with the mayor about that

4:03:06the previous town hall meetings were hosted

4:03:09by the mayor with support from city staff

4:03:11to be able to take questions.

4:03:14But that is I would intend to work with the mayor

4:03:18on making sure that the mayor is satisfied with how

4:03:23the meeting will be presented.

4:03:25So as to say Oh so the format is that it's

4:03:31a big giant theoretically public comment session.

4:03:34There's no there's no program to it.

4:03:38If that's the word again, I think

4:03:41Yeah that is to be determined that is

4:03:43that's what we did in the past.

4:03:46We had a community meeting a virtual community

4:03:49meeting in August of 2020 where we did a short presentation.

4:03:53And then there was a Q and AAA and essentially that that's

4:03:57how we did it last time.

4:04:00And I would want to work with the mayor and all of you

4:04:04if the council for any additional ideas for back

4:04:07or what could be in included in the program

4:04:11or if there would be some rooted in the I what let's there is

4:04:16I don't see what could come out of it

4:04:20unless the Code Council at least is in Boulder listening.

4:04:24I mean, what's the point of taking

4:04:26of one person taking input.

4:04:28And then we're all gonna be online.

4:04:30We're not.

4:04:31Yeah we're all good.

4:04:33I would be the intent.

4:04:34Yes.

4:04:35This would be a notice.

4:04:37This would be a noticed special meeting that the city council

4:04:40if we've actually we want to.

4:04:42We but this week Colleen has started pulling all of you

4:04:45for dates.

4:04:46So please make sure you get back to Holly as far as what date

4:04:51you are available.

4:04:52So you can get a full.

4:04:54I don't know what happened today because I didn't necessarily.

4:04:58I don't think I got much merit today actually because.

4:05:02All of a sudden, I did about right before 6:00.

4:05:06They all came through.

4:05:08I don't why the what I'm and I'm just wondering

4:05:15about what format it is.

4:05:17And so it's pretty casual right.

4:05:22There's a format that's what's happening You

4:05:27know again, based on how we.

4:05:29Based on what we've done before.

4:05:32Yes it would be mentioned to me a question and answer session

4:05:35a dialogue to be able to hear comments

4:05:37to be able to answer questions.

4:05:39You know that's generally a town hall meeting.

4:05:42Would you be there for the ones that

4:05:45can only be answered questions that are

4:05:47going to be answered by staff.

4:05:50I will absolutely be there.

4:05:52Yes.

4:05:52And And what about will absolutely be OK.

4:05:55Yes staff standard will be there that just Yeah.

4:06:00OK.

4:06:01OK.

4:06:02And will they get the documents the there

4:06:06was a public ahead of time.

4:06:10If and if there is a presentation or a program that

4:06:14would be put out with the agenda because if the entire council

4:06:18is at the meeting, then it would need to be

4:06:22noticed as a special meeting.

4:06:24I asked a different question Are there

4:06:26reports given to the attendees to answer them.

4:06:29The reports to look at two form their questions.

4:06:35We can absolutely do that.

4:06:36Again I would like to talk further with the mayor

4:06:39and with all of you as to what format

4:06:41you would like me to be able to put forward

4:06:44or if there are specific requests of counsel

4:06:46of specific reports that we should make sure are

4:06:49provided to the public.

4:06:51That's that's certainly.

4:06:53Whatever that whatever the council's desire is.

4:06:56But again, I think that in the path

4:06:59I am again basing on the previous town hall meetings

4:07:02that we've had we've had a short presentation

4:07:05on our current budget status and where we are at.

4:07:08And then it became a question and answer period.

4:07:12So any presentation.

4:07:13And I would expect would just be something very brief that would

4:07:17be able to allow the public to answer

4:07:19questions or provide a motion to extend

4:07:22this meeting by five minutes.

4:07:25So I can finish a statement.

4:07:28Some of these it was moved by Mayor Pro Quito

4:07:32and seconded by council member Ables and have a roll call,

4:07:38please infinitely.

4:07:40I mean keen Aye Council member Wilson.

4:07:45I. Council member Madame any meeting you.

4:07:49Council member Mohammed I some member of I

4:07:54think no motion carries.

4:07:55Thank you.

4:07:56Janet are you done.

4:07:58Can I finish up here.

4:08:00Now.

4:08:00That's what I just said.

4:08:02Oh I could tell.

4:08:04Well I just wanted to thank everybody.

4:08:06We have a lot of things ahead of us here.

4:08:09I was very pleased about the positiveness of the audit that

4:08:12came out today and our goals and our commitment

4:08:15to following through on the hard work

4:08:18and what the staff has done.

4:08:20It's not an easy job.

4:08:21There's a lot of numbers a lot to do.

4:08:23We're all committed.

4:08:24We're going to be watchdogs.

4:08:26We're going to monitor this.

4:08:28And I think we've all agreed as a council

4:08:31member Moti AMA has directed at us that $2 million is our goal.

4:08:35And we will have some options ahead of us options

4:08:39that our public understands and can

4:08:42help us understand with their public comments

4:08:45wherever we decide to.

4:08:47So choose.

4:08:48And I there's no further comment here at actually

4:08:52at 11:00 clock on the button.

4:08:54I say this evening is adjourned.

4:08:57Thank you very much Thank you, everybody.

4:09:00Thank you.

The meeting closed with directions and the format of the April town hall.

A speaker asked about the “one million reductions and $2 million reductions” spreadsheets: whether they come “on top of cuts already made,” and whether flat personnel and pension figures are “just an optimistic projection.”

She also asked whether deferred COLAs are given up or only paid later. Howdy Goudey called a forecast with a single rising trajectory “irresponsible,” asking for a range of scenarios. The Mayor noted that transfer tax had paid overtime that was expected to go to reserves.

Then the format discussion. The precedent: “we had a community meeting, a virtual community meeting, in August of 2020, where we did a short presentation and then there was a Q and A.”

The City Manager would “work with the mayor on making sure that the mayor is satisfied with how the meeting will be presented.”

Abelson pressed on what it actually is: “so the format is that it's a big giant, theoretically, public comment session. There's no program to it.”

And then: “I don't see what could come out of it unless the council at least is” there “listening. I mean, what's the point of taking” comment otherwise.

No vote is taken, but the Mayor closes by saying “I think we've all agreed… that $2 million is our goal,” after Motoyama asks for best and worst cases on the $2 million scenario.

The meeting adjourned after four hours.

Significant

A councilmember asks in advance what the April town hall can produce if it is only “a big giant… public comment session” with no program. The City Manager says it would follow the August 2020 format of a short presentation and questions, and with the whole Council present it would be a noticed special meeting.