Special City Council Meeting July 31, 2019

0:07:26meeting is called to order

0:07:32please call the roll

0:07:33council member fidelity

0:07:35here mayor pro-tem lyman president mayor

0:07:38pardue okimoto president council member

0:07:40abelson president councilmember quinto

0:07:43now we will have the pledge of

0:07:44allegiance by council member fidelity

0:07:48i pledge allegiance to the flag of the

0:07:51united states of america and to the

0:07:54republic for which it stands

0:07:56one nation under god indivisible with

0:08:00liberty and justice for all

0:08:08a quick report out from

0:08:10our 5 30 meeting

0:08:13we will

0:08:14not be appointing any

0:08:16one to the task force for the tenant

0:08:18protections task force as of yet

0:08:21we are going to since we had a small

0:08:23pool of applicants go ahead and

0:08:26interview

0:08:27the rest of the applicants before our

0:08:30august 20th meeting so if you did not

0:08:33have an interview tonight

0:08:35the city clerk will be contacting you

0:08:37about an interview for august 20th

0:08:43and we will make our decision after that

0:08:45meeting

0:08:47all right so next we would normally have

0:08:50oral communications from the public

0:08:52but since this is a

0:08:55special meeting there are special rules

0:08:57pursuant to the brown act

0:08:59public comments that special meetings

0:09:01are limited to agenda items only

0:09:04and therefore we will have our public

0:09:07speak on this item

0:09:09after we have

0:09:11the report from staff

0:09:14we move on to our policy matters

0:09:18and i would like to please have a

0:09:22come forward

0:09:24i'll be handling this your honor okay

0:09:26so thank you very much um i'm karen

0:09:28pinkes the city manager

0:09:31uh

0:09:31before you tonight is a consideration

0:09:36good

0:09:38thank you

0:09:39before you tonight is a consideration of

0:09:40your options with respect to the uh just

0:09:43cause eviction ordinance

0:09:46as you know on may 21st 2019 the city

0:09:48council adopted ordinance

0:09:512019-04 amending the title of the el

0:09:53cerino municipal code to add chapter

0:09:5610.300 just cause for eviction and

0:09:59prohibition on harassment of tenants

0:10:01related to termination of tenancy and

0:10:03other tenant protections

0:10:05upon its adoption the city clerk

0:10:06published the ordinance as required by

0:10:08law and attested the ordinance on may

0:10:1122nd 2019.

0:10:13on june 10th a referendum petition

0:10:15against the ordinance was filed with the

0:10:17city clerk

0:10:18upon conclusion of the initial review by

0:10:20the city and validation of signatures by

0:10:23the contra costa county clerk

0:10:25clerk record elections department the

0:10:28petition was found to contain sufficient

0:10:30signatures of registered voters in the

0:10:31city

0:10:32on july 16th the city council accepted

0:10:35the city clerk's certificate of petition

0:10:37and is now required pursuant to

0:10:39california elections code to take action

0:10:41and reconsider the ordinance that is

0:10:43what is before you this evening there

0:10:46are two options that the city council

0:10:48may take

0:10:49you may repeal the ordinance in its

0:10:51entirety or you can place the ordinance

0:10:53on a future ballot to be decided by

0:10:55voters

0:10:56if the city council repeals the

0:10:58ordinance it cannot be enacted again for

0:11:00a period of one year after the date of

0:11:02its repeal

0:11:03this would restrict the council from

0:11:05passing an ordinance of substantially

0:11:07the same content with an effective date

0:11:09prior to september twentieth twenty

0:11:11twenty

0:11:12if the city council decided to call an

0:11:14election for the purpose of submitting

0:11:16the ordinance to the voters the election

0:11:18must not be held must be held not less

0:11:22than 88 days from the date the election

0:11:24is called and can be no later than the

0:11:27next regular municipal election

0:11:29so this would require the election to be

0:11:31held between november 16th 2019 and

0:11:34november 3rd 2020.

0:11:37elections code allows for a special

0:11:39election on any date for a referendum

0:11:41election

0:11:42or an established election date and

0:11:44there are different election costs

0:11:46charged to the city based on whether or

0:11:47not the date would be a special election

0:11:50or an established election such as the

0:11:52march primary or november general

0:11:54election

0:11:56if an election is called ordinance

0:11:582019-04 would remain suspended and would

0:12:01not become effective until a majority of

0:12:03voters voting on the ordinance voted in

0:12:06favor of it if a majority of the voters

0:12:08do not vote in favor of it the ordinance

0:12:10would not go into effect and cannot be

0:12:12enacted again by the legislative body

0:12:15for a period of one year from the date

0:12:16of disapproval by the voters

0:12:19if you estimate the latest possible date

0:12:21of november 3rd 2020 should the

0:12:24ordinance fail on the ballot this would

0:12:26prohibit a similar ordinance from being

0:12:28adopted by the council prior to december

0:12:30of 2021

0:12:32so that is the background as to where we

0:12:34are tonight

0:12:36staff recommends that the city council

0:12:38proceed with the option of repealing the

0:12:40ordinance and further recommends taking

0:12:43action to assign the issue of just cause

0:12:44for eviction policies to the newly

0:12:46created tenant protections task force

0:12:49because the task force will consist of

0:12:51tenants and landlords this will provide

0:12:54an opportunity for the council

0:12:55and the community to take a step back

0:12:58study these issues further and try to

0:13:00achieve some consensus on this and other

0:13:03tenant protection matters

0:13:05the task force would allow for a

0:13:06dialogue between tenants and landlords

0:13:08for the different perspectives to be

0:13:10heard

0:13:11assigning the just cause policies gives

0:13:13the city a chance to pause review what

0:13:16has transpired and have both sides hear

0:13:18each other out in a more collaborative

0:13:20way

0:13:21of course there are no guarantees for

0:13:23what the outcome might be

0:13:24but this does provide a unique ability

0:13:26for the city to make a real effort to

0:13:29reach common ground on policies that

0:13:31work best for el cerrito before going

0:13:34through a referendum process

0:13:38if the council decides to repeal the

0:13:39ordinance you must do so by enacting

0:13:41another ordinance to repeal ordinance

0:13:442019-04 in its entirety

0:13:47to do that

0:13:48the council could move to introduce by

0:13:50title and waive the first reading of the

0:13:52repeal ordinance tonight

0:13:54if the muslim passes then staff would

0:13:56return at the next regular city council

0:13:58meeting on august 20th 2019 to request

0:14:01waiving the second reading and recommend

0:14:03adoption of the ordinance

0:14:05if adopted the just cause for eviction

0:14:07ordinance would be repealed 30 days

0:14:09after the adoption of the repeal

0:14:11ordinance

0:14:12that would be effective september 19

0:14:142019. and the just cause ordinance would

0:14:17remain suspended until then

0:14:20if the city council decides to give the

0:14:22just cause for eviction policy to the

0:14:24tenant protection task force to discuss

0:14:26staff also recommends a revision to the

0:14:28resolution that was adopted on may 21st

0:14:31that created the task force in order to

0:14:33formalize this task

0:14:35staff has drafted a resolution for your

0:14:37consideration which would add just cause

0:14:40eviction to the duties and

0:14:41responsibilities of the task force and

0:14:43extend the duration of the task force

0:14:45from 6 months to 12 months within which

0:14:47to reach their to complete their charge

0:14:50so that concludes my staff report and at

0:14:52this time uh the city clerk city

0:14:55attorney our housing analyst isa shuri

0:14:57we're all available for any questions

0:14:59you may have and at this point we are

0:15:01seeking direction from the city council

0:15:03thank you

0:15:06do we have any questions from

0:15:08the council

0:15:14sure i'll ask my questions

0:15:16um

0:15:18during the presentation from the city

0:15:20manager

0:15:21the term substantially the same was used

0:15:24i was hoping that somebody could help me

0:15:26understand what substantially the same

0:15:28is and

0:15:29how

0:15:30[Music]

0:15:33how that relates to other

0:15:37charges we've given the task force and

0:15:40and what the task force the task force

0:15:42came back with

0:15:43recommendation for

0:15:45ordinances how that would dovetail with

0:15:48substantially the same so i'm trying to

0:15:50understand that the definition is

0:15:52substantially the same

0:15:53sure um there's a substantial body of

0:15:56case law dealing with the the term

0:15:58substantially the same in the context of

0:16:00a referendum ordinance

0:16:02um

0:16:03i think for the purposes of um

0:16:07i will just say that um it would have to

0:16:10be an ordinance that covered the same

0:16:12topic

0:16:13um in in substantially the same way

0:16:17just cosmetic changes

0:16:20or minor additions or subtractions would

0:16:23would probably be treated as

0:16:24substantially the same

0:16:26um

0:16:27that it is not prohibited to adopt an

0:16:30ordinance on the same topic but it can't

0:16:32be essentially the same set of

0:16:34regulations that were previously adopted

0:16:37but i want to be clear to your other

0:16:39question that that the it is only the

0:16:41just cause for eviction ordinance that's

0:16:43the subject of the referendum other

0:16:46renter protection ordinances are not

0:16:47affected by

0:16:49that one year prohibition on on enacting

0:16:51a new ordinance

0:16:53so if i

0:16:54follow your presentation the the answer

0:16:57to my first question

0:16:59if we were to repeal and

0:17:02essentially gave the charge to the task

0:17:04force to

0:17:06consider just cause for eviction

0:17:08and they were to come back with a

0:17:09substantially different

0:17:11uh just cause for eviction plus other

0:17:14renter protections

0:17:15it would not be

0:17:17subject to

0:17:19the

0:17:20substantially the same

0:17:24criteria

0:17:25the recommendations that they made about

0:17:27topics other than just cause for

0:17:29eviction could move forward unaffected

0:17:32if they move forward a recommendation

0:17:34that was i'll just use generally the

0:17:36topic of just cause for eviction we'd

0:17:38probably need to do an evaluation of

0:17:40whether or not

0:17:42the regulations that were being proposed

0:17:44were

0:17:45so closely um

0:17:48were

0:17:49were

0:17:50so close to what was in the ordinance

0:17:52the council adopted that it would be

0:17:54precluded but we'd have to do a sort of

0:17:57page by page determination at the time

0:17:59because it's a very fact-based analysis

0:18:02and and

0:18:03under that scenario where

0:18:06other rented protections come back and

0:18:09and just cause for eviction is something

0:18:11that's in the recommendation from the

0:18:13task force and we did the page by page

0:18:16the

0:18:17the effective date of that new

0:18:21legislation

0:18:22would

0:18:24range some of it if it was based on

0:18:26displacement on on the um

0:18:30displacement you know ordinance if that

0:18:33potentially could go into effect in

0:18:34april or may and

0:18:36the

0:18:37um just cause for eviction over whatever

0:18:40overlapped and was too too close

0:18:42would have to wait until if i read the

0:18:45report correctly

0:18:46um august 20th of 2020.

0:18:50that's correct okay

0:18:53with an effective date

0:18:5520 30 days later or 20 days later

0:18:57whatever our next reading would be

0:18:58exactly right um

0:19:00so

0:19:01that's correct

0:19:03um okay

0:19:06and

0:19:08if we do not repeal tonight

0:19:11um the current ordinance

0:19:14would not take effect until 10 days

0:19:16effectively 10 days after a vote

0:19:18is what or certification of a vote is

0:19:20what i heard

0:19:22the presentation

0:19:24um and so that would be

0:19:26there's there's five different election

0:19:28dates in our our package so that would

0:19:31be potentially

0:19:32some

0:19:33you know council meeting that certified

0:19:35the votes and then ten days later so

0:19:37probably the latest date would be

0:19:39sometime in december 2020. if if we held

0:19:43it all the way over to the november 2020

0:19:45election if we if we went with the march

0:19:47date it would be sometime in april

0:19:49correct

0:19:50so

0:19:52um

0:19:54okay

0:19:55and

0:19:58see if this one got answered

0:20:06thank you

0:20:06that's that's all my questions

0:20:09can you repeat the part about um

0:20:12if we were to take it to a vote

0:20:16um

0:20:17the 88 days versus

0:20:20versus what

0:20:21can you repeat the part about 88 days

0:20:24so if um an election is called and holly

0:20:27jump in if this if i get this wrong um

0:20:29if the election is called then the

0:20:31election must be held not less than 88

0:20:34days from the date the election is

0:20:36called so if you called it

0:20:39um tonight it would have to be

0:20:41not less than 88 days later

0:20:43for example okay

0:20:45but and then the latest would be uh

0:20:49the latest would be the next general

0:20:50election election 2020 november correct

0:20:56okay

0:20:57go ahead paul thank you

0:20:59and that date

0:21:01would be later than the

0:21:03other election

0:21:05date that we've called for on our

0:21:09pool and parks measure

0:21:11of this year

0:21:12the the last day that you could call a

0:21:15measure to the ballot for the november

0:21:172019 election that has already been

0:21:19called is august 9th that is the 88th

0:21:21day prior to that election date

0:21:28for some reason i thought we we can't

0:21:29have it on the same date that we're

0:21:31having our other measure

0:21:33you would have to

0:21:34you would have to call that election

0:21:36before august 9th of which is next week

0:21:39okay it is a possibility it is legally i

0:21:41was going to say because that wasn't an

0:21:42option yes it is legally a possibility

0:21:44steph would not recommend that yeah i

0:21:46don't want that

0:21:48um

0:21:49can you talk a little bit about the cost

0:21:51estimates that you have here based on

0:21:53the range of costs

0:21:55um and not not too specifically but

0:21:58is there a general rule about that 48

0:22:01000 to 82 000

0:22:03so the estimates that we were provided

0:22:05by the county are based on this the

0:22:08different dates that are available

0:22:10the

0:22:11the more

0:22:12measures the more things that are on the

0:22:14ballot the cheaper the cost is for all

0:22:17the entities that have something on that

0:22:19ballot so

0:22:20for the march or the november general

0:22:23election those costs are substantially

0:22:25lower because the cost is spread out

0:22:27among multiple jurisdictions if there's

0:22:29a special election and we are the only

0:22:32measure on the ballot then we would be

0:22:35bearing the majority of that cost

0:22:38so that's the and the range is based on

0:22:40what the county provided us which could

0:22:42be anywhere for

0:22:44the higher dates are five to seven

0:22:45dollars per registered voter and it goes

0:22:47down to

0:22:49125 to 175 per registered voter for the

0:22:52november

0:22:53general election in 2020 and the

0:22:55estimates are based off of our current

0:22:57registered voters as of june which is

0:22:59the last update we got from them

0:23:02for example the may fifth date of 2020

0:23:05we would have to call that special

0:23:06election correct is that correct for

0:23:08that date correct correct anything other

0:23:10than the established election dates of

0:23:12march in november would be considered a

0:23:14special election

0:23:16okay

0:23:17and last question is on the task force

0:23:20that we have and that we're moving

0:23:21forward on

0:23:23should we send this issue to the task

0:23:25force for consideration

0:23:27and they came back to us i know greg

0:23:29mentioned some of the this issue

0:23:33would it take

0:23:34if it was somewhat similar

0:23:37it would take

0:23:38a year before we could

0:23:40re-initiate that is that correct

0:23:44yeah i mean i

0:23:46the

0:23:48um

0:23:50try to think of another way to answer

0:23:52another way to sort of expand the

0:23:55discussion on this but the basic rule is

0:23:57the the phrase that the courts have used

0:23:59regularly is substantially similar um

0:24:02we can't really it's as i mentioned

0:24:04earlier it's it's basically impossible

0:24:06to know in advance of having two pieces

0:24:08of legislation next to each other

0:24:10whether or not that test is met

0:24:12um

0:24:13but

0:24:14if the task force made a recommendation

0:24:17on a just cause ordinance we'd need to

0:24:19evaluate it and potentially it could go

0:24:21into effect earlier but otherwise it

0:24:23would have to wait the one year

0:24:25and and differences of what could be

0:24:28recommended could be something as simple

0:24:30as what's exempted or not exempted

0:24:33would that make it a different

0:24:37i don't want to i don't i don't want to

0:24:39speculate that's an important

0:24:41question though well one of the things

0:24:43though that sky also pointed out that i

0:24:44think is is something you could also

0:24:46consider is that it it's the effective

0:24:49date of the ordinance

0:24:51that means that you could discuss it you

0:24:53could even you know perhaps even

0:24:55consider it it just wouldn't go into

0:24:57effect until one year later

0:25:00so you could continue to discuss this

0:25:02topic

0:25:04the task force could bring you a

0:25:05recommended ordinance for example that

0:25:07you could consider but it wouldn't be

0:25:09effective until we could support

0:25:12something it just wouldn't go into

0:25:13effect yeah that that is correct and i

0:25:15guess what i'd say is it is an important

0:25:17question um but i also don't want to

0:25:20attempt to lead the task force by saying

0:25:22well these things you could you could do

0:25:24that would that would result in it being

0:25:26able to go into effect earlier once the

0:25:28tech i mean if it's if it turns out that

0:25:30there is like for for example um some

0:25:34immediate consensus on some

0:25:35recommendations they could identify them

0:25:38in principle and i could do an

0:25:39evaluation of them at that time and

0:25:42and then if it turned out that i felt

0:25:44strongly that

0:25:45um that they could move forward more

0:25:47quickly then we could we could handle it

0:25:49that way wouldn't have to wait to

0:25:50actually have it drafted but if they had

0:25:53were able to identify and reach a

0:25:55consensus on some

0:25:56on some principles of adjust cause

0:25:58organs we could use that as the basis

0:25:59for evaluation thank you

0:26:06any further questions

0:26:09[Music]

0:26:10all right

0:26:11um

0:26:12do we have any speakers on this item yes

0:26:15we uh we have

0:26:17about

0:26:1810 to 12 speakers at this time

0:26:21okay we can go ahead

0:26:22go forward with them okay okay so the

0:26:24first three speakers tonight are susan

0:26:26pricko followed by peter pan and jeffrey

0:26:29bloomfield

0:26:37good evening my name is susan prico i'm

0:26:39currently president of contra costa

0:26:40taxpayers association and an el cerrito

0:26:43homeowner

0:26:44i encourage you to follow staff

0:26:46recommendations and repeal the just

0:26:48cause eviction ordinance

0:26:50el cerrito has assets of about 172

0:26:53million and liabilities of about 113

0:26:56million

0:26:57and tax-paying residents are counting on

0:26:59your current budget

0:27:01they should be concerned especially

0:27:02given the unfunded calpers pension

0:27:04liability of over 61 million dollars and

0:27:08increasing by over 80 percent by 2024

0:27:11plus two other unfunded pension or two

0:27:14other pensions that are in the el

0:27:15cerrito trust

0:27:18over seven million dollars is going to

0:27:20be due this year i believe round figures

0:27:23spending over a hundred thousand dollars

0:27:24on an election which is unbudgeted

0:27:27is just part of the expense adding

0:27:29informational mailers and other things

0:27:31which

0:27:32run over ran over sixty thousand dollars

0:27:35for measure v

0:27:36it's money you don't need to spend

0:27:38el cerrito needs to pay its debts and

0:27:40maintain its services as you have

0:27:42promised in measure v

0:27:44and not take on more expense

0:27:46please follow your staff's

0:27:47recommendation and repeal the just cause

0:27:50ordinance

0:27:52the next speaker is peter pan followed

0:27:54by jeffrey bloomfield

0:27:59my name is peter j penn i'm also the

0:28:02resident

0:28:03i also

0:28:05support the staff's recommendation to

0:28:08repeal the

0:28:09ordinance

0:28:11for the reason

0:28:12as my previous

0:28:14speakers has mentioned

0:28:16elsa rito

0:28:18has a lot of unfunded live

0:28:21liabilities

0:28:23at the amount of almost 66 million as i

0:28:27was told

0:28:28also we are trying to get more money for

0:28:31our parts

0:28:32we are short about 600 thousand dollars

0:28:35for the pools and everything

0:28:37and we don't really can really afford to

0:28:41spend all this money on this just cause

0:28:44eviction again

0:28:45um

0:28:46because it will cost

0:28:48somehow in the neighborhood of over 100

0:28:50thousand dollars

0:28:52you know

0:28:53and

0:28:55from another

0:28:57we can also look at what's happening in

0:28:59the state

0:29:01currently there's a bill called abu 1482

0:29:06being considered it's already passed the

0:29:08state

0:29:08assembly is now in the state senate he

0:29:11already passed state senate and juris

0:29:14jurisdiction committee and now is in the

0:29:17hand of

0:29:18appropriation committee

0:29:20this ab-1482

0:29:24combines rain control

0:29:26and just cause eviction they're going to

0:29:28do it on the state level so i think we

0:29:31should just wait

0:29:32to see what happened in the state level

0:29:35if they pass

0:29:37you know we don't need even to do this

0:29:40and so we don't really

0:29:43want to spend all this money to do a

0:29:45referendum

0:29:46thank you

0:29:55democracy is priceless

0:29:57what's your name

0:29:59and it's worth the cost what concerns me

0:30:02or the manner in which the petition was

0:30:05circulated

0:30:08i saw

0:30:10people in bernie t-shirts

0:30:13telling people who were signed

0:30:15to sign the petition that these were

0:30:18that the petition was about rental

0:30:19protections

0:30:23and rent control and it was not

0:30:26i had a petitioner come to my

0:30:29residence door

0:30:32and tell me that this was an anti-crime

0:30:34measure

0:30:35there were many stories that were going

0:30:38around town

0:30:39that makes me doubt the veracity and the

0:30:42validity of the petition

0:30:45yes the signatures are valid

0:30:48but the circumstances under which it was

0:30:51circulated

0:30:52certainly are misleading

0:30:57so if the caa or whoever this petitions

0:31:00sponsors are

0:31:04i don't want this council to buckle

0:31:06under the pre under the pressure

0:31:08of an organization i want to see

0:31:10democracy work in this town democracy is

0:31:13in trouble in this country

0:31:15i don't want to see it be in trouble

0:31:18in el cerrito so i urge this council to

0:31:22put the measure on the ballot and let

0:31:24the voters decide

0:31:27i certainly will be watching to see how

0:31:30council members

0:31:32receive this measure thank you sir your

0:31:35name and your residence yes bloomfield

0:31:38[address removed] el cerrito

0:31:44the next speaker is george wu followed

0:31:46by howdy gowdy

0:31:52good evening mayor and early members of

0:31:55the city council my name is george wu

0:32:00i support the repair of the just cause

0:32:03eviction ordinance and i respectfully

0:32:06ask you ask for your vote to resign the

0:32:10holiness

0:32:11thank you for your time

0:32:15the next speaker is howdy gaudi followed

0:32:16by robin mitchell

0:32:20good evening mayor and council members

0:32:22my name is howdy gowdy and i live in el

0:32:24cerrito

0:32:26i urge you to place the recently adopted

0:32:29just cause um ordinance on the march

0:32:322020 ballot rather than repeal it

0:32:36and this is important for the integrity

0:32:38of our democratic process

0:32:40and that we don't just have

0:32:42a minority rule you know pay to play

0:32:45system

0:32:46every signator of that petition

0:32:50was expecting this to go to a vote of

0:32:53the wider public it wasn't presented as

0:32:57if we get 10

0:32:58of voters to sign this city council will

0:33:00buckle and take it off consideration i

0:33:03don't think anyone really wants to see

0:33:05our laws or governments decided by such

0:33:07a small

0:33:09majority i mean a non-majority a tiny

0:33:12fraction of the voting population so

0:33:16you know it's really the petitioners

0:33:18that are asking you to spend the money

0:33:20on

0:33:21on this election they petitioned for a

0:33:24referendum and you should deliver a

0:33:26referendum that's that's what they asked

0:33:27for but as was mentioned the tactics

0:33:30were so misleading and

0:33:32unethical

0:33:34that they clearly don't believe that

0:33:36they could have succeeded gathering

0:33:38signatures on the merits of what they

0:33:40wanted to do and that's an

0:33:42understandable thing because in el

0:33:43cerrito i think there's actually very

0:33:46strong support for a modest

0:33:48you know tenant protection like this el

0:33:50cerrito you know

0:33:53easily passed the prop 10

0:33:56um

0:33:57measure that would have repealed costa

0:33:59hawkins within our

0:34:01um

0:34:02voting populace so you know i think they

0:34:04just are

0:34:06you know using

0:34:08unethical uh tactics uh to stop

0:34:11something that the people don't want and

0:34:14it's up to you to send it to the people

0:34:16for them to have their voice that's how

0:34:18democracy works and that's how this

0:34:20process is supposed to work

0:34:23and i understand we have a tenant

0:34:27task force

0:34:28starting up but a majority of you

0:34:31decided that this just cause was a good

0:34:33measure to have in place before that got

0:34:36started and i think having a vote on it

0:34:39during that process is actually an

0:34:41informative bellwether for what the

0:34:44constituents of this town want you know

0:34:47it will actually help the task force

0:34:49decide

0:34:50where the town is willing to go and i

0:34:52think

0:34:53this this is bigger than an eight-person

0:34:56task force at this point we need the

0:34:58whole town to be weighing in on this and

0:35:00i'll be the first to say this isn't the

0:35:03end you know the this is a limited just

0:35:06cause we need a much more comprehensive

0:35:08approach to

0:35:10our um tenant protections but we need to

0:35:13start allowing the people to speak on

0:35:15this instead of just having this very

0:35:18you know

0:35:20over

0:35:22overly

0:35:23biased

0:35:24discussion based on people with

0:35:27outside business

0:35:28interests coming into our city thank you

0:35:31thank you

0:35:32the next speaker is robin mitchell

0:35:33followed by jane

0:35:39so my name is robin mitchell i'm an el

0:35:41cerrito resident um i know that my

0:35:44comments won't make a difference in the

0:35:46decision that you will make tonight

0:35:49my comments won't make a difference

0:35:50because i have no power

0:35:52money is what has power

0:35:55and that money corrupted the democratic

0:35:57process in this case

0:35:59the people with power and money

0:36:02ran a misleading referendum campaign in

0:36:04order to get the signatures needed to

0:36:06put this referendum on the ballot

0:36:09i didn't see it firsthand but her

0:36:10numerous reports as has already been

0:36:12said

0:36:13the signature gatherers were lying about

0:36:16what was being signed in order to get

0:36:18enough signatures

0:36:20so once again people with power and

0:36:23money

0:36:24win over people without power and money

0:36:27even though i would have hoped that one

0:36:28of the

0:36:30roles of government is to try to protect

0:36:32citizens

0:36:33that don't have power and money

0:36:36so i urge you to put this referendum on

0:36:39the ballot and as how he said let the

0:36:41people decide

0:36:43the next speaker is jane followed by

0:36:46akio

0:36:47yokyo

0:36:54hi um

0:36:56i've been a resident here in

0:36:58here in el cerrito for

0:37:0046 years or so

0:37:02um

0:37:03i was really worried when past the just

0:37:06cause i went through so quickly

0:37:08and i had read about two

0:37:11articles in the apartment owners

0:37:12association

0:37:14where

0:37:14san francisco

0:37:16was sued for their a just cause

0:37:20eviction process that they had

0:37:22and the

0:37:23the

0:37:24city ended up having to pay for

0:37:27whatever the owner had to pay for uh

0:37:30before that

0:37:31and then

0:37:32another one happened in alameda

0:37:34where um a couple owned a house in

0:37:37alameda

0:37:38moved to the east coast so the wife

0:37:39could get her doctorate when they came

0:37:41back in the interim they had

0:37:44passed rent control and then after that

0:37:46they

0:37:47were not able to get into their house

0:37:48until they had to pay for the tenant to

0:37:51leave and both of these cases were found

0:37:54to be illegal so i wanted i i would i'm

0:37:57so happy that you're you're recommending

0:38:00the rescission of this

0:38:02until we can find out more what's going

0:38:04on with all these new lawsuits that are

0:38:06coming out

0:38:07uh so i applaud that and i hope that

0:38:10goes that way um also about the task

0:38:13force that i'm learning about um

0:38:18i think there has to be something put in

0:38:19place the task force needs to have

0:38:23follow the law

0:38:24and so there needs to be somewhere that

0:38:26they can

0:38:27all these things have to be cleared so

0:38:29that we're not liable as a city

0:38:31to pay for these things and i i really

0:38:34um

0:38:35would like

0:38:36to just caution that we move forward

0:38:39slowly and carefully and

0:38:43i think take into consideration all the

0:38:45just cause things that are happening out

0:38:46there before we jump in and spend all of

0:38:49our time and money on that

0:38:51thank you

0:38:53the next speaker is akio yokyo followed

0:38:56by wendy louie

0:39:12hello my name is akio yokoi and living

0:39:15here in lc for more than 30 years

0:39:18and

0:39:20i

0:39:22don't

0:39:25i try to

0:39:26be a good

0:39:28landlord so that i can try to have a

0:39:31good relationship with tenants

0:39:33and

0:39:34so you know and so but i don't like i

0:39:36don't support just

0:39:38cause eviction but repeal

0:39:43of course ex

0:39:46eviction

0:39:47ordinance

0:39:48thank you

0:39:50thank you

0:39:51the next speaker is when you're really

0:39:53followed by david gong

0:39:56my name is wendy louis

0:39:58i'm respectfully

0:40:01urged the council to repeal

0:40:03the just cause eviction ordinance

0:40:07and also

0:40:08a home owners here

0:40:12we normally don't want to raise the rent

0:40:15and to our attendance because every time

0:40:17the attendant move out

0:40:19it costs us a lot of money to

0:40:23interview to clean up the places and all

0:40:26that so it's also as a

0:40:30landlord

0:40:31um

0:40:32having a tenant move out

0:40:34it's not a cheap

0:40:36event either

0:40:38and in el sweden or family in here for

0:40:4230 years so as properties we have now

0:40:46raised the rent

0:40:48for

0:40:49average about 10 years and we only have

0:40:52three times turnover with our tenants

0:40:56so please consider that thank you

0:41:00the next speaker is david gong followed

0:41:02by jeffrey wright

0:41:08good evening everybody

0:41:10my name is david

0:41:12can you speak into the microphone please

0:41:16um

0:41:16well

0:41:17you know the i'm asking the council to

0:41:21drop them

0:41:22that cost

0:41:23that cost division

0:41:25you know that i have like women you know

0:41:28one time one of the tenants doesn't pay

0:41:30me that went for three months

0:41:32then we try to get them to the court

0:41:35but he got some lawyer for free

0:41:39then one time we go to the court

0:41:41then like look i mean the lawyer i mean

0:41:43no the lawyer

0:41:45hey please settle because you know then

0:41:48we pay four thousand

0:41:50to the tenant you know they get my way i

0:41:52don't think that's fair to me

0:41:54that's why i'm here i'm asking you guys

0:41:57to drop you know that just cause

0:42:00division thank you

0:42:02thank you the next speaker is jeffrey

0:42:04wright followed by franklin leong

0:42:09jeff wright local resident property

0:42:11owner

0:42:13taxpayer concerned

0:42:15citizen i'm speaking in total support

0:42:18repeal of the just cause ordinance with

0:42:21no further action taken on it as you all

0:42:24are well aware

0:42:25we now have the rental registry at a

0:42:27cost of 44 dollars per unit uh whereby

0:42:30information will be collected one of my

0:42:32great criticisms of the action taken by

0:42:34the council in advance was the fact that

0:42:36there were no facts so gather the facts

0:42:38before you take any further action i

0:42:40also want to remind this council that in

0:42:42november 2018 the citizens of el cerrito

0:42:45passed measure v which would generate

0:42:472.7 million dollars

0:42:49on a transfer tax cost of 12 dollars per

0:42:51thousand i just closed the transaction

0:42:53for a resident of el cerrito 91 years

0:42:56old home she lived in for sixty years

0:42:58closed that transaction it cost her

0:43:00eight thousand four hundred dollars

0:43:01money that came into the city of el

0:43:02cerrito coffers why is this of concern

0:43:05to me well the city council just

0:43:07approved spending about a hundred and

0:43:09fifty thousand dollars to move forward

0:43:11with measure a for parks and recreation

0:43:14uh 35 to 40 000 for polling and up to

0:43:17114 000 for the special election well if

0:43:20you think about that you have agreed to

0:43:22spend 150 000 to generate 650 000

0:43:26now if you were running your own

0:43:28households would you have done that this

0:43:30is taxpayer money rhetorical question no

0:43:32you wouldn't because that's like paying

0:43:3423 points

0:43:35in order to secure the 650 000 financing

0:43:39point i want to make with this is simply

0:43:41this

0:43:42i don't want this council expending

0:43:44money for another special election at

0:43:46the taxpayers expense

0:43:49it's not necessary

0:43:51spending money for a matter that's a

0:43:54non-matter gather the data see where we

0:43:57are and then make an intelligent

0:43:59decision based on the facts of what you

0:44:02don't have at this point thank you

0:44:05the final speaker at this time is

0:44:06franklin leong

0:44:14mayor okimoto congress council members

0:44:21i have a attendant now

0:44:23that did not pay the july

0:44:26rent and this is his last uh

0:44:29last month of tennessee

0:44:31my attorney advised me to

0:44:34give him a three-day notice and

0:44:36to pay or quit

0:44:39he told me i'm not going to pay you and

0:44:42i'm not going to quit

0:44:44you got my security deposit i told him

0:44:47rent and security deposit two different

0:44:49things

0:44:51then this i said it's unlawful and we

0:44:53might have to go to court

0:44:56then he said

0:44:57i will hurt you before we go to the

0:44:59court

0:45:01ordinance

0:45:022019-4 prohibition

0:45:05of harassment of tenants

0:45:08which ordinance is prohibition on

0:45:10harassment the property owner

0:45:15that concludes the speakers on this item

0:45:18all right thank you um mayor i apologize

0:45:20i just got one more speaker all right

0:45:22last one

0:45:24the last speaker is eva

0:45:27good evening all right last two

0:45:29going once going twice

0:45:31done

0:45:32good evening mayor and council member

0:45:34thank you for being here

0:45:36i am a

0:45:38very responsible uh housing provider in

0:45:41el cerrito i've been very good to all my

0:45:44tenants

0:45:45and

0:45:46i believe in repeal of just cost

0:45:48eviction because by doing so you will

0:45:51restrict more

0:45:52supplies and housing stock and we've

0:45:55seen that in san francisco berkeley you

0:45:58go to the census data of 2015 you'll

0:46:01find that

0:46:03there's about 40 000 units 30 30

0:46:0630 some thousand units close to 40 000

0:46:09units that are

0:46:10vacant because people are afraid that

0:46:13once they've rented and

0:46:16if they meet you know people who are

0:46:18abusive and we all have we all know at

0:46:21least two or three people

0:46:23who have experienced the

0:46:26tenants abusing the law which is

0:46:28unfortunate and it makes these people

0:46:30remove their housing stock entirely

0:46:33forever

0:46:34so thank you for

0:46:36listening to the voices of the local

0:46:40residents because this is very important

0:46:43i'm sorry your name and residence please

0:46:46eva stockton avenue at

0:46:49avas

0:46:50thank you

0:46:51the next speaker is mina young followed

0:46:54by anna xu

0:47:01i'm a

0:47:02responsibility housing provider

0:47:05i support

0:47:06repaired

0:47:08ace

0:47:12the next speaker is annex zoo followed

0:47:14by

0:47:15yomi song

0:47:32so i have a issue

0:47:35with my attorneys also

0:47:53it's not because our elect uh our city

0:47:56law is about the

0:47:58state

0:47:59on a state law because the law is

0:48:01already tilted to the attendant already

0:48:04and uh this is the one on my true

0:48:07situation the second one is i have two

0:48:09young children i live in australia but i

0:48:12must send my my children to another city

0:48:14i am essentially

0:48:16spending much money to the election why

0:48:18we we use the money to support our uh

0:48:21our our city's education system school

0:48:24system to letting

0:48:26become better

0:48:28yeah

0:48:28thank you very much

0:48:31the last speaker card is anna xu

0:48:39my name is meina yang i was called

0:48:41earlier

0:48:45just want to

0:48:47go with the

0:48:48repeal of the jc of the just cause

0:48:51eviction just cause eviction is just

0:48:53another name for

0:48:55outlawing regular term limits and making

0:48:58everything as

0:49:00so-called eviction when it was normally

0:49:03people turn over

0:49:05so in a way it's forcing the landlords

0:49:08to go through processes that they didn't

0:49:10have to based on the term limits of the

0:49:13leases and everyone had the

0:49:17used to have trust of the

0:49:19the lease terms and now they don't know

0:49:21they can't ex there's nothing is

0:49:24uncertain

0:49:25and

0:49:26the lease terms are no longer

0:49:28enforceable and so

0:49:32landlords or housing providers will be

0:49:34less likely to offer housing

0:49:37and just like what san francisco and

0:49:39oakland and berkeley have they a lot of

0:49:41housing available are not being

0:49:45offered because landlords

0:49:47have

0:49:48doubts about

0:49:51having control of their

0:49:54properties so please repeal the just

0:49:57cause eviction and keep el cevito

0:50:00with maximized housing possible thank

0:50:03you

0:50:06that concludes the speaker cards that i

0:50:08have received okay

0:50:10i have another question um

0:50:15so in order to put

0:50:18just cause on the just cause for

0:50:19eviction on

0:50:21the ballot

0:50:23or the city to decide it has to be 88

0:50:27days prior to

0:50:29the next election

0:50:31it needs to be 88 days after you call

0:50:34the election

0:50:36so the date that you call the election

0:50:38you can it has to be 88 days from that

0:50:41that day okay

0:50:43so

0:50:43if we were if we have a year then

0:50:48in which we

0:50:50can't do just cause again

0:50:52that would be

0:50:55less than 88 days from the general

0:50:57election

0:51:04if you're looking can you explain what

0:51:05you're

0:51:06like a year from now if you were look if

0:51:08you used sort of this year as a guide

0:51:11you would need to if you wanted to put

0:51:12something on the november election next

0:51:14year it would need to be probably the

0:51:16first week of august august 7th

0:51:19august 7th right so therefore yes

0:51:22right so but we if if we repeal

0:51:26just cause for eviction we can't do

0:51:28anything with just cause for eviction

0:51:30including putting it on the ballot while

0:51:33it's repealed

0:51:36um well if you if you repeal it if you

0:51:40if you let me put it this way if you

0:51:41begin the process for repeal tonight

0:51:44um you know earnings would be adopted in

0:51:45august would go into effect in september

0:51:48mm-hmm

0:51:48um if you

0:51:51wanted to

0:51:52um put an ordinance on the ballot for

0:51:56the voters to consider

0:51:58um if you wanted to do it in november

0:52:002020 i don't believe that the one year

0:52:03would prevent you from doing that

0:52:10but if you wanted to do it sooner it's a

0:52:12question that i would actually need to

0:52:13research because i'm not sure that there

0:52:14is

0:52:15there's case law about that right

0:52:17because i'm just thinking if it's

0:52:19repealed

0:52:21i mean at any point we could just bring

0:52:23it back up again and say

0:52:25we want to put this on we want to do a

0:52:27special election like next june

0:52:30that idea that i would need to i would

0:52:32need to research that

0:52:34okay thank you

0:52:36very much yeah

0:52:38yeah i've got a couple questions um

0:52:40thank you for all the housing providers

0:52:42who spoke today if all the housing

0:52:44providers if you guys could just raise

0:52:45your hand real quick for me

0:52:48great thank you that's good to see that

0:52:50you're all there

0:52:52thank you thank you thank you thank you

0:52:54how many of you have you buildings with

0:52:57five units or more

0:53:00good thank you

0:53:01um

0:53:03and then i've got a couple questions for

0:53:04the

0:53:05the city council i mean sorry for the

0:53:08councilor

0:53:09woodruff

0:53:10if there's a vote

0:53:13on this

0:53:15whether it's

0:53:16march

0:53:17june whatever

0:53:21that vote

0:53:22is to

0:53:23do does what does it lock the ordinance

0:53:26in place well future councils be able to

0:53:28modify the ordinance or will it only be

0:53:31modified through future elections

0:53:34um

0:53:35you mean the ordinance that's at issue

0:53:37tonight correct um if it's

0:53:39if it is um adopted if so if it goes to

0:53:43a referendum vote and the voters allow

0:53:45it to go into effect um the city council

0:53:48would be able to amend it in the future

0:53:51it's it's still a a council adopted

0:53:53ordinance it's unlike an initiative

0:53:55ordinance um where

0:53:58the ordinance

0:54:00can only be amended by

0:54:02the voters

0:54:04and then there was a public speaker that

0:54:05talked about the liability of the city

0:54:08associated with just cause for eviction

0:54:10can you are you

0:54:12able to speak to that i think we covered

0:54:13that in prior

0:54:15considerations of the just cause for

0:54:17eviction but i wanted to just sort of

0:54:18maybe recap that if you could

0:54:20um i mean if if there if somebody

0:54:23believed that a provision of the just

0:54:24cause for eviction ordinance was

0:54:26unlawful they would be able to sue the

0:54:28city and we would have to defend that

0:54:30case uh i don't know that i think that

0:54:32there is any monetary there's any

0:54:35significant risk of monetary damages to

0:54:37the city of that but the city would

0:54:38incur the cost of the legal defense

0:54:41great thank you

0:54:48all right if that concludes the

0:54:50discussion and questions from the

0:54:51council

0:54:54or do you have more discussion

0:54:56i can start discussion at this point

0:54:59for those of you that know bill jones i

0:55:00always envied him because he would come

0:55:02with prepared remarks he would have

0:55:05large font

0:55:07pages that he would read from and

0:55:11he was eloquent as a result

0:55:14my challenge is that

0:55:17i have a desire to hear the the

0:55:18arguments and the and the public

0:55:20speakers and and get input and

0:55:22and it does leave me a little

0:55:24uh

0:55:26at loss for words at times so

0:55:29if

0:55:30and you guys have seen that on this

0:55:31particular topic you've seen me

0:55:33maybe ramble

0:55:35on this topic

0:55:38i'm

0:55:40for many reasons

0:55:42i'm inclined to

0:55:44[Music]

0:55:45to

0:55:46repeal to to reverse my prior vote on

0:55:50just cause for eviction i wasn't

0:55:52enthusiastic about just cause for

0:55:54eviction

0:55:55um for those that recall my uh proposal

0:55:59and i certainly know that there might be

0:56:00some members of the

0:56:02of the task force here my proposal is to

0:56:05focus on displacement

0:56:07and just cause for eviction is a tool

0:56:09but it doesn't necessarily focus on

0:56:12displacement as satisfactory or as

0:56:14thoroughly as as that i would like

0:56:16however there was will here at the

0:56:18council to move it forward so i

0:56:21measured that will and and tried to move

0:56:24it forward

0:56:26to those of you that are here and thank

0:56:27you for those that did raise their hands

0:56:29with there were about seven of you that

0:56:31are property owners that own five units

0:56:33or more there's only 105 properties in

0:56:36el cerrito that are five units or more

0:56:39so as part of our process of trying to

0:56:42get consensus here at the diocese

0:56:44i scaled back the number of units that

0:56:47were going to be affected and the number

0:56:49of properties that were going to be

0:56:50affected but that correspondingly

0:56:52reduced the number of tenants

0:56:54that were going to

0:56:56be protected

0:56:58so

0:56:59that's part of my rationale for why i'm

0:57:02able to reverse my my vote because

0:57:04frankly

0:57:06it's not as far as i intended to go it's

0:57:08not actually even the tool i attended

0:57:10but it was something that i thought was

0:57:12a compromise that would not um

0:57:15stand the the challenge that it has so

0:57:19uh

0:57:20for me i

0:57:22it's very this is very hard for those

0:57:24that have followed me for 11 years i

0:57:26don't

0:57:27know that i've ever

0:57:28changed my vote

0:57:30so

0:57:31this is

0:57:33i've been a lot of thinking about this

0:57:35and i

0:57:36am in that position tonight

0:57:39to support the repeal

0:57:42of this ordinance so that potentially we

0:57:44give the task force an opportunity to to

0:57:46come back with something that's even

0:57:47better

0:57:49and potentially well thought out and

0:57:52as one of our speakers considered

0:57:55takes into consideration the facts that

0:57:56are out there so

0:58:00for those that are

0:58:01uh

0:58:02that

0:58:04i know i'm trying to get

0:58:06to good tenant support

0:58:08uh good tenant protections

0:58:10i apologize this is going to be a timely

0:58:12setback but hopefully we'll come back

0:58:13with something better

0:58:16council member fidelity yes

0:58:19this is a difficult

0:58:21issue for our community

0:58:23and and like bill jones i write my

0:58:25comments down so i may be looking down a

0:58:27little bit here tonight

0:58:30but like other cities in the bay area el

0:58:32cerrito

0:58:34has been dealing with growth and housing

0:58:36shortages

0:58:37and dealing with development and tenant

0:58:39protection issues as we try to keep our

0:58:41city diverse

0:58:43in income ethnicity and culture

0:58:45i'm excited about the housing plans that

0:58:47we have in the works along san pablo

0:58:49around our bart stations we we are

0:58:51meeting that challenge

0:58:53but we also need to deal with tenant

0:58:55protections and i thought we did so this

0:58:57year in a rational and a very moderate

0:58:59manner

0:59:00i just want to remind everybody what we

0:59:02did i mean we've heard it tonight a

0:59:04little bit but to address dislocation of

0:59:07our existing attendance we came up with

0:59:09a pretty basic el cerrito program

0:59:12rent registry was number one

0:59:14to get the facts as some of our witness

0:59:17public have mentioned about our city's

0:59:19rental and eviction environment the

0:59:21state legislation failed to pass this

0:59:23year so that that's especially important

0:59:26secondly we established a tenant

0:59:28landlord task force for our residents

0:59:31to discuss and possibly recommend agreed

0:59:33upon actions for city council

0:59:35recommendations

0:59:36and finally we

0:59:39established a very moderate just cause

0:59:41ordinance to help our existing tenants

0:59:43as was mentioned we

0:59:45not only exempted local mom and pop

0:59:47landlords

0:59:49but we also so as not to discourage

0:59:51virtu future development

0:59:53exempted any rental properties built

0:59:56after 2015.

0:59:58so even though we were nowhere near to

1:00:00passing any form of rent control

1:00:03that's where the well-financed

1:00:05opposition to our just cause ordinance

1:00:07said we were headed

1:00:09the apartment industry did not want

1:00:10another just cause precedent to succeed

1:00:13in contra costa county

1:00:15and as we all know the reason we're here

1:00:17tonight is that a petition effort was

1:00:19financed to successfully undo

1:00:21that ordinance

1:00:23often using misinformation when

1:00:25residents were asked to sign it happened

1:00:27to me twice

1:00:28once about crime prevention and once

1:00:30about more

1:00:32rent control

1:00:34so it was very upsetting

1:00:35and i've heard from our residents about

1:00:37that

1:00:39so we've been put in a corner here

1:00:41city council

1:00:43just as our soon to be activated task

1:00:46force with local landlords and tenants

1:00:48will hopefully discuss a range of tenant

1:00:50protection issues

1:00:52a lot of thought

1:00:53but i

1:00:55will not be in favor of placing the just

1:00:57cause ordinance on the ballot

1:01:00i believe it would be a costly and

1:01:01divisive

1:01:03exercise for our community at this time

1:01:05and i don't want to go through that

1:01:08no matter how many months the cost will

1:01:10be the organization would be what we

1:01:12would have to go through

1:01:14and it could possibly endanger our other

1:01:16pending and important ballot measures

1:01:18supporting our parks and pools

1:01:21people need to think about that

1:01:23so it's my hope as staff suggests that

1:01:26this council will move to repeal the

1:01:28just cause ordinance and move that

1:01:30discussion onto the task force

1:01:33for further discussion and possible

1:01:34future recommendation in some fashion to

1:01:37this council

1:01:38and i agree with mr lyman i'm anxious to

1:01:40hear what that might be

1:01:42i don't think what we have is worth

1:01:44going to the ballot box for

1:01:46hopefully it will be a place

1:01:48where

1:01:49our task force where tenants see the

1:01:52importance of landlords and their right

1:01:54to to just compensation

1:01:57and it will be a place where landlords

1:01:59acknowledge the important needs to

1:02:00protect tenants against unwanted

1:02:03dislocation in el cerrito

1:02:06regrettably as mr pan said we uh we may

1:02:09be putting our just cause efforts aside

1:02:12for the time being at the local level

1:02:14but

1:02:15assemblyman chu is still moving his

1:02:17anti-gouging bill forward in the state

1:02:20capitol where he uh added a provision

1:02:23about just cause

1:02:24so even though we're backtracking a bit

1:02:27here

1:02:28his bill could impact the entire state

1:02:30and is moving forward

1:02:32so thank you

1:02:35any further discussion

1:02:36no

1:02:40so

1:02:41when i started getting into politics

1:02:43people said

1:02:44why do you want to do that it's nasty

1:02:46out there

1:02:48you don't want to know what goes into

1:02:49the sausage

1:02:52and i have to say that for the most part

1:02:54i thought well this is just little el

1:02:56cerrito

1:02:58and

1:02:58it ain't that bad

1:03:02that was until this came along

1:03:03[Music]

1:03:05until i went to my local grocery store

1:03:07and had someone lie to me

1:03:10about why i should sign a petition

1:03:13walking down the bart path have someone

1:03:15lie to me about why i should sign a

1:03:17petition

1:03:19i had to stand there with my sunglasses

1:03:22and my hat on and my little shorts and

1:03:24i'd tell them i'm the mayor i know

1:03:26what's in that

1:03:28and you're misleading the public

1:03:34the money spent on this campaign

1:03:36and the lies that were told

1:03:39was absolutely shameful

1:03:43and all of you landlords that are out

1:03:45there

1:03:45i know you're good people

1:03:48i know you are

1:03:51maybe not all of you but most of you

1:03:54and

1:03:56i don't think that you want people like

1:03:58that representing you in that way

1:04:01i was perfectly fine with taking this to

1:04:04the public

1:04:05just as you've seen up here we have

1:04:06different opinions on

1:04:08whether this should go forward or not

1:04:10and i think that the people in this town

1:04:14have their opinions on whether this

1:04:16should go forward or not and i'm fine

1:04:18with the majority opinion

1:04:21you know

1:04:21every single one of us that sits up here

1:04:24is a homeowner

1:04:26we're not renting

1:04:28we're not landlords

1:04:31i would actually like to become a

1:04:33landlord someday

1:04:34and ideally an el cerrito but i don't

1:04:36think we can afford it

1:04:38um

1:04:41so this has been a this has been a hard

1:04:44one

1:04:45and um

1:04:48i think i would like to let the people

1:04:50decide

1:04:52and i know i'm in the minority on that

1:04:56and with that i will call

1:05:01for emotion

1:05:04i'd like to move that

1:05:06second

1:05:09do we have to read the ordinance

1:05:11uh yes if you could clarify what the

1:05:13motion is please and read the title of

1:05:15the ordinance

1:05:16an ordinance of the city of el cerrito

1:05:18repealing ordinance 2019

1:05:23which adopted el cerrito municipal code

1:05:26chapter 10

1:05:28point 300

1:05:30dash just cause for eviction and

1:05:32prohibition on harassment of tenants

1:05:36all in favor

1:05:38aye aye

1:05:40those opposed

1:05:42no

1:05:44motion carries

1:05:48amir i do want to move an ordinance uh

1:05:51making sure that this

1:05:52task force does take this up so i would

1:05:55like to move a resolution of the city

1:05:57council of the city of el cerrito

1:05:58amending the resolution 2019-33

1:06:02to modify duties responsibilities and

1:06:04duration for the tenant protection task

1:06:06force this uh this ordinance increases

1:06:09the length of the task force and would

1:06:12add just cause eviction as uh something

1:06:14that they would take up for

1:06:15consideration second

1:06:18a motion by lyman second by fidelity all

1:06:22in favor aye aye

1:06:24those opposed

1:06:25motion carries

1:06:30and with that i will adjourn our meeting

1:06:32our next regular meeting is august 20th

1:06:35at 7 pm

1:06:43o'clock that night for interviews of

1:06:46just for uh the tenant

1:06:48i did mention that at the beginning