Regular City Council Meeting November 17, 2020

Remote, via teleconference · 4 hours 2 minutes · 4680 caption units

Council: Greg Lyman, Mayor · Paul Fadelli, Mayor Pro Tem · Janet Abelson · Rochelle Pardue-Okimoto · Gabe Quinto

Staff: Karen Pinkos, City Manager · Paul Keith, Police Chief · Michael Pigoni, Fire Chief · Mark Rasiah, Finance Director

Retiring: Battalion Chief Dave Gibson

The police chief presents 2019 in review, delayed from May by the pandemic and the budget. Its central finding is his own: that Black motorists were the most likely to be ticketed in 2017, which left him “quite alarmed,” and which led him to redirect enforcement away from registration violations.

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Contents

23 sections
  1. 01ConvenedN
  2. 02Back to purpleN
  3. 03A developer chosen on ThursdayS
  4. 04The pole outside her houseS
  5. 05Police themselvesS
  6. 06Thirty-seven yearsS
  7. 07The cornerstoneS
  8. 08Outreach on three platformsS
  9. 09Four comparison groupsS
  10. 10“Quite alarmed at the trend”S
  11. 11The biggest reductionS
  12. 12What lockdown did to crimeS
  13. 13Two county programsS
  14. 14Reporting starts in 2022S
  15. 15“The outcome is not ideal”S
  16. 16Encampments during a pandemicS
  17. 17Big picture, then questionsN
  18. 18Budgeted at the lowest level in four yearsS
  19. 19Two point three, or one point fiveS
  20. 20Programs that don't cover themselvesS
  21. 21After the center seatS
  22. 22“I just vote no on the whole thing”S
  23. 23ContinuedX

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0:00:15Hello Holly.

0:00:17Hi council member Abel send we can see and hear you.

0:00:20Very good.

0:00:23OK I'm topping off our courtroom number.

0:00:34We have all of the members on the phone

0:00:35whenever you're ready.

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0:00:53Will the city clerk please call roll me your lineman.

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0:01:00Council member able thing here.

0:01:02Council member party Okamoto.

0:01:10Council member Brady Okamoto.

0:01:13Well you keep muting yourself.

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0:01:20Thank you, Cathy member came to cheer.

0:01:23Thank you.

0:01:23We have a quorum.

0:01:25All right.

0:01:29Item one is teleconference and public comments

0:01:31instructions of city clerk.

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0:03:03And finally, just a quick note for those of you

0:03:06who are joining us either viewing on Comcast

0:03:09or viewing on our Livestream on our website.

0:03:12We have had some power flickering

0:03:14on and off at city hall today.

0:03:16And while we do have a generator, which

0:03:18will help us recover quickly.

0:03:20My staff has said that there may be some short, very

0:03:23short disruptions in those feeds,

0:03:26but it should not affect our Webex feed

0:03:27and he is on standby to make sure

0:03:29that if we have any challenges with power

0:03:32he can quickly address them.

0:03:34That concludes my announcements.

0:03:35Mayor we're ready to move on to the next item.

0:03:43That concludes item 1 teleconference and public

The meeting opened remotely with all five members present.

The Clerk gave the teleconference and public comment instructions, and warned that power had been flickering at City Hall, with a generator on standby.

The evening runs four hours, and its largest item is a presentation that should have happened in May.

Note

The police department's annual review, normally given in May, is delayed to November by the pandemic and the budget.

02 Back to purple captions 72–200

0:03:45comment instructions will now move on to item 2 council

0:03:49and staff communications.

0:03:52City manager do you have announcements.

0:03:55Yes your honor.

0:03:56Thank you so much.

0:03:57I'm campaigning city manager and I have three things

0:04:00to share with you tonight.

0:04:02The first is to the topic of the year

0:04:06report on our local emergency.

0:04:08With the COVID 19 pandemic as I'm sure

0:04:11its most people probably know as of yesterday Costa County

0:04:16has moved back to the most impressive proposal

0:04:20to hear from the state perspective as

0:04:23well as the county perspective.

0:04:25Last night the managers of contrast county

0:04:28met with the Contra Costa health officers and spoke with them.

0:04:32They are trying to count on you to keep us posted at this time.

0:04:36What the purple tour means for the city is city

0:04:40operations specifically is that nothing

0:04:43has changed at this point.

0:04:44So the tier does not restrict us from continuing thing.

0:04:48The programs that we're offering right now,

0:04:51we are still keeping all of our public buildings closed.

0:04:55It was one thing to note that the county health officer was

0:04:59saying that in the tier system that the state is looking

0:05:03at the data over the last eight months

0:05:05or whatever is clearly showing that it's

0:05:07the indoor types of activities that really

0:05:10are spreading this virus.

0:05:14The most obviously, health care facilities

0:05:18and certainly care houses and things like nursing homes

0:05:22are hugely susceptible.

0:05:24But that is why indoor dining movie theaters indoor gyms that

0:05:28and gatherings are being restricted right now because

0:05:31of the data showing that is what they're telling us

0:05:34that the county can be more restrictive than the state

0:05:38at this time.

0:05:39We are following the state guidelines.

0:05:41But that could change.

0:05:42They are going to be looking at that data on a weekly basis

0:05:46to continue to update us.

0:05:47So we're going to try to push out as much information

0:05:50as we can.

0:05:51We encourage people to go to our website at El bash Speedo

0:05:56or splash COVID 19.

0:05:58You should also go and check out the county website.

0:06:01They are really doing a great job

0:06:02updating it with as much information as possible at CDC

0:06:05help that or virus.

0:06:08They're encouraging everyone to get tested.

0:06:11Certainly encouraging people to really

0:06:13take a very close deep look at their Thanksgiving plans.

0:06:18They're advising against anything but essential travel.

0:06:21This is impacting even my own family.

0:06:23My father was going to come visit from Michigan

0:06:25but we determined that that would not be

0:06:27a good idea, which is a bummer.

0:06:30But at the same time, I would much rather have to put

0:06:33things on pause right now.

0:06:35And to try to save people's lives

0:06:36and try to keep people safe.

0:06:37And I know everyone understands that.

0:06:40So we just have to continue stay vigilant to mask up

0:06:43to distance.

0:06:45Ands and try to really avoid those types of gatherings.

0:06:49Even though it's hard to do during the holidays.

0:06:51But there is a light at the end of the tunnel, one

0:06:54of the other things the county said was that with a really

0:06:57positive vaccine news that I'm sure you've all heard

0:06:59on that nationally, there are actually already putting

0:07:03in place a plan for distribution of the vaccine when

0:07:06they receive it.

0:07:07So they're working on all of those factors right now.

0:07:11And so that's a really good sign.

0:07:12So again, I encourage you all to get tested and purge all of you

0:07:16to stay vigilant and please check out

0:07:18our website for information.

0:07:21Second thing I would like to share

0:07:23is a bit of sad news for those of you

0:07:26who have been patrons of our recreation department,

0:07:30particularly.

0:07:32We lost a former employee unfortunately last week.

0:07:36Sheila divall this sadly passed away of ovarian cancer

0:07:41at the age of 39.

0:07:44She worked with us in our recreation department

0:07:47from 2004 to 2009.

0:07:50She started as a part time preschool age.

0:07:52She was an art instructor and a summer camp counselor.

0:07:55She was then promoted to a full time registrar in a community

0:07:59services coordinator.

0:08:00She started a variety of programs

0:08:02and a variety of people across our city,

0:08:05including the senior center facility

0:08:07rentals enrichment programs specialty camps.

0:08:10Some of you may remember that her mom also worked

0:08:13with us Sheila divall senior.

0:08:16She at one point was also president of seiu.

0:08:19So some of you worked probably with her.

0:08:23So that's they said for.

0:08:25For all of us.

0:08:26But even after Sheila didn't work with us.

0:08:29She did remain part of our community

0:08:31by offering specialty art classes.

0:08:34She was a native of Rhode Island,

0:08:36a wonderful highly skilled artist and illustrator

0:08:39and graphic designer and she eventually

0:08:42turned her art degree into a really successful career.

0:08:47And it's just a horrible shame just lost way too young.

0:08:52So our thoughts are with Sheila's

0:08:53friends and our family.

0:08:55One who worked with her.

0:08:56I have some wonderful memories of her both her and her mom

0:09:00momma Sheila.

0:09:02So my heart is breaking for them.

0:09:04But we want everyone to see that on behalf of city staff.

0:09:08We offer our condolences to the family to all of our team

0:09:11who work there and know that our hearts are

0:09:14with you at this difficult and lastly, the last announcement

0:09:21that I would like actually, I will

0:09:22turn that over to our community development

0:09:25director Paul Newman.

0:09:27She's on the call.

0:09:29And I would like for her to inform the council

0:09:32and the public of what really truly

0:09:36is our largest economic development project that we're

0:09:39looking at right now.

0:09:40Coming up with a partnership with art.

0:09:43So Melanie can you please take that away.

0:09:48Hi can you hear me.

The City Manager reported the county's return to the most restrictive tier.

What it meant locally: “nothing has changed at this point. So the tier does not restrict us from continuing… the programs that we're offering right now. We are still keeping all of our public buildings closed.”

The county could go further: “the county can be more restrictive than the state at this time. We are following the state guidelines. But that could change.”

She relayed the county health officer's explanation: the data over the last eight months was “clearly showing that it's the indoor types of activities that really are spreading this virus.”

Hence “indoor dining, movie theaters, indoor gyms… and gatherings are being restricted right now.”

Care settings were named as “hugely susceptible.”

The advice on the holiday: take “a very close deep look at their Thanksgiving plans,” with the county “advising against anything but essential travel.”

Her own illustration: “this is impacting even my own family. My father was going to come visit from Michigan, but we determined that that would not be a good idea, which is a bummer.”

The county was already planning distribution of a vaccine. She also announced the death of Sheila Divall, a former recreation employee, at 39.

Note

The county returned to the purple tier a week before Thanksgiving, with indoor activity identified as the driver from eight months of data; city buildings stay closed.

03 A developer chosen on Thursday captions 201–497

0:09:50Can I help.

0:09:51Oh here we go.

0:09:55Good evening council members and public as Karen

0:09:59said, and many of you have probably seen the news

0:10:01through various methods.

0:10:03But Bart the Bart board on Thursday

0:10:05will be considering an exclusive negotiating agreement, which

0:10:09is the first step is moving forward

0:10:12with the development of the Oswego plaza Bart station.

0:10:15It's interesting.

0:10:16I was actually in our pages today.

0:10:18And if I remember 19 would actually

0:10:19one year ago today on November 19 the council

0:10:24getting parents on the desk.

0:10:26So that was about a year process.

0:10:28And going forward once developers on board.

0:10:30We will be part and working with the developer

0:10:33to create community engagement opportunities.

0:10:36And it'll probably be next year, will be a busy one

0:10:40with a lot of analysis and lots of opportunities for community

0:10:43input into this project, which is Karen said, really, if you

0:10:46go back to policy documents all of our economic development

0:10:49general plan and various over the many decades

0:10:53have really focused on bringing life and redeveloping the Bart

0:10:58stations and El cerrito plaza both the respondents

0:11:02and talking to Bart considered a real fantastic site

0:11:06as people know it's really resource

0:11:07rich close to so many things.

0:11:10And really be an opportunity to build out a downtown.

0:11:14So on Thursday, the board's meeting to select the developer

0:11:19and if that August will be on board.

0:11:22It is holiday development is one of the main developers, which

0:11:25is also the developer that we selected for the make our site

0:11:29and for those of you who haven't been up there there is a crane

0:11:32site and they are setting small pools

0:11:35and within the next month, the modules will a six

0:11:39story building, and it will take about six months for

0:11:41that project to be completed.

0:11:44The one at the Plaza is bigger.

0:11:47It has more 2 will have more amenities and features,

0:11:50including things that are required by the specific plan,

0:11:52including retail on Fairmont.

0:11:55We will be studying and the city will have some decision

0:11:58to make around a library and inclusion of a library

0:12:02and all kinds of other open space in communities.

0:12:05So just excited to announce that that will be Thursday.

0:12:07If people want to continue to get updates on that project.

0:12:12You can go to the city's web page TMT

0:12:18transit oriented development.

0:12:19And we will create links both.

0:12:21We have a link there to the Bart board meeting on Thursday.

0:12:23But we will also continue to post things as it evolves

0:12:27and we'll get it out with various methods

0:12:29when there is opportunities for input.

0:12:32So it'll be a big project requires

0:12:35a lot of talk all of our parts.

0:12:36And so that's been something envisioned

0:12:38by many city councils.

0:12:40So I'm happy to report that that's moving forward.

0:12:48Great questions for Melanie because that

0:12:56concludes tough mutations.

0:12:58All right.

0:12:59Chiang Mai Mai Mai.

0:13:01Thank you.

0:13:03Rachelle go ahead.

0:13:06I'm sorry did you.

0:13:07Melanie, did you say how long the project

0:13:10may be going on asking.

0:13:12I'm asking.

0:13:13So obvious.

0:13:16Obviously with COVID and everything,

0:13:17there's a lot of the meat comes to development

0:13:19or maybe family development.

0:13:23The easy part.

0:13:24Estimates about three years, probably.

0:13:26And three years later said it could break

0:13:28ground one to two year planning process and kids being involved

0:13:34is great.

0:13:36Obviously there's been simple change that down there.

0:13:38And I know you're in that neighborhood.

0:13:40And so it'll be an amazing thing to be involved in

0:13:42and hope it goes forward.

0:13:44But three years until it breaks ground in kind of a best case

0:13:48scenario only one to two years of active planning,

0:13:52and then the developers and of course, get financing

0:13:55develop construction documents and then pull them out.

0:14:00OK next year.

0:14:01So they'll be cut to the next two years.

0:14:03If you talk about transportation and access and other issues.

0:14:08Well I'm excited about it, even though I

0:14:10know it'll be a lot of noise.

0:14:13I think.

0:14:13I think you do it.

0:14:15Yeah big banks plus a k.

0:14:18Great, thank you.

0:14:19Welcome input.

0:14:19I think that there's a lot of people concerns

0:14:22and a lot of excitement and so I think

0:14:24we'll be OK balance those two things

0:14:27and have resolved a lot of the issues

0:14:29and end up with something really great for us.

0:14:31The are they considering during the same construction method.

0:14:37Yes so factory Alaska the modules is definitely

0:14:40a big key component of this.

0:14:43Of course, anything could change.

0:14:44And it could be both different ways.

0:14:46But one of the really positive things about that.

0:14:48And I imagine people here tell mark is it really minimizes

0:14:51the amount of time that it's disruption in the neighborhood

0:14:55since the buildings being built off site the site

0:14:57where can happen.

0:14:58And then the modules come in pretty quickly.

0:15:01Obviously it'll be a lot larger.

0:15:02It's a much larger site.

0:15:04So a lot more buildings and walkways and different things.

0:15:07But Yeah the modules are again.

0:15:10And I know some of us are so mean

0:15:11you're going to be able to come out and them talk about it,

0:15:14but it's been an amazing process.

0:15:15When you go back on the freeway and see that crane

0:15:17it's incredible.

0:15:18But it's been pretty smooth.

0:15:20So that is a part of their ambition.

0:15:26It saves time and money for the development of housing as well.

0:15:28So for the neighborhood.

0:15:29The biggest benefit is that there's just a lot less impact

0:15:32a lot less being built right there in the middle

0:15:34of that busy part of town but then

0:15:37also it saves time and money.

0:15:40So that actually able to go for right at any reports

0:15:49from council members I'll be right back.

0:15:55OK, Paul did you raise your hand.

0:15:59Paul, I just want to report that I took

0:16:05part in the human relations truth and reconciliation

0:16:09conversation.

0:16:10They're having about racism last Wednesday.

0:16:14And there will be, I think many more Wednesdays in a row

0:16:18here with people talking about their experiences

0:16:21and also working out what it means to them

0:16:23and what it should mean to our city.

0:16:26And finally, if anyone has about this right stuff

0:16:29liberty heights have returned to downtown theater district.

0:16:32Thanks to the Chamber of Commerce.

0:16:35They will be turned to the plaza in a couple weeks

0:16:39and anything we do for our retail

0:16:43and our restaurants will be helpful

0:16:45and plus, they look great.

0:16:47Thank you.

0:16:51Great, thank you.

0:16:53Any other reports.

0:16:57All right.

0:16:58I will go ahead and do a couple reports of the November mayors

0:17:06conference had a presentation about adapting

0:17:09to sea level rise.

0:17:12It's an acronym a rt.

0:17:14Adapt to rising tides.

0:17:16And it is a.

0:17:18Organization here in the Bay Area

0:17:20that is tracking what communities are at risk

0:17:24associated with sea level rise.

0:17:27And so it's put on by there's a e Contra Costa adaptive seawall

0:17:35level rise report a tremendous amount of the Redwood area

0:17:43is actually vulnerable to.

0:17:45And in the delta area is vulnerable to sea

0:17:48level rise in Contra Costa.

0:17:50So we had a presentation on that.

0:17:53The other presentation or a lengthy discussion

0:17:57at the November mayors conference

0:17:59was the original housing needs assessment

0:18:02arena numbers are h and a.

0:18:05These numbers are how much housing is allocated

0:18:09to the various communities.

0:18:12And there's not necessarily a balanced distribution

0:18:18there's more housing being put into communities in places

0:18:24like Contra Costa and Sonoma.

0:18:25And Napa than there is necessarily

0:18:28being put into communities that have the employment

0:18:31centers most notably Santa Clara.

0:18:34So that's something that's an ongoing concern.

0:18:40However El Serino is with our mark stations with her.

0:18:48San Pablo Avenue complete street smarts plan.

0:18:53We are well into being able to satisfy all of our numbers

0:18:58up to this date as well as probably into the future.

0:19:01However we probably will need to make

0:19:03some additional adjustments to the future

0:19:05to satisfy the future numbers today we concluded

0:19:10our interviews for this cycle.

0:19:14So for boards and commissions and committees.

0:19:17I do want to encourage people to do the application process.

0:19:21We will be doing a new round of interviews in the new year

0:19:28as a result of vacancies that occur at in the new year.

0:19:34So our cycles are March to March.

0:19:38And so full four year terms typically and we

0:19:40have quite a few vacancies that are planned for March.

0:19:45So please look for new announcements for applications.

0:19:50We did a point to the planning commission Daniel Hamilton

0:19:57to the park and rec commission.

0:20:01Sean Purcell to the human record.

0:20:05Reese will the human relations commission Julia

0:20:09connect to the financial advisory board.

0:20:13William Kitson us and Debra Saunders and we

0:20:17extended the term of Kathy Lear.

0:20:19So those were actions we took today.

0:20:24And that concludes my announcements.

0:20:35Actually I'll go ahead and make one more

0:20:37community announcement in advance of potentially

0:20:40some of our speakers.

0:20:42The shopping holiday display.

0:20:45It is a well attended display on Mosher.

0:20:51It it's placed on PG&E property and visible from Mosher.

0:20:56It attracts quite a number of people.

0:20:58And we have in the past, we've seen

0:21:03musical presentations that attract

0:21:05a large number of people.

0:21:07Unfortunately with the COVID situation,

0:21:13the shoddy holidays play is going back to its roots.

0:21:18You might say shoddy Mr shoddy put up a single star.

0:21:23His very first year.

0:21:25Over 50 years ago.

0:21:27And that is the single thing that will be placed this year.

0:21:32So if you are looking for the shoddy holiday display,

0:21:37it will be there.

0:21:39But it will be a single star similar to what Mr qaddafi

0:21:45did on his original first year.

0:21:51And that will unless someone else's.

0:21:55I can't see you guys unless somebody

0:21:57has another announcement.

0:21:58I'll move on to the next item.

0:22:01Janet Gabe.

0:22:04Janet first and then Gabe OK.

0:22:08The announcement that I attended the first committee

0:22:18meeting this month and being a lot of concern

0:22:25because their members were being turned out in

0:22:29droves not get replacements.

0:22:31And the things that their committee that's different

0:22:34perhaps than other committees is there

0:22:38is a lot of technical expertise.

0:22:41And so they were wondering if there could

0:22:45be an exception made for them.

0:22:48So that they could remain on the committee.

0:22:54I know when they started.

0:22:55Most of them had PhD in forestry for example.

0:23:01And so they asked me to bring that to your attention.

0:23:09I don't know if this is the right place.

0:23:11Maybe the agenda.

0:23:13But anyway, I wanted to bring it up to you.

0:23:17We can put that on a future agenda item.

0:23:21So we'll take that up in consideration either.

0:23:28I guess so.

0:23:30Bur first, I guess that's the next one.

0:23:36Great, thank you.

0:23:37OK that's really it.

0:23:40All right Gabe.

0:23:41OK, thank you, Mayor.

0:23:43I did attend the recycled war meeting last Thursday

0:23:48and the one thing that was agreed on.

0:23:52They did not support the option to that Mayor Lyman

0:23:59and I supported.

0:24:01They are supporting an option 3 to use our reserves to keep

0:24:10rates lower for next year.

0:24:13So that's what they will be doing.

0:24:16So once cragen died.

0:24:19We did not have enough votes and for option two.

0:24:24But the other cities prevailed.

0:24:27And also, I wanted to announce that I was appointed

0:24:32president of the East Bay division of the League

0:24:35of California cities.

0:24:37So I had a meeting with the executive board

0:24:41and with Sam Kegel and we are working on appointments

0:24:46for council members and mayors for Alameda County and Costa

0:24:51County and I look forward to working with my colleagues here

0:24:55and elsewhere rito and the other cities

0:24:58and Costa and Alameda County.

0:25:04Congratulations on that appointment.

0:25:06Thank you.

0:25:07And we have.

0:25:08Thank you.

0:25:09I was there for part of that meeting

0:25:11as I was recognized for my service.

0:25:14And I was a little disappointed with their decision

0:25:17about the funding for rates for this coming year.

0:25:22I will say it out loud.

0:25:24So that potentially staff can provide

0:25:26you the support in those situations

0:25:29where they're using reserves.

0:25:31We didn't necessarily contribute to the reserves

0:25:34in the same fashion as all the other cities because

0:25:37of our recycling center.

0:25:38We have a slightly different funding formula.

0:25:42And so I would certainly want to make sure that staff is looking

0:25:45at the use of reserves to make sure that Osorio is not being

0:25:52unfairly is not unfairly subsidizing other jurisdictions

0:26:00as a result of that decision.

0:26:02So I know sky bordering on discussion.

0:26:07But I wanted to take advantage of this opportunity

0:26:09to ask staff to support council member quito.

0:26:16Seeing no other discussion that will conclude.

Communications included a BART decision due that week.

The event: “on Thursday, the board['s] meeting to select the developer” for the Plaza BART site.

The likely choice was already known — the same developer selected for the Mayfair site, where “there is a crane… and within the next month, the modules will” form “a six story building… about six months for that project to be completed.”

Building the modules off site, staff said, saves time and money and shortens the disruption to the neighborhood.

The comparison: “the one at the Plaza is bigger. It has more… amenities and features, including things that are required by the specific plan, including retail.”

And the open question: “the city will have some decision to make around a library and inclusion of a library, and all kinds of other open space.” Ground-breaking was about three years away in the best case.

Also reported: a mayors conference presentation on sea level rise by Adapting to Rising Tides, tracking “what communities are at risk,” with “a tremendous amount” of the area vulnerable.

And an Urban Forest Committee problem: members “were being turned out in droves” by term limits “not” getting “replacements.”

What makes that committee different: “there is a lot of technical expertise” — “most of them had PhD in forestry” — and they asked whether “there could be an exception made for them.”

The Mayor agreed it could go on a future agenda.

Fadelli reported the Human Relations Commission's conversations on racism. The Mayor reported the regional housing needs allocation discussion and new commission appointments. Quinto reported that RecycleMore would use reserves to hold rates down, over El Cerrito's objection, and that he had been made president of the League of California Cities' East Bay division; Lyman asked staff to make sure El Cerrito was not subsidizing other cities through that decision.

Significant

The BART board considers a developer for the Plaza station two days after this meeting, and staff already identify the library as a decision the city will have to make. The Urban Forest Committee asks for a term limit exception because it is losing members with forestry doctorates.

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0:26:19Item to council and staff communications.

0:26:24Item 3 is communications from the public remarks

0:26:29are typically limited to three minutes per person.

0:26:32I may reduce the time limit per speaker

0:26:34depending upon the number of speakers

0:26:36and may limit the total time for public comment

0:26:38to facilitate the completion of business on the agenda.

0:26:41Comments regarding non agenda presentation

0:26:44and consent calendar items will be heard first.

0:26:46Comments related to items prepared appearing

0:26:50on the public hearing or policy portions of the agenda

0:26:53will be heard prior to the city council

0:26:55taking action on those items.

0:26:58So this is the time for members of the public who

0:27:01wish to provide public comments regarding

0:27:03matters not only agenda.

0:27:05Our comments on the consent item or comments on the presentation

0:27:08items should use the Raise and feature to request

0:27:13speak and the city clerk has instructions

0:27:19or help guide to help you find those buttons

0:27:27and then mayor, why we are giving members of the public

0:27:29an opportunity to raise their hand.

0:27:31I can announce that the public comments received by the 4 PM

0:27:35deadline today were posted on our website,

0:27:37and provided directly to the council members.

0:27:40This includes items not on the agenda.

0:27:42Comments from Cordell Handler Diana Chen and Kathy anvil.

0:27:47Agenda item 5 a.

0:27:48From members of the ailsa Reid of fire safe group and agenda

0:27:52item 5.

0:27:53V from RL Dan Schulman Kathy Handel and Lisa Adam

0:27:59and at this time, it looks like we

0:28:00only have one member of the public who wishes to speak.

0:28:04Can you confirm the three minute time limit.

0:28:06Yes let's proceed with three minutes

0:28:08for the speaker Carol Brady.

0:28:13Thank you.

0:28:14Carol, you were I'm meeting can begin your time now.

0:28:17Great, thank you so much.

0:28:19Good evening mayor and council members and staff.

0:28:23So you probably most or all of you

0:28:26are aware that there was a power outage

0:28:28on Friday, then extended into Saturday, Saturday morning.

0:28:34It turns out that the origin of that

0:28:37was pulled right outside my house.

0:28:40That's the 7,000 block of Gladys Avenue

0:28:45that that event started with what sounded like an explosion.

0:28:50A little after 3:00 o'clock in the afternoon on Friday.

0:28:53And it turned out that the top of the pole was on fire.

0:28:57OK The LED or fire department did put it out.

0:29:02And then about four hours later, the contractors

0:29:06came and actually replaced the entire pole.

0:29:11The reason I'm talking to you tonight

0:29:14is because we've lived in RStudio

0:29:17for a little over 21 years.

0:29:19And by my best recollection I think

0:29:23there's been at least four major incidents

0:29:27and when I see a major incident.

0:29:29I'm talking about something like a fire

0:29:31or a power surge that's blown out appliances

0:29:39and so forth and so on.

0:29:40Lines cut live wires coming down and.

0:29:43I guess I would like to make a request

0:29:46of the city to actually request data from PG&E

0:29:52incident data going back.

0:29:55I don't know.

0:29:552020 years to find out if this block that I'm talking about.

0:30:02And Gladys where I live has a higher than expected number

0:30:06of incidents.

0:30:07I realize incidents don't happen every week or every month.

0:30:11Thank goodness.

0:30:13But would another block expect to have

0:30:16four or five major incidents in 20 years

0:30:20potentially life threatening.

0:30:23So I would like to request that the city look into this

0:30:29and get the data.

0:30:31And if it turns out that it is higher than expected.

0:30:34I would like to know what the risk mitigation plan is

0:30:38because it seems like we have an unexpectedly

0:30:43high number of incidents here.

0:30:45And I am concerned from the safety point of view.

0:30:49Thank you.

0:30:51Thank you, Carol.

0:30:51What was their block again.

0:30:53Uncle said Gladys correct.

0:30:55Yes the 7,000 block of Gladys.

0:30:58I'd be happy to speak to anybody from the city you know offline

0:31:05about the exact location.

0:31:06Show you the exact the pole is right outside my house.

0:31:12Yeah, I don't think the city clerk will reach out to you

0:31:17through the chat function to get your contact information,

0:31:21and we'll pass that on.

0:31:22So thank you.

0:31:23Thank you.

0:31:24Thank you.

0:31:26Sit will help Ar thank you he so I am the resident

0:31:40of sorry at ATL as well.

0:31:42I actually live on Central Avenue

0:31:45and unfortunately, this is bored.

0:31:49Well, fortunately or unfortunately,

0:31:51this is bordering Richmond.

0:31:53So that's the Richmond annex neighborhood.

0:31:57I'm not sure if you guys know, there is an empty lot that

0:32:01was supposed to be built. And I'm not

0:32:04sure if the project is going.

0:32:08The location is Central Avenue and some detail

0:32:12between cemetery on Belmont.

0:32:15Now that empty lot had had had some issues lately.

0:32:21I've been here only for a year actually.

0:32:24And there was some homeless camping

0:32:28there where fire had started.

0:32:33Unfortunately I was looking for the name somebody

0:32:35help me it also read to a city.

0:32:39They got the word, and they cleaned up the place.

0:32:42And they dated the lot.

0:32:45What had happened.

0:32:46Now people are dumping stuff.

0:32:50So it has become an illegal dumping place.

0:32:56I wasn't sure if there is a name number for all three though.

0:32:59But they had tried to call Richmond.

0:33:02They have a hotline that goes to voicemail

0:33:06and but nothing happened.

0:33:09And the situation is getting worse and worse, which reflect

0:33:14adversely on this neighborhood.

0:33:17So I was just wondering what can also read to do about this.

0:33:23And interestingly, that the blog is shared by L3 2 and Richmond

0:33:32let me see.

0:33:33It is the southern side of Central

0:33:37Avenue near the Albany hill.

0:33:41So if you can guys do something about it.

0:33:46It will help a lot.

0:33:47This this amazing neighborhood.

0:33:49And this is the interests of all three

0:33:51though Mary, thank you for your comment.

0:33:57That is the former Dolan lumber site

0:34:00and it is predominantly in Richmond.

0:34:04So the we will do our best to take action where we can.

0:34:12And we will work with Richmond as well.

0:34:16The city manager, I think I can see me if I scroll.

0:34:20I think I can.

0:34:21We're on the diet.

0:34:22I'd be able to look at you, Karen.

0:34:23And see that you were nodding your head that you

A resident described a power outage that had begun at her own address.

The event: an outage “on Friday, then extended into Saturday… the origin of that was” a pole “right outside my house” on “the 7,000 block of Gladys Avenue.”

What it sounded like: “what sounded like an explosion, a little after 3:00 o'clock in the afternoon on Friday.”

Then: “it turned out that the top of the pole was on fire.”

The fire department put it out, and “about four hours later, the contractors came and actually replaced the entire pole.”

Her reason for raising it: in a little over 21 years there, she counted at least four major incidents on her block, and she asked the city to obtain incident data from PG&E and a risk mitigation plan if the rate proved high.

Pole fires affecting the city come before the Council in a PG&E update on 2 November 2021.

Another resident reported illegal dumping on the former Dolan lumber site on Central Avenue, mostly in Richmond; staff said neighborhood preservation was coordinating with Richmond.

Significant

A pole fire on Gladys Avenue causes an outage from Friday into Saturday, and the resident counts at least four major incidents on her block in 21 years. Pole fires affecting the city come before the Council in November 2021.

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0:34:25would take some action on this.

0:34:28I mean, if I may.

0:34:29To our community development Director Melanie

0:34:33did let me know that they do have

0:34:34their neighborhood Preservation Office are looking into it.

0:34:37Most of the property is in return.

0:34:39But they are working on coordinating it.

0:34:41And then I did let them know that she

0:34:42can send me the details to make sure it

0:34:44gets into the right hands.

0:34:46Great, thank you.

0:34:49And the next speaker.

0:34:51I see is Margaret Hassan and hope.

0:34:54Margaret, I hope I pronounced your last name correctly.

0:34:57Yes you did.

0:34:58And I needed that.

0:35:00Yes you are.

0:35:01Oh yes of course.

0:35:03I'm Margaret Hudson and I'm representing tonight,

0:35:06the ultra progressives and we're just reiterating a community

0:35:13initiative on citizen community policing operations

0:35:20and cooperation in the city of El cerrito

0:35:24to help citizens understand the importance of policing

0:35:29and the reasons for policing to help citizens understand

0:35:34and see what's happening with policing

0:35:39and have police department and police to police themselves.

0:35:45Explain some of the requirements and some of the actions

0:35:50that are happening with police.

0:35:52We've noticed informally some reports

0:35:58from certain citizens and visitors

0:36:02to Elsa retail of police profiling.

0:36:04And I think that an outreach from the police to schools

0:36:09and young people and to citizens in general

0:36:16will help these cities and police cooperation

0:36:20and also read out and absolve some of the misunderstandings

0:36:24happening here.

0:36:25I know that Elsa to you to progressives and chief keef

0:36:32teeth along with the LSAT riedl city council

0:36:36have discussed this previously.

0:36:38And we'd like to continue on the discussion.

0:36:42And that's about my time.

0:36:43That's all I have to say.

0:36:46Great, thank you, Margaret, for your comment.

0:36:47I know the police chief is here tonight

0:36:50and did hear your comments.

0:36:52So thank you, Mayor did that does conclude

0:36:57public comment at this time.

0:36:59All right.

0:37:00That concludes item 3 comment communications from the public.

0:37:04We'll now move on to item 4, which

0:37:07is a adoption of the consent Hollander and I'm pausing.

0:37:17We do not have an item tonight.

0:37:21I mean, all we have has time since I've been here.

0:37:24That's that's Yeah.

0:37:25That's that's why I'm stumbling.

0:37:27We have no ID.

0:37:28We have no consent items on an item four.

0:37:35And that concludes item for adoption

0:37:37of the consent calendar.

0:37:38There was none.

0:37:40Item five as presentations we have two presentations tonight.

0:37:44One is item 5 a proclamation honoring

0:37:47Dave Gibson in retirement and the other is item 5.

0:37:51Oswego police department 20 in review and for a five day

A speaker for a local organization proposed a community initiative on policing.

Her framing: “a community initiative on citizen community policing operations and cooperation in the city.”

Its three aims. First, “to help citizens understand the importance of policing and the reasons for policing.”

Second, “to help citizens understand and see what's happening with policing.”

And third, the one that carries the weight: to “have [the] police department and police… police themselves,” explaining “some of the requirements and some of the actions that are happening.”

Her evidence for why: “we've noticed informally some reports from certain citizens and visitors” of police profiling, and she asked for outreach to schools and young people.

Significant

A speaker for the El Cerrito Progressives, citing informal reports of police profiling, asks for a community initiative in which the police department would “police themselves” and explain its actions to the public.

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0:38:00proclamation.

0:38:02I am looking to see areas Mr begonia has joined us.

0:38:07So And Dave couldn't seem to you.

0:38:13I think there's a presentation here.

0:38:16Yes good evening mayor and council

0:38:18members Michael or fire chief.

0:38:22And I'm honored to be here before you tonight to have

0:38:25this opportunity to recognize battalion chief Dave

0:38:28Gibson known as 35 years of service

0:38:32and the dedication to the city of El Salvador and the fire

0:38:35department and even more so on his upcoming retirement

0:38:39from the fire department.

0:38:40Next month, the proclamation before you.

0:38:43Tonight it lists many of Dave's accomplishments,

0:38:47but it would be much longer than the one page.

0:38:49If we were to try and list every accomplishment

0:38:52that Dave has achieved over these 35 years.

0:38:55It's important to know that Dave's fire career actually

0:38:58started 37 years ago when Dave was

0:39:01a reserve firefighter for the city at a very young age.

0:39:05And this provided him the training and the experience

0:39:09that prepared him to transition into a full time

0:39:13firefighter in 1985.

0:39:17Throughout his career Dave has always

0:39:18been looking for ways to improve the service that the fire

0:39:21department provided.

0:39:23Dave was instrumental after the Loma Prieta earthquake in 1989

0:39:28and developing and creating our original neighborhood

0:39:32emergency assistance team.

0:39:34Otherwise known as neat.

0:39:37This neighborhood team was the precursor to the cert program

0:39:42that we know today.

0:39:44And basically the devastation that he saw from the Loma

0:39:48Prieta earthquake and the need for neighborhoods

0:39:51to be able to bind together led him into this.

0:39:55And in the future that it developed when

0:39:57it became cert after the 99 or after the 1999

0:40:02one Oakland Hills fire.

0:40:05At this point Dave being promoted to a captain.

0:40:09He worked with the fire Marshal and developed the sea

0:40:12or the city's weed abatement program

0:40:15and set up the vegetation management that we know today

0:40:19as the weed abatement program, as well as the fire prevention

0:40:23office of which he served as the first officer in this capacity.

0:40:28Some of some of the many positions

0:40:30and the assignments that Dave has held

0:40:33are not necessarily in order.

0:40:35But it was the firefighter who began he promoted

0:40:38from firefighter to captain and which initially,

0:40:42he was a fire prevention officer.

0:40:44He became a battalion chief.

0:40:46You also served as our fire Marshal a training officer.

0:40:50He was our emergency medical service officer, the night

0:40:54coordinator as well as an instructor,

0:40:57as well as with the cert coordinator

0:40:59and being one of the main instructor for that program.

0:41:04He was our emergency preparedness coordinator,

0:41:07which dealt with obviously teaching many of our city

0:41:11staff the isis program, as well as being

0:41:14instrumental in our emergency operation plan

0:41:18and being a bit in awe and would have been instrumental

0:41:24in mercy operations center.

0:41:26In the event of a major incident within the city.

0:41:29On Dave was also one of the incident

0:41:31commanders of the East Bay incident management team.

0:41:35He was the strike team leader and as well as he was the state

0:41:38fire Marshal instructor or the state

0:41:40the Office of State fire Marshal instructor

0:41:43for the city of California.

0:41:45And the list goes on and on.

0:41:48Dave was also very instrumental over the years

0:41:50in obtaining billions of in federal and state grants

0:41:54for the purchase of vitally needed equipment.

0:41:57Dave is going to be missed billing

0:41:59issues is going to be very difficult

0:42:00job for the fire department.

0:42:02Not only is the city losing their most

0:42:05senior full time employee the state or the fire department.

0:42:09We're losing a vital part of our institutional knowledge

0:42:12and experience, as well as a friend to all of us

0:42:16with that Mayor.

0:42:17I will turn his back to you and the council for your thoughts

0:42:20on, which is and the presentation

0:42:22of the proclamation.

0:42:24And thank you very much.

0:42:28Sure I'll bring it back.

0:42:29I'm Dave.

0:42:30I've known you for many years.

0:42:33And I have to say that you are your selfless

0:42:38dedication to our city is really remarkable.

0:42:40And as far as the two just rattle off your commitment

0:42:46to protecting us through neat and certificate

0:42:50is commendable and will be a living

0:42:54legacy of your time with us.

0:42:56So I truly appreciate your making our city safer

0:42:59and how much time you spent in El rito

0:43:05over the last 35 years or more.

0:43:09Given your training career.

0:43:11So I personally want to thank you very much.

0:43:14And we'll miss you.

0:43:16I will because I've seen you in many different environments.

0:43:21And I will miss.

0:43:22I'll be looking for you to come back

0:43:24on those certain days you know I think,

0:43:27which ones I'm thinking of.

0:43:30I know Janet.

0:43:31You probably would like to go next.

0:43:34So we'll go to you.

0:43:36OK, Dave, I've known you quite a long time.

0:43:41And I've worked with you on many, many different projects.

0:43:47And it's been such a pleasure working with you.

0:43:51And I'm really going to miss you.

0:43:55I know that you will look forward to your retirement.

0:44:00And I give you.

0:44:06I don't quite know how much to say how much.

0:44:09I really truly appreciate all the different things.

0:44:13And all the different things that you've

0:44:15done because they're fast.

0:44:18And you know it's like we need somebody you're always there.

0:44:24And I will miss that.

0:44:26But I celebrate you and your retirement.

0:44:31And I hope you enjoy it and have a very

0:44:35long and happy retirement.

0:44:37Dave, thank you for all you've done.

0:44:44Any other council members would like to make comments.

0:44:46I see.

0:44:47Game went to his.

0:44:49But before you waste your finger Paul.

0:44:51So we'll go game.

0:44:52Paul Rochelle.

0:44:55Chief said, I wanted to say congratulations and wish

0:45:00you a long, long retirement.

0:45:03And I just want to say thank you on behalf of our residents

0:45:07here and also to Rita.

0:45:08I took your start class as a number of years ago.

0:45:12So I know how much you are appreciated by me

0:45:17and many of our council members and former mayors

0:45:20through the years.

0:45:22So again, congratulations and all the best

0:45:25to you and your family.

0:45:31Paul Mr Gibson thank you for 3 and 1/2 decades of keeping

0:45:35El Serino safe even when I didn't know you

0:45:38you were keeping also Serino state.

0:45:41So that's the test of it.

0:45:42And that kind of work doesn't get less.

0:45:45As you know the work gets more longer in our Serino and here

The fire chief presented a retirement proclamation for a battalion chief whose career shaped two city programs.

The span: “35 years of service” with retirement the following month — though “Dave's fire career actually started 37 years ago when Dave was a reserve firefighter for the city at a very young age,” transitioning to full time in 1985.

The Chief's difficulty with the document: the proclamation “lists many of Dave's accomplishments, but it would be much longer than the one page if we were to try and list every accomplishment.”

His disposition throughout: “Dave has always been looking for ways to improve the service that the fire department provided.”

The first program: he was “instrumental after the Loma Prieta earthquake in 1989” in creating the original neighborhood emergency assistance team, NEAT, which became CERT after the 1991 Oakland Hills fire.

As a captain he also developed, with the fire marshal, the weed abatement program, and served as the first fire prevention officer; he was the city's most senior full-time employee.

Significant

El Cerrito's CERT program grew from a neighborhood team created after the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake by the battalion chief now retiring, who also developed the weed abatement program.

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0:45:50during the fire seasons.

0:45:52You've given your life to saving people and saving communities.

0:45:55And we really appreciate that.

0:45:57I also love your creativity with neat and how

0:46:01you worked all the way through to the abatement process

0:46:04that we care.

0:46:05So much about now.

0:46:06It's the cornerstone of our fire Protection Program.

0:46:10And finally, I've been to many, many events with you.

0:46:14And what I love about what you've done for us

0:46:16Reno is you've brought a folksiness to your events

0:46:20even through all the people that have come to the events

0:46:23and I've brought them to the point of realizing that they

0:46:26need to be a part of the community

0:46:27and the part of chipping in to keeping our community safe.

0:46:31So congratulations.

0:46:32If I could toast you with champagne now I'd do that.

0:46:35Thank you, David.

0:46:40And Rochelle.

0:46:42I'd like to say congratulations chief.

0:46:44Gibson I know that 35 years is a long time

0:46:48to work for any place.

0:46:50And so the city of Elsa rito really appreciates you

0:46:54and like council member Keith.

0:46:57I also went through cert training.

0:47:00And it was my introduction to the city.

0:47:02So you didn't know that you were also just swanning off

0:47:06to activism and participation and civic duty

0:47:10within the city by doing the neat insert program.

0:47:14But that's how I got started.

0:47:16So thank you so much for working on that program

0:47:19and thank you for the lead abatement program.

0:47:21I know that you have made our city safer all this time

0:47:26and in your absence, you will continue to make it safe.

0:47:28So thank you gave it in a normal situation.

0:47:37I will be holding a nice, beautiful piece of paper

0:47:39up here and saying, this is for you.

0:47:44Thank you for your service.

0:47:45We would shake your hand.

0:47:47Take a photo opportunity.

0:47:49Unfortunately it has got to take a picture

0:47:51of your computer screen.

0:47:52That's as close as we're going to get.

0:47:55However, I do want to give you an opportunity

0:47:58to speak to us both recognize your time here and here

0:48:05and maybe you can tell us what your most memorable Mr Mayor

0:48:13or members of the council chief oogonia men

0:48:15and women of the Wall Street fire department

0:48:17and members of the public.

0:48:19I thank you very much for this proclamation.

0:48:23In 1985, I was given the opportunity of a lifetime

0:48:27as a 22-year-old young man and as a coming in as a firefighter

0:48:33in the city of El cerrito was just

0:48:35there was the opportunity of a lifetime.

0:48:38Throughout my 35 years, I've had the opportunity to serve

0:48:42the Department and the community in many different ways

0:48:45that I hope have made the community

0:48:48a safer place to live.

0:48:51I want to thank my wife, my family, my friends,

0:48:55my colleagues, all of us have supported

0:48:57me throughout my career.

0:48:59And it has truly been an honor and a pleasure

0:49:01to serve the community.

0:49:03And I thank you all very much.

0:49:15Here we go.

0:49:15Sorry I just have a hard time finding my butt.

0:49:19Dave, thank you very much.

0:49:21You can see everyone clapping their hands.

0:49:24You know we did take public comment earlier on this item.

0:49:29However I will if there's any members of the public or staff

0:49:34who would like to speak at this time,

0:49:37I certainly would encourage you to raise your hand we'll

0:49:39give you an opportunity to say such nice things about Mr

0:49:44Gibson.

0:49:48Stacey cornett.

0:49:53Stacey, you can go ahead.

0:49:55You are an immediate congratulations brother-in-law.

0:49:59Love you very much, and I'm very proud of you.

0:50:01Thank you for your service.

0:50:05Thank you for those kind words.

0:50:06Jerry short are you are an immediate.

0:50:12You can go ahead and speak Jerry go ahead.

0:50:26Jerry short you are able to speak.

0:50:28Go ahead.

0:50:31We're having technical difficulties hearing you

0:50:36apparently Jerry is saying very nice things about you,

0:50:38Dave Paul Keith chief.

0:50:43Gibson I just want to say that you're a true professional

0:50:45and we're really going to miss your expertise and

0:50:48a great sense of cooperation.

0:50:50So we had a really great time working with you.

0:50:53Sorry sorry to see you go anyone else at this time,

0:51:03just like to say Dave I'm really going to miss you.

0:51:05You have been like a big brother to me for my entire time here.

0:51:09I am just so happy thrilled for you,

0:51:12and I wish you only the best.

0:51:13And I will just very much miss you.

0:51:15But thank you so much for everything you've got for us.

0:51:23Thank you very much, Dave, for everything you've done.

0:51:25And I really appreciate it.

0:51:27Thank you.

0:51:31I will.

0:51:32I will mute myself.

0:51:38All right.

0:51:39That concludes item 5 a presentation

0:51:43honoring Dave Gibson in retirement of 35

0:51:46years of service to El Reno.

0:51:49He is the founder of our neat programs

0:51:52that became our biggest cert.

0:51:54So Mr Gibson thank you very much.

0:51:59And mayor, if I made it it is on the agenda to pass

0:52:02a motion to approve that.

0:52:03Oh, that's right.

0:52:04It is on there.

0:52:04Thank you.

0:52:05I see.

0:52:06So that's it.

0:52:07I'll make sure I've got the motion.

0:52:10Andi we have a motion in recognition

0:52:14of battalion chief Dave Gibson.

0:52:17And it begins with.

0:52:18Whereas Dave Gibson battalion chief has served this community

0:52:20with dedication compassion and upon the occasion

0:52:22of his upcoming retirement is deserving of recognition.

0:52:26And it concludes with now therefore,

0:52:28the city council, the city of El cerrito

0:52:30takes great pride and pleasure in drawing

0:52:32special public attention to Dave Gibson for his record

0:52:35of service to the local community

0:52:37and extends to him their sincere appreciation

0:52:40and best wishes for continued happiness

0:52:42and success in his retirement.

0:52:45Smart move of Babe Wilson seconded by Purdue Okamoto.

0:52:50All those in favor.

0:52:51Oh sorry.

0:52:52Roll call, please me a lineman.

0:52:54Yes may I pretend fidelity.

0:52:56Yes I'm a member of.

0:52:59Yes can some member patty Okamoto.

0:53:02Yes can member King too.

0:53:04Yes I think.

0:53:06Right thank you for that.

0:53:08Now that concludes.

0:53:09Item five a proclamation honoring you, Dave.

Council tributes identified his second and more consequential legacy.

One member's credit: “I also love your creativity… and how you worked all the way through to the abatement process that we care so much about now. It's the cornerstone of our fire protection program.”

It was built by the person retiring here.

The context named: the work grows “during the fire seasons. You've given your life to saving people and saving communities.”

And a quality harder to institutionalize: “you've brought a folksiness to your events,” bringing people “to the point of realizing that they need to be a part of the community.”

Two councilmembers report having taken CERT training themselves — one describing it as “my introduction to the city.”

Her assessment of the effect: it launched her into “activism and participation and civic duty.”

In July 2021 the next fire chief says he is behind on restarting volunteer programs.

The proclamation was adopted.

Significant

The fire hazard abatement program — “the cornerstone of our fire protection program,” a councilmember says — was built by the battalion chief retiring here. Two councilmembers say they took his CERT training.

08 Outreach on three platforms captions 995–1290

0:53:13And we'll now move on to item 5.

0:53:15Be real police department 2019 in review.

0:53:20We're going to receive and file a department update

0:53:23and review of our 2019 data.

0:53:25This typically occurs in the spring.

0:53:27But our spring was a little different this year.

0:53:32So chief.

0:53:34It's good to see you.

0:53:35And I know you have a presentation.

0:53:40And there was actually even that changed.

0:53:42Was it to slide 20.

0:53:43Is that what I saw.

0:53:45That's correct, sir.

0:53:46Great, thank you.

0:53:47It's all yours.

0:53:49Good evening counsel I'm Paul Keith your chief of police.

0:53:52So I'm here tonight to give you a presentation on the year 2019

0:53:56in review.

0:53:57So as the mayor said, we typically

0:53:59do this presentation around May of each year

0:54:03after we publish our annual report.

0:54:05And this year, we did publish our annual report in 2020

0:54:07but we had other things like COVID

0:54:10and the budget that took precedence in May and June

0:54:13that we want to focus on instead.

0:54:15So I'm going to share this presentation here.

0:54:25I almost have it.

0:54:26All right.

0:54:26There we go.

0:54:27I'm John.

0:54:31OK So to start with the mission of the LSU police

0:54:33department is to protect our community

0:54:35solve crime and pursue justice.

0:54:37And I think you're going to see these themes

0:54:39repeated as we talk about the different challenges.

0:54:42We face in 2019.

0:54:44And we're also going to play a bit

0:54:45of talking about the year 2020 and also

0:54:47looking forward into 2021.

0:54:49I want to give you a heads up, I'm about to show some images.

0:54:53There's going to be a few slides of them.

0:54:55And I want you to note that all of these photos

0:54:57were taken in 2019 so you're going

0:54:58to see cops without masks in close proximity to each other.

0:55:03And a members of the public.

0:55:04And it's because it happened last year.

0:55:07These are some shots taking of our graduates

0:55:10from the inner perspectives program.

0:55:12So in two perspectives as a regional leadership program

0:55:14designed for line level staff last year

0:55:18detective Ryan track and corporal

0:55:20Stephanie where were the two representatives we've

0:55:23sent from the El Reno police department courses

0:55:25about five sessions spread out over five

0:55:28months where they cover a variety of leadership topics.

0:55:31So that's the goal being that the participants come back

0:55:35to their agencies and become leaders in their organizations

0:55:38from the line level up.

0:55:42So we're very proud that both Detective track and corporal

0:55:45wear completed the program just some shots of our Explorer post

0:55:49because I love to show off shots of our Explorer post.

0:55:53They're very motivated dedicated young men

0:55:56and women who spend a lot of time getting

0:55:58back to their communities.

0:56:00Shop on your left is from 4th of July

0:56:03celebration of its retail based apart from 2019,

0:56:06where they helped staff up a dunk

0:56:07booth where I got yours truly got dunked a lot of times.

0:56:11Some of the writers from one of their training sessions

0:56:14up at the recycle yard where they were working on traffic

0:56:16stops scenarios.

0:56:20I like the shot from 2019.

0:56:22I think it really represents our officers do their community.

0:56:25Well Was this from Halloween.

0:56:27So our officers came across this young man dressed up

0:56:29in an appropriate police attire and took a second

0:56:32to take a photo with them and make sure that his mom

0:56:35got a picture of it too.

0:56:38Here's a shot from tri city safety day.

0:56:40This is one of our time safety related

0:56:43events in RStudio every year.

0:56:45This is where we go back one space police officer

0:56:48April is on the left an officer told

0:56:50him you're seeing on the right.

0:56:53And this is a traffic officer Philip rein.

0:56:55He's showing the young man how a radar gun works.

0:56:59And you can see the youngsters got

0:57:02some sunglasses and a mustache.

0:57:05We provided those who didn't come with us.

0:57:08All right.

0:57:08So let's move into some of things

0:57:10we can focus on for 2019.

0:57:13So 2019, our main areas of focus were

0:57:15disaster preparedness violent crime safety

0:57:18on the Ohlone Greenway automobile burglaries community

0:57:21outrage and continuing on our deployment

0:57:24and enforcement strategy.

0:57:26So let's talk about disaster preparedness first.

0:57:29So 2019, we collaborated with the Alfredo

0:57:33and Kensington fire departments to put out a wildfire guide.

0:57:37We also had a big push to get people

0:57:39signed up for the community Warning system.

0:57:41Every public event when we're putting out

0:57:43flyers to encourage people to sign up.

0:57:44So that they have their numbers registered with the county

0:57:47in the event of an emergency.

0:57:49We also did some tabletop exercises internally

0:57:51at the police department to plan for wildfire evacuations

0:57:56and earthquake evacuations in the realm of violent crime

0:58:01by criminals Reno primarily consists

0:58:03of assaults and robberies.

0:58:05And our main focus for violent crime reduction

0:58:08was in the areas of our commercial districts

0:58:10and our pedestrian walkways which

0:58:13is also where the Albany Greenway

0:58:15safety project came in.

0:58:17So for these three items for violent crime

0:58:21alone Greenway safety and automobile burglaries

0:58:23we really leaned heavily on our volunteer Corps.

0:58:26So we have over 20 volunteers most of them

0:58:29are residents of El cerrito.

0:58:31They're all a lot of people that like

0:58:32to give back to their community and serve their community.

0:58:35So we use our volunteers a lot in these areas.

0:58:39We had them.

0:58:40They put together some programs for us

0:58:43community awareness about crime for automobile burglaries.

0:58:47They targeted the areas where I don't feel burglaries

0:58:50were most common.

0:58:50These were front of gyms and also in front of businesses

0:58:55that people would tend to go in and out of very quickly.

0:58:59So things like cafes for people were getting coffee stores

0:59:04where somebody might be going on just for a minute like CBS

0:59:06to go get something and come right back out.

0:59:09And what we found from looking at cases

0:59:11is that typically when we were having on burglaries it

0:59:15was because people were leaving things in their car

0:59:17because they thought they're going to be gone for a moment.

0:59:20And the thieves are targeting these cars we're targeting

0:59:23those areas because they knew people were only going in

0:59:26for a minute and they have a higher

0:59:28likelihood of leaving things in their vehicle

0:59:30when they do that.

0:59:31So our volunteers got out in our commercial districts

0:59:34and passed out flyers on burglary awareness.

0:59:38They would look at people's cars and as people

0:59:40were leaving their cars.

0:59:41They would they would check and see

0:59:42that this person lost their car and they

0:59:44leave things out in the open.

0:59:45If they did, they would contact the person and say,

0:59:47hey, can I talk to you about how you just left your car you

0:59:50notice your purse is on the person's on the seat

0:59:53you notice your laptop still in the back seat.

0:59:55This is why that's a problem.

0:59:57Our volunteers also did some similar events

0:59:59on your own and Greenway.

1:00:01They would contact people that were

1:00:03out walking, biking or commuting to work or out for exercise.

1:00:09We had some flyers to pass out.

1:00:10We did some in-person interaction.

1:00:12And when our volunteers are also looking for our people

1:00:14that were displaying signs that they weren't paying

1:00:17attention to the surroundings.

1:00:18So they talked to people who were face down in their cell

1:00:21phone or they were walking and say, hey,

1:00:24just so being aware of your surroundings

1:00:27is one of the best ways to keep from being a victim of a crime.

1:00:30Give them some crime tips.

1:00:32So our volunteers are really great because they're

1:00:34just normal people.

1:00:35I mean, just like me, I'm a normal person.

1:00:37I swear badge.

1:00:37But are they really don't kill people.

1:00:39And we're looking after their own neighbors.

1:00:43So we also focused on community outreach at our events

1:00:47and also through our volunteers.

1:00:49We did some community police academies and also took

1:00:53these opportunities to do outreach with members

1:00:56of our community from police officers

1:00:58to our community members.

1:01:00In 2018 we also continue to focus on honing our deployment

1:01:05and enforcement strategy.

1:01:07This is something I previously talked

1:01:08about at a council meeting.

1:01:10But just to do a quick summary in 2018

1:01:15we took a close look at how we conduct traffic enforcement

1:01:18in the city of El cerrito and we saw that when our officers

1:01:23focused enforcement on things like license plate violations

1:01:27and registration violations.

1:01:29We saw that there would be a disparate outcome

1:01:32disparate racial outcome and the people who receive tickets

1:01:35for those types of violations.

1:01:37So we reduced our emphasis on that type of enforcement

1:01:41and instead asked officers to focus predominantly

1:01:45on moving violations.

1:01:46These are things that are unsafe driving.

1:01:49So there are violations like stop

1:01:50running a stop sign running a red light

1:01:53making unsafe turns speeding.

1:01:57We asked our officers are folks on these unsafe violations

1:01:59instead in the belief that they would have their outcomes.

1:02:06The racial outcomes from those traffic stops

1:02:09would more closely match the demographics of our community.

1:02:12So we focused on that really on the laser focus in 2019

1:02:19and there's going to be some slides coming up.

1:02:21It's going to show some of the results

1:02:22that we achieved from changing that enforcement focus.

1:02:26We also changed how we responded to calls for service.

1:02:31We deemphasize some low level responses.

1:02:33It didn't mean that we did go to low level criminal incidents,

1:02:37but we didn't entirely focus on low level crimes.

1:02:41And we also tried to focus on empowering our businesses

1:02:46and the managers that run our businesses to take

1:02:49the lead role and being responsible for the safety

1:02:51and security of our businesses.

1:02:54So instead of having the police department be the problem

1:02:58solver for every issue that came up at a business,

1:03:01we would bring the managers and the store owners

1:03:05into the problem solving loop.

1:03:09So that they would be the ones ultimately

1:03:11responsible for how crimes were enforced in their businesses.

1:03:16And how their businesses are going to be

1:03:17safe and secure going forward.

1:03:20Some examples of this.

1:03:22I'll give you an example from Philadelphia

1:03:25and an example from Ilse rito actually changed our focus

1:03:28in Philadelphia around 2017.

1:03:31Gentleman came into the business.

1:03:33He wanted to use the bathroom.

1:03:35Ultimately the store manager wanted him to leave because he

1:03:38had an order to drink.

1:03:40The manager called the police department.

1:03:41The police department came there and place the guy

1:03:44under arrest for trespassing.

1:03:47So that I want to compare that now to Elsa rito post

1:03:53this deployment change.

1:03:55We also got a call to a cafe shortly

1:03:57after we started doing things differently in that call.

1:04:01We we showed up at the business.

1:04:03They said, we have an unwanted person here.

1:04:05We would like you to tell that person

1:04:07to either turn down their music or leave the business.

1:04:13And so we told the manager that that is not our responsibility.

1:04:17Whether or not you want a customer in your business

1:04:19is your responsibility.

1:04:21Having loud music in a cafe is not against the law.

1:04:25So you are perfectly allowed to make decisions

1:04:28about who are your customers.

1:04:30If you need us because a crime has occurred.

1:04:32You can call us and we'll come back.

1:04:34But this is not a criminal incident

1:04:36and we didn't even talk to the customer

1:04:38because it was not a criminal incident.

1:04:40So those are two examples.

1:04:42One of how we looked at what another police

1:04:44department did and saw ways that we could improve it.

1:04:48And to how we really are focusing on not taking

1:04:53in police and government action in instances

1:04:56where a crime has not occurred.

1:05:00And we will talk a bit more about some crimes in a moment.

1:05:07There we go.

1:05:08OK So this is a slide that talks about some

1:05:11of our outreach stats and kind of as

1:05:13a companion piece to our community outreach efforts.

1:05:17So we use three primary platforms

1:05:20for getting the word out about what the police department does

1:05:23and what types of crimes are happening

1:05:25in people's communities.

1:05:27Nick so Twitter and Instagram.

1:05:29So most people are pretty familiar with Twitter

1:05:32and Instagram.

1:05:33Our officers tend to use Instagram

1:05:36for photo friendly things at the police department is doing.

1:05:42And we tend to use Nick's on Twitter

1:05:43for breaking police actions that we really want

1:05:47people to pay attention to.

1:05:49So Nick so it is our preferred platform for official releases

1:05:53from the police department.

1:05:54That's where we put our crime blotters.

1:05:57That's where we post information like street closures

1:06:00due to criminal activity.

1:06:02That's where we put out our press releases.

1:06:05Nick soul is followed pretty religiously by the media

1:06:08organizations in the Bay Area.

1:06:10And we put something down on Nick so we usually

1:06:12get a pretty quick response.

1:06:13If the media is interested in it.

1:06:16And it gives us an opportunity to connect with them

1:06:18and give them more information about a story.

1:06:21So last year, we saw a really large increase

1:06:23in our Nick so following.

1:06:24And we think that had a lot to do with getting the word out

1:06:27about wildfires and putting out the evacuation guide and people

1:06:31getting more information from us about Nixon and Twitter

1:06:34and Instagram are kind of naturally

The police chief opened the 2019 review, explaining why it was delayed.

The normal timing: “we typically do this presentation around May of each year after we publish our annual report.”

What displaced it: “we had other things like COVID and the budget that took precedence in May and June.”

The department's stated mission: “to protect our community, solve crime and pursue justice.”

He described one principle running through the presentation: not taking “police and government action in instances where a crime has not occurred.”

The 2019 focus areas were disaster preparedness, violent crime, the Ohlone Greenway, auto burglaries, outreach and enforcement strategy. More than 20 volunteers ran auto burglary awareness work at cafes and gyms. Since 2018 officers had focused on moving violations rather than registration violations, and businesses were asked to handle unwanted customers themselves: a cafe calling about loud music was told that “this is not a criminal incident.”

On communication, the department uses three platforms with distinct purposes. Instagram for “photo friendly things.”

Twitter for “breaking police actions that we really want people to pay attention to.”

And Nixle as “our preferred platform for official releases… that's where we put our crime blotters… street closures due to criminal activity… our press releases,” followed “pretty religiously by the media.”

He also noted improvements adopted from watching other departments.

Significant

The chief's stated principle: not taking “police and government action in instances where a crime has not occurred.” Businesses are expected to manage unwanted customers who have committed no crime.

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1:06:35growing over the years.

1:06:37But we are really happy to see that there's a lot of people

1:06:39tune into Nick so the big difference between Twitter Nick

1:06:42so Twitter and Instagram is that Twitter

1:06:44and Instagram have a feed.

1:06:46And so if you're not paying attention to the feed

1:06:48or if you follow a lot of things things will tend to scroll down

1:06:52or if you have a lot of people you follow.

1:06:54You may not even see information from one of the people

1:06:56you're following Nixon on the other hand primarily

1:07:00communicates through email.

1:07:01So it's a much better guarantee that people are going

1:07:04to get the information from Nick Solak they may still make

1:07:08the decision in their email that I

1:07:09don't want to open that email.

1:07:11But they're going to see that there is something

1:07:12from the police department.

1:07:13And if it says community important.

1:07:15We think that there's a higher chance

1:07:16of people actually open it up.

1:07:19All right.

1:07:20So we talk about the areas of focus.

1:07:23We also saw that there were some trends

1:07:24in 2019 that really stood out from the areas

1:07:28that we focused on.

1:07:29The first one was catalytic converter theft

1:07:31and this is something that continues into 2020.

1:07:33It is a constant background.

1:07:37Crime is happening not just in El Serino

1:07:39but in most of the agencies in the Bay Area.

1:07:43So 2019, our detectives got some leads

1:07:48on a Cadillac converter theft ring that

1:07:50was working in the Bay Area.

1:07:53We really face an epidemic of catalytic converter thefts.

1:07:57We have ID identifying a primary trafficker

1:07:59of catalytic converters.

1:08:01This is a person who was buying these catalytic converters

1:08:05from people that were cutting them off of cars stockpiling

1:08:08piling up a large amount of them.

1:08:09And then taking them out of the Bay Area

1:08:11to recycle them and get money for all these Cali converters.

1:08:15And it is a pretty lucrative business.

1:08:18Our detectives have identified a person they authored a series

1:08:21of search warrants at residential and storage

1:08:23locations arresting two people for the case.

1:08:27In the process or we confiscated 785 catalytic converters that

1:08:32have been loaded up and we're ready to be transported

1:08:34to a recycling center.

1:08:35The total value of that, if we were

1:08:37to take them to a recycling place was around $350,000.

1:08:42So catalytic converters are quite valuable on the recycling

1:08:46market and the real tragedy is while somebody might get 500

1:08:51or $800,800 for a stolen Prius catalytic converter

1:08:57it costs that owner in the realm of $3,000

1:09:01to get their catalytic converter replaced.

1:09:04So some of the things that we did last year

1:09:07to try to increase awareness is we put

1:09:09things out on our social media.

1:09:11We gave people tips on how they can install

1:09:13security devices on their cars.

1:09:15I will tell you that if you have a Prius

1:09:17I highly recommend that you look into some ways

1:09:20to secure your catalytic converter because it's not just

1:09:23no street overnight where your Cadillac

1:09:25inverter might be at risk.

1:09:26It's anywhere you might park it going shopping in the Bay Area

1:09:30really are a hot commodity on the criminal market.

1:09:36So we made an impact in that case.

1:09:38We continue to try to apprehend people

1:09:40when we can and we arrest people for catalytic converters

1:09:43from time to time.

1:09:44One of the challenging parts is we confiscated

1:09:48785 highlight converters.

1:09:50It's a tremendous number of Catholic converters

1:09:52but it is very hard to try to match up those individual car

1:09:56parts with a victim vehicle.

1:09:59These things are not serialized to match

1:10:02up with any particular cars.

1:10:04They're just a part that gets put on a car.

1:10:06So linking those actual catalytic converters up

1:10:10to a victim is a very hard challenge,

1:10:13and it's something that's not easy.

1:10:15So a couple of years ago that state legislature

1:10:19made some real changes about how recyclers accept these parts.

1:10:23I'm hoping that as this trend continues that the state

1:10:26legislature might take on some additional actions

1:10:29require the carmakers serialize these things

1:10:32and connect them to specific cars.

1:10:34So that when we come across stolen calico murder.

1:10:36We can actually link it to a victim

1:10:38and complete the element of the crime.

1:10:42Also homeless.

1:10:43Homeless victimization was also a trend in 2019

1:10:46a very unfortunate trend.

1:10:48In particular, we had three violent crimes

1:10:52they targeted homeless people and some of the perpetrators

1:10:55for the crimes were also people that were potentially suffering

1:10:59from elements of homelessness or definitely housing insecurity.

1:11:03So we investigated a stabbing that occurred on San Pablo

1:11:06Avenue of a homeless man at the old Taco Bell a lot,

1:11:12which is looking at the North end of town near the city limit

1:11:15with Richman a homeless woman was

1:11:18sleeping in her car at night when somebody lit it on fire.

1:11:21She luckily survived as well as the gentleman who was stabbed.

1:11:26And we also had a murder that happened on San Pablo Avenue

1:11:28a homeless gentleman was murdered on Central

1:11:30Avenue near metro Avenue so in two of those incidents

1:11:35we identified the suspects and we're able to arrest

1:11:38them and pursue charges.

1:11:41The fire incident is still under investigation.

1:11:43And we don't have great leads on that.

1:11:45But our detectives still work on that in this.

1:11:49When I say homelessness these are just three instances

1:11:51happen in those rito but there is a greater trend

1:11:54of homelessness victimization that is occurring

1:11:57in neighboring cities as well.

1:11:58So it wasn't just homeless people that resided

1:12:01in and around our streets.

1:12:03It was also a significant trend that was happening in Richmond

1:12:08and San Pablo as well 2019 auto burglaries were also

1:12:13a definite increasing trend.

1:12:16So every year, we have a meeting of department supervisory

1:12:23and management leadership, where we talk about the areas

1:12:25that we want to focus on for the year.

1:12:27And we decided we focus on not only our burglaries

1:12:30and almost immediately saw a significant uptick

1:12:33in automobile burglaries.

1:12:35So some of the ways that we try to combat auto works

1:12:39was through our education efforts

1:12:41that already talked about using our department volunteers

1:12:43and officers and also through really doing

1:12:46targeted surveillance and patrol in those parts of the city

1:12:51where car burglaries were prevalent.

1:12:53So we spent a lot of time in coffee shop parking lots

1:12:56both doing surveillance and doing visible patrol

1:13:00around the gyms and also rito and in

1:13:03or around our big commercial parking lots

1:13:06to try to make an impact overall as the year went on.

1:13:10They tended to trend Downward.

1:13:12However we did see a 20% increase in automobile

1:13:14burglaries last year.

1:13:16We had 256 in 2018 we had 307 and 2019.

1:13:20So it's a lot of people who had things stolen their vehicle

1:13:24and had windows broken.

1:13:27All right.

1:13:27I'm going to switch gears a little bit

1:13:29to some information on ticket trends

1:13:33arrest trends and use of force trends.

1:13:35So to start out with, I'd like to talk

1:13:38a little about some regional demographics.

1:13:40So one of the challenges to looking at arrest rates

1:13:44and ticket rates unless Reno is trying to figure out what

1:13:48are exempt far demographics should be.

1:13:53So these photographs represent the demographics.

1:13:58And this is kind of big group demographics

1:14:00is not completely split up.

1:14:02But I wanted to show you some general numbers.

1:14:05So that we could have a discussion about it.

1:14:08So these are regional demographics

1:14:09for four different entities.

1:14:10The first one is the city of El cerrito.

1:14:12So these are people that reside in El cerrito

1:14:15lay their heads down streets at night.

1:14:17These statistics are from the Census Bureau

1:14:19and these are all as of population.

1:14:22The second number is the population of students

1:14:24at the National high school.

1:14:25And this is from the school accountability report card

1:14:27for 2018 to 2019, which was the most recent one that

1:14:30was up on the district website.

1:14:33The next chart is for the West Contra Costa Unified

1:14:36School district student body.

1:14:41And this is from their numbers for 2018 2019.

1:14:45And the last chart is a modern day El street OPD.

1:14:48As of last week when I made this chart.

1:14:52So when I try to tackle the idea of figuring

1:14:56out what our demographic breakdown should look like.

1:15:01I tend to prefer looking at the population for our high school

1:15:04because the community that we serve as the El street police

1:15:07department is not just the people who put their heads down

1:15:09and no street at night.

1:15:11It's also the people that shop in El

1:15:12Serino that work in our Serino whose kids go to school.

1:15:16And I was rito who themselves are learning

1:15:18and rito and people that use Dorado as a commuting hub

1:15:23to get to wherever it is that they're going for.

1:15:28So high school draws its population,

1:15:30not just from our street.

1:15:31But also from Kensington and also

1:15:33from a number of neighborhoods in neighboring Richmond

1:15:37and even farther out.

1:15:38There are some students that come from the and from father

1:15:43further flung areas do you happen to have

1:15:45El Serino is that the best place to go

1:15:47their students go to school.

1:15:50And I think that also read out from both my personal

1:15:54observations and looking at mine and looking

1:15:57at the numbers of activity from police department.

1:16:00I'm not sure your high school is a pretty

1:16:02good representation of the people

1:16:04that we see in our town every day.

1:16:06It isn't just the population that sleeps here it's

1:16:10everyone else that really encompasses

1:16:11the whole street community.

He reported a catalytic converter theft ring broken up, with 785 converters seized worth about $350,000, and three violent crimes against homeless people — a stabbing, a car set on fire with a woman sleeping inside, and a murder — part of a trend “happening in Richmond and San Pablo as well.”

Auto burglaries were “a definite increasing trend,” up 20 percent from 256 to 307 despite targeted patrols.

The chief then explained how he built the demographic comparison.

He presented four populations. First, El Cerrito residents — “people that reside in El Cerrito, lay their heads down… at night,” from Census Bureau figures.

Second, the student body at the local high school, from “the school accountability report card for 2018 to 2019.”

Third, the West Contra Costa Unified district's whole student body.

And fourth, the composition of the police department itself, “as of last week when I made this chart.”

His preference was the high school, because the community the department serves “is not just the people who put their heads down” in El Cerrito at night but those who shop, work, study or commute there.

Significant

The chief compares enforcement demographics against four populations and prefers the El Cerrito High School student body, because the community the department serves includes people who shop, work, study or commute through the city.

10 “Quite alarmed at the trend” captions 1495–1572

1:16:15So let's start by talking about traffic ticket trends.

1:16:18So as I talked about earlier in 2018

1:16:20we had an internal review and focus changed

1:16:25for how we write tickets and what we prioritize

1:16:28and the tickets that we write.

1:16:30So we're no longer talking about 4 centimeters.

1:16:33Now we're talking about raw numbers.

1:16:36So in 2017 there was a significant focus

1:16:39among officers for riding violations

1:16:43for things like license plates not having registration

1:16:47stickers or have an expired registration in 2018

1:16:50after looking at the numbers from 2017

1:16:52and being quite alarmed at the trend that represented

1:16:55that black motorists where the predominant

1:16:58you know the most likely to get tickets

1:17:01was to veto compared to other groups.

1:17:04That certainly doesn't match our regional trends

1:17:06and was an alarming data set for me

1:17:08to see when we started having conversations about halfway

1:17:11through the year and reorient our officers to focusing

1:17:15on moving violations and unsafe driving in 2019

1:17:20represented a full year of really focusing

1:17:22on unsafe driving and deemphasizing

1:17:25the focus on license plate and registration violations.

1:17:29And one thing I'd like to point out

1:17:31is that when I talked about this in person

1:17:34and didn't have a beautiful chart in front of me.

1:17:36So people got the impression that we

1:17:37don't write tickets anymore.

1:17:38We just stopped writing tickets.

1:17:40We don't do it anymore.

1:17:41And so that's what I want to do total number of tickets issued.

1:17:43We absolutely still write tickets there.

1:17:45There is plenty of unsafe driving

1:17:47that occurs in El Reno and the numbers

1:17:50some 2017 in 2019 for total tickets issued

1:17:53are actually very similar.

1:17:54They're different by about 150 tickets.

1:17:57The big change has been the demographics of the tickets

1:18:01people who receive tickets and to go back a slide if we're

1:18:06once again, thinking of the demographics of the street

1:18:08or high school the breakdown of tickets that we issued in 2019

1:18:14is very similar to the breakdown of our high school population.

1:18:20So for me, this is a much more accessible looking chart.

1:18:25And it also, I think highlights some of the challenges

1:18:29of getting to the heart of what the demographic model is

1:18:33that we should be using for El Serino so let's

1:18:36continue to talk about restaurants.

1:18:42So when we looked at arrest trends

1:18:45and looked at our response to calls alone there we go.

1:18:51One of the things that really jumps out and had

1:18:54some conversations with some members

1:18:56of some community groups about the disparate outcome we

1:19:03get an address.

1:19:06So 2017 in particular is a good example of how black offenders

1:19:16were arrested at a much higher rate than members

1:19:20of other racial groups in 2018.

1:19:24Once again, we talked about how the types of calls

1:19:26we were responding to and the types of enforcement actions

1:19:29that we were taking some of the things

1:19:32that we saw just as an example is we might get called

1:19:36to a grocery store in the grocery store

1:19:38would say something like this person just

1:19:42Stole something from the store.

1:19:44We need the cops to come to arrest them.

1:19:47So police officers would get there.

1:19:49And let's say in this example, the person is in the parking

1:19:51lot when they see the police.

1:19:53They take off running and the police officer does.

1:19:55You know it's a police officer who does that he

1:19:57matches the description.

1:19:58This is probably the third suspect.

1:20:00Let's go apprehend the person and they'd

1:20:02apprehend the person and perhaps the person

1:20:05would have the stolen property on them

1:20:07and the people from the store would come over and say,

1:20:09well, all we wanted was this stuff back.

1:20:11We don't actually want to do anything about it.

The presentation's central finding is one the department made about itself.

The starting position: in 2017 there was “a significant focus among officers for” citing “things like license plates not having registration stickers, or hav[ing] an expired registration.”

Then what the numbers showed. Reviewing 2017, he was “quite alarmed at the trend that represented”: that “black motorists” were “the most likely to get tickets” in El Cerrito “compared to other groups.”

His assessment of it: “that certainly doesn't match our regional trends, and was an alarming data set for me to see.”

What followed: conversations “halfway through the year” and a decision to “reorient our officers to focusing on moving violations and unsafe driving,” deemphasizing “license plate and registration violations.”

So 2019 represents “a full year of really focusing on unsafe driving.”

Total tickets in 2017 and 2019 differed by only about 150, and the 2019 breakdown was very similar to the high school's population. Arrests showed the same 2017 pattern: Black people were arrested at a much higher rate than other groups.

He corrected a misunderstanding from earlier in-person presentations: “people got the impression that we don't write tickets anymore… we absolutely still” do.

Significant

Black motorists were the group most likely to be ticketed in El Cerrito in 2017, which the chief calls “an alarming data set” out of line with regional trends, and which led him to redirect enforcement from registration violations to moving violations.

11 The biggest reduction captions 1573–1757

1:20:14However, we do have a charge for resisting arrest

1:20:17and a crime did in fact occur.

1:20:20The victim now just doesn't want to press charges on it.

1:20:23So we said, this is not a good outcome.

1:20:27We don't want to have incidents where we're stopping people

1:20:31where we're detaining people where we're

1:20:33creating these moments where you arrest

1:20:38gives resisted by a person.

1:20:40We want it to go to bonafide crimes

1:20:43in kind of a companion piece that we

1:20:44saw from stores is that.

1:20:46Someone in the store would see something

1:20:47and they believed that they Stole however

1:20:51they didn't actually witness the person stealing

1:20:53but because they believe the person

1:20:55Stole they would call the police and we would get there.

1:20:57And someone would get detained and then we

1:20:59would learn that person didn't.

1:21:00In fact steal from the store.

1:21:03And now a person has been detained and inconvenienced

1:21:05and nobody actually saw that take place.

1:21:08So we changed how we responded to calls

1:21:11and we deemphasize a huge wide scale

1:21:15you know full team response to low level incidents.

1:21:19We would still go to all calls involving a criminal case.

1:21:22We just wouldn't send five cops necessarily.

1:21:25We might send one or two police officers to go

1:21:28and we test them with getting meeting

1:21:30with the witness to the crime and confirming

1:21:32that a crime actually occurred before we started detaining

1:21:35people outside of stores.

1:21:38So 2017 2018 2019.

1:21:42There was a big change in demographics and people

1:21:46who were arrested in town the group that saw the biggest

1:21:49change were black arrestees.

1:21:52They went down significantly.

1:21:55And were the group that had the biggest reduction 2017 to 2019.

1:21:59Now I will say this is a bit of an experiment

1:22:02and we're still continuing to hone and review how we respond

1:22:07to calls to make sure that we're having the impact

1:22:10that we want to have.

1:22:12Another element that I want to point out that does happen

1:22:15in these numbers is that warrant arrests

1:22:19also show up in these numbers.

1:22:21But wouldn't show up in our overall crime statistics.

1:22:25So the reason why that's important

1:22:27is that in doing some analysis of our arrests

1:22:30we found things like let's call him.

1:22:33Let's call a person John Smith John Smith gets arrested

1:22:36for stealing from a grocery store

1:22:38in El Serino we give John Smith, the ticket to show up.

1:22:42And we call John Doe John Doe a ticket to show up in court John

1:22:46Doe doesn't show up in court and gets a warrant

1:22:49issued for his arrest.

1:22:51When we see John Doe.

1:22:52Next he has a warrant.

1:22:54So he gets arrested again on the warrant

1:22:56and gets a new ticket with a new court date to send him to court

1:23:00and gets released with a ticket when John Doe doesn't show up

1:23:03for court again, then a judge might issue larger

1:23:06monetary warrant or they might issue

1:23:08was called a no bail word after two failures to appear.

1:23:12The judge may say you can't let this person go on a ticket

1:23:14anymore.

1:23:14And they have to be taken into custody and sure enough,

1:23:16if we arrest John Doe on the warrant next time.

1:23:19Now, John Doe is going to county jail

1:23:22and we've now arrested the same person 4 times 4 the one crime

1:23:27that is not a great way to resolve cases.

1:23:33It's the reality of how the justice system works.

1:23:37But the outcome is not ideal.

1:23:39It's not really what we want to see.

1:23:40We want people when they get arrested

1:23:41to be able to go to court and get the case taken care of.

1:23:44However, is going to be taken care.

1:23:46So while the demographics of our arrest

1:23:51still don't quite match up with Wall

1:23:53Street or high school, which is to be exemplary I like to use.

1:23:58They are trending in the right direction.

1:24:00And we still have a lot of work to do to keep looking at.

1:24:04What are some of the causes behind arrests

1:24:06and what are some things that we can do to bring

1:24:10our numbers down ideally.

1:24:12Because we do want to arrest fewer people,

1:24:14ideally and look at some of the trends that might be happening.

1:24:18One other thing I'd like to point out on arrests

1:24:20is that many of these arrests are the result

1:24:23of a call for service.

1:24:24So this is somebody in a store who's seen a crime happen

1:24:28or this is somebody who's a resident

1:24:30that has seen a crime happen.

1:24:31And it's called the police and their call is what

1:24:34results in the police action.

1:24:36So police absolutely do drive around and see

1:24:40crimes and make arrests.

1:24:42But many, many calls we get come from community members

1:24:45either people working or people living or shopping

1:24:49elsewhere you know calling the police on other people,

1:24:51they see they're committing crimes.

1:24:55So this year was the first year, we did a use of force

1:24:58report we put out a report in about August

1:25:02that had the last three years of our use of force trends.

1:25:05So in big numbers for people they're

1:25:08interested in the use of force report they

1:25:09can find it at our website.

1:25:11It's an element that we plan to include

1:25:13in future annual reports and we hope to dive deeper into some

1:25:18of the numbers and incidents to give

1:25:21a more in-depth look at use of force trends

1:25:25and on street read.

1:25:27We only want to delve more into the eye the why the for use

1:25:31of force happens is this.

1:25:34Why does somebody choose to run from the police.

1:25:36Why did somebody resist arrest.

1:25:38Why didn't officer feel this use of force was necessary,

1:25:42but what are the big trends we see is that over the last three

1:25:46years, we've had declining incidents

1:25:48represent on the left side.

1:25:49So these are an individual incident

1:25:52in which use of use of force was used force was used

1:25:57and the chart on the right represents

1:26:00the number of times and types of force used in each incident.

1:26:04So to explain this.

1:26:07If we had 22 uses of force in 2017

1:26:11in 20 to use of force incidents in 2017

1:26:16there were either multiple officers using force

1:26:20in that incident or there were individual officers

1:26:23who were using different techniques to resolve it.

1:26:26So an officer might use control holds a takedown

1:26:30technique and pepper spray.

1:26:32That would be one incident.

1:26:34But it would result in 3 use of force records

1:26:38what the things we're really talking about later

1:26:40is that we are going to revamp how we investigate

1:26:45use of force incidents.

1:26:47Right now, we rely on supervisors

1:26:49to conduct an investigation after a use of force incident

1:26:52began in January, we intend to have detectives assigned

1:26:55to respond to every use of force incident

1:26:58and to actually conduct the investigation

1:27:00into the circumstances surrounding the use of force.

1:27:03So what I hope to get from that is a deeper analysis

1:27:08a deeper look at why uses of force

1:27:11occur and why they occur at the rates they do overall,

1:27:15we use force in about two to 2 and 1/2 of our arrests.

1:27:21So we had 14 uses of force in 2019.

1:27:25We had just under 600 arrest in the industry.

1:27:34You typically see rates of about 3% higher

1:27:38for uses of force in other agencies.

1:27:41So that would mean that we use force

1:27:43a little bit below average compared to other departments

1:27:47in the country.

1:27:51All right.

1:27:52We're going to jump in to some statistical mean,

1:27:56some graphs on larceny burglary and robbery,

1:28:00larceny being the most common crime

1:28:01and also Fredo larceny represents crimes

1:28:05like shoplifting stealing packages from porches going

1:28:12into unlocked cars and stealing things

1:28:14out of cars going into cars and stealing things out of cars.

1:28:20So compared to last year, our numbers of thefts

1:28:25remained about steady.

1:28:27I think we went down about 0.1% or 0.2% Predominantly

1:28:33we're looking at shoplifting incidents here

1:28:35and things like packaged things are fairly stable.

1:28:402014 was when proposition 47 was passed

1:28:43in that did a lot to reduce the penalties

1:28:47for larceny incidents.

1:28:50It reduced the penalties for shoplifting in particular.

1:28:53And following that, we're not alone in seeing an upward trend

1:28:56in things like shoplifting.

1:28:58It really has become a great issue for agencies

1:29:01across the country, across country.

1:29:03But across the state.

1:29:05But one of the things we have been working with stores to do

1:29:08is to increase their security presence

1:29:12to help deter shoplifting incidents from occurring

1:29:17burglary also has been pretty steady

1:29:18for the last three years.

1:29:20So burglaries are when people go into businesses after hours

1:29:24and break into the business and steal things from the inside.

1:29:28But most commonly, we see burglaries are residences

1:29:32in town that are getting broken into for people

1:29:36that are interested.

1:29:37Burglaries tend to have residential burglaries

A second change concerned when officers detain someone, and it produced a measurable result.

The new practice: sending one or two officers rather than a full team to low-level calls, and “meeting with the witness to the crime and confirming that a crime actually occurred before we started detaining people outside of stores.”

The result across 2017 to 2019: a big change in the demographics of people arrested. “The group that saw the biggest change were black arrestees. They went down significantly.”

His own caution about claiming too much: “this is a bit of an experiment and we're still continuing to hone and review how we respond to calls, to make sure that we're having the impact that we want to have.”

And a technical caveat: “warrant arrests also show up in these numbers, but wouldn't show up in our overall crime statistics.”

So one person who misses court can be arrested four times for one crime: “the outcome is not ideal.” The department published its first use of force report in August: 14 uses of force in 2019 against just under 600 arrests, and from January detectives would investigate every use of force.

Burglary and robbery trends were reported as steady, with residential burglaries concentrated in daytime hours “while people are away at work.”

Significant

Requiring a witness to confirm a crime before detaining someone outside a store coincided with the largest reduction in arrests falling on Black arrestees, 2017–2019. The chief calls it “a bit of an experiment” still being reviewed.

12 What lockdown did to crime captions 1758–1913

1:29:39tend to happen during the day while people

1:29:42are away at work in 2020.

1:29:46Burglaries tend to happen much less

1:29:48often because no one is away because hardly

1:29:52anyone is at work.

1:29:54Many many more people are at home,

1:29:56which reduces the opportunity for burglars

1:30:00to break into houses.

1:30:02So next year when I give these presentations,

1:30:04you're going to see a dramatic dip

1:30:05in all these different types of crimes

1:30:07because the opportunity to commit the crimes

1:30:10is very limited.

1:30:11Now robbery likely likewise had a small decline this year,

1:30:19a robbery trend 10 continues to be very connected to incidents

1:30:23in which someone commits a petty theft

1:30:25that turns into a robbery.

1:30:27When a security guard tries to stop them or a store employee

1:30:29starts to stop them.

1:30:31So for people's understanding not only

1:30:34if you just walk into a store, take an item off the shelf

1:30:36and walk out with the item that's a misdemeanor,

1:30:38that's petty theft.

1:30:40If while you're walking out you shove or threaten a store

1:30:45employee that elevates the crime to a robbery,

1:30:48which is a felony and a much more significant crime.

1:30:51So many of the robberies that we've seen in the last three

1:30:55years have been these types of petty theft calls

1:30:59that have been elevated into robberies based

1:31:01on the actions of the suspect.

1:31:05All right.

1:31:06So part of the annual report is we'd

1:31:08like to give annual updates on some key components.

1:31:11Some key areas that are of counsel interest.

1:31:14First of all, I talk about sanctuary city.

1:31:16We continue to train our new officers

1:31:18in the sanctuary city resolution put

1:31:20forward by the city council.

1:31:22And I can report that we had no collaboration

1:31:25with the US immigrations and Customs Enforcement in 2019

1:31:30on the body.

1:31:30One camera front.

1:31:31We did see some changes in the last in 2019.

1:31:36We continue to do things that we choose audits our footage.

1:31:39We continue to heavily use body worn

1:31:41camera footage in our internal investigations

1:31:44do a lot of training on body cameras.

1:31:46We've been responding to public records request for body camera

1:31:50footage because some new laws that require footage

1:31:54to be released in certain incidents

1:31:57where the big changes that we changed vendors in our body

1:31:59worn cameras.

1:32:00So we were using the view previously,

1:32:03we're now using axon reason we're

1:32:05using axon his axon bot view.

1:32:08So we can continue on with the same company

1:32:11but use modern cameras that had been updated.

1:32:16The nice side effect of using axon

1:32:19is that it allows us to better coordinate

1:32:21with the district attorney.

1:32:23So instead of having to create physical disks DVD of all

1:32:30of our camera footage that we would have to physically take

1:32:32over to the district attorney's office

1:32:34We can now do everything digitally.

1:32:37So we can share directly from our evidence storage

1:32:40with the district attorney and also

1:32:42likewise with the public defender's office.

1:32:45So that it cuts down on both employee time of having to make

1:32:48those disks and also on the physical creation

1:32:51of these disks and the cost associated with them.

1:32:54The other thing that we've been able to achieve

1:32:57with the district attorney is paperless filing as well.

1:33:01So we've dramatically reduced the amount of paper

1:33:03that we're creating with reports and using

1:33:06a similar system to share reports

1:33:08with the district attorney.

1:33:09So by our cameras have been a great change

1:33:12agent with the DA's office because it really did.

1:33:15Once the agencies were adopted by worn

1:33:17cameras across the county became a very consuming work.

1:33:21To be able to manage all of those pieces of evidence.

1:33:25The other thing that is a late addition to this.

1:33:27And I'm sorry is not on the slide,

1:33:29but I want to talk about our drone program.

1:33:32So about this time last year, I came to council

1:33:36and gave a presentation on the drone

1:33:38that we had purchased and were planning to use

1:33:40and also rito in the last year, we

1:33:42had been using it for a number of different incidents.

1:33:46If you're interested in the types of deployments

1:33:48and the specifics of them.

1:33:49We keep all of our logs online.

1:33:51So if you want to see Oh, what did the police department

1:33:53look at in October where they use their drone on

1:33:56we log all of our flights in on the website.

1:33:59So at the end of each month, we compile all the incidents

1:34:02and then post them.

1:34:04So some of the things that we've used drones

1:34:05for in the last year to search for missing people

1:34:08the search for armed suspects the search for burglary

1:34:10suspects I would say that the predominant use for it has been

1:34:15overhead evidence work to take boats

1:34:17to take photographs of crime scenes

1:34:19and also to help search for evidence.

1:34:21We had one incident where we were.

1:34:25There was a possibility that after chasing an armed

1:34:27suspect that the person threw the gun up on top of a roof.

1:34:33We haven't yet located the guns that we talked with residents

1:34:35let them know that we wanted to fly

1:34:38our drone up in the air to search for the roof's

1:34:40along cougar field.

1:34:41They all said they were fine with it.

1:34:43Ultimately we didn't find the gun,

1:34:44but it was a great tool to use as opposed to putting that go

1:34:48into people's yards and putting ladders up on roofs

1:34:50and climbing up there and searching around on manually

1:34:54firefighters are going to ladders.

1:34:56Cops aren't always necessarily good with ladders.

1:34:58So the drone has been a great tool for things

1:35:00like that as well.

1:35:03Once I got some changes in progress.

1:35:05And this is for 2020 and definitely moving forward

1:35:07into 2021 the first thing is that we change

1:35:11how we do are added an oversight component

1:35:14to our internal affairs investigations.

1:35:17So now at the completion of a internal investigation.

1:35:22I as the chief of police write up

1:35:24a summary of the investigation and the outcome

1:35:26of the investigation and the reasons for the outcome.

1:35:29And I send that summary to the city manager for her review.

1:35:33Now it is understood that if there's any part of the summary

1:35:37that requires additional investigation or review

1:35:40by the city manager that those files are available to her

1:35:44to look into and this is something that we

1:35:47just added in September.

1:35:51And so we have concluded some internal affairs

1:35:53investigations already and I've been

1:35:54studying those summaries over.

1:35:56And I think that from my perspective

1:35:59as the chief of police.

1:36:01It has been a great moment to kind of share

1:36:04on a more regular basis.

1:36:06The types of investigations we're engaging in and some

1:36:11of the reasoning that our investigators use when they

1:36:14make decisions on whether or not an investigation is sustained

1:36:17or not sustained or unfounded or whatever

1:36:20the resolution might be.

1:36:22So so far, that has definitely been a positive change.

1:36:26And I think that the I got on top for the city manager.

1:36:29But I think she probably feels much more engaged

1:36:31in the internal affairs investigation process

1:36:33with the police department.

1:36:35One of the big things that has been

1:36:36going on in the background.

1:36:38And this has been with not just police

1:36:39from the city's other members of city staff is working.

The chief forecast the following year's figures, and the explanation is about opportunity.

On burglaries: they “tend to happen during the day while people are away at work.”

So in 2020 they “happen much less often because no one is away because hardly anyone is at work.”

His forecast: “next year when I give these presentations, you're going to see a dramatic dip in all these different types of crimes because the opportunity to commit the crimes is very limited.”

On robbery, he explained a category boundary most people get wrong: a “petty theft… turns into a robbery when a security guard tries to stop them or a store employee” does.

Annual updates followed: no collaboration with Immigration and Customs Enforcement in 2019; body cameras switched to Axon, letting footage be shared digitally with the district attorney; drone flights logged monthly on the website; and, since September, summaries of internal affairs investigations sent to the City Manager.

Significant

The chief forecasts “a dramatic dip” in 2020 crime because lockdown limits opportunity, and reports a new oversight step: summaries of internal affairs investigations now go to the City Manager.

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1:36:43So I is talking about public defender first.

1:36:45So we have been we've been working with the Contra Costa

1:36:50County Public defender on implementing a program in El

1:36:54Serino that the public defender has been

1:36:55doing with some other agencies.

1:36:57So the public fund research and the early representation

1:37:01program with the Richmond Police Department and Antioch police

1:37:03department about two years ago.

1:37:05And so what this program looked like in its early days

1:37:10is it's intended to solve the problem that I talked about

1:37:14earlier, where a person is arrested for one crime, which

1:37:17doesn't show up for court and gets arrested over and over

1:37:20and over again.

1:37:21And their life gets disrupted over and over and over again.

1:37:24The idea behind the program is that it allows

1:37:27the public defender to do early outreach

1:37:30to somebody who's been arrested and to make

1:37:32sure they show up to court.

1:37:35The number one most important thing

1:37:37is to get the person who's been arrested

1:37:39for a misdemeanor crime.

1:37:42To their court appearance.

1:37:43So that they can get their case resolved

1:37:46and with the public defender is found

1:37:48is that many times if they can get

1:37:49their defendant to court the first time,

1:37:53they can get resolution.

1:37:55The first time the person goes to court

1:37:57and they don't have to have the case get

1:37:59drawn out over the months and years

1:38:01for these low level offenses.

1:38:04So they started the program with the original police department,

1:38:07the Antioch police department.

1:38:08And they saw that for those agencies,

1:38:12the court appearance rate went up

1:38:14and fails to appear went down.

1:38:18So they have been over time, adding additional agencies

1:38:21in the county Brentwood police department

1:38:24is now part of the program.

1:38:25Martinez police department's of the program

1:38:27want to is coming on board.

1:38:29And as of yesterday, we are on board with the program.

1:38:32So what it means for us is that when we arrest somebody

1:38:35we give them a resource card from the public defender

1:38:38it gives them the contact information.

1:38:39So they can call the public defender

1:38:41right away on their case.

1:38:42Well we go to File the case.

1:38:43We share that information with the public defender which

1:38:46gives them an opportunity to reach

1:38:47out to the defendant by phone and setup a text based program.

1:38:53So they can text the person they can set up rides

1:38:56to get the person into court.

1:38:57They can provide some resources and

1:38:59getting the person into court.

1:39:00This is funded by a grant from the Department of Justice

1:39:04a companion program to that.

1:39:06We're also working on.

1:39:07It's the holistic intervention partnership.

1:39:09So this program is intended to try

1:39:12to address the root causes of why the person committed

1:39:15the crime to begin with.

1:39:17So this is another resource card that we're giving out.

1:39:20And we're talking to our arrestees about.

1:39:22And the goal behind this program is to connect people

1:39:25with the resources they may be lacking that led them

1:39:29to turn to crime to begin with.

1:39:30So there are housing resources that can be connected with.

1:39:34Importantly there are drug treatment resources

1:39:37people can be connected with.

1:39:39There are resources to get people's

1:39:42licenses straightened out.

1:39:44So that people there, the crime involves somebody having

1:39:49a suspended license, they can get

1:39:50those things trained out to get other outstanding cases worked

1:39:54out.

1:39:55So that when they come before a judge for the first time

1:39:58in their case ideally, they can already talk about the life

1:40:02changes that they have engaged in

1:40:04to keep the crime from recurring again in the future.

1:40:08So these are trying to tackle two different problems

1:40:10through parallel programs.

1:40:12One we want to get people to go to their court

1:40:14date because we really don't want

1:40:16to be chasing around people for low level offenses

1:40:19and disrupting their daily existence by arresting them

1:40:22again for a low level crime.

1:40:26And on the other hand, we want to also target the reasons why

1:40:29people commit crime and to try to get

1:40:32those issues solved as well.

1:40:33They also, I think the classic intervention partnership.

1:40:36I believe they also have a program to connect

1:40:38people with work as well.

1:40:40So if the reason they committed the crime was out of need

1:40:45for life's necessities they have some resources

1:40:47for that as well.

1:40:48So these are two different programs

1:40:50we're working with the cross public defender on.

1:40:53We're hoping to have similar results to Richmond

1:40:55and any archive with reduced failures

1:40:58to appear which means reduced warrants which means

1:41:01overall, fewer people getting arrested in the county

1:41:04for low level offenses.

1:41:06OK So the mental health response program is something

1:41:09that city staff have been working with Contra

1:41:11Costa County health services.

1:41:13So the mental health response program

1:41:17is intended to develop a program for mental health resources

1:41:22from county health services to respond

1:41:24directly to calls for people that

1:41:26are in a mental health crisis.

1:41:29Currently Contra Costa County health services

1:41:33is undergoing a VSO program.

1:41:37So that stands for.

1:41:40Oh jeez.

1:41:40I think I just for that value system mapping.

1:41:44I think that's it.

1:41:46So what they're doing right now as I speak

1:41:49is they are writing along with agencies in the county.

1:41:52They are examining the path to mental health services

1:41:56that people go through when they do or do not call 9-1-1.

1:42:03So if somebody picks up the phone and calls 9-1-1

1:42:05they're examining what happens from that moment

1:42:09through to when they are connected with health services.

1:42:12And I believe part of the program also they're also going

1:42:16to try to look at is what are the outcomes

1:42:19for people who enter health services through a 911 call.

1:42:24What are their later mental health outcomes.

1:42:27So there is a plan to have a public meeting at 10:00

1:42:31in the morning on Contra Costa TV

1:42:34to talk about the outcomes of this first part

1:42:37of their examination and they're some of the potential options

1:42:43for a mental health response program going forward.

1:42:46And they may not be not talk about what a timeline might

1:42:48look like to have county health as a first responder

1:42:52to mental health costs.

1:42:54I can tell you from talking with the health department director

1:42:57that a program like this could be up to a year out

1:43:01or maybe more before we have county

1:43:04resources directly responding to mental health calls.

1:43:08What are the challenges we face in Contra Costa is that we are

1:43:12just starting to look at this now as a program,

1:43:16and we don't have individual cities with health departments

1:43:20in Contra Costa County.

1:43:21Now in Oakland they are working with white bird clinic

1:43:27the same group that does the cruise program up in Eugene.

1:43:30They've been working with them as consultants

1:43:31to get a mental health first response program in Oakland.

1:43:36But they started that two years ago.

1:43:37So that's something that's already been in the works.

1:43:39And it's something that it sounds like.

1:43:41Oakland PD plans to be rolling out sometime in 2021 in San

1:43:45Francisco another city that is moving

1:43:49very quickly to a mental health response program.

1:43:51Eventually San Francisco and say Contra Costa County it service

1:43:54Cisco is a city, and a county.

1:43:56And so they already have a number of mental health

1:43:59therapists site and they have full control over everything

1:44:03that happens in their city.

1:44:04So they're a little more agile in moving forward.

1:44:06Something like this.

1:44:09The some of the reason behind the public meeting

1:44:12is not only to do a public report out.

1:44:14But county health services is also

Two partnerships were described, both aimed at reducing enforcement rather than increasing it.

The first works with the public defender on early representation: avoiding repeat arrests “for a low level crime,” with a companion program to target the reasons people commit crime.

It includes “a program to connect people with work… so if the reason they committed the crime was out of need for life's necessities, they have some resources for that.”

The measurable goal: results like Richmond's, with “reduced failures to appear — which means reduced warrants, which means overall fewer people getting arrested in the county for low level offenses.”

That chain is the point: a missed court date generates a warrant, and the warrant generates the next arrest.

The second is a mental health response program with county health services, “intended to develop a program for mental health resources from county health services to respond directly to calls for people that are in a mental health crisis.”

The county was then mapping its own systems.

The county's work becomes the A3 initiative, which El Cerrito supports by letter in 2021.

Significant

A missed court date generates a warrant, and the warrant the next arrest, which is why the public defender programs aim to cut failures to appear. The county's mental health response work becomes the A3 initiative.

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1:44:16going to be talking about opportunities for the public

1:44:20to provide feedback to share ideas and share concerns

1:44:23about the program.

1:44:24And they I believe there and be put out information

1:44:28on at that meeting as well.

1:44:29So for members of the public if this is something that you

1:44:32want to know more about, or you want

1:44:33to get directly involved with.

1:44:35I hope you have an opportunity to tune into that meeting.

1:44:38I believe it will be recorded.

1:44:39So if you miss it.

1:44:41I believe it will be recorded.

1:44:42But I hope that there's also going to be a big report out so

1:44:45that people can find ways to get involved

1:44:48if that's what they want to do.

1:44:49OK last month.

1:44:51I also talked about ways that we're restructuring

1:44:53the police department.

1:44:55Next month I'm going to be talking

1:44:57about some key personnel that are retiring which will be

1:45:01moving us closer to this restructuring

1:45:03of the police department.

1:45:05But basically what the restructure is going

1:45:07to look like is we're moving from three divisions

1:45:10down to two divisions and we're going to be eliminating traffic

1:45:15enforcement as a unit traffic or sport enforcement

1:45:18responsibilities are going to fall down to our patrol

1:45:21division and we're going to increase the resources that we

1:45:24have in our detective unit, which I'll

1:45:26talk about on the next line.

1:45:29Another thing that we're in the progress of doing that.

1:45:31We just rolled out is that we have

1:45:34a new wellness application and street

1:45:37police department application.

1:45:38So we have a new app on the Store the back end of that

1:45:41is a wellness application for our officers.

1:45:43So it's a way to connect our officers

1:45:46with resilience resources directly in their phone.

1:45:52So an officer can access the application

1:45:55and do self-evaluation questionnaires

1:46:00they can contact peer support people directly through there.

1:46:04They also have access to AP resources

1:46:09through the application.

1:46:10So it's another way to access the city's ERP resources.

1:46:15That's the play assistant program.

1:46:17So this is something that has been

1:46:20spearheaded by MPA by the mysql point authority

1:46:25our overarching insurer.

1:46:28And it's something that a lot of the departments

1:46:30are getting on in the county.

1:46:32And the idea is that if we have an officer who is experiencing

1:46:39a crisis they may not have the phone number to the city's VIP

1:46:45program on them.

1:46:48You know they may be in an acute crisis.

1:46:51The one thing we can be pretty sure that they would have

1:46:53on them is their cell phone.

1:46:56And so our hope is that if someone is feeling like they're

1:47:01overwhelmed and they need help that the help will be right

1:47:06there on their phone and available to them, whether it's

1:47:10somebody to talk to whether it's resources

1:47:13to read about whether it's self assessments to do.

1:47:17But the number one thing is there's someone there to talk

1:47:21to them and they can just easily access that to the application.

1:47:25So that's the idea behind the application.

1:47:30Officer wellness has been a big trend.

1:47:31It was a component of the task force on 21st century policing

1:47:37and it's certainly continuing to be a significant trend,

1:47:40especially through the summer that we've

1:47:43had with the pandemic.

1:47:45I mean, I think mental health is a trend

1:47:47for everybody in America right now

1:47:50all around the world right now.

1:47:51But definitely on police officers.

1:47:53So we're trying to look at ways that we can put tools

1:47:56and officers hands over also to have some new focus is

1:48:00an investigation someone who wanted that task we would talk

1:48:04about that a little bit more.

1:48:06So the current focus areas for investigations

1:48:09are really major crime Follow up.

1:48:10I got them all listed there.

1:48:11I really don't like reading our slides you can kind of take

1:48:14a look at these slides I guess there might

1:48:15be people at home listening.

1:48:16So these are major crime follow UPS.

1:48:19Crimes against people crimes against property

1:48:22missing persons.

1:48:23District attorney coordination homicides and liaison duties

1:48:27with groups like our crime prevention committee

1:48:29and our volunteer group.

1:48:32Well we're intending to do is to have an expanded

1:48:35focus for our investigators we're

1:48:37planning on eliminating our traffic unit

1:48:40and moving the two positions that

1:48:42were previously traffic officers into detective positions.

1:48:46So we intend for them to be responsible for a major traffic

1:48:49collision investigation.

1:48:51As I said detectives are going to be responsible for use

1:48:53of force investigations which means that we have a use

1:48:56of force at 10:00 at night.

1:48:58We're going to be calling detectives to the scene

1:49:00to investigate the incident.

1:49:03We want to have increased support for victim advocacy

1:49:08and making sure that our victims are getting the follow up

1:49:11that they need and deserve after they're a victim of a crime.

1:49:16We want to have increased focus on COVID cases and more

1:49:19resources to put into COVID cases,

1:49:22particularly our homicides.

1:49:24We currently work on them, but the areas on the left

1:49:29already take a lot of time and max

1:49:31out the unit having additional detectives responsible

1:49:35for cold case investigation will be a great boon for the unit.

1:49:39And we want to have more people and expanded focus

1:49:41on responding to crime trends to have additional analysis

1:49:47and have additional responders available to address

1:49:50crime trends as they happen things

1:49:52like catalytic converters.

1:49:53That was all encompassing task for our person

1:49:56who is in charge of crimes against property for at least a

1:50:01full month.

1:50:01That was basically that person's area of focus.

1:50:05This will give us some additional staff.

1:50:07So that we can help people focus on those big crimes.

1:50:09While the other crimes against property

1:50:11don't languish waiting for somebody to address them.

1:50:16One of the things that I want to get

1:50:17out of our use of force investigators

1:50:19as I said about earlier.

1:50:20And so I want to learn more about the why the use of force

1:50:24occurred.

1:50:25So that it can inform our training and our response

1:50:28to calls.

1:50:29So our use if we're intending for our use of force

1:50:32investigations to really delve deeper into the

1:50:36build up to an incident to really get

1:50:39to why not just from the officer's side,

1:50:42but also from the person who first was used against.

1:50:45We want to know what led up what part of their behavior led

1:50:48up to the use of force as well.

1:50:50Some other things are going to be happening on of use of force

1:50:55and recall reporting in general that I

1:50:57don't have a slide forward.

1:50:58But I'll talk a bit about.

1:51:00There is a law that was enacted was passed

1:51:04by the state legislators called revise the race

1:51:08and identity profiling act.

1:51:10So what Riba requires is that police

1:51:13departments maintain a record a whole host

1:51:18of data points on every stop.

1:51:21They make whether or not it results in

1:51:23and take it whether or not it results in arrest if an officer

1:51:27detains a person and under rip they're

1:51:30going to be required to report out

1:51:32to the Department of Justice on a wide array

1:51:35of different topics.

1:51:37Now the state ruled this out in a very smart way.

1:51:40They said, we're going to take the nine largest agencies

1:51:43and they are going to be responsible for being

1:51:45the Guinea pigs in this process.

1:51:47They're going to be the first ones to collect

1:51:49data and report it out.

1:51:52We are going to be working in this next year on fine tuning

1:51:55everything we need to do to be able to meet

1:51:58our mandate of beginning to report out in January of 2022.

1:52:02So following 2022 there is going to be a lot more data points

1:52:09available to look at the demographics of the stops

1:52:14that we make the demographics of the arrests that we make.

1:52:18What goes into searches.

1:52:21There's a lot of data points going

1:52:22to be out there for our agency.

1:52:24There already is a lot of data points out there.

1:52:26And there you can look at them as a member

1:52:27of the public at open justice through the Department

1:52:31of Justice.

1:52:32The agencies that are already up on.

1:52:34There are agencies like Los Angeles Police Department Los

1:52:36Angeles Sheriff's Department the California Highway Patrol San

1:52:40Jose police San Diego Police the largest agencies in the state

1:52:43are already up there.

1:52:44So if you want to see the kind of data

1:52:46that's going to be available that be a good place to take

1:52:49a look to get a preview.

1:52:50We are part of the number of agencies are about 300

1:52:54of us that start reporting in 2022.

1:52:58So it is the smallest agencies in the state, which I believe

1:53:01is agencies with 200 officers or less

1:53:05are all going to be reporting beginning in 2022.

1:53:07So that's something that we're getting

1:53:09ready for on the internet technology and training

1:53:12side with our officers.

1:53:15OK, let's talk about some things we've been seeing

1:53:18in 2022 which are potentially going

1:53:20to carry over into next year.

1:53:23So some of the things that we've seen this year

1:53:25is this concept of group coordinated crime

1:53:30if you've been following the news the last two days,

1:53:34you'll see this poor business in San Francisco.

1:53:36I think it's called LSP.

1:53:38Is this high end accessories store.

1:53:42I think they got hit two days in a row, the first day a person

1:53:45came in and sidetrack the security guard

1:53:48while a whole crew of guys went and installed

1:53:49$54,000 with the purchase of purses today.

1:53:54I think the news was from today, somebody rammed an SUV

1:53:57through the front of the store and a group of people

1:53:59jumped out the SUV loaded the SUV with high end merchandise

1:54:03backed it out and escaped from the scene with.

1:54:06But you really expensive stuff.

1:54:08So what we've been seeing in West Contra Costa County

1:54:11is this group coordinated crime working its way out

1:54:16in vehicle caravans.

1:54:17So following today in June.

1:54:22We had these caravans the cars that were targeting doing

1:54:25targeted looting in shopping districts in Contra Costa

1:54:29County Alameda County up in Squanto county and that caravan

1:54:36theme has been carrying on this last month,

1:54:41right around the election.

1:54:41We had caravans began popping up again,

1:54:44most notably in San Leandro and Oakland

1:54:47the night of the election.

1:54:49They were tracking a caravan that had up to 100

1:54:52vehicles and at some points.

1:54:54And the method of the crime is that the caravan pulls

1:54:58up to their target destination.

1:55:00Members of the caravan block off the street with their cars

1:55:03that help inhibit police responses.

1:55:07The people of the caravan get out.

1:55:09They mob the business, whatever the business might be,

1:55:11whether it's a shoe store or a drug

1:55:13store in San Leandro and Oakland they were targeting

1:55:16marijuana dispensaries.

1:55:18They overwhelm whatever security might

1:55:19be in the business and still merchandise

1:55:22their back in the cars and they're on their way.

1:55:24And it's challenging for the police

1:55:26to deal with because you have to connect the cars

1:55:29in the caravan with you.

1:55:30They're actively participating in crime in order to rito.

1:55:35We've seen this group coordinated crime work its way

1:55:38out in flash mob style thefts where

1:55:41four people will come charging in to see

1:55:45a drug store as an example.

1:55:47So it's a pretty common target they'll hit the cosmetic aisle

1:55:51they'll smash the cases in the cosmetic now they'll round up

1:55:55$3,000 worth of cosmetics and then the four of them

1:55:58will go running out the door into waiting cars

1:56:01and be gone in a matter of moments.

1:56:02It's too many people for the security guard to handle.

1:56:06And it's hard to stop when you're in the middle of it.

1:56:08It's also hard to plan for if you

1:56:10only have one security guard.

1:56:12So these are the types of crimes we've been seeing

1:56:14and what we've seen is sideshows which have been

1:56:17a thing in the Bay Area for a while

1:56:18now I've kind of created this offshoots of them

1:56:23that results in these caravans.

1:56:25We have also seen during the pandemic while we're on site

1:56:29shows a dramatic uptick in sideshow activity.

1:56:32So for those who are familiar with them

1:56:35type shows typically happen in the evening hours.

1:56:38It's when car enthusiasts will get out

1:56:41they'll block off freeways that's been down.

1:56:44It's in the freeways sometimes people

1:56:47will get run over by cars spilling donuts

1:56:48on the freeways.

1:56:50We've had a lot of incidents where guns are fired

1:56:52off site shows sometimes guns fired at each other

1:56:55and sideshows.

1:56:57So they are certainly outlaw motoring

1:57:00behaviors that have other ancillary crimes

1:57:02that happen around them.

1:57:04So this, especially during the pandemic.

1:57:07What we've seen is reduced traffic out there.

1:57:10So that there has been an uptick in sideshow activity

1:57:13because there's just less cars out there.

1:57:15It's easier to find a band in stretches

1:57:17of highway for abandoned commercial districts

1:57:20to spin down Anderson.

1:57:22I know I live in Eldorado and there's certainly

1:57:24been nights where you can hear when you hear

1:57:26car engines racing around those are multiple cars racing around

1:57:32on Friday and Saturday nights.

1:57:33I mean, there's usually side show activity going on.

1:57:35And we're working this last weekend.

1:57:38We had a sideshow group come into the Bay Area of 200 cars.

1:57:46Happily we've been doing a lot of coordination

1:57:48with our neighboring agencies.

1:57:49So the agencies in San Francisco Sammy tail

1:57:53Alameda Contra Costa and Solano are all

1:57:54working very closely together.

1:57:56And we had a pretty robust police presence

1:57:59out over the weekend and really deterred the sideshow

1:58:01from gaining a lot of steam.

1:58:03So we're trying to keep up that presence because they do

1:58:06tend to break off into the caravan cybercrime crime

1:58:08as well as I talked about earlier catalytic converter

1:58:11that continues to be a significant trend in Ontario.

1:58:15Once again, if you own a Prius strongly

1:58:18consider adding some security devices

1:58:21to your taillight converter.

1:58:24There's products out there that involved cable locks.

1:58:28There's other solutions.

1:58:29The mechanics can do involving welding Rebar cages

1:58:32onto your catalytic converter some of them

1:58:35are more economical than others.

1:58:38But I encourage you to take a look at some things that

1:58:40are out there if you own a Prius and a continuing trend

1:58:47is also homeless victimization.

1:58:50One shooting.

1:58:51We've had someone shot this year was a homeless person

1:58:54late in the evening.

1:58:57The homeless victimization often time surfaces as people

1:59:04who are also homeless.

1:59:06Housing challenged as well as other suspects.

1:59:11It's a trend we're continuing to see

1:59:12with our neighboring agencies as well.

1:59:15Certainly something to keep our eye on.

1:59:17In Reno we work very closely with the core team

1:59:22the health services department.

Two structural changes were reported: one to the department's shape, one to what it must disclose.

The restructure: “moving from three divisions down to two” and “eliminating traffic enforcement as a unit.” Those duties “fall down to our patrol” division, and the two traffic officer positions move to detectives.

What the detectives would gain: capacity for cold cases, particularly homicides — currently worked but crowded out because existing duties “take a lot of time and max out the unit.”

Plus capacity to respond to crime trends, since a single trend can consume a detective: catalytic converter thefts were “all encompassing… for our person who is in charge of crimes against property for at least a full month.”

Also new: a wellness application connecting officers to “resilience resources directly in their phone,” with self-evaluation.

Then the disclosure change. Under the state Department of Justice program, large agencies already report stop data — “Los Angeles Police Department… the California Highway Patrol, San Jose police, San Diego police.”

El Cerrito is among “about 300” agencies — those with “200 officers or less” — that “start reporting in 2022.”

He also described coordinated looting by car caravans and flash mobs, a pandemic rise in sideshows, and continuing violence against homeless people, with the county's CORE outreach team working in the city.

Significant

Traffic enforcement is eliminated as a unit and folded into patrol, with resources moved to detectives for cold cases and use of force investigations. State stop-data reporting under the Racial and Identity Profiling Act begins for El Cerrito in January 2022.

15 “The outcome is not ideal” captions 2396–2806

1:59:25So we work with a housing outreach teams.

1:59:28We rarely talk to them about where people are sleeping

1:59:31and setting up camp in town.

1:59:33And for those that have these see these housing analysts

1:59:40and house encampments around town

1:59:43you may notice from time to time that a white car pulls up

1:59:46with Contra Costa badge and on the side

1:59:48and co-workers are out, making sure that people know

1:59:52that they're getting medical assistance that they're

1:59:54see doctors regularly that are getting mental health

1:59:58care if any mental health care that they're getting food

2:00:01that they have adequate clothing that they're getting

2:00:04other resources that are available like housing

2:00:07vouchers getting them in motels getting

2:00:10them things like cell phones.

2:00:11So we work very closely with core to make sure that when

2:00:15we come across people that are experiencing homelessness

2:00:18that we are making sure that we're

2:00:20helping direct county resources to them when it's happening.

2:00:23And when I say they get medical help

2:00:26the court teams will arrange to have medical doctors come out

2:00:30and do evaluations with people while they're out on the street

2:00:34wherever they are.

2:00:35They'll bring doctors to them.

2:00:37They bring mental health therapies to them.

2:00:40So that they are getting direct care direct attention.

2:00:44So a couple of things that I saw on

2:00:48comments that were posted to supplemental materials.

2:00:51One someone said, there's a bunch of sirens and racing

2:00:54noises on Sunday night.

2:00:56So on Sunday night our patrol officers

2:00:58became involved in a pursuit with stolen vehicle.

2:01:01It was quite a lengthy pursuit was about 4:00 in the morning.

2:01:05We tend to cancel pursuits before they get too lengthy.

2:01:08We usually cancel them in the first minute or two.

2:01:11But at 4:00 in the morning, there was

2:01:13very little traffic out there.

2:01:15We were interested in recovering the stolen car.

2:01:18Ultimately we ended up recovering the car in Berkeley.

2:01:21Unfortunately, the suspect is still outstanding.

2:01:23But we're developing some leads to try

2:01:24to take him into custody.

2:01:25So if you're drawing vehicles.

2:01:28I know some of my neighbors did it is because we were chasing

2:01:31stolen car on Sunday night.

2:01:33So that is what you heard somebody said that also wrote

2:01:37that boy the police department sure

2:01:39goes to a lot of false alarm calls.

2:01:42What's that about.

2:01:43Can we charge people for false alarms.

2:01:45Yes, we can, in fact charge fewer false alarms

2:01:47than we do do that.

2:01:48So we have an alarm registry program and also

2:01:51Vito where if you have an alarm system that connects

2:01:54to essentially monitored service you

2:01:55are required to register with the city each year

2:01:59your first alarm activation.

2:02:01It's on us.

2:02:03So you get one false alarm a year.

2:02:06Beyond that.

2:02:06You do get charged for additional false alarms.

2:02:09So we do have a program that tries to respond to those.

2:02:13The main benefit of the program is that it does cut

2:02:16down on repeat false alarms.

2:02:18We have some locations in town that

2:02:21continuously have false alarms.

2:02:23School district is one of them.

2:02:25But we have a lot of the residents it helps alert them

2:02:28to the fact that their alarm is malfunctioning

2:02:32and it gets them to correct it.

2:02:34Now if we go to a house and the alarm is sound in the house.

2:02:37It's been broken into.

2:02:38People do not get charged for that.

2:02:39That is a crime that has happened.

2:02:42And the reason why we don't want to discourage people

2:02:45from having alarms is because it is

2:02:47a valuable burglary deterrent.

2:02:49And it also mean it helps deter burglaries.

2:02:53We believe it helps get burglars out of your fast house

2:02:55quicker if they do break into your house

2:02:57and hear the alarm sounding and it helps get police officers up

2:03:00there sooner.

2:03:02So that ideally, we can apprehend the suspect

2:03:04as he's playing in your house or fleeing the scene in a vehicle.

2:03:08So if you have a alarm an alarm system,

2:03:11please get it registered and ID, please also

2:03:15consider getting alarm system that is a very effective.

2:03:18OK So I've come to the end of the presentation in my head.

2:03:22I thought I'd be 15 or 20 minutes.

2:03:24So maybe I went a little bit longer than that.

2:03:27My email is on this slide.

2:03:29So if you're a member of the public.

2:03:31Maybe you're not tuned in right now.

2:03:33But you have a question or you want to talk

2:03:35more about something on here.

2:03:37Easiest way to get in touch with me is through email.

2:03:39You can also find my telephone number on our website as well.

2:03:43Give me a call and talk about it.

2:03:46I have a question about.

2:03:47That's my contact information and I'd

2:03:49like to open it up for questions from counsel if you have any.

2:03:55I stopped sharing my will here, I can.

2:03:59You want me to keep the screen up there

2:04:00would you like me to draw.

2:04:02Oh I think you're going to drop it unless you need to respond

2:04:05to a question with some data.

2:04:07So I think it'll be useful for her for us to see bigger faces.

2:04:14Chief thank you very much for that presentation.

2:04:17I appreciate it.

2:04:18And I will go too.

2:04:20I see Gabe, you're on muted.

2:04:21So it looks like you have questions.

2:04:23So we'll go to Gabe first.

2:04:25OK, thank you.

2:04:26There chief.

2:04:28A thorough thorough presentation.

2:04:31Thank you for that.

2:04:34You know I was part of the group that supported prop 47

2:04:39and a friend of mine helped write that for the DA

2:04:44in San Francisco.

2:04:46I attended the party in celebration

2:04:48when that was signed.

2:04:49Looking at what has transpired out there with so many car

2:04:55thefts so many break ins.

2:04:59Yeah there is.

2:05:00Yeah, I can't tell you how many folks have had their cars

2:05:05broken into not necessarily here or in El Serino

2:05:09but when they go to the CSI show or this is pre COVID.

2:05:15So looking at that and looking at our legislators

2:05:19in Sacramento that want to update and change

2:05:22prop 47 to include crimes that basically, it's a slap on the

2:05:29get on the wrist really or just getting a ticket.

2:05:34You're making your joined as many tickets.

2:05:38As you were in the past.

2:05:42But you know we have the grocery stores having

2:05:47their own private police now instead

2:05:50of having a CPD dropped by their every hour on the hour.

2:05:58So there is I know several of our partners in Sacramento

2:06:04want to put legislation to change prop 47

2:06:09to make sure that these crimes that happen over and over

2:06:12and over again.

2:06:14We see the same people over and over and over again.

2:06:18And get out there, they just get a ticket.

2:06:22Let's what's your opinion on that.

2:06:25Is very frustrating for you to have our police

2:06:28officers deal with the same people

2:06:30over and over and over again.

2:06:33Well I think that one of the impacts of the legislation

2:06:37is that there are fewer consequences for people

2:06:42who are arrested for shoplifting or for being

2:06:45habitual shoplifters.

2:06:48And it really has shifted the expense

2:06:51of dealing with shoplifters onto the stores themselves.

2:06:54So when I've talked to after we changed

2:06:57up how we responded to calls.

2:06:59I talked with local grocery store

2:07:00and they said that although their boss

2:07:04has started to go down.

2:07:06It had to expend more money on security at the store

2:07:09to try to deter the thieves from coming in.

2:07:11So what they are trying to do more actively

2:07:15is know who they are bad actors that are coming into pitch

2:07:19really stealing and try to keep them from entering the store

2:07:22to begin with as opposed to kind of dealing

2:07:25with them on the table and after they've committed the crime

2:07:27and then trying to place them under citizen's arrest.

2:07:30So I know that there are a lot of businesses

2:07:32that are spending more money on things like security.

2:07:35And there certainly will be probably

2:07:37a cost impact on community members in California

2:07:42as a result. And I know that there's legislators that are

2:07:45trying to find the right balance between what kind of penalties

2:07:50and what kind of repercussions should there

2:07:52be for crimes that are just and that

2:07:56are acceptable for our society.

2:07:57And that is certainly not an easy task to tackle

2:08:02big societal issues like that.

2:08:04They have been a number of changes in the last years.

2:08:08I pointed out prop 47 because I'm from larceny in particular

2:08:11that seems to be at an inflection point

2:08:14where from that point on, we saw a very

2:08:17visible trend in petty theft.

2:08:22And then also dealing with a car break ins

2:08:27and you did mention catalytic converters.

2:08:31We are back in the day.

2:08:33And my neighborhood was ground zero for people stealing cars.

2:08:39And we are still getting my neighborhood on the North side.

2:08:43We get people calling me and calling the police

2:08:46and mentioning something on Nextdoor

2:08:50about their catalytic converter being

2:08:54up in the middle of the night.

2:08:57That sense that for many types of cars.

2:09:02That's over the limit that then that what could be considered

2:09:06more of a crime than just that.

2:09:10Does that correct over $1,000 yes

2:09:15though the valuing of a catalyst buy

2:09:18used catalytic catalytic converter is the challenge.

2:09:22So if you were to steal something off a car

2:09:25that was worth more than $1,000.

2:09:27Now would increase the severity of the crime,

2:09:30but is placing what is the value of a used catalytic converter

2:09:34was taken up.

2:09:35The replacement cost is $3,000, but I don't believe

2:09:40that this attorney has been filing

2:09:42those more serious charges on people

2:09:43that have been stealing them.

2:09:45So we do.

2:09:46We come across catalytic converter things.

2:09:48I mean a couple of department head meetings.

2:09:50I started off the meeting by saying, hey,

2:09:52we caught a catalytic converter.

2:09:54This weekend because it's great to do.

2:09:56Unfortunately there they are considered

2:09:59low level offenses even though they have

2:10:00major impacts on car owners.

2:10:02So that's something that's above my pay grade.

2:10:05We what we can do is we catch the person

2:10:09put forth the charges and said to the DA

2:10:11to make the filing decision.

2:10:13OK, thank you, Chief.

2:10:14I appreciate all your work Paul.

2:10:18Yeah chief.

2:10:20Thanks for the important work that our force does.

2:10:25I think the caliber of our elsewhere through the forest

2:10:27is excellent.

2:10:29And you provided a lot of information.

2:10:31And I had a lot of questions.

2:10:33But I think you touched on most of them.

2:10:36But I'm saying really good trends

2:10:38some good changes in the trends that you've talked about.

2:10:42So because of time.

2:10:43I want to just make a few comments on the things you said

2:10:47rather than ask your questions.

2:10:50I see good trends with your use of force and your ticketing.

2:10:54That's really good news for El Serino.

2:10:56I want to hopefully in 2020 to see that continue.

2:11:01Cameras it sounds like you're dealing with in a positive way.

2:11:05And dealing with the state legislation.

2:11:09You mentioned restructuring and obviously

2:11:11later tonight, we're going to be dealing with the budget.

2:11:13So I'm hoping that when you visualize how our police

2:11:18force will be restructured there are budgetary

2:11:22attributes to change.

2:11:23And then the police department can

2:11:25reduce its budget as well as other departments can in this.

2:11:29Nick of time.

2:11:30I'm very pleased about the mental health direction

2:11:34that you're talking about.

2:11:35I know every city is and we need to be right

2:11:38there in the center of that.

2:11:39So thank you for that information about the event

2:11:42that's happening.

2:11:43I think tomorrow.

2:11:46I was the one question I had was if you thought there

2:11:49needed to be more training.

2:11:52What if there is no training opportunities or directions.

2:11:56What do you think those should be.

2:11:59Well, let's say that we are always playing catch up.

2:12:04To a degree on things like crisis intervention training

2:12:07and de-escalation training because every time

2:12:09we hire a new officer.

2:12:11We have to make sure they get through the same training

2:12:13that the other officers have been in

2:12:15and we'll train up people.

2:12:17And then they'll move to another agency.

2:12:19And place that person will have to give them the same training.

2:12:22So we are in a constant cycle of making sure people are getting

2:12:25training in how to intervene in crises

2:12:28and also getting training and how to de-escalate

2:12:30situations to help reduce the likelihood

2:12:33they'll have to use force.

2:12:33So we also try to work de-escalation themes into all

2:12:38of our training opportunities.

2:12:40So whether we're doing use of force training,

2:12:42whether we're doing things like taser training or firearms

2:12:44training we try to work in the concepts of de-escalation

2:12:48to each of those.

2:12:49So that scenarios can be achieved

2:12:51without having to use force.

2:12:53There are other options resource scenarios

2:12:55or at least that our officers are using

2:12:58de-escalation techniques to resolve

2:13:00situations even if a verbal resolution isn't

2:13:04going to stop the scenario.

2:13:06So for us, it's continuing to hit on those big themes.

2:13:11Some of the things that we're gong to be working

2:13:12on in the new year and the rounds of training

2:13:14are going to be additional de-escalation training

2:13:17agency wide and doing principal policing training agency wide.

2:13:23This is something that we'd like to hit on every few years

2:13:26to make sure that people are thinking about the impacts

2:13:29of their actions.

2:13:30Principal policing also includes a big block on implicit bias.

2:13:34So it has officers questioning the reason why they might be

2:13:38jumping into the incident and questioning their own biases

2:13:40when they confront a situation.

2:13:43So those are two big training things we have planned

2:13:46in the first half of next year.

2:13:48We're using some outside vendors to come

2:13:50in and do some socially distanced and COVID responsible

2:13:53training.

2:13:55I want to get to a point that council member Keith

2:13:59though mentioned on prop 47.

2:14:01You know our DA in our county has set out some new rules

2:14:05for small amounts of drugs and some other is that

2:14:08in a similar direction the same kinds of issues

2:14:12that you'll have to deal with lots of enforcement

2:14:16and we'll talk about that a little bit.

2:14:20You mentioned that to me what.

2:14:21Sure so the district attorney recently

2:14:25made today a news release basically

2:14:29talking about the new filing guidelines

2:14:31for certain types of crimes.

2:14:33Now one set of crime, low level offenses.

2:14:36The district attorney has is really

2:14:38focusing on trying to use non punitive resolutions

2:14:43for those crimes.

2:14:45These are things like first are low level offenses

2:14:49for petty theft or for trespassing

2:14:51where instead of somebody having to face

2:14:53criminal penalty on there.

2:14:55She's going to try to refer them to alternate resolution

2:15:02where they would have to go to through a program instead

2:15:05of going through a prosecution process.

2:15:07And the actual phrase for it is totally lost

2:15:10from my mind on the drug front.

2:15:12That new filing guidelines are that you have to be arrested

2:15:17in the county three times before the district attorney's office

2:15:22will file charges on somebody for possession of essentially,

2:15:27any type of drug in Contra Costa County.

2:15:29So I think the challenge that we're

2:15:31working through conceptually at the police department

2:15:35is that if we make an arrest.

2:15:41We don't want to make an arrest just for the sake

2:15:43of making an arrest.

2:15:45I don't know that that's particularly

2:15:46valuable to someone.

2:15:48There are not any kind of a mandatory rehabilitation

2:15:53programs or drug treatment programs.

2:15:55This attorney can impose on people.

2:15:57So we're trying to figure out what the right balance is when

2:16:00we engage in Drug Enforcement activities

2:16:04knowing that the district attorney

2:16:05will likely not file charges.

2:16:09So those are conversations we're currently having

2:16:11in the police department.

2:16:13Obviously if crimes happen in people's homes and residences

2:16:17we're going to go to those.

2:16:19I can tell you that our police officers

2:16:22definitely way much more now.

2:16:27The risks associated with making arrests versus

2:16:31the severity of the crime.

2:16:34So we hear here is an example that we've

2:16:36had this happened recently.

2:16:40We have a guy who steals from grocery stores.

2:16:44He definitely steals and they see him

2:16:46steal steal bottles of alcohol.

2:16:48And when officers have gone to confront him.

2:16:51He's displayed a willingness to fight

2:16:52and throw bottles and use bottles as weapons

2:16:55with the officers.

2:16:56So protesters have been faced with this person.

2:16:58They've got some decision making.

2:17:00OK this is a $30 bottle of alcohol.

2:17:04This person's stolen.

2:17:06We can go tackle the person to the ground

2:17:09fight with them over the bottle end

2:17:12up with a broken bottle in play.

2:17:14No doubt force is going to be used in this situation.

2:17:16And we can take him into custody and the outcome of that

2:17:19is going to be released with a ticket or probably

2:17:21a quick release from county jail due to cocaine

2:17:25or we can document the crime for it because we know the person

2:17:30we brought it to the district attorney

2:17:32and let the attorney make the decision

2:17:34on whether or not they're willing to move

2:17:36forward with charges.

2:17:38So this have been some of the dilemmas our officers thing.

2:17:40And I can tell you that when faced with some low level

2:17:43offenses our officers have chosen not to make the arrest

2:17:46because they don't perceive that the outcome is going to be

2:17:51worth the enforcement action if the outcome is going to result

2:17:54in the use of force that they don't

2:17:56want to be involved in that.

2:17:57OK All right.

2:17:59So is that good overall.

2:18:01I don't know.

2:18:02I think we're going to see is that he

2:18:04used to be a pilot program.

2:18:06Right now, it's being implemented in the county.

2:18:09Look at these are just policy decisions

2:18:11by the district attorney.

2:18:12So we are navigating that.

2:18:15And we're navigating that through the narrative

2:18:19about police use of force and having lots of conversations

2:18:23about it and our officers are making what would

2:18:26in the past to be really unpopular

2:18:30decisions in the field.

2:18:31And so when officers are making decisions where they're taking

2:18:35into account the safety of the public

2:18:37and the safety of other officers and the severity of the crime.

2:18:40We're trying to make sure that they

2:18:42feel supported when they make courageous decisions like that.

2:18:46It doesn't mean that we're not arresting people for low level

2:18:48offenses or that you could just get

2:18:50away with everything at all.

2:18:51But we are taking into account the COVID is a reality

2:18:55bank for low level offenses.

2:18:57The jail will not accept people and that there is.

2:19:03We've seen reduced prosecutions for low level offenses as well.

2:19:07OK And I just had one more quick thing on your presentation,

Quinto raised Proposition 47.

His own history with it: “I was part of the group that supported Prop 47, and a friend of mine helped write that for the DA in San Francisco. I attended the party in celebration when that was signed.”

His concern now: “so many car thefts so many break ins,” and legislators wanting to amend it because repeat offenders get only a ticket. The chief said the law had shifted the cost of shoplifting to stores, which now spend more on security.

Later, answering Fadelli on the district attorney's new filing guidelines, the chief described a man who steals alcohol from grocery stores and has “displayed a willingness to fight and throw bottles and use bottles as weapons with the officers.”

The calculation officers face: “this is a $30 bottle of alcohol… we can go tackle the person to the ground, fight with them over the bottle, end up with a broken bottle in play. No doubt force is going to be used.”

And the likely result: “released with a ticket, or probably a quick release from county jail.”

The alternative: “document the crime… because we know the person” and refer it to the district attorney.

His conclusion: “when faced with some low level offenses our officers have chosen not to make the arrest because they don't perceive that the outcome is going to be worth the enforcement action.” Under the district attorney's new guidelines, drug possession would be charged only after a third arrest. Training planned for 2021 included de-escalation and principled policing with implicit bias.

Significant

The chief says officers sometimes decline arrests for low-level offenses where the force required outweighs a likely ticket or quick release, as the district attorney moves to non-punitive resolutions. Quinto, who supported Proposition 47, raises its consequences.

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2:19:13and I don't mean to be picky, but a kind of there's

2:19:17an element of respect, I just wanted to ask you about.

2:19:20You know when you do the graphs and you

2:19:23have our ethnic makeup of our city black, Hispanic and white

2:19:28you have other.

2:19:29I mean our city is one third Asian API why don't we

2:19:32say what it is.

2:19:34Why can't we say what that other is.

2:19:37It seems a bit disrespectful to me.

2:19:39I'm glad you brought that up.

2:19:40And I meant to say something when

2:19:41those graphs were up there.

2:19:43I wanted to keep it a little less focus.

2:19:48So we could kind of see big numbers.

2:19:50And that way we could see kind of the big blocks

2:19:53of population.

2:19:54Now We do have many other groups that would have spread

2:19:57those graphs out significantly.

2:20:00And I wanted to make sure that we were seeing that where

2:20:04the big trends were in and for us,

2:20:06the big trends we see in arrests where there is despair

2:20:10at numbers is really in the communities

2:20:14of our black community members and our Hispanic media members.

2:20:18And so I wanted to have graphs that really honed

2:20:22in on the areas where we see disparities show where there

2:20:26are other groups that are significantly underrepresented

2:20:29in our enforcement activities compared to their population

2:20:32in the community.

2:20:33But I really wanted to show the negative impacts

2:20:37in those graphs and I wanted it to be

2:20:40really obvious to the viewer.

2:20:43So it was a design choice that I was hoping

2:20:46would show that it absolutely does not totally represent

2:20:50the wide diversity of our community on the grounds

2:20:53that, which we're going to have an asterisk next to the other.

2:20:57And put it on the bottom or something.

2:20:59It just seems that we're not saying who really lives

2:21:02here by or by other animals.

2:21:04That's just my comment.

2:21:07Rochelle do you have any questions or comments.

2:21:13Yes, I am very happy with a lot of things

2:21:20that I saw in your presentation especially

2:21:22about what we were just talking about trying

2:21:25to decrease racial disparities.

2:21:28And I know that that was in the works

2:21:31prior to all of this civil unrest that has happened

2:21:35in the last year and the liberal movement of Black Lives Matter.

2:21:42And so I do want to give you a lot

2:21:46of credit for working on that.

2:21:49But you really before.

2:21:50I mean, it's always been an issue.

2:21:52But I know you're working on it before it really

2:21:54came to that kind of boiling point

2:21:56that it had over the last summer.

2:21:57So I just wanted to acknowledge that.

2:22:01And thank you.

2:22:02And also I on my way out here.

2:22:09I just wanted to say that I think I hope you know that I

2:22:13think you're a great chief.

2:22:16But what I'm concerned about is that I

2:22:19want to make sure we have policies

2:22:21in the city that will continue to work towards all people.

2:22:29If for some reason you were to say move up or move on

2:22:33to another place I want to find a so-called bullet proof far

2:22:39are our resilience and our commitment to working on issues

2:22:49for various communities such as our black community,

2:22:51our Hispanic community.

2:22:54So what I feel is missing is just public engagement.

2:22:59I know we've had tons of requests for a better

2:23:03public forum like this is the first chance

2:23:05we didn't really have a more in-depth discussion.

2:23:09And it really hasn't been a discussion.

2:23:10But more presentation.

2:23:12And so I feel like what's missing

2:23:14from all of that is just more direct engagement

2:23:19from the public.

2:23:21Sometimes I feel like serving as the only

2:23:26African-American council member and soon there

2:23:30will be no representation.

2:23:31And that matter on the council.

2:23:34I'd really like to continue to hear

2:23:36from our African-American community

2:23:40and give more feedback because honestly, at times,

2:23:45it has been unfair for me to be a representative because I'm

2:23:50in my house with my kids.

2:23:51I go to work, I come home.

2:23:55I don't get pulled over.

2:23:56Fortunately I try to follow all the rules,

2:23:59but I just don't really know you know what the experiences

2:24:03of some of our residents when they are getting

2:24:06arrested what is that experience like for them.

2:24:10And you know I don't think any of the council

2:24:12members are getting arrested.

2:24:13I think we probably have all similar experiences maybe

2:24:17we've had experiences being the victim of a crime,

2:24:23but not necessarily maybe having family members that commit

2:24:27crimes or things like that.

2:24:30So I just feel like there's voices missing

2:24:33from the conversation here.

2:24:35And I don't feel like I'm the best representative to come

2:24:42up with those questions.

2:24:45So I really would like to see better community engagement

2:24:49from specifically our Black and Hispanic neighbors when it

2:24:56comes to the area of policing.

2:24:57So that if there are other stories that I'm sure there

2:25:01are less positive experiences.

2:25:05I really want to hear what that is, because I feel

2:25:08like I'm living in a bubble.

2:25:10Now really I don't really know how other or feeling

2:25:14about what's going on and elsewhere you know I feel safe,

2:25:18I feel like my family is taking care of.

2:25:20I feel like the police officers especially

2:25:23the ones that recognize me are particularly friendly.

2:25:26So I just want to make sure that we

2:25:29can delve into any potential complications

2:25:33and split numbers of our neighbors,

2:25:38our neighboring neighborhoods that

2:25:39may have other experiences.

2:25:45I guess that's not really a question except

2:25:47for when can we do that.

2:25:50So what are the things that I hope to do

2:25:53is to talk with the incoming mayor

2:25:58and coordinate something like that with the council

2:26:01and see what it is that the incoming council how they want

2:26:06to address that.

2:26:07And I know where you go to meetings out from that.

2:26:11So I'd like to give some model is certainly something

2:26:15that I would be happy to do.

2:26:16I want to make sure that we're asking the right questions

2:26:20and formatting in the forum in the right way

2:26:23to get the input that we need.

2:26:27Great, thank you.

2:26:28Sure Janet do you have any questions or comments sir.

2:26:36The only thing I can think to add

2:26:38is just that I really appreciate this session because I

2:26:41think it's gotten a lot more into detail

2:26:45about what's happening.

2:26:46And I'm really happy to see that.

2:26:48And I'm you know I'm really glad that you're

2:26:53doing what you're doing.

2:26:54So I'll just leave it at that.

2:26:56Thank you.

2:26:58Thank you.

2:26:59All right.

2:27:00I've got just a few questions.

2:27:03I mean, I think the answer to this is yes.

2:27:07You know the way you looked at the 2017 numbers

2:27:10you are still continuing to use statistics

2:27:14and new metrics in the decisions about policing.

2:27:18Where to where to patrol what types of crimes are happening.

2:27:22I'm assuming that's all being driven by data.

2:27:27Yes it is.

2:27:30And also people's observations I think

2:27:33that you don't make changes in the organization

2:27:36without people saying is this.

2:27:40Well, we should be seen and should we

2:27:42be seeing something different.

2:27:43It's this.

2:27:43Are these the outcomes we want to see.

2:27:45So you know sometimes these things come out because you'll

2:27:49read about how a specific incident was handled

2:27:52and it will make you ask geez is that the outcome we wanted

2:27:57to achieve.

2:27:58This is not a great outcome.

2:28:00Is this something that's regularly occurring.

2:28:03What can we do to change that.

2:28:04So sometimes it does start just at the story level.

2:28:08And then that helps form the direction for it.

2:28:12But other times it does come from just looking at data

2:28:14and saying, this is a trend you mentioned the core teams

2:28:20at the accounting core teams.

2:28:22Those are funded by the county and they're there.

2:28:26You had various programs of information cards

2:28:29that you were giving out to various things

2:28:33various arrestees.

2:28:35Can you just sort of touch on the interactions.

2:28:39The training and the interactions

2:28:40that our officers have with the How's the it done.

2:28:46How's population.

2:28:47It also is growing.

2:28:48There's no question about that.

2:28:51And invariably you do end up with interactions with them,

2:28:55and you're just curious what if you

2:28:57had any additional comments on what you can and can't do when.

2:29:01With regards to the housed and how you guys are handling them.

2:29:07Well I would say that to start with the training

2:29:10and how we train our officers is that when you come

2:29:13across a person who is experiencing homelessness

2:29:16you need to treat them just as you

2:29:18would treat any other person who is calling for police services.

2:29:22You don't treat them differently just

2:29:24based on the fact that they may not have a permanent residence.

2:29:28So that is the mentality we try to infuse into our officers

2:29:32as far as what our officers might be doing proactively

2:29:37with our homeless population.

2:29:39Those tend to revolve around identifying

2:29:44where new encampments may have cropped up.

2:29:48Getting that information over to the core team.

2:29:51So that they can start doing outreach

2:29:53and also directly alteration with people that are perhaps

2:29:56new to the community to see just give us some early questions

2:30:00and see if they're amenable to help from the court team

2:30:02as well, because that's good information to have a core team

2:30:05already knows that they've got somebody

2:30:07who's open to the idea of help.

2:30:10That's a good may move somebody up higher on a priority list,

2:30:14but especially during COVID there

2:30:17is guidance from the county health department

2:30:20that they don't want to see homeless encampments disrupted

2:30:25because they don't want to cause interchanging of people

2:30:30or people moving from one in Camden to another encampment

2:30:33in it being a factor for the spread of COVID.

2:30:35We really have been trying to take that into account when

2:30:40we got homeless catchments.

2:30:41Now as a city.

2:30:43Most of the homeless encampments when they're dealt with

2:30:48is really focused on the kind of ancillary components

2:30:52that may come with some encampments.

2:30:54So if an encampment has created a hazardous situation

2:31:00either through accumulation of debris or fire hazards

2:31:03situations, then the city does have

2:31:06some tools at their disposal to abate an encampment.

2:31:10However, we don't make arrests of people

2:31:13just because they're homeless.

2:31:14The act of being homeless is not a crime.

2:31:16So our officers are not out arresting people

2:31:19for sleeping on the street.

2:31:20That's not against the law.

2:31:22We do want to make sure that public health issues are taken

2:31:25care of relating to people who are sleeping outdoors

2:31:29now on private property.

2:31:30The situation is a little different because

2:31:33on private property.

2:31:35The private property owner really has responsibility

2:31:39for how they want and can be dealt with other than

2:31:42for those hazardous situations.

2:31:44So and what that involves is that a private property owner

2:31:50could have somebody could play somebody under arrest

2:31:53for trespassing if somebody was occupying their property right

2:31:58now during COVID I can tell you that all we're going to do

2:32:01is give the person a ticket at the scene

2:32:03because they're not going anywhere.

2:32:06We've really changed a lot of how

2:32:09we do business and COVID in the county jail

2:32:11certainly is not going to accept an arrest for somebody who was

2:32:13trespassing because they're homeless

2:32:16but over time, the if someone wants us right a case

2:32:20they could potentially do things like apply for a stay

2:32:24away order for their property or a restraining

2:32:26order from their property.

2:32:27Have other ways to deal with people who refuse to vacate

2:32:31but the private property situation is certainly much

2:32:34more challenging and COVID and a lot of the responsibility

2:32:37really rests on private property owners.

2:32:40There's some private property owners

2:32:41that don't care at all, if someone

2:32:43is sleeping in the doorway of their business.

2:32:46This has other private property owners

2:32:48that care a lot if they come to work in the morning to someone

2:32:50sleeping at the business.

2:32:51So in those incidences just like when we respond

2:32:55to a petty theft call we try to empower the property owner

2:32:58to take ownership of the problem and be the person in charge

2:33:02into to empower them to contact the person

2:33:07and explain their point of view and ask for compliance that way

2:33:09before we get involved with anything

2:33:13else that might result from a homeless encampment that

2:33:16is unwelcome.

2:33:18The mayor, I think that the main thing to focus on

2:33:21is that it's not illegal to be homeless.

2:33:23It's not illegal have nowhere to sleep and sleep in a park

2:33:25or sleep on a sidewalk.

2:33:27It's not it.

2:33:28It's not illegal to sit on a sidewalk and occupy a bench

2:33:31and have your belongings in a shopping cart with you.

2:33:33Those things are not illegal necessarily,

2:33:36but possession of a shopping cart

2:33:37could be what he is doing anything about that.

2:33:40So anyway, that's the main point.

2:33:43And it certainly is a delicate act to navigate with COVID

2:33:48and we really have been stepping into using

2:33:51the quarantine for a lot of the assistance

2:33:54to our homeless population.

2:33:56So and people people shouldn't think they

2:33:59just come out occasionally.

2:34:01They're constantly active in West

2:34:03Contra Costa County checking in on people multiple times

2:34:06a week.

2:34:07So they really do put a lot of time on it.

2:34:09We have two people in apartment assigns

2:34:11a homeless liaison duties.

2:34:13One person the middle of the week one person on the weekend

2:34:15and they both are in contact with the core team to make sure

2:34:19that they're staying abreast of new people are coming in

2:34:21and need be contacted or if a situation is deteriorating

2:34:24and a person needs more resources.

2:34:26So that really as far as us being involved

2:34:29in homeless cameras it really is to coordinate

2:34:31outreach and that is our biggest opponent.

2:34:34Now if a person is homeless is experienced

2:34:36being a victim of a crime and we treat them

2:34:38like any other crime victim.

2:34:39They get the same resource as any other crime

2:34:41victim would get on.

2:34:42And we would probably also link them with the court scene.

2:34:44So that they can get additional help

2:34:46for their homeless situation.

2:34:49Well chief we're very lucky to have you your ability

2:34:54to look at these situations and apply your training at your end

2:34:59analysis.

2:35:01A good example fired by the fact that you were looking at 2017

2:35:04data and already starting to trend towards changes

2:35:08in how we enforce our policies, our own internal policing

2:35:14policies.

2:35:15I look forward to your restructuring

2:35:17there was a comment during public comment

2:35:20tonight about looking at the reasons

2:35:24for policing it does sound like you are taking

2:35:27that type of approach to the restructuring

2:35:31to understand what are the reasons we are policing

2:35:35and what are the outcomes that are desired.

2:35:37I mean, those are on your own words

2:35:40and to have a restructuring that having it look that is exactly

2:35:46that outcome focused as opposed to process focused

2:35:54is going to allow us to, again end up in with a restructuring

2:35:58that potentially is much more forward facing forward thinking

2:36:03and closer to what I think the community is seeking.

2:36:08So I do applaud that.

2:36:11And and I think it was council member FLE who mentioned

2:36:15that we would hope the restructuring

2:36:17might save us some money too.

2:36:18But that was that.

2:36:22That that I think it's much more important

2:36:24that we get the policing done correctly

2:36:27and have all aspects of our community,

2:36:30whether they're people who are housed or traveling

2:36:34through our community shopping and community, business owners

2:36:38residents students that they get the protections

2:36:42and safety that they're looking for.

2:36:45So that concludes this item.

2:36:53Thank you.

2:36:55As pointed out by Councilman reals

2:36:57in quite an in-depth start to I think

2:37:00a lengthy discussion that will be carried out

2:37:02throughout all of next year.

2:37:05That concludes.

2:37:06Item five B presentation of the ulcerative police department.

2:37:12And that brings us to item 6, which is public hearings.

2:37:15There are no public hearings tonight

2:37:16that concludes item 6, which brings us to policy matters.

2:37:20We have two policy matters.

2:37:22This evening all matters 7 8 fiscal 2020 2021 general fund

2:37:29budget update for October 2020 and item policy

2:37:34the latter 7 7b city council policy subcommittee

2:37:38report and recommendations.

2:37:40With that we will go back to 7 and that is

2:37:44the action is to receive and file the 20.

2:37:48We need one budget update on general fund

Quinto first asked why the charts grouped the city's large Asian and Pacific Islander population as “other”; the chief said he wanted the disparities to show clearly, and would add more detail.

The chief described what officers do about encampments, and the constraint is a health order.

The proactive work: “identifying where new encampments may have cropped up” and passing that to the CORE team “so that they can start doing outreach.”

Plus direct conversation with people new to the community to see whether they are open to help, because “that's good information to have” and may “move somebody up higher on a priority list.”

Then the pandemic constraint: “there is guidance from the county health department that they don't want to see homeless encampments disrupted because they don't want to cause interchanging of people,” which could spread COVID.

So clearing an encampment is discouraged on public health grounds during this period.

What the city addresses instead: “the kind of ancillary components that may come with some encampments.”

The city can abate an encampment that creates a hazard, but “the act of being homeless is not a crime”; on private property, owners carry most of the responsibility.

Pardue-Okimoto, leaving the Council, followed with credit and a worry.

Her credit first: the work “to decrease racial disparities… was in the works prior to all of this civil unrest that has happened in the last year and the… movement of Black Lives Matter.”

Her acknowledgement: “I do want to give you a lot of credit for working on that… before it really came to that kind of boiling point that it had over the last summer.”

Then the concern: “I think you're a great chief. But what I'm concerned about is that I want to make sure we have policies in the city that will continue to work” for all people.

Her reason: “if for some reason you were to… move up or move on to another place.”

She wanted a commitment that would hold regardless, and named what was missing: public engagement, especially with Black and Hispanic residents. As the only African-American councilmember, soon to leave, she said she could not represent experiences of arrest she had not had.

The item was received and filed.

Significant

County health guidance discouraged disrupting encampments during the pandemic, because moving people between camps could spread infection; the city acts only on hazards. Pardue-Okimoto asks for policies that outlast the chief and for direct engagement with Black and Hispanic residents.

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2:37:50revenues and expenses.

2:37:53And I see you have joined us.

2:37:54So I think you have a presentation.

2:37:59Can you hear me.

2:38:00Yes great.

2:38:03Good man.

2:38:04Council members macro sire finance director.

2:38:07I'm here to share with you the latest fiscal reports

2:38:09through the printing.

2:38:11So October 2020.

2:38:13And before I get into that, I just want to check with you

2:38:15as to how you would like me to proceed with this.

2:38:18I could take the long and winding road

2:38:20like I'm doing the past Orioles equity the high points

2:38:22and then take the questions and drill down as needed.

2:38:26I just want to make sure that I make the best use of your time

2:38:29while I'm here.

2:38:32I think that your ultimate presentation.

2:38:35We've certainly discussed the details in some cases.

2:38:38So I think looking at the big picture.

2:38:40I know I think there's going to be a fair amount

2:38:44of discussion on this.

2:38:46So I would prefer that we touched on the high points

2:38:50and then go to discussion and questions.

2:38:54So starting with the high points that I'm

2:38:56looking at for my first share, which is the income statement.

2:39:03And I hope you can see that you can get a few seconds,

2:39:06you go and you see that.

2:39:17Yes great.

2:39:20Since the turn of the year complete.

2:39:22Through the end of October, we have approximately 17.6 million

2:39:27in revenues, which represents about 19% of the budget,

2:39:33and we have approximately 11.7 million

2:39:37expense in expenses representing about 30%

2:39:40of the expenditure budget.

2:39:42As far as we can see from this slide

2:39:46a couple of key points on this.

2:39:48Property taxes have communist budget

2:39:51a 260,000 times for taxes are trending a little bit higher

2:39:57than we expected to have we expected to have about 600,000

2:40:00through October.

2:40:02But we notice that we have about $2,975,000

2:40:04that actually up to be 175,000 to the end of October.

2:40:08So that's on the transfer decks aside

2:40:11our business licenses have paper appeared to have tapered off

2:40:14at about 662,000 against a budget of 850

2:40:19and I doubt very much if we have to make 850 on that.

2:40:23And then, of course, we have the other sources

2:40:27of revenue licenses and permits, which

2:40:29are pretty much trending as expected fines and forfeitures.

2:40:33A little behind.

2:40:34And as the chief pointed out a few minutes ago.

2:40:36That's something that is being impacted by what's taking it

2:40:39happening on the court to try and use of money and property

2:40:43in a gun rental revenues charges for services other teen x items

2:40:47that we have on this list.

2:40:50And as I pointed out in the staff

2:40:51report charges for services are trending at around 566,000

2:40:57behind expectations at this point in time.

2:41:00And as I mentioned in the report.

2:41:02The significant part of that is from the recreation

2:41:05department revenue side.

2:41:07And I've indicated that the expectation for the fall

2:41:10of the age is about 600,000 behind the budget for the rec

2:41:14department rec department budget is approximately $4 million.

2:41:18And with the new estimates we expect to come in at about

2:41:20$3.4 million on that.

2:41:24And on the expenditure side, we are pretty much on track

2:41:27with personnel costs.

2:41:29Professional services and everything else below that.

2:41:32I would like to point out here that personnel costs includes

2:41:36a significant chunk of fire department

2:41:39or yes expenditures, which would be reimbursed to us sometime

2:41:43in March or April of next year.

2:41:46Typically all.

2:41:47Yes expenses are under 500,000 would be a concrete trend

2:41:50to get around a little under 800,000 for fire department

2:41:54or yes overtime costs.

2:41:56So that's the reason for every expense

2:41:59that's included within that personnel line item.

2:42:03But even with that, we have in the 33% for the budget

2:42:06to be at this point in time.

2:42:08So that's pretty much a summary of where

2:42:10we are of the income statement.

2:42:12On this slide here.

2:42:14And I'll be happy to take any questions that you might have.

2:42:16Before I get onto the next slide any questions on this slide

2:42:29to Gabe shaking his head.

2:42:31I have I won basically just what you just said

2:42:36the charges for other services.

2:42:41Our budget our adopted budget was 4.5 million.

2:42:45And if I heard you just correctly.

2:42:46I heard you say that instead of 4.5 million.

2:42:50We're expecting that to come in at 3.4 million.

2:42:54Is that what I heard the charges for services

2:42:59budget is 5.2 million.

2:43:01And as you can see from this slide,

2:43:02you Finch forming in his from actually the recreation

2:43:09department and meeting is expected

2:43:13to come in at 3.4 million.

2:43:14We just accept 1,000 less got it.

2:43:18So the 5.2 is the amended budget.

2:43:25And of that is rec is 4 million.

2:43:28And of that 4 million, you're only anticipating 3.4.

2:43:33So is correct.

2:43:34That is correct.

2:43:36All right.

2:43:39Any other questions on this slide.

2:43:44None go ahead.

2:43:47So moving on to the balance sheet,

2:43:49which is the next slide here.

2:43:51And again, this balance sheet has numbers for the audited.

2:43:55They are not just close that were recently concluded

2:43:59and these are frozen in time to the audit is complete.

2:44:01We expect that to happen towards the end of this month.

2:44:05And this for preparing their financial statements.

2:44:07They are asked about right now in the middle

2:44:10of the final audit for this fiscal year.

2:44:13In terms of the estimated balance sheet as of October '30

2:44:18first, we notice that we have a 6.3 million

2:44:22in total assets, which includes approximately a 3.2

2:44:27in cash and 925,000 in taxes receivable,

2:44:32which are received in the first part of this number.

2:44:34Obviously it's a total of about $4 million in cash there.

2:44:37And then here is the big short term.

2:44:40Note that drives up B total liabilities

2:44:42to a level of 11.1 to five and we've seen that before.

2:44:47And he knows that the fund balances a deficit

2:44:48of 4.8 million negative, which is a little better off than we

2:44:53were last month and that was to be expected

2:44:55because with revenues coming in and B

2:44:57the expenses within budget your fund balance can only improve

2:45:00from that point forward.

2:45:01So that's your balance sheet gives

2:45:03you a snapshot of assets and liabilities

2:45:06at the end of October.

2:45:08Now pause for any questions that you might have any questions.

2:45:19I have no questions.

2:45:19I mean, this one is what we would have expected

2:45:23from a cash flow perspective.

2:45:26Yes absolutely questions are more along to the next slide

2:45:40here.

2:45:42Which is the cash flow statement forecasted.

2:45:46Cash flow statement.

2:45:49And I just wish to draw your attention to the addition

2:45:55that I've put into our previous statements

2:45:57here that I've shown you before, we have the adopted budget

2:46:00as the extreme right column.

2:46:02And that was the budget that was adopted.

2:46:05You'll notice that it shows an expectation of 664,000

2:46:10as a surplus.

2:46:12If the budget is met.

2:46:14And as I point out in the staff report

2:46:16that 664 is in jeopardy if rec department revenues

2:46:22come in 600,000 or more under.

2:46:25So that is something to we kept in mind.

2:46:29The shaded section of this cash flow statement

2:46:31reflects everything that's transpired

2:46:34and then everything else that's unsheltered is left ahead.

2:46:38These numbers will be left as is and will only be changed

2:46:42in the actual is coming.

2:46:44You might recall that these were benchmarked

2:46:46in the budget before at the point

2:46:48that they started this cash flow thing back

2:46:50in May get up to it budgets.

2:46:52So that the demand assets and what

2:46:57it shows us is at the end of June,

2:46:59we expect to have approximate 9.2 million in cash.

2:47:03As I stated in the staff report.

2:47:05And that would be used to that would be available to pay

2:47:08down the trend in July.

2:47:10The 8.6 million tracking July and I'll take any questions

2:47:16you might have on that as well.

2:47:18Questions will go with shell and then Paul.

2:47:25My first question is about the sales tax.

2:47:30When looking at where we are at.

2:47:33And then what is projected.

2:47:36My question was with COVID on the rise

2:47:39and more things shutting down.

2:47:42I'm concerned about this sales tax number going down.

2:47:46And I was wondering, because it doesn't show on this graph what

2:47:50the sales tax revenues were or the time when we

2:47:55were in the biggest shutdown.

2:47:56So like March, April and May that's a great question.

2:48:04And I think I may have mentioned this in my report at some point

2:48:07that things are still fluid they are changing constantly.

2:48:10And we are currently in a second level of shutdown as well.

2:48:13That being said and looking back over the period, March, April,

2:48:17may and June up the last fiscal year,

2:48:19we noticed that sales taxes weren't as badly impaired

2:48:24as we thought they would be.

2:48:26So what that means is we expect that sales

2:48:28taxes to be in the ballpark of 600600500 1,000 a month.

2:48:32But we actually came out about 14, 15 to 550,000

2:48:35including measure a sales taxes on average.

2:48:39So March or April, may and June or March, April and May total

2:48:44sales taxes averaged about 560,000

2:48:47on an average per month of which 461 general fund and sales tax

2:48:52and the balance $100,000 was measuring sales tax

2:48:55and you might recall that back then when we first met these

2:48:57estimates we anticipate says taxes to be out of the ballpark

2:49:01of 300,000 a month.

2:49:03And so these are numbers that are being reported

2:49:06by the auditors as we speak.

2:49:08And finally, it numbers are trickling in

2:49:11because of the extended repayment schedule

2:49:13that the state has plummeted sales tax payers.

2:49:17And we expect to have more firm estimates of that

2:49:20once the auditors have signed off

2:49:22on this by the end of December.

2:49:24So I'm happy to note that the component that it's held us

2:49:29through all of this has been the county pool,

2:49:33which is all the online sales.

2:49:36If you get a share of at some point

2:49:38and those have continued to outperform in fact county

2:49:42pool revenues needs to be enough to take compared to last year's

2:49:46numbers and you get a shot of that

2:49:49because offset the retail dip that we've

2:49:52seen on our retail side.

2:49:54For example, you might recall that our biggest source

2:49:57of sales tax revenues the single biggest source of sales tax

2:50:00revenue is the Hyundai dealership and Honda leadership

2:50:04sales taxes dipped by about 49% of 50% year to year over year.

2:50:09So that puts to a large extent offset by revenues

2:50:15from the county pool, which is distributed

2:50:17in all jurisdictions getting sales taxes.

2:50:20So in answer to your question.

2:50:23Do I anticipate these numbers to be about they

2:50:25are by the end of this year.

2:50:26If things remain as they are at this point in time,

2:50:30I have also mentioned this before

2:50:31and others have mentioned this as well.

2:50:34A vaccine is not a silver bullet.

2:50:37It's going to take time for it to be deployed.

2:50:40And it's going to take time for it to be effective.

2:50:42And that could be multiple quarters into the future.

2:50:45So that being said, if things improved from this point

2:50:50or stabilized to the point that we can collect some of these,

2:50:54I would expect to see that sales tax number come in as expected

2:50:57at least 6.4 million.

2:51:00Again the caveat here is that things will improve even

2:51:04if gradually that things move up the county pool

2:51:10has been a significant source of support for our sales

2:51:12tax estimates.

2:51:14And I would expect those numbers to be supported

2:51:15by the continued to be supported by that even if things get

2:51:18worse because of the fact that people get online

2:51:20and they make purchases online and a significant source

2:51:24of revenue for cities in this climate.

2:51:31How much is that county pool is that coming in monthly.

2:51:35Yes it comes in monthly bill.

2:51:37Obviously it's taxes.

2:51:38It's all a part of the sales tax by sea.

2:51:41And that was a there was a lawsuit that was settled.

2:51:45It's called the real host case and following that sales taxes

2:51:50were distributed to jurisdictions based

2:51:52on their share of total sales.

2:51:54And we continue to get that benefit as well.

2:51:58Right that is good news.

2:52:01The next one I was looking at here that is concerned

2:52:06with the projections was the franchise

2:52:08tax just seeing where we're at.

2:52:11So far versus the monthly projections from here

2:52:15after I am mindful of that.

2:52:20And in fact, that is one of the things

2:52:21that I dug a little bit deeper into this time.

2:52:26One of the things I might mention

2:52:27in making these estimates and making

2:52:29these budgetary estimates we don't just look at things

2:52:32as things are currently.

2:52:34I've also looked at the last year,

2:52:35just to see about things go at this point in time

2:52:38to see if there's any likelihood that things

2:52:39could fall off the cliff.

2:52:42We may need to make the adjustments,

2:52:44but it's a bit too soon for that.

The finance director asked the Council how it wanted the October report delivered.

His choice offered: “I could take the long and winding road like I'm doing the past” months, or give “the high points and then take the questions and drill down as needed.”

His reason for asking: “I just want to make sure that I make the best use of your time.”

The Mayor chose the second: “looking at the big picture… I think there's going to be a fair amount of discussion on this.”

Through October: transfer tax was running ahead of expectations, business licenses short, and charges for services about $566,000 behind, mostly recreation, now expected at $3.4 million against a $4 million budget.

The report covers July through October, a third of the year.

The fund balance stood at a $4.8 million deficit, and the cash forecast showed about $9.2 million by June to repay the $8.6 million revenue anticipation note. Sales tax had held up better than feared because the county pool of online sales offset a roughly 50 percent drop at the Honda dealership.

Note

Four months into the fiscal year, recreation revenue is about $600,000 behind, while online sales through the county pool hold sales tax up.

18 Budgeted at the lowest level in four years captions 3441–3740

2:52:46We tend to get these county taxes at infrequent intervals.

2:52:49Sometimes it's two months of taxes.

2:52:51I'm sorry franchise taxes.

2:52:53I frequently demos to two or three months at a time.

2:52:57Sometimes it's a month ahead of time.

2:52:58And so on.

2:52:59So I'd like to get it.

2:53:00Let it run through the end of December

2:53:02before I will let it run in.

2:53:04If I have to, but I also want to mention to you that the budget

2:53:08itself is at the lowest level, I might add for the last four

2:53:12years for franchise taxes.

2:53:14So previously franchise tax estimates

2:53:18are somewhere in the ballpark of 1.35 to 1.4 million.

2:53:22That is the actual way in the region of

2:53:24and say you'll notice that the county the franchise tax budget

2:53:28for this is about 1.2, which is what they've been bringing

2:53:31in fairly comfortably over the last three to four

2:53:34to five years.

2:53:35So I'd like to let that drive for a little.

2:53:38Before I take a closer look at how that needs to be modified.

2:53:42Again these are things that might come back to us

2:53:44at the media.

2:53:46My immediate concern.

2:53:47Like I've said in my report is the direct impact of COVID

2:53:5119 charges for services and that seems

2:53:55to be something that seems to have been impacted sufficiently

2:53:59for us to alert you to the fact that that might need to be

2:54:03reconsidered at this point.

2:54:06OK And then lastly, looking at the business

2:54:13licenses it looks like that.

2:54:15Also fell short of our expectations.

2:54:17So what that says to me is to be on the lookout for once

2:54:23again, kind of tying back into this sales tax,

2:54:26maybe further decrease in our sales tax

2:54:29if we're not having as many business

2:54:32licenses renewed again.

2:54:37That's a fair point.

2:54:38The budget for the time 50,000 at the best of times

2:54:42we meet about 910,000 B dial that back

2:54:45to 850 because of course, we'd come in with about 762,000

2:54:51as of the end of October.

2:54:53I don't expect that to creep up much further beyond that.

2:54:57And they're looking potentially at a 60 or 70,000

2:54:59shortfall on that.

2:55:01But in relation to the point you mentioned lift sales

2:55:05even if retail has dropped off due to is due to COVID

2:55:09and business licenses reflect the drop in retail.

2:55:13Fortunately for us the pool has stepped up.

2:55:15So that has to a certain extent offset.

2:55:18Pedro OK.

2:55:20Thank you.

2:55:21That's all my questions.

2:55:22Sure well.

2:55:26And then Janet it looks like you have comments after that Janet.

2:55:30Yeah, Thanks mark.

2:55:34Thank you for the crafting of the bullet on the analysis.

2:55:39I think they were very helpful in highlighting what we need

2:55:43to be looking at with the big ticket items are directions

2:55:48that we need to be aware of.

2:55:51Unfortunately it's not very good news in the bullets.

2:55:55And I just wanted to see with COVID and the recession

2:56:02and cutting back on some of our services in the city.

2:56:08You mentioned that mid-year is when you'd

2:56:11like to make some change in midyear means

2:56:13what is that December mid-year when you're going

2:56:20to consider making changes.

2:56:22And then under financial considerations

2:56:26we talk about because of the bad news

2:56:29we're preparing some scenarios.

2:56:32So when do we start talking about the scenarios

2:56:34that we need to act on.

2:56:36I see the city manager shake your head.

2:56:38So just to jump in there for a minute.

2:56:41You're shaking your.

2:56:42Yes yes.

2:56:45Well I wasn't shaking my head at.

2:56:48But I'm happy to ask that question.

2:56:51So so there are several things that are actually,

2:56:55as we did state in the shock report

2:56:56that we are preparing scenarios.

2:56:59And as we have discussed with the city council

2:57:04that there's sort of two different things here.

2:57:07First of all, any further reductions that we would need

2:57:09to make to this budget our staff staff reductions, which

2:57:15equals service reductions.

2:57:17I do want to give kind of before I go any further,

2:57:21I want to give a hat tip right now to our staff team

2:57:24and especially our department directors.

2:57:27They have been incredibly diligent in watching

2:57:28their budgets constantly updating their data.

2:57:31I mean, I've worked here a long time.

2:57:33And even through the Great Recession.

2:57:34And I feel like right now this is probably the most frugal

2:57:37that we've ever had to be.

2:57:39And we are really laser focused on making sure that we're

2:57:41right sizing our budget.

2:57:43So yes, I want to give props to our department directors

2:57:46for being able to be really mindful

2:57:49of that as well as their staff, as well as our revenues.

2:57:52And yes I mean, right now we've talked

2:57:55a little bit about our recreation department.

2:57:56So I want to give a shout out to Chris Ben and his entire team

2:58:00that is doing everything they can

2:58:02within the restrictions that have

2:58:04been imposed on them to be able to try

2:58:06to provide those services.

2:58:09We are waiting for one of the things

2:58:11that we're waiting for is the month of December

2:58:13is a big milestone month for us.

2:58:15So we are confirming a lot of the revenues

2:58:17that we expect to come in including that big infusion

2:58:20of property taxes.

2:58:22There could be a sales tax increase

2:58:24as pointed out particularly coming into the holiday season.

2:58:28Again we're not counting on that,

2:58:30but that is certainly an aspect that could happen in December.

2:58:34But also the fiscal response plan confirming the impacts

2:58:39of the layoffs and the retirements

2:58:40that will be happening at the end of December.

2:58:42So again December is a big milestone

2:58:44month for us where a lot of this will take effect in January.

2:58:49We're really going to have a much better again.

2:58:52I know we keep talking about trying

2:58:53to come up with a much better picture, which

2:58:55is really difficult to do.

2:58:56And covered but certainly the impacts of the fiscal response

2:59:00plan taking full effect, as well as the revenues that we're

2:59:04waiting to confirm in January will definitely give us

2:59:08what that picture looks like.

2:59:10So as any reductions beats staff and services.

2:59:14I also want to make sure that the council remembers

2:59:17and the public knows that any staff

2:59:19impacts are subject to our civil service rules.

2:59:22Our personnel rules and regulations and our contracts

2:59:25with our bargaining units.

2:59:26So we cannot unilaterally impose reductions that would

2:59:30impact salary or benefits unless we

2:59:32meet with our marketing units.

2:59:35And this takes place at the bargaining table

2:59:36The council would be apprised in closed

2:59:38session of that happening.

2:59:40You have had concessions in the past.

2:59:42We have a price you have any updates with respect

2:59:45to labor negotiations.

2:59:47And just as a point of reference for the public because I know

2:59:49this has come up a few times.

2:59:51We the reason that this happens in closed session.

2:59:54And the reason that these negotiations happen

2:59:56confidentially is because we expect to negotiate

3:00:00at the table and not in public.

3:00:02We want to make sure each side has expectations

3:00:05for negotiating in good faith.

3:00:06So that is why the council is apprised

3:00:08of updates of these confidential negotiations in closed session.

3:00:13And if there's agreement when there is agreement

3:00:16on both sides, then we do report that to the public

3:00:19because we're not reporting, such things

3:00:21to the public at this time does not mean that there

3:00:23aren't discussions going on.

3:00:25There are.

3:00:26And so what I can say is we are indeed preparing

3:00:29for further reductions.

3:00:30Our preference would be to see how this quarter ends before we

3:00:34implement further cuts to staff because again, the layoffs do

3:00:38take that we've already implemented take

3:00:40effect at the end of December.

3:00:42And the services that those staff provide that

3:00:45would also go away.

3:00:46I think we would like to see how December shakes out.

3:00:50Again, this is with a huge caveat, which

3:00:54is if there's another lockdown that comes

3:00:56or if we have to take additional action because we are forced

3:01:00to stop services or programs that we're

3:01:02doing right now that we would have to take action super.

3:01:05And again, we also have those plans in place, including

3:01:09immediate furloughs or layoffs, which

3:01:11is what we had to do earlier this summer if you recall,

3:01:14we sent pretty much our entire part

3:01:16times when we did send our entire part

3:01:18time staff onto Furlough.

3:01:21So the situation remains uncertain.

3:01:23That is why we're continuing to monitor this,

3:01:25we're providing these monthly reports if things are as they

3:01:29are, however I think that it would be good for us

3:01:32to consider taking a look at what

3:01:35happens throughout the end of this order

3:01:38before we make further cuts.

3:01:40You know, I might get criticized for this,

3:01:44but I'm just going to say it anyway.

3:01:47Pulling back services and pulling back

3:01:50staff at the end of this year.

3:01:52Right before within the middle of all of this in the holiday

3:01:55season it would just be really Dutch

3:01:57it could potentially be detrimental to our residents

3:01:59and to our staff.

3:02:00So I'm just putting that out there.

3:02:02I'm just trying to be a human being.

3:02:04I think that it would be it would

3:02:07be it would be something for us to consider

3:02:10once the quarter is over.

3:02:12If we need to pull a trigger for further staff layoffs

3:02:15that I think that that could happen in January.

3:02:19So you're saying that you have thought of plan B and C

3:02:23and those things are being discussed.

3:02:26I know a lot of people have talked about furloughs

3:02:28but our furloughs do go through the end of the fiscal year

3:02:32for management and Rite Aid employees

3:02:36and you are in discussions with seiu

3:02:41or talk show Furlough action.

3:02:44Those are some things that Rochelle

3:02:45Pardue Okamoto had mentioned.

3:02:48So there's not much room for additional furloughs now.

3:02:51Right Well that is also due to negotiation.

3:02:59But my point is we are dealing you are dealing our city

3:03:03staff is dealing with these topics

3:03:05to be thinking of alternatives that will be coming up.

3:03:08Absolutely and by mid-year.

3:03:11That's that's a post December concept.

3:03:14The city is attracting about OK.

3:03:16Correct and I just and that is consistent with what we have

3:03:20been sharing with the city council

3:03:23that at the end of each quarter, which we did in October,

3:03:26we amended the budget in January, February

3:03:29whenever the meeting shakes out.

3:03:32I'm looking at January, we would amend the budget.

3:03:35So there's an a minimal budget Amendment at each quarter.

3:03:38But again, I give that a huge caveat because I mean,

3:03:42we're just watching very closely if things change and shift

3:03:46in the COVID environment, then we

3:03:49will be prepared to trigger immediate reductions

3:03:55if we have to.

3:03:57So this may be outside of the universe here.

3:04:00But today in the paper it was in our Bart system

3:04:04is under dramatic financial problems as well.

3:04:08And they're going to be discussing

3:04:09how to give early retirements to get rid of a lot of the staff.

3:04:15We can't do that because we don't have the money.

3:04:17Is this is that right to be able to pay out on early retirement.

3:04:21Should that be an option.

3:04:23Well, there's different ways to.

3:04:26I don't know exactly what Bart's doing.

3:04:28I know that there are different options

3:04:30through the purse system to provide service credits.

3:04:33Some cities have provided a cash payment capability

3:04:37but we certainly aren't in a position to do that.

3:04:41We had we had tried to survey our employees several months

3:04:45ago to see if there was one of the things

3:04:49that we were exploring was perhaps

3:04:52because it's already budgeted and it wouldn't

3:04:54be an additional cost perhaps paying the cost of health care,

3:04:58for example, or a continuing benefit

3:05:00if people wanted to retire.

3:05:02And actually that was not popular.

3:05:05And so we didn't.

3:05:06That is not something that we pursued.

3:05:09So the retirements that are happening

3:05:12that we just honored to have fun for all

3:05:15of his years of service.

3:05:16We have a couple of more retirements that

3:05:18will be coming before you for proclamations

3:05:21and a few more retirements.

3:05:22Those were all expected.

3:05:24And as far as offering an additional service credit

3:05:27that does indeed have an additional cost, which

3:05:30I just don't think that we're in a position

3:05:32to offer that right now.

3:05:33Right a lot of the emails that I've gotten.

3:05:37And I discussed this with today is about the projection

3:05:41that we will have 9.2 million at the end of the fiscal year

3:05:45to be able to pay for the train and some of the folks

3:05:49are saying it doesn't add up in their calculations.

3:05:53It's more like six million.

3:05:55Can we have you respond and tell us

3:05:58why you do believe it's 9.2 million.

3:06:05I was going to say I market.

3:06:07I think it's because this is what's on the screen right now.

3:06:11I can't speak for how other people

3:06:13do their calculations right.

3:06:14Exactly mark if you want to share that.

3:06:17I mean, this is what we have right here.

3:06:20And if I wrote my scan to a guy and just said,

3:06:24there's no way that I can predict

3:06:25what other people predict.

3:06:27What I have inside me is a statement

3:06:30that shows how weak ties to the budget blast call him.

3:06:33Like I said is the budget column.

3:06:35And we benchmark this to the budget column and the first

3:06:37began and we've modified those numbers

3:06:40as we move along each month.

3:06:43Someone might argue that.

3:06:44Well, some of these revenues may not show up

3:06:46and therefore, there's going to be a shortfall.

3:06:48And therefore, that should probably result in a $6 million

3:06:50cash position at the end of June.

3:06:53But these are all hypotheticals.

3:06:56We have numbers that we've scoped out

3:06:59based on what we thought was appropriate at that point

3:07:02in time.

3:07:02And be brought the budget due for adoption.

The finance director flagged lines where the budget assumption itself was questionable.

On franchise taxes: the budget “is at the lowest level… for the last four years.” Previous estimates ran “somewhere in the ballpark of 1.35 to 1.4 million,” against a current budget of “about 1.2.”

His view: that figure is “what they've been bringing in fairly comfortably over the last three to four to five years,” so he would wait to the end of December before proposing a change.

His actual concern lay elsewhere: the direct impact of COVID on charges for services “seems to have been impacted sufficiently for us to alert you.”

The City Manager said any further reductions would be staff reductions, which equal service reductions, subject to bargaining; she preferred to see how the quarter ended, with layoffs and retirements taking effect at the end of December, before cutting again in January, unless a new lockdown forced immediate furloughs.

Business licenses had also “fell short.”

Residents' emails had disputed the $9.2 million cash projection as nearer $6 million; the finance director said the forecast is benchmarked to the budget and he would flag any change.

Significant

Franchise tax is budgeted at its lowest level in four years, and the finance director flags charges for services, mostly recreation, as the line that needs attention. The City Manager would wait for the quarter's end before further staff cuts.

19 Two point three, or one point five captions 3741–3990

3:07:05And if we notice things changing slightly differently from this,

3:07:08like I say always in these monthly presentations.

3:07:11We will definitely alert you to that.

3:07:13We won't wait till June to let you know that we

3:07:15are down to six million bucks.

3:07:17So that's something that I just thought

3:07:19I'd share with you because like I said,

3:07:21real property transfer taxes.

3:07:23Fortunately for us have ended up puds.

3:07:26I'm hoping to be connected to that.

3:07:28There's no guarantee that they'll do that.

3:07:30Sales taxes aren't as bad as we thought they

3:07:32would have been in the past.

3:07:34But then again, that's contingent upon COVID being

3:07:37contained within the next three to six months

3:07:40rec department revenues we thought was sensitive

3:07:42and we've already brought that to your attention

3:07:46the last is fiscal results are still pending.

3:07:49Like I'll point it out to you before we expected 2.3 million

3:07:52worst case scenario deficit that could

3:07:54be 1.5, 1.6 in which you that saving

3:07:58would automatically be flowing to this.

3:08:00And so these are things that are hanging

3:08:01out that will be confirmed at the end of the audit this year.

3:08:04And as Karen pointed out, put a finer point on it

3:08:08given all these nuances we have property taxes coming

3:08:11in the middle of December.

3:08:13You have other revenues coming in at the end of December.

3:08:15So these combined gives us confidence

3:08:17that we can point you in the right direction

3:08:19when the time comes to that point in time.

3:08:22No paying off that train obviously is critical.

3:08:26So I appreciate any sensitivity in your projections to that.

3:08:32Are there any other revenues that could come in.

3:08:35You mentioned, there are unforeseen revenues

3:08:37that could come in besides what you just mentioned.

3:08:42Again I mean a great example of that is the real property

3:08:45transfer tax that has been coming in

3:08:47and we expect it to 1,000 a month for the 12 months,

3:08:50we saw it begin 2.4 million.

3:08:52And I remember council asking me whether that was prudent enough

3:08:56to do this at the budget stage.

3:08:57And we said, well, we looked at the credit

3:08:59for the last couple of years.

3:09:00And we think it will come out of it 2.1.

3:09:02I'm confident that it will come out at 2.4

3:09:04then we could literally come out at lead like we did last year.

3:09:08So that's the unexpected revenue right there.

3:09:11And then again, in addition to my goal in trying to repay

3:09:15the crowd in July is also very I think guys that

3:09:18come to remember Quinto has always said any excess money

3:09:22needs to go to the bottom line and I'm

3:09:23very confident that that is something that we'd

3:09:25like to do as much as we can.

3:09:27And so that is the other feature of this whole thing.

3:09:31Yeah, no indication of how federal funds might

3:09:34come to support any of this or state funds or anything

3:09:36like that.

3:09:36But if they do happen to come in.

3:09:38We will count those down on line.

3:09:40I was just going to say I'm hopeful that a new president

3:09:43will open up some revenue and I want to be part of any lobbying

3:09:47that gets more state money and federal moneys

3:09:50to our local cities, especially the smaller cities.

3:09:53So so thank you for that.

3:09:57Our last question is our eyes are on it.

3:09:59It's due to finish a kafir when somehow completing the field

3:10:05buddy over the next few days, at which point, they go back,

3:10:09take a look at all the numbers and start

3:10:10crafting operating cash flow together

3:10:12with the draft financials.

3:10:14And that tends to happen throughout the whole month

3:10:15of December.

3:10:17And we have it in January or early February before.

3:10:20Exactly that's exactly what we had back in 2020.

3:10:24We had the Catholic completed by the end of January

3:10:26and ready for distribution as well.

3:10:29So it goes through the same level of rigor

3:10:32in terms of analysis and competitors

3:10:35and all the kind of things up to.

3:10:37Thank you.

3:10:44I think it's a question about the sales tax.

3:10:48I don't quite understand the sales

3:10:51tax that comes from transactions that are not in brick

3:10:58and mortars.

3:10:59So do we get sales tax, for example, from Amazon.

3:11:07Yes in fact, not just Amazon.

3:11:11It's Walmart, Amazon Safeway anything that the transaction

3:11:15happens online is counted as sales taxes

3:11:19from the county point of view.

3:11:20And we get a shot of that.

3:11:22OK So it comes into the county it comes in to the county

3:11:25and we get a shot of that.

3:11:27And then how is it distributed to our city.

3:11:30It's in proportion to our overall sales tax

3:11:34as a percentage of what we've always got.

3:11:38All I was getting that particular month

3:11:43about doing that.

3:11:44But he gave months, meaning there's

3:11:45a two up towards the end of the fiscal year

3:11:48where they go back and make the adjustments.

3:11:50But the CTA affair has a formula for calculating sales taxes

3:11:55and distributing to the jurisdictions.

3:11:57And that includes recognition of how much sales

3:11:59tax is not going to get OK.

3:12:03So a city that gives more sales tax from brick and mortar

3:12:08will get more sales tax out of the pot

3:12:13that comes from, say Amazon that is typically yes, the formula.

3:12:18OK OK.

3:12:19Thank you.

3:12:22And guess my only question.

3:12:24Just me the number already.

3:12:31Gabe here you go.

3:12:32Yes, thank you there, I just have one question.

3:12:37Can you explain how the sales tax works like let's say,

3:12:43for a car dealership let's say, for Honda

3:12:46if someone purchases a car that does not live in El Reno.

3:12:52Do we get a portion of that sales tax or what.

3:12:58Or would that go to the city where the buyer buys lips.

3:13:06Does that make any sense.

3:13:07Right So there are a couple of pieces

3:13:10in the sales tax formula.

3:13:11But we get sales taxes from one is the so-called Bradley

3:13:16burns 1% shot up sales taxes.

3:13:19And the other piece is what we call the district

3:13:22taxes, those that are taxes imposed

3:13:24by the jurisdiction itself.

3:13:26So if someone were to buy something

3:13:27from outside the jurisdiction, we would

3:13:29still get a district component.

3:13:31Taxes that is the sales tax would

3:13:33be computed based on the location

3:13:35of the person buying it.

3:13:38So that's the basis of the formula.

3:13:39But you just get a portion of that.

3:13:42OK That's why we encourage people

3:13:44to buy cars that also you know.

3:13:46So follows this line of looking are looking forward to having

3:13:51else to Reno residents.

3:13:53Look at that you rent sale at Christmas sale.

3:13:55So let's go shopping else to read it

3:13:58and looking forward to Honda, making big business

3:14:03and lots of sales in the month of December,

3:14:06and there Iran clearance.

3:14:08Thank you, You're going to get a motion

3:14:13to extend the meeting to 11 sort of second and get a roll call

3:14:19vote, please.

3:14:20Mr Lyman yes.

3:14:22May I pretend fidelity.

3:14:23Yes and able thing.

3:14:25Yes council member patty Mackey motor.

3:14:28Yes Canton I'm making too.

3:14:30Yes motion carries.

3:14:32Thank you.

3:14:34My question was asked and answered earlier with regard

3:14:37to the shortfall.

3:14:39And reckoned park and certainly fits

3:14:40in with the bullet you had.

3:14:43Therefore I'm going to go to my script about public comments

3:14:48at this point.

3:14:50At this time, members of the public

3:14:53who wish to provide public comments for this item

3:14:56should use the Raise hand feature to request to speak.

3:15:00And I know that C Clarke has several comments

3:15:04that we got in earlier.

3:15:06You have up on the screen.

3:15:10Yes, thank you.

3:15:11Anyway we're giving everyone an opportunity

3:15:13to raise their hand to speak.

3:15:14We did receive written comments on this agenda

3:15:17item from the Irish air.

3:15:18Now Dan Schulman Kathy and Bill Marlene George.

3:15:23And next around no at this point.

3:15:31I do not see any hands requesting to speak.

3:15:44All right.

3:15:46I'm going to go ahead and close the public comment

3:15:49period on this item and come back for council comments.

3:15:58I know I have some.

3:16:00And actually, I I'm going to just go ahead and lead off.

3:16:04And it starts with my comments about where

3:16:07my questions about the recreation revenue

3:16:09and certainly builds on.

3:16:12Your comments and your agenda item.

3:16:15And I'm going to preface my comments

3:16:17with saying I came from the correct commission

3:16:20to the council.

3:16:20So I. I think the programs that the park rec offers

3:16:24is something I'm not only familiar with.

3:16:26I'm invested in it.

3:16:29And I'm also going to remind us of the recommendations

3:16:31that partners gave us that you shouldn't you

3:16:35can scale a program down not terminated because it's

3:16:38much harder to start a program.

3:16:40If you do terminated.

3:16:43That said rito and we are proud of it.

3:16:48And it's certainly something that we've

3:16:50talked about in many council meetings over the years.

3:16:54We offer a tremendous range of services

3:16:59that young guard normal conditions pay for themselves.

3:17:04But they are there extra services

3:17:07their school programs they're all sorts of things.

3:17:10And they're not necessarily what I would consider

3:17:13or public safety programs or other types

3:17:16of programs that are or are classic

3:17:19to our city's obligations.

3:17:23The fact that the rec program is not living within it

3:17:28means that there is this.

3:17:32There are programs that are not currently generating revenue.

3:17:38That leads me to make the following request.

3:17:42And it would be something that we would

3:17:45need to have other council member support for this

3:17:48to go forward.

3:17:48But in essence, I would like the city manager to come back

3:17:53and tell us which programs are.

3:17:56Martin no.

3:17:57Do not currently have the revenue

3:17:59to support the current staff.

3:18:01We're carrying it.

3:18:04And basically identify the program

3:18:06cuts in recreation that reflect our current reduced revenue.

3:18:13The sooner we make these reductions the sooner

3:18:18we can get to a stable spot.

3:18:22And we're not looking at a negative number

3:18:24in that last in that June month on that the 12 month cash flow.

3:18:30So we need a night understand this.

3:18:34This has union or group repercussions

3:18:36and we have negotiations going.

3:18:39But the sooner we can know which programs are not carrying

3:18:42their weight financially.

3:18:45And I know that the agenda bill talked about 5 1 the bullets

3:18:50that those in there talks about five full time

3:18:54positions in the third quarter.

3:18:57But my concern is that even waiting to the third quarter

3:19:00is too much.

3:19:01And the sooner that we bring it up and we have it on the table,

3:19:04and we understand which programs they are

3:19:08or we can potentially make smaller cuts

3:19:12and maybe it isn't five people.

3:19:14Maybe it's three people because it's

3:19:15for a longer period of time.

3:19:17So and then that falls in line with the recommendation

3:19:22from management part of where you scale it down.

3:19:24You don't terminated.

3:19:26So simple request that for our December 1 or our December 15

3:19:32meeting the city manager brings us identifies which programs do

3:19:37not have the revenue to support current staff

3:19:41and which program would you know which programs proposed

3:19:45program cuts in recreation reflect

3:19:48our current reduced revenue.

3:19:51And so that we can take that up as advisement.

The year-end projection was given as a range, pending the audit.

The expectation: “we expected 2.3 million worst case scenario deficit” — but “that could be 1.5, 1.6” million instead.

Where the difference would go: “that saving would automatically be flowing” through to the fund balance.

The confirmation point: “these are things that… will be confirmed at the end of the audit this year.”

That audit is what ultimately revises the prior year's closing balance from minus $2.3 million to minus $110,000, reported in February.

The finance director added the timing that made the picture provisional: “we have property taxes coming in the middle of December. You have other revenues coming in at the end of December.”

So these combined would let him “point you in the right direction when the time comes.” Transfer tax could reach $2.4 million against a $2.1 million estimate.

The Mayor then asked the City Manager to identify, for December, which recreation programs lacked the revenue to support current staff, and to propose program cuts reflecting the reduced revenue, scaling programs down rather than ending them.

Significant

A worst-case deficit of $2.3 million might land at $1.5 or $1.6 million, pending the audit. The audit puts the prior year's closing balance at minus $110,000, reported in February 2021.

20 Programs that don't cover themselves captions 3991–4192

3:19:55So I would certainly appreciate as people go through.

3:20:01And give their comments, whether they

3:20:03wait for them to let us know whether they support

3:20:07this request for information.

3:20:11And it wouldn't name the name people.

3:20:15But it would name programs that are essentially getting

3:20:19revenues for themselves.

3:20:21May I support what you just said completely.

3:20:25So Yes great.

3:20:29Do you have any other comments on the budget report

3:20:32that we've received.

3:20:34You know I had the same concerns dealing

3:20:36with the future of COVID.

3:20:41And we are going to deal with COVID during this winter time.

3:20:44So I want to make sure that we live within our means.

3:20:49And and this will be a way where we need to see the data.

3:20:55And so definitely support what you just said there.

3:21:01Looking at that and asking our city manager

3:21:04to give us more data on this.

3:21:08And we will discuss and we will go forward on this.

3:21:13Great, thank you.

3:21:14I don't know who on muted first Janet or Paul.

3:21:17So we'll go with Janet first.

3:21:21So we're Yeah we're doing comments on the budget report

3:21:28and I've asked for direction for support

3:21:32to give direction to the city manager

3:21:35to come to a future meeting with programs

3:21:39recreation programs that are essentially not bringing

3:21:43in the revenue to support them.

3:21:46Well we've always had programs that were in that situation.

3:21:51So the I think not sure that's the question.

3:21:57It seems to me the question is maybe

3:22:02is there revenue in the budget for that probe in that section

3:22:08of the budget for that program because some programs are paid,

3:22:17for example, say you're a senior you your programs

3:22:20don't pay for themselves.

3:22:21But there are a number of programs

3:22:24that generate revenue that typically pay for themselves.

3:22:29And I didn't think that was the dance correct.

3:22:32I'm concerned about the ones that

3:22:34are generating a negative $600,000 on the year

3:22:39in lack of revenue for us.

3:22:43So I'm just curious which programs they are and like

3:22:46to find out more about them.

3:22:47Well if I remember correctly, they were just using it

3:22:49as an example, the senior center doesn't because they give

3:22:56a discount for one reason or one thing

3:23:01because there's I think you that seniors can't afford it.

3:23:07So and that's part of rec the rec department.

3:23:12So I'm not sure what are we actually

3:23:16programs that you Parmelee pay for themselves that do not

3:23:21or that are not paying for themselves.

3:23:23Now because there is a lack of revenue.

3:23:27I already acknowledged the senior center.

3:23:30We do subsidize the senior center.

3:23:32We've we've done that year over year intentionally.

3:23:37Correct and so it's a policy decision.

3:23:40So So what are we just wanting to know which ones are.

3:23:45Is that what the intent is.

3:23:46I'm asking.

3:23:47I'm asking for the city manager to come with a beat

3:23:51with basically with a proposal.

3:23:54Programs cuts that reflect our reduced revenue.

3:24:01We have reduced revenue.

3:24:03It's very clearly in the agenda report

3:24:05that there's reduced revenue.

3:24:07And the fiscally prudent thing would be to figure out

3:24:10which programs need to be curtailed

3:24:14to reflect that reduced revenue, we have

3:24:19to figure out reduction Jess.

3:24:22I don't know if that's the case complete.

3:24:25If the criteria is that we're only doing programs

3:24:32that pay for themselves.

3:24:35We may we're going to have to approach that.

3:24:38Certainly but anyway, I think we should

3:24:42figure out what our know look at what our power policy has been.

3:24:48And then take that into consideration along the way.

3:24:53I mean, are we not going to allow

3:24:55child care subsidies anymore.

3:25:01And if I'm asking for recommendations from staff

3:25:04on what cuts are necessary to reflect

3:25:07the repo reduced revenue that we are seeing

3:25:11I'll give you that statement.

3:25:12I think I could.

3:25:16Me that's a better way of saying it.

3:25:21Are you looking for emotion.

3:25:25I don't.

3:25:26I don't know if we can do emotion.

3:25:29I guess we do need emotion.

3:25:31There's a guy I'm looking to you at this point.

3:25:35I was doing straw poll for four basically giving direction.

3:25:39But if it needs to be emotion.

3:25:42Let us know.

3:25:43I believe that if a majority of the council

3:25:45says that they would like to receive this information

3:25:47Karen will take her direction and bring

3:25:49that information back.

3:25:54Thank you.

3:25:56Janet do you have any other comments on the report.

3:25:58We got to make.

3:25:59No pull.

3:26:02Yes so because I don't think any of us

3:26:06see great positiveness ahead of us here.

3:26:08I totally concur with what the mayor has asked for.

3:26:13Since the staff report says they are preparing scenarios.

3:26:17I would love to see something tangible

3:26:20and let's move this along and come up with some decisions

3:26:23here about where we can get a bit leaner.

3:26:27So that we can conservatively anticipate what's ahead of us

3:26:31here.

3:26:32It doesn't mean, we have to act on those things.

3:26:34But I think having that information in front of us

3:26:37and seeing what decisions we have to make is important.

3:26:40So I would be in favor of this.

3:26:44Rochelle yes I agree with what you're saying there.

3:26:51Lyman I was quite concerned myself about the shortfall

3:26:59in recreation and even the shortfall

3:27:03that we've had year to date thus far is going

3:27:09to be difficult to make up.

3:27:10So I think the quicker that we can act

3:27:13to write the budget the better.

3:27:16I don't think I mean, if it were up to me.

3:27:20And I had a magic wand you'd probably do it in this meeting

3:27:23since I don't have a lot of time left.

3:27:25But I think at least bringing it back the next week

3:27:30so that we can make some more decisions hopefully will

3:27:35be the best course of action.

3:27:39And you know it's all very sad.

3:27:43I know that you were concerned about the recreation department

3:27:47from the very get go walking into COVID

3:27:52knowing that this was going to affect

3:27:54them in such a major way.

3:27:57And and I mean, I know, just from my own family where we're

3:28:02usually pumping serious amounts of cash

3:28:06into the recreation department all year long.

3:28:09And we haven't spent any money.

3:28:13And I don't know.

3:28:14I mean, I'm not I know I'm not making

3:28:17judgments based just on myself.

3:28:20But I know that there's probably going

3:28:23to be a lot of permanent changes amongst the families going

3:28:29forward.

3:28:30I know a lot of reading articles about how a lot of women

3:28:34are dropping out of the workforce

3:28:36to take care of their kids now.

3:28:38And they may not return.

3:28:41I know that the way we've set up our family to function.

3:28:45Now probably even have school started back up.

3:28:48It probably wouldn't be as the after school programs anymore.

3:28:51They don't leave we've made it.

3:28:53So that it's not necessary in our family.

3:28:57I certainly welcome back the summer camps

3:29:00when that's able to come along.

3:29:02But like I said, I'm just one example of how

3:29:06health things have changed.

3:29:08So it's with a heavy heart and a sadness

3:29:14that I see things changing the way that they are.

3:29:17But hopefully, in years to come things will rebound.

3:29:22But I think we need to be very prudent with our budget

3:29:27at this time.

3:29:28I'd also just like to make one comment.

3:29:30I think said in his presentation somewhere along the way

3:29:34that he was looking three to six months

3:29:39or some sort of resolution.

3:29:43And I don't think that's going to be the case.

3:29:44I mean, just from also reading where the vaccines are

3:29:50and how long it's going to take to distribute

3:29:53and the compliance amongst people

3:29:55not even wanting to take it.

3:29:58And then further along how long it

3:30:00would take to get Herd immunity, I

3:30:02think we're three to six months is

3:30:04certainly not going to happen.

3:30:07So we really need to be a little like long term a year

3:30:10out probably minimum for things to really

3:30:13turn around in my opinion.

3:30:15So thank you for the presentation.

3:30:19And I hope we can really come up with some solutions

3:30:23in the near future.

3:30:27Thank you, everyone.

3:30:28Karen, do you need any additional clarification

3:30:31on the repost.

3:30:35I'm sorry.

3:30:36My video went out for a moment.

3:30:37So I'm sorry about that.

3:30:38No thank you your honor.

3:30:40And thank you city council.

3:30:41Certainly this is data that we can work with our staff to put

3:30:46together and provide to you.

3:30:48And we'll be happy to do that as soon as we can.

3:30:53The timing of course, is with the next couple

3:30:55of council meetings we'll just be mindful of that.

3:30:57So I will work particularly with our recreation

3:31:01director and our finance director

3:31:03to provide that information.

3:31:06And again, looking to make some decisions.

3:31:11You know I coming up through December, January.

3:31:15Thank you.

3:31:16Great, thank you.

3:31:18That concludes item 7 a our receive

3:31:23in discussion of the climate fund

3:31:25budget update for October 2020.

The Mayor sought the Council's support for his request.

As he restated it: that the City Manager “come to a future meeting with programs” — “recreation programs that are essentially not bringing in the revenue to support them.”

Abelson objected: “we've always had programs that were in that situation,” such as the senior center, which the city subsidizes as a policy decision.

Quinto's framing of the winter ahead: “we are going to deal with COVID during this winter time. So I want to make sure that we live within our means.”

His ask: “we need to see the data… asking our city manager to give us more data on this.”

Fadelli and Pardue-Okimoto supported the request, she expecting recovery to take a year at least, and the City Manager said she would bring the data.

Significant

The Mayor asks for a list of recreation programs whose revenue no longer supports their staff, with proposed cuts; Abelson answers that some programs, like the senior center, are subsidized by design.

21 After the center seat captions 4193–4420

3:31:28We now go on to item seven B. 70 is

3:31:32city council policy subcommittee report and recommendations.

3:31:36And I will say that this was something

3:31:42that Cheryl Morris and I talked about

3:31:44many years ago of starting bringing

3:31:47our policy matters together.

3:31:50And in looking at them and certainly with Holly

3:31:54joining us and her perspective and an energy level.

3:32:00It's something that we certainly have

3:32:03been able to move forward with.

3:32:06So we did put a subcommittee together last spring.

3:32:12We did meet over the summer August and September

3:32:18and to discuss segments and in some cases, some

3:32:23of the portions in great detail to come up with the document

3:32:28that we are presenting to you tonight.

3:32:31This document that the staff report.

3:32:35And I appreciate staff putting together such a detailed staff

3:32:39report the staff report does highlight a lot of the sections

3:32:43that are in the document.

3:32:47In it it basically the one that there was an article I read

3:32:52last year in Western city magazine

3:32:57caused me to think about this move forward.

3:32:59And that's the beyond ethics establishing code of conduct

3:33:02to guide your counsel.

3:33:04And so between particle and a longstanding desire to do this.

3:33:10We've we've put together the document that's before you

3:33:14and the staff report does do a very good job.

3:33:18The agenda bill does a very good job of summarizing

3:33:21the points that are in here.

3:33:23There is one that you know that I want to make

3:33:28sure that everyone is aware of.

3:33:30And that's the rotation of the city council officers.

3:33:34And I think I've said this once before that Leonard McNeil

3:33:43a former San Pablo city council member

3:33:49said something to me once about a decade ago.

3:33:52And I've now seen it happen with various members

3:33:56of that I've served with.

3:33:58Is that a council member is a much better council member

3:34:02once they've served in the center seat and the one change

3:34:07to the policy for selecting members.

3:34:12Is that for people within a particular election cycle.

3:34:18So for example, the election cycle from four years ago

3:34:21was Paul Rochelle and I for four.

3:34:28Did mayor mayor pro tem and the mayor

3:34:31would go to members that have not been mayors before.

3:34:35So a good example, in our cycle from four years ago

3:34:41is that Paul would have been selected or proposed as mayor

3:34:48in advance of me because I've served

3:34:50two bit mayorship twice before.

3:34:52So it would have been her shell as a result

3:34:54of the top vote getter and then Paul it upsets me.

3:34:59That's that's the suggested change to the selection

3:35:03of the city council members.

3:35:04So I just wanted to clarify, because it's a nuance

3:35:09that I want to make sure people were

3:35:11aware of where I'm standing.

3:35:13I even found that if that's the way it's intended to work.

3:35:19And I read it twice this weekend to see if that's how it works.

3:35:26And that is the way it's written.

3:35:28But if they need more clarity because that

3:35:32if you're not seeing that what that's the way it reference.

3:35:36But it wasn't detailed enough to know what it meant.

3:35:43You have to look in the actual which slang there's some very

3:35:47strong attachment you have to look in the attachment

3:35:51the actual documents the.

3:35:57We have an agenda bill.

3:35:58But that's not the actual policies and procedures.

3:36:02It's I'm looking.

3:36:04I think it's in want to say it's in section 10

3:36:08page 81 of 116 and the agenda market.

3:36:17Thank you.

3:36:17I can't remember a party committed.

3:36:19I was looking for the page.

3:36:20No but it is in section 2, which is

3:36:23or section 3 of the administrative policy document

3:36:26for selection of city council officers.

3:36:29There is a handful of subset paragraphs

3:36:32and it is in the third paragraph down where it does mention

3:36:37preference will be given to date have not yet served as mayor

3:36:40current goals.

3:36:44So you're saying, this is the one

3:36:47Amendment to what the current adopted practice is.

3:36:50Where is it stated in the order.

3:36:54It's in section 3 of the administrative policy document,

3:36:58which is right on July 1.

3:37:01Page 81 of 116 OK.

3:37:06I still haven't found it.

3:37:10OK The mayor a newly OK, let's see

3:37:17a newly elected council member just not the incumbent

3:37:24will serve as a minimum.

3:37:26OK correct.

3:37:27That's the same.

3:37:29The mayor approach him or replace the outgoing mayor.

3:37:34The Mayor Jim will be the council member who receives

3:37:38the highest number of votes compared to others

3:37:41in the same cycle preference.

3:37:45How do you give preference when you're doing killing those who

3:37:49have not yet served as mayor.

3:37:55I think this is not worded right.

3:37:57Maybe it's not.

3:38:01It's not doing what you want it to do.

3:38:06Well that's the sentence though since you just

3:38:07started with preference that's the sentence

3:38:09that is intended to do that.

3:38:12Yes I don't think it does.

3:38:14OK I think if you wanted to do that.

3:38:23That's a look.

3:38:24The look so he's got you.

3:38:37Let's say that you've got a let's say this cycle

3:38:42that we're about to enter.

3:38:46There will be new people who will become

3:38:51mayor pro tem so in two years.

3:38:58So if again, we're following the rotation.

3:39:03So in two years when after the current cycle

3:39:08has gone in place.

3:39:11It it would go, Lisa tests and then Paul

3:39:14because Paul is going to serve.

3:39:16We think Paul will serve mayor next year.

3:39:22I am really sorry.

3:39:28He will have served.

3:39:31He will serve this year would be my assumption.

3:39:36Oh yes he's mayor pro tem.

3:39:38So all indications are that he would be mayor.

3:39:43So he's not 2021.

3:39:45So he's already done done with what

3:39:50is turn your turn for that cycle no the mayor

3:39:55for is Mayor for next year is based on the cycle from 20.

3:40:00From 2016 my assumption that he's the mayor pro

3:40:10tem right now.

3:40:11Correct based on the 2016 election.

3:40:15So why wouldn't you be mayor.

3:40:18Every indication is that he would be mayor.

3:40:20Based on his 2016 election.

3:40:23OK So what's the logic.

3:40:31Maybe that's my question.

3:40:33So little let's go.

3:40:34But if this had been in place three years ago, if this thing.

3:40:41I agree the sentence could be worded differently.

3:40:43But if the intent was in place four years ago, then

3:40:47it would have gone Rochelle Paul Greg.

3:40:52Not necessarily in the orders of oats.

3:40:56But because I had served mayor already

3:40:58Paul would have been mayor before me.

3:41:01So that we had him in the center seat to become

3:41:04a better council member.

3:41:10I guess I'm not understanding what

3:41:16you're trying to accomplish.

3:41:19So a good example, would have been Rebecca Bennis

3:41:22any great Rebecca Venus any day never got a chance

3:41:26to serve as Mayor and in the year

3:41:30that she could have potentially been mayor.

3:41:33Based on our rotation rules you were

3:41:35mayor for your fourth time.

3:41:37I think it was.

3:41:38So the question would she be a better council member

3:41:43if she chose not to run again.

3:41:44But would she be a better council

3:41:46member as a result of being having served as mayor.

3:41:57I'm not sure that that's the reason

3:42:03that she didn't get to be a council

3:42:09member because she didn't.

3:42:12She left the council.

3:42:14I mean, she didn't.

3:42:15Had she stayed on the council she would have been mayor.

3:42:20But the reason she didn't return was because she

3:42:24didn't stand because she could.

3:42:28If this rule had been in place, there

3:42:31would have been a preference for her

3:42:33to be mayor in advance of you.

3:42:35Even though you got more votes than her.

3:42:39But why is I mean, I guess to me the person who gets here

3:42:44votes is would not go first.

3:42:51I understand the logic that the logic is that the person who

3:42:55has fewer votes and that has never been mayor

3:42:59should be mayor in advance of a person who has more votes

3:43:02but that has been mayor then you're

3:43:14ignoring the fact that they love the number of oats.

3:43:17The people got.

3:43:21You are correct that with it when there

3:43:23is a person with when there is a person who has served as mayor

3:43:28versus a person who has not served as mayor,

3:43:31the number of votes would not count.

3:43:34But if you have three people and none of them

3:43:37have served as mayor then the number of votes

3:43:39that they got counts actually.

3:43:43I don't follow that logic at all.

3:43:45The because if there's somebody who got on the council

3:43:58I would think that given it.

3:44:03I don't even particularly want it.

3:44:06The person who gets fewer votes might not be as good as mayor

3:44:14that then they would have another year to practice

3:44:21on the council right.

3:44:23I understand.

3:44:24That's why it's written the way it is.

3:44:25Preference this is all just a guidance.

3:44:29This is not a hard and fast rule that very

3:44:33clearly somebody does.

3:44:35Somebody doesn't have to be.

3:44:36We only have to follow this rule as you know.

3:44:42We don't have to follow this rule even you mean council

3:44:48can declare what's right.

3:44:50Oh there's that statement here.

3:44:53This is just a recommendation.

3:44:54Did you take that out.

3:44:56No I think I believe it's at it.

3:45:09The all the count the city council

3:45:10has the ultimate discretion to elect or not elect any council

3:45:14member for any office.

3:45:15I can't find that here.

3:45:19It's s a screen from the screen.

3:45:22I can't see the screen.

3:45:24It is the paragraph, you were just

3:45:26writing with the sense this preference go down

3:45:28for paragraphs from the paragraph that

3:45:30says preference preference.

3:45:34Where is that word.

3:45:35I don't know that you were just reading it if it was

3:45:38the other day on the internet.

3:45:41Is it one of the end in it.

3:45:43No it's the first one after the indented Oh, hey, I see.

3:45:55OK That's that's kind of if people don't get along.

3:45:59You can do that, which I did in my time.

3:46:04We have not done the last time that was used

3:46:09was when normal force didn't get to be mayor

3:46:14as far as I remember.

3:46:16But to your point, where if somebody is not if somebody

3:46:20is not worthy or ready to be to sit-in the center seat

3:46:25you would use that sentence to override this preference.

The policy subcommittee brought its document forward for the first time.

Its origin: the Mayor and a former colleague had “talked about many years ago” bringing the Council's policy matters together.

What made it possible now: the Clerk's “perspective and… energy level.”

The process: a subcommittee formed “last spring,” meeting “over the summer, August and September,” discussing sections “in great detail.”

Its prompt was an article read the previous year in a municipal magazine on ethics and good governance.

The Mayor singled out one change, to the rotation of officers. A former San Pablo councilmember had once told him that a councilmember is much better after serving in the center seat, so within an election cycle preference would go to members who had not yet been mayor. Under that rule, he said, Fadelli would have been mayor before him four years earlier, since he had already served as mayor.

A councilmember could not follow the logic of putting a member with fewer votes ahead of one with more, and asked where the draft said so. The answer was that the rule is guidance only: the Council keeps the discretion to elect any member to any office.

Significant

The council policy document had not been revised in twenty years. On 21 September 2021 the Clerk reports that an appointment process requested in 2005 was never formally adopted.

22 “I just vote no on the whole thing” captions 4421–4472

3:46:34May or may I make a comment.

3:46:36Go ahead.

3:46:38I don't believe that we have to reach a consensus on this.

3:46:42I believe that if counts for able sin is against it.

3:46:45She could just vote.

3:46:47Vote no on this resolution.

3:46:55That's correct.

3:46:56So I don't I just don't understand why.

3:47:01A low vote getter is the one you want to be mayor.

3:47:10Why why is that because they become better council members

3:47:18and that serves the city the best.

3:47:21I guess I don't believe that statement.

3:47:27Because wow I would say that this council

3:47:32generally agrees there.

3:47:35There are times.

3:47:38And I was on a council that was like that when it was very much

3:47:48conservative versus progressive and the people of the city

3:47:58voted just on and one way what they

3:48:03were stuck with some people that were the other way.

3:48:06And so yea it just doesn't feel it doesn't follow.

3:48:10I mean, I don't.

3:48:12Just doesn't seem to me, it.

3:48:16In a time when things don't go well in terms

3:48:19of putting at the ballot box.

3:48:24And there are two definite sides that doesn't apply at all.

3:48:37And at that time, the majority can

3:48:38use it like they did with the norm

3:48:41in the forest, the majority.

3:48:43Yes the other sentence to say, sorry,

3:48:45we're not going to follow this rule you

3:48:47still never gotten over that.

3:48:50But the majority can still do whatever what they want

3:48:54in this part in this process.

3:48:57So this is just a recommendation aside I guess I just

3:49:02vote no on the whole thing.

3:49:07Yes I think it's not an appropriate way to do it.

3:49:15OK I think that the appropriate way to do it

3:49:20is one that gives everybody a term and appears to be fair.

3:49:26And this appears to be you when you lose

3:49:31kind of a forum at 1 o'clock.

3:49:37Mr Mayor.

3:49:38Yeah go ahead.

3:49:40I was just going to.

3:49:41Besides this point is someone that

3:49:42was on the Senate subcommittee.

3:49:44I was the one thing.

3:49:45Anyone else had any issues on some of the other sections

3:49:48because this hasn't been addressed

3:49:51in 20 years and those changes to the expense account.

3:49:56There's changes to how actions against other council members

3:50:01if we feel good about all those we

3:50:03can to make the a vote on a hard time

The mayoral rotation provision drew an objection from Abelson.

The objection's substance: whatever the rule says, “the majority can still do whatever” it wants; “so this is just a recommendation.”

Then the position taken: “I guess I just vote no on the whole thing… I think it's not an appropriate way to do it.”

And what would be appropriate: “one that gives everybody a term and appears to be fair.”

Fadelli, who sat on the subcommittee, asked whether anyone “had any issues on some of the other sections because this hasn't been addressed in 20 years.”

Quinto supported the change, saying Fadelli should have been mayor sooner.

Changes included the expense account provisions and “how actions against other council members” are taken.

Confusion followed about which document version was under discussion.

Significant

Abelson objects that the mayoral rotation rule favors members with fewer votes, that “this is just a recommendation” a majority can override, and says she would vote no on the whole document.

23 Continued captions 4473–4680

3:50:08figuring out what was some other document

3:50:13and what was the document.

3:50:15We were considering right honest.

3:50:22So the mayor may have said something.

3:50:28Yes go ahead.

3:50:30Thank you.

3:50:30I just want to say thank you to Mayor pro tem of FLE

3:50:34and to you may or for looking at this.

3:50:38This should have been looked at many, many years ago.

3:50:42And looking at my time on the council you know when

3:50:47and hearing from former mayors of the past.

3:50:51I should have been mayor or before 2018.

3:50:55Looking at this.

3:50:58And this was used before 20 years ago.

3:51:03And I think we can use this again in the future.

3:51:06So we do not have the situation that where Paul FLE

3:51:14and had to wait all these years to become mayor.

3:51:18He should have been mayor before that.

3:51:20So but I agree with this.

3:51:22And I would support this.

3:51:26Thank you.

3:51:29It is 5.

3:51:30And four minutes to 11:00.

3:51:33I'm not necessarily seeking an extension to cover this,

3:51:36we can.

3:51:38I think can we.

3:51:39We do have enough room on the December 1 agenda

3:51:43to cover this excuse me.

3:51:48Yes your honor.

3:51:49I believe we had anticipated that if the city council was

3:51:54wanting to use this time as a study session

3:51:57that we can address this on December 1.

3:52:01Excellent that the other one that

3:52:04took Paul's credit that he's trying

3:52:06to highlight for everybody is Roman section 4.

3:52:14It's probably near the tail end of the page.

3:52:20I don't know what page it is in the other 116

3:52:24or whatever your total number is because I'm

3:52:26looking at the online version.

3:52:30But I know I know there it is section 4.

3:52:34So what page 104 16 and in Paul you just

3:52:42touched on it in a brief way.

3:52:44But part of the article does talk about making sure that you

3:52:48have an enforcement mechanism.

3:52:50And this is the enforcement mechanism.

3:52:54And if it is new.

3:52:56Right we didn't have one before, but the League of cities

3:53:00article does recommend it.

3:53:02And we talked through what it is.

3:53:05And in essence, the process is it

3:53:11is a council member that believes that somebody

3:53:16else's had misconduct.

3:53:20This is the mechanism by which they would essentially

3:53:25ineffective identify that and bring it to basically a hearing

3:53:32process where it would be debated in

3:53:36and potentially resolved.

3:53:39So this is a new section.

3:53:44So I certainly want to make sure that all council members have

3:53:46had a chance to look at this.

3:53:49It is section 4 correct.

3:53:54Yeah so that's something I in our waning moments

3:53:58I certainly wanted to make sure that if you've not

3:54:01had a chance to look at the entirety of this document

3:54:03that you take a few moments to look at this.

3:54:06There are a couple of quick changes that I wanted to make

3:54:13sure that were captured.

3:54:14There's two places where we talk about

3:54:15pledge of Allegiance and in both of those cases, it's.

3:54:19It's basically talking about the agenda.

3:54:22And I would want to make sure that we

3:54:23add or moment of silence.

3:54:26That certainly was a very lengthy discussion

3:54:30in Marc Freedman brought that to our counsel eight years ago.

3:54:35And into that in both places where

3:54:38it says pledge of Allegiance or a moment of silence

3:54:41should be hopefully you would all

3:54:43agree that we should add that.

3:54:47And then under it's under z And I can't remember it.

3:54:52Page z is on it.

3:54:55It calls out for noises and I just

3:54:57want to say unnecessary clapping is it is

3:55:01potentially a disruptive noise.

3:55:03Right now it just lists lists Boos

3:55:05and hisses but unnecessary clapping

3:55:10can also be a disruptive noise was it.

3:55:15Those are some of the quick ones that I want

3:55:16to throw in and let you know that we will take

3:55:21this up again on December 1.

3:55:24You know one other problem.

3:55:26I have is that the organization that I had trouble with finding

3:55:32something I'm wondering if there was a table of contents

3:55:43somewhere, let's say here if I can find the beginning, even

3:55:51this is, can I get a motion to extend five minutes

3:56:03and extend my those moved move by ables and seconded by Keto

3:56:11me climbing yes mayor pro tem FLE is I

3:56:18can't remember Ableton.

3:56:20All right.

3:56:21And remember Pardue Okamoto.

3:56:23No member can tell yes.

3:56:26Mushing case.

3:56:29So I can find a page it says administrative policies

3:56:35and rules of order and procedure last revised November 2020.

3:56:40So I would assume that's the new one right.

3:56:46Yes are you on page 76 of 116.

3:56:49Yes go to the next page as the table

3:56:52of contents table of contents.

3:56:54But I can't find any trouble finding another week to write.

3:57:04We have another week to review it right.

3:57:07Welcome back.

3:57:11Just like Janice is that can I make a comment.

3:57:15Something else to look at that the expense

3:57:18account section is very pro saving money in the budget.

3:57:23It's about making sure that we monitor our own finances

3:57:28and ask for money and ask permission through the city

3:57:31to make reservations et cetera.

3:57:34The one thing, Mr Mayor that I didn't

3:57:37see as I read through this.

3:57:39Two or three times.

3:57:40And it's a very useful document.

3:57:41I think when you do get sit down with a cup of coffee and look

3:57:45through it is your concern, always,

3:57:47about council people being as leaders on committee meetings.

3:57:52There was no prescription or direction on that.

3:57:56Maybe we don't need to do that.

3:57:57But I just know that that was something you cared about.

3:58:01The like not being in the meeting very long not

3:58:06dictating what they should do for a committee

3:58:09or a council convention.

3:58:12That's the Senate decorum.

3:58:15The council members decorum at a board or commission meeting

3:58:19is not as I find it.

3:58:22I couldn't find it.

3:58:23So if that's something you care about.

3:58:25Maybe that's something for the next meeting.

3:58:26But I think we have time to look at it.

3:58:28I think it's a good piece of work.

3:58:32And it's very helpful for me.

3:58:37Continuing on with the council me to Delhi if I may add there

3:58:43is a separate resolution related to the conduct

3:58:46of council members in the role of carefully

3:58:48chosen for the advisory bodies.

3:58:50It's a standalone resolution, which is why it was

3:58:52not included in our document.

3:58:54Not in this.

3:58:54Shouldn't it be in this.

3:58:57If that's the council direction we sir could

3:58:59maybe actually begin that.

3:59:01I think there's like just two sentences

3:59:03about being assigned on.

3:59:05And I thought that would be the appropriate place

3:59:07for how you conduct business as a liaison

3:59:10to a commissioner committee.

3:59:13Easier to find if it's something I didn't find it here

3:59:19because this is it.

3:59:20This is everything thrown in if I may continue on.

3:59:27This is a document that excludes disability issues.

3:59:35So for example, it talks about the rules for where you stay

3:59:44and if you need it.

3:59:47An accessible room.

3:59:49You can't follow these rules.

3:59:51And this is discriminatory.

3:59:56To put it mildly.

3:59:57Council member Ableton are you referring

3:59:59to the trouble resolution.

4:00:00The second version on this item there.

4:00:03There is a clause in there that does state that at the cost.

4:00:09The cost is not.

4:00:12If there is disability needs that would override

4:00:15that reduction in classes.

4:00:18Let me locate it for you just one.

4:00:19Thank you.

4:00:24Because I previously have had a lot of problems with that Mayor

4:00:31with that issue.

4:00:34Yeah, good good.

4:00:35Thank you.

4:00:36I have a question to you.

4:00:38I come off the deli regarding regional boards

4:00:44and what I understood from previous mayors.

4:00:47There is no such thing as I get to stay

4:00:52on this particular regional board forever.

4:00:56And I want to make sure in the future

4:00:59that council members in the future.

4:01:01Have a chance to be along to every regional board that

4:01:09is out there.

4:01:11We've been blocked time and time in my six years

4:01:15in being part of transportation, for example.

4:01:20So looking at that, I want to make sure that we don't

4:01:24go through that ever again.

4:01:26And that this does not exist.

4:01:29There's no such thing as that.

4:01:32And then previous mayors have confirmed with me

4:01:36that this truly does not exist.

4:01:39So yes.

4:01:41Yep I appreciate that.

4:01:43So you would like to see a rotation

4:01:44of original assignments incorporated.

4:01:47We do.

4:01:48We have exhausted our time for this evening.

4:01:53So at this time, it's going to move

4:01:58to item 9, which is adjournment of the regular city

4:02:02council meeting.

4:02:03It is now 11 was 6.

4:02:05And we are adjourned.

4:02:06The next regularly scheduled city council

4:02:08meeting is Tuesday, December 1 2020 at 7 PM by teleconference.

4:02:15Thank you, everyone.

4:02:16Thank you.

4:02:17Thank you.

The item did not conclude.

The difficulty was partly practical: members were unsure “what was” in “some other document and what was the document we were considering.”

The item was carried over to the 1 December meeting. Before closing, the Mayor pointed members to the new section 4, a process for hearing a complaint of misconduct by a councilmember, and asked that “or moment of silence” be added wherever the pledge of allegiance appears.

The Mayor also wanted “unnecessary clapping” listed with boos and hisses as a disruptive noise. Fadelli called the expense account section “very pro saving money” and noted the document said nothing about councilmembers' conduct at committee meetings, which staff said sits in a separate resolution. Abelson said the travel rules failed to accommodate disability; staff pointed to a clause allowing for disability needs. Quinto asked that regional board assignments rotate, saying no member holds a seat forever.

The meeting adjourned at 11:06, with the item to return on 1 December.

Cross-reference

The policy item is carried over to 1 December, after members could not tell which draft they were discussing.