Contents
21 sections- 01A new assistant city manager
- 02The first line of defenseS
- 03MLK Day and David Hunter
- 04Another hospital for West CountyS
- 05The Historical Society's year
- 06The 2017 action planS
- 07A thousand volunteer hours
- 08Childcare at the stationN
- 09Thirty-five percent affordableS
- 10The library as a unique componentS
- 11Breaking the back of projectsS
- 12Every two hoursN
- 13Where is transitS
- 14Complaint-based enforcementS
- 15Why aren't we charging themS
- 16Approved without the CouncilS
- 17Far-side bus islands
- 18A million for affordable housingS
- 19Dumbbells don't go on BARTN
- 20It needs a champion
- 21Ken Berndt
01 A new assistant city manager captions 1–199
0:03:42and this
0:03:48we'll begin the meeting
0:03:50may we have roll call please
0:03:53council member fidelity here mayor
0:03:55pro-tem lyman president
0:03:57mayor pardue okimoto
0:03:59present council member abelson here
0:04:01councilman bokinto president
0:04:04all right and now we'll have the pledge
0:04:06of allegiance led by council members
0:04:12to the flag
0:04:13of the united states of america
0:04:15and to the republic for which it stands
0:04:18one nation under god
0:04:21indivisible with liberty and justice for
0:04:24all
0:04:29next we will have staff and council
0:04:31communications
0:04:33we have staff reports
0:04:35yes thank you your honor i would first
0:04:37like to introduce uh at her first
0:04:39meeting tonight our first our assistant
0:04:41city manager alexandra orlogas she comes
0:04:43to us from immediately from the city of
0:04:46oakland prior to that she was in the
0:04:47city of san jose she started 10 days ago
0:04:50and you've already seen her actually at
0:04:52quite a few city events her very first
0:04:54day was the martin luther king day
0:04:55parade which is an excellent first day
0:04:57on any job
0:04:58so we're happy to have her and i just
0:05:00wanted to say welcome and introduce her
0:05:02to
0:05:03everyone here at um and on tv
0:05:06and next i would like to also introduce
0:05:08our fire chief michael pegone and our
0:05:09police chief paul keith and they have an
0:05:11update for you
0:05:12thank you
0:05:15good evening mayor
0:05:17and council and staff i wanted to
0:05:21take a few minutes tonight as we know
0:05:23even though the weather has been quite
0:05:26wet lately
0:05:27we just came out of the last two years
0:05:29of some very severe fire weather
0:05:32and we know that
0:05:33there's been quite concerns with within
0:05:36the city
0:05:37of the
0:05:38fire danger that we
0:05:40potentially have here in el cerrito and
0:05:43so we've been working very hard working
0:05:45to
0:05:46mitigate these
0:05:48issues and so i wanted to give you guys
0:05:50an update during the month of january
0:05:53the fire department continued with our
0:05:55numerous control burns that we started
0:05:57back in
0:05:58in december we initially had about 80
0:06:01piles up in the hillside natural area
0:06:03we're down to about 10 or 12 right now
0:06:07we're going we unfortunately lost a
0:06:09little bit of time the last couple of
0:06:10weeks during the rainstorm due to it
0:06:12being no burn days um seems which is
0:06:15kind of common when storms pull in the
0:06:17conditions are not ripe for
0:06:20for the smoke to rise with it
0:06:22so we're going to be starting weather
0:06:24permitting again we're we're going to be
0:06:26starting later this week
0:06:28burning again and getting the rest of
0:06:30the piles cleaned up these piles are
0:06:34from the efforts last year
0:06:36of cutting down trees and the and the
0:06:38vegetation reduction
0:06:40that we made
0:06:42that we made all of these piles there
0:06:44for it
0:06:45um in january um i believe your last
0:06:48account or your last city manager update
0:06:50we talked about the fact we had the cal
0:06:52fire hand crews the delta camp uh hand
0:06:55crews from solano county were in here
0:06:57for four days they did a tremendous
0:07:00amount of work
0:07:01just off of king court just north of
0:07:04where you enter into the hillside
0:07:06natural area
0:07:08cutting out a lot of brush working on
0:07:10the buffer zone and a lot of fuel
0:07:13reduction
0:07:14with it
0:07:15fortunately next week we have been
0:07:17proved for another week
0:07:19we will be bringing the delta crews back
0:07:22in again and we're going to start going
0:07:24the other direction from king court
0:07:26working down towards the pg e easement
0:07:29towards mosher going down through the
0:07:33hillside there behind the houses
0:07:35in an effort to build about a hundred
0:07:37foot buffer zone through there that's
0:07:40going to be in coordination with pg e
0:07:43who has also agreed to
0:07:45come in from their easement and kind of
0:07:48meet us coming up the hill taking out
0:07:50some trees and kind of sharing some of
0:07:53the
0:07:54the load of the work being done there
0:07:56and also improving
0:07:57their clearance that they have to the
0:07:59high tension lines up there
0:08:01with it so
0:08:03also next week
0:08:05next wednesday
0:08:06the fire department is going to be
0:08:07meeting with east bay park
0:08:10representatives as you have heard they
0:08:13have been
0:08:14diligently working on getting a plan
0:08:16together to
0:08:17make a buffer zone do a fuel break fuel
0:08:20reduction between
0:08:22wildcat canyon and el cerrito and tilden
0:08:25park and kensington they're going to be
0:08:27this break will go all the way from
0:08:29actually the richmond heights area all
0:08:32behind el cerrito all the way into
0:08:34tilden park behind kensington with it
0:08:38they will be starting they um because of
0:08:41the equipment they're bringing in and
0:08:43crews they have to wait till things dry
0:08:45out a little bit but this will be a
0:08:46summer long project going in various
0:08:49places and so they're going to meet with
0:08:50us and kind of explain where they're
0:08:52starting and i'll have more to report to
0:08:55you next month on that
0:08:58as we move into
0:09:00well back in just a little bit as i said
0:09:02before we're doing a lot of work up in
0:09:04the hillside area we've been doing a lot
0:09:06of work as we go into the springtime
0:09:09there there's more that we want to get
0:09:11done and so the fire department will be
0:09:13seeking some funds to continue with some
0:09:16advanced vegetation management
0:09:18this will include you know bringing in
0:09:21the delta crews when we can but also
0:09:23bringing in
0:09:24our normal
0:09:26vegetation management
0:09:29companies that we've used in the past to
0:09:31to keep this work up and keep it going
0:09:33and improve on you know what we've been
0:09:35doing on the last few years with it
0:09:38it's also
0:09:39it's also encouraging to note that
0:09:41there's a whole lot of work
0:09:43or research i should say being done
0:09:45with moraga rinda fire department and uc
0:09:48berkeley on some early
0:09:50detection sensors
0:09:52that they have been testing the last
0:09:53couple of months these are working these
0:09:56are tying into a program that they call
0:09:59an evacuation
0:10:02decision support system that's a that's
0:10:04a long one to say
0:10:06basically this is a computer program
0:10:08that takes the weather readings and
0:10:10takes the
0:10:12inputs that come from these sensors that
0:10:13can pick up
0:10:15heat pick up drops in
0:10:17humidity and also see
0:10:19changes in light that could potentially
0:10:21be a fire and not only give an early
0:10:24warning that a fire is starting in um in
0:10:27an area where people may not be
0:10:29you know like in a in an isolated area
0:10:32and notify a fire department of a fire
0:10:34at an earlier date the decision-making
0:10:37program that they have takes the weather
0:10:39and can predict which way the fire is
0:10:41going and help with determining
0:10:44where resources should go and also
0:10:47evacuation areas that probably should be
0:10:50evacuated so we're going to stay on top
0:10:52of that monitoring it and seeing how and
0:10:55staying in touch with them with the
0:10:57progress they're making on this new new
0:11:00technology
0:11:01the last thing
0:11:03that the fire department is working on
The City Manager introduced the new assistant city manager, and the fire and police chiefs gave a fire-safety update.
The new assistant city manager, Alexandra Orologas, from Oakland and before that San Jose, started ten days earlier; “her very first day was the Martin Luther King Day parade.”
Fire Chief Michael Pigoni reported that control burns had brought about 80 brush piles in the Hillside Natural Area “down to about 10 or 12,” and that Cal Fire's Delta camp hand crews had spent four days clearing brush near King Court. They would return the next week to cut “about a hundred foot buffer zone” toward the PG&E easement, with PG&E working down from its side.
East Bay Regional Parks was planning a summer-long fuel break from the Richmond Heights area behind El Cerrito into Tilden Park. The department would be “seeking some funds to continue with some advanced vegetation management,” and was following Moraga-Orinda Fire and UC Berkeley's tests of early-detection sensors feeding an “evacuation decision support system.”
02 The first line of defense captions 200–399
0:11:05is we're we're working on putting a
0:11:07program together or developing a program
0:11:10that deals in it's a new term that
0:11:12they're using
0:11:14that's basically hardening your homes
0:11:16it's making your houses resistive to
0:11:18embers it's it's steps that homeowners
0:11:21can take um this is beyond veg this is
0:11:24beyond the vegetation it's beyond you
0:11:26know keeping your gutters clean it goes
0:11:28into a lot of steps to take on your
0:11:30homes that make your home basically the
0:11:33first line of defense against a
0:11:36fast-moving wildfire or any wildfire for
0:11:38that matter and more so the embers which
0:11:41they have noted in in the last you know
0:11:44the the paradise fires the redding fires
0:11:46the north bay fires it's usually the
0:11:48embers that are carrying way ahead of
0:11:50the fires that is starting more homes on
0:11:53that are burning with it
0:11:55this was discussed with uh
0:11:58with a joint effort with the police
0:11:59department yesterday in the fire
0:12:01department with the make el cerrito
0:12:04safe group
0:12:06and we had a very good meeting that
0:12:09chief keith will be going into
0:12:11and telling you a little bit more about
0:12:13that so thank you
0:12:15thank you
0:12:18good evening council and mayor i'm paul
0:12:20keith your police chief
0:12:22so i want to talk a little bit about the
0:12:24steps we've taken uh after hearing a lot
0:12:26of community input over the last few
0:12:27months about fire safety and el cerrito
0:12:29some actions that we're gonna be taking
0:12:31in the near term and some actions that
0:12:32we're gonna be taking farther down the
0:12:34line
0:12:34uh so recently the fire chief has talked
0:12:37about continued efforts to manage
0:12:38vegetation in the hillside area
0:12:41also el cerrito fire and police staff
0:12:43attended evacuation drills in both
0:12:45moraga and orinda i personally went to
0:12:47the arinda evacuation and
0:12:49saw the amount of organization that goes
0:12:51into planning a community evacuation
0:12:54drill even if it's only a small part of
0:12:56your community
0:12:57some of the actions we also met with the
0:12:59keep el cerrito fire safe group
0:13:02and it was a great opportunity for
0:13:04fire chief pagone and i to hear
0:13:07ideas that are from residents in our
0:13:09neighborhoods and it was nice to hear
0:13:11expansions on ideas sometimes it's hard
0:13:14to get the full concept from idea when
0:13:16people only have three minutes to talk
0:13:18so it was great to have a longer
0:13:19conversation we met for about two hours
0:13:22talked about some specific concerns in
0:13:24the hillside nature area and talked
0:13:26about their ideas for future fire safety
0:13:30efforts in el cerrito and we were able
0:13:32to talk about some of the things that we
0:13:33had planned as well
0:13:35so in the near term the el estrido fire
0:13:37department the el cerrito police
0:13:38department and the kensington police
0:13:39department are going to be meeting to
0:13:40develop and publish evacuation routes
0:13:42for both the community of kensington and
0:13:45the city of el cerrito
0:13:46we're also going to be coordinating with
0:13:48the county warning system on some el
0:13:49cerrito-specific evacuation zones to
0:13:52help us with progressive community
0:13:54evacuations in the event of a major
0:13:56disaster
0:13:57we are in the planning stages of an el
0:13:59strudel evacuation drill i don't have
0:14:01dates yet we're still working on how
0:14:04many staff members are going to be
0:14:05involved and when the right timing is
0:14:07going to be for that event
0:14:09and we're in the process of considering
0:14:11feedback that we got from the fire safe
0:14:13group yesterday in our meeting they had
0:14:15a wide range of ideas some things that
0:14:17might be potential
0:14:19proposals for city ordinances other
0:14:21things that can be policy level
0:14:23decisions amongst the police and fire
0:14:25department so we got a lot of feedback
0:14:27from them and we're still in discussions
0:14:29about exactly what our next steps are
0:14:31going to be from that meeting
0:14:32in the longer term we're planning on
0:14:34publishing an evacuation route map that
0:14:36will hopefully go out in our city
0:14:37newsletter and will also be available
0:14:39digitally online
0:14:41the fire department is also working to
0:14:43identify funding for advanced vegetation
0:14:45management and we also plan to schedule
0:14:48a larger public meeting in the future so
0:14:49that we can talk about things like plans
0:14:51for a evacuation drill
0:14:54the evacuation rat map things that
0:14:57people can do to prepare for evacuations
0:14:59in the event of a major wildfire
0:15:01emergency
0:15:02and other opportunities for the public
0:15:04to talk about ideas they may have for
0:15:06future fire related programs
0:15:08so that's kind of a quick snapshot of
0:15:11some of the things we've been working on
0:15:13to
0:15:13try to address some significant concerns
0:15:15from our community
0:15:18thank you very much thank you
0:15:20mayor if i may have a quick question
0:15:24chief keith you just used a term called
0:15:26progressive evacuation i was wondering
0:15:27if you could explain what that is
0:15:29so the way the community warning system
0:15:32works is uh they have a map of the whole
0:15:34city of el cerrito
0:15:36so in the event of an evacuation we
0:15:38could tell them we want everybody
0:15:40evacuated from arlington to the east
0:15:43and to do that they would take a mouse
0:15:45and basically draw a big circle on the
0:15:48map and the system could activate every
0:15:50phone number
0:15:52in that region and tell them evacuate
0:15:53now
0:15:55what we saw in arinda and moraga is that
0:15:57they have
0:15:58contacted community warning system in
0:16:00advance and set up pre-programmed
0:16:02neighborhoods
0:16:04so in orenda for example in one of their
0:16:07hilly areas they could say we want an
0:16:09immediate evacuation of a rinda
0:16:11neighborhood seven nine and ten
0:16:13and the community warning system could
0:16:14do an immediate evacuation just hit the
0:16:16numbers coded in for a rinda and then
0:16:18they could say in one hour we want
0:16:21official evacuation notices to go out to
0:16:24these other neighborhoods and we want a
0:16:26two-hour evacuation notification for
0:16:28this other set of three neighborhoods so
0:16:30on the fly without having to spend time
0:16:33drawing in the specific neighborhoods
0:16:34the community warning system can just
0:16:36give out different evacuation orders for
0:16:38different neighborhoods to allow for the
0:16:40people who are closest to the threat to
0:16:43evacuate first and people that are
0:16:45farthest from the threat to either have
0:16:47a heads up that evacuations may be
0:16:49occurring to start preparing or to say
0:16:51an evacuation will begin at this
0:16:53particular time great thank you very
0:16:54much sure
0:16:56thank you
0:16:58can i oh paul fidelli yeah can i ask
0:17:01staff if this will be put on our website
0:17:03the list of what will be done
0:17:05is this something that will be listed
0:17:07for our community to see um we have some
0:17:10of this in
0:17:11that is in a prior city manager update
0:17:13and we can continue to put more of this
0:17:15within the city manager updates if it
0:17:17could be always posted absolutely
0:17:19you know what our city is doing in
0:17:21response because it's a great list i'm
0:17:23great i'm glad to see this happening
0:17:24from both sure we can talk offices and
0:17:27the only question i had is this is all
0:17:28being done with the existing resources
0:17:31that we have correct
0:17:32excellent thank you
0:17:35okay
0:17:36all right and with that i'll start with
0:17:38you do you have any communications
0:17:40council member um yes several of us
0:17:44attended staff
0:17:45events uh over the last couple of weeks
0:17:47uh staff appreciation we all realize
0:17:50where the power is in el cerrito and
0:17:52it's with the staff so thank you staff
0:17:55uh and the crab feed for um the rec and
0:17:57parks department
The fire department described home hardening and evacuation planning.
Hardening: “making your houses resistive to embers… beyond the vegetation… beyond… keeping your gutters clean,” to make “your home basically the first line of defense against a fast-moving wildfire.”
The fire chief cited the Paradise, Redding and North Bay fires — “it's usually the embers that are carrying way ahead of the fires” — and said the program had been discussed with the Make El Cerrito Fire Safe group.
Police Chief Paul Keith said El Cerrito fire and police, with the Kensington police, would develop and publish evacuation routes for both communities and set up El Cerrito zones in the county warning system for “progressive community evacuations”; an El Cerrito evacuation drill was in planning, without dates. In the longer term: “we're planning on publishing an evacuation route map” in the newsletter and online, and a larger public meeting on a drill.
Asked what progressive evacuation means, he described pre-programmed neighborhoods, as Orinda and Moraga have, so the warning system can order those nearest a fire out first and warn others to prepare.
Fadelli asked that the list be posted for the community; staff said it would continue to appear in the City Manager updates.
Council reports began: a councilmember thanked staff for the staff appreciation event and the recreation department's crab feed.
Home hardening becomes a program — “the first line of defense against a fast-moving wildfire” — and the police announce evacuation routes with Kensington, warning-system zones, an evacuation route map and a planned drill.
03 MLK Day and David Hunter captions 400–799
0:18:00also i attended the east bay
0:18:03league of cities division
0:18:05where we talked about the casa proposal
0:18:08for a regional tenant and housing
0:18:11development plan in the bay area
0:18:13and finally the ac transit outreach on
0:18:16rate change issues in the bay area thank
0:18:18you
0:18:19councilmember lyman
0:18:21um
0:18:22yeah i do i um i think since we last met
0:18:25we had the martin luther king day parade
0:18:27and i want to thank staff and
0:18:30for all of the work that they put into
0:18:32making that parade very successful
0:18:35the full council was present and
0:18:37the human relations commission the
0:18:41entertainment we had uh the event was
0:18:43was fantastic
0:18:45um
0:18:46going through my calendar real quick
0:18:48sorry
0:18:49i do have
0:18:50um
0:18:52just making sure i'm not missing
0:18:53anything i do have a report out from the
0:18:57solid waste the recycle more
0:18:59meeting
0:19:00they have a couple of household houses
0:19:02waste events coming up in other
0:19:04communities that potentially are of
0:19:06interest to our community anybody within
0:19:09the service area can attend these uh on
0:19:11april 13th there will be a household
0:19:14hazardous waste event
0:19:16in uh
0:19:18so it's they're hoping to have it in
0:19:19panel but it may end up in hercules at
0:19:21the hercules corporation yard
0:19:24also if for those that potentially are
0:19:26regular attendees you will remember back
0:19:29in i think it was
0:19:31november
0:19:33doctor from contra costa county came and
0:19:35spoke to us and said that the number one
0:19:38thing that we can do to
0:19:40start ending the opioid
0:19:42addictions and opioid problem is to
0:19:45allow for controlled substances to be
0:19:47collected at um
0:19:49at
0:19:50pharmacies where these uh are dispensed
0:19:53and i learned uh in january that cvs on
0:19:56san paulo avenue and cbs at the plaza
0:19:59now will take back
0:20:01uh controlled substances so
0:20:03this is uh
0:20:05barbiturates and
0:20:06pharmaceuticals that
0:20:09technically cannot be dropped off at the
0:20:10recycling center because they are
0:20:12controlled so they need to be dropped
0:20:13off at a controlled
0:20:15substance disposal site we now have two
0:20:18in el cerrito at the two cbs stores
0:20:21um so that
0:20:23uh
0:20:25that continued that i will continue the
0:20:27rest of my report out later
0:20:29all right councilmember
0:20:31thank you
0:20:32thank you mayor um i just wanted to
0:20:34report that i did attend the
0:20:36environmental quality
0:20:38meeting up in sacramento with the league
0:20:40of california cities and
0:20:43i met with
0:20:45several of our senators including
0:20:48senator henry stern
0:20:50from the malibu area and he told me that
0:20:53he lost his home
0:20:55and
0:20:56he is on
0:20:58and he wants to work
0:21:00with mayors and council members up and
0:21:03down the state to make sure that cities
0:21:06are prepared
0:21:08for
0:21:10a disaster whatever it may be so
0:21:13so they're in malibu they're dealing
0:21:15with fema issues and
0:21:18so many other things and
0:21:20so know that
0:21:23he'll be working with our local senator
0:21:25senator nancy skinner and buffy wicks
0:21:28to
0:21:29make sure that these things are more
0:21:32streamlined and we're looking at how
0:21:34long it took uh up in napa county uh
0:21:37during the last earthquake there and
0:21:41and people are still dealing with that
0:21:42now
0:21:43so these are the the painful effects of
0:21:45dealing with uh disaster um is uh
0:21:50the slow pace of
0:21:52of rebuilding so
0:21:54whatever we can do to prevent that in
0:21:56the future so i appreciate our fire
0:21:59chief and our police chief
0:22:01with
0:22:02everything that they're doing and what
0:22:04they will be doing this year to make
0:22:06sure that our residents are safe
0:22:08and that was on the top of our list in
0:22:10the environmental committee
0:22:13and we did ask
0:22:15the mayors and and uh council members
0:22:17that are part of that
0:22:19committee did ask for more funding
0:22:22so
0:22:23you know white did speak to
0:22:25senator
0:22:26henry stern about that and also
0:22:30with
0:22:32a couple of the senators that are with
0:22:34the environmental committee and the
0:22:37senate side
0:22:38buffy wicks already knows about that as
0:22:41she met with
0:22:43residents from kensington and i did
0:22:46discuss with her with the league of
0:22:48cities
0:22:50the
0:22:52need for more local funding to take down
0:22:55many of our trees and
0:22:57and to look into making sure that we get
0:23:00rid of our eucalyptus trees that are
0:23:02here on the hillside
0:23:04and then also
0:23:06i want to report that i did have uh uh
0:23:10attend the historic el cerino historical
0:23:13society and dave that was a an amazing
0:23:16uh
0:23:18sunday afternoon to hear uh joel selvin
0:23:22who i've read for many many years on the
0:23:24chronicle who was in charge of he he did
0:23:27the band reviews back then and
0:23:30so to hear
0:23:31uh the local
0:23:34neighbors speak about the fogerties and
0:23:36uh family members were part of that as
0:23:39well at uh
0:23:40uh crazy back when i was a musician in
0:23:42the 80s so uh maybe we'll we'll talk
0:23:45about the 80s uh uh era sometime soon
0:23:49and then
0:23:50also i wanted to say that i did
0:23:55attend with my colleagues
0:23:57the league of cities east bay division
0:24:00and our
0:24:02assembly member buffy wick spoke on
0:24:04um
0:24:06casa and we did have people from
0:24:08uh abag the association of bay area
0:24:11government and also mtc
0:24:14uh so i'm hoping our audience will
0:24:18google
0:24:20casa and and look through the mtc abag
0:24:23website
0:24:25to know what cities in the region
0:24:28are supporting so
0:24:30that's my report thank you thank you
0:24:32councilmember ableton thank you
0:24:35i also attended the league policy
0:24:37committees
0:24:40this year i have
0:24:41presidential appointments
0:24:43again to the community services policy
0:24:47committee
0:24:48and as a new assignment i'm
0:24:50on the housing committee of the league
0:24:53california cities
0:24:54so i'm looking forward
0:24:57to that being a very interesting and
0:25:02experience this year and
0:25:05i will be reporting back on that
0:25:10i also
0:25:11was in the martin luther king parade
0:25:15along with my fellow council members
0:25:18and
0:25:20i'm just looking through here so i can
0:25:28i went to the east bay division meeting
0:25:30um and also heard about casa there
0:25:34and i also
0:25:36[Music]
0:25:38was at wic tech
0:25:40the
0:25:41crab free put on by the wreck department
0:25:43i think they did a fantastic
0:25:46job this year as well as raising much
0:25:48needed funds
0:25:50to support
0:25:53people who are either
0:25:55seniors and
0:25:57partake of our senior activities but
0:25:59don't have the funding this helps to
0:26:02fund that
0:26:03and the same goes for our youth
0:26:06activities
0:26:07so
0:26:08this is in memory of
0:26:11david hunter
0:26:12who worked at the
0:26:15pool
0:26:16a number of years ago and
0:26:19lost his life
0:26:20when he went up to the
0:26:23tahoe area
0:26:24on a weekend
0:26:27ski trip and
0:26:29so
0:26:31it's a great way to remember him and
0:26:33provide
0:26:34help to people who otherwise couldn't
0:26:36afford it
0:26:38i also attended the arts and culture
0:26:40commission for the first time
0:26:42and enjoyed that i've been hearing about
0:26:44it for a very long time so to actually
0:26:47go was great i know about all of the
0:26:50good work that they have done certainly
0:26:52over the years
0:26:54and they've come up with some really
0:26:56good policies
0:26:57that were presented at the council and
0:26:59then adopted and um
0:27:02are now part of what we do one of which
0:27:04i believe was
0:27:07the set-aside of funding for
0:27:13community
0:27:15art in a variety of formats
0:27:19when there's construction
0:27:21and
0:27:23the
0:27:24i also as a as a member of ccta
0:27:28the board i uh
0:27:30uh participated in a strategic planning
0:27:34meeting that lasted all day in january
0:27:38and
0:27:39it was really useful and interesting
0:27:41it's the first time ever in my
0:27:44experience that we've ever had that kind
0:27:46of a a planning thing
0:27:49the central issue is that
0:27:53we have measure j which provides
0:27:57a lot of funding i believe over 2
0:27:59billion dollars over a period of 25
0:28:02years
0:28:03for
0:28:04transportation in our county
0:28:08and
0:28:10ccta did a really good job of
0:28:13doing all the building really early in
0:28:15the measure
0:28:17so we've still got a lot of years left
0:28:19in the measure
0:28:21and yet we don't have any more projects
0:28:24to do so sort of the
0:28:26the thing that we primarily do
0:28:29there isn't much of left to do
0:28:31so the question becomes what do we do
0:28:33with ourselves there are still of course
0:28:36all of the programs left to fund because
0:28:39those are funded
0:28:41through
0:28:42on a yearly basis throughout the major
0:28:45not just
0:28:46it's not a project it means for example
0:28:49we're paying for bus service and that
0:28:51those are operation dollars
0:28:54so um
0:28:55anyway it was a very thoughtful
0:28:58conversation and
0:29:00we you know didn't make any final
0:29:02decisions of course but
0:29:04um it it really was a good way to bring
0:29:07people together and
0:29:10and discuss the issue
0:29:12i also went to the employee appreciation
0:29:16event
0:29:18and i um
0:29:20let's see here
0:29:23um
0:29:27oops
0:29:28i'm just
0:29:31um
0:29:32those are some of the
0:29:33main events that i went to um
0:29:36in january
0:29:38it seemed like everybody after the
0:29:40holidays was very refreshed and ready to
0:29:43go and ready to work
0:29:45and
0:29:46so
0:29:48everybody scheduled meetings and
0:29:51produced papers on different documents
0:29:54so it was a very busy time
0:29:57for i think all of us probably
0:30:00that's my report thank you
0:30:03so i
0:30:05also attended the martin luther king jr
0:30:07annual event and it was a great event as
0:30:11usual
0:30:12the event started
0:30:14because
0:30:15el cerrito
0:30:16did not recognize martin luther king and
0:30:20the the day
0:30:21and
0:30:23so there were a group of citizens uh
0:30:26residents that
0:30:27came and marched on city hall and now we
0:30:30have the annual march from
0:30:32city hall to the high school and so it
0:30:35was an absolute honor for me to be
0:30:38standing there this year to honor martin
0:30:40luther king jr he is one of my heroes
0:30:44and
0:30:45to be
0:30:46the second african-american mayor in
0:30:50el ceverido was just a great honor for
0:30:52me
0:30:53and um
0:30:54which i wanted to also mention and
0:30:57instead of
0:30:58pulling it on our
0:31:00consent calendar we we do have a
0:31:04resolution that we'll be voting on later
0:31:05on
0:31:06recognizing black history month so we're
0:31:09in the
0:31:10midst of
0:31:11black history month now and i just
0:31:12wanted to do
0:31:14or to say to
0:31:16all of the trailblazers here in el
0:31:18cerrito
0:31:20that have
0:31:21that marched on city hall all those
0:31:23years ago
0:31:24i don't believe i would be sitting here
0:31:26today if it wasn't for the hard work
0:31:28that people before me have done so
0:31:31i thank the naacp
0:31:33and the leaders at the cmu church
0:31:36i believe that the work that you
0:31:38did all those years ago is now paying
0:31:40off and i thank you
0:31:44and then to go on i also attended the
0:31:47new mayor's academy in
0:31:49sacramento and a lot of it was refresher
0:31:52for me from the new council members
0:31:53academy but i did have an opportunity to
0:31:56speak with some other
0:31:58council members and mayors from
0:32:00around the state and once again the
0:32:03topic of fire safety came up hearing
0:32:06stories of
0:32:07our
0:32:08our mayor friends that really had to to
0:32:11act in times of crisis and what they
0:32:13learn from it and how we can
0:32:15take those lessons here and we've
0:32:17brought them back and we're discussing
0:32:19them now so i appreciate the opportunity
0:32:21to go
0:32:22to that conference
0:32:25this month was my
0:32:28my first time of being able to lead the
0:32:31west county mayor's conference that we
0:32:33are now having here in el cerrito on the
0:32:36fourth thursday of the month
0:32:39for our first meeting we had a
0:32:40presentation by mr andy katz
0:32:44who serves on the alta bates save alt
0:32:47debates task force with me
0:32:50and he presented the health impact
0:32:52assessment which we helped to fund and
0:32:56uc berkeley was the one that produced
0:32:59this health impact assessment and
0:33:02it's you can you can look at the health
0:33:05impact assessment from our minutes from
0:33:07that meeting
0:33:09and
0:33:11basically it's what we have all feared
0:33:13is that
0:33:17women
0:33:18people of color and the elderly will be
Council reports covered the parade, a fundraiser and a new commission experience.
A councilmember reported the East Bay League division's discussion of the CASA proposal and AC Transit's fare outreach.
Lyman thanked staff for the Martin Luther King Day parade, with the full Council and the Human Relations Commission present.
He also reported that the two CVS stores, on San Pablo Avenue and at the Plaza, “now will take back uh controlled substances,” which cannot be dropped off at the recycling center.
A councilmember reported meeting Senator Henry Stern, who lost his home in Malibu, at a League of California Cities environmental meeting, and pressing for more local funding to take down trees and “get rid of our eucalyptus trees” on the hillside.
Abelson, newly on the League's housing committee, reported the recreation department's crab feed, which raises money for seniors and youth who cannot afford program fees, in memory of David Hunter, who “worked at the pool” and died on a ski trip to the Tahoe area.
She also attended the Arts and Culture Commission for the first time, and an all-day CCTA strategic planning session: Measure J's projects were built early, and “we don't have any more projects to do.”
The Mayor recalled that the King celebration began because El Cerrito “did not recognize martin luther king” and residents marched on City Hall, and called it an honor to stand there as “the second african-american mayor” of the city. She also reported the new mayors' academy and the first West County mayors' conference she led, where the Alta Bates health impact assessment was presented.
04 Another hospital for West County captions 800–882
0:33:21disproportionately affected by the
0:33:22closure of all debates
0:33:24and so
0:33:26we as the mayors of west county are
0:33:28committed to keeping ultimates open
0:33:32in addition to that it really sparked
0:33:33the conversation of what we've already
0:33:35lost here in terms of hospitals
0:33:39doctors hospital closing in 2015 and
0:33:42what's our plan now
0:33:44and so we're really starting to discuss
0:33:47okay well we need to keep all debates
0:33:49open but furthermore we need another
0:33:51hospital in west county
0:33:53what we have in kaiser
0:33:55is insufficient
0:33:58i even have a personal story my my
0:34:01mother-in-law was there
0:34:02just recently and
0:34:04in the emergency room at kaiser and it's
0:34:07so overburdened by everyone using the
0:34:10same emergency room
0:34:12um you know the wait times are just you
0:34:15know out of control most of the time
0:34:18and uh it's we need to have a movement
0:34:22amongst ourselves um
0:34:24to really demand that we have
0:34:26care in this area
0:34:28so we're going to at our next mayor's
0:34:31conference meeting which will be on
0:34:33february 28th at 8 30 in the morning
0:34:35right here we're going to have john
0:34:37joyah come and speak and he is going to
0:34:39give us basically a run down as to
0:34:42the how's when's and why is dr
0:34:45doctors hospital closed so that we can
0:34:47continue our discussion on
0:34:50where to go next
0:34:53and then
0:34:54just to wrap up quickly with reports
0:34:58i also attended
0:35:00the staff appreciation dinner which was
0:35:02fantastic the sweetheart dance where i
0:35:05brought my three sweethearts to it and
0:35:07we danced and um also i got my husband
0:35:11to go to three events in like two weeks
0:35:14which was amazing
0:35:16because he doesn't like going to events
0:35:18or dinners
0:35:19and we did the crab feed here as well
0:35:22and i challenged everyone to eat more
0:35:25crab than me and i don't think anyone
0:35:27met that challenge
0:35:30i can contest to that
0:35:33crap
0:35:34all right
0:35:36and so from there we'll move on to oral
0:35:38communications from the public
0:35:40at this time anyone wishing to speak
0:35:43should complete a speaker card and give
0:35:45it to the city clerk remarks are
0:35:47typically limited to three minutes per
0:35:49person
0:35:50however depending on the number of
0:35:51speakers i may reduce that
0:35:54as i see fit
0:35:56please state your name and city of
0:35:58residence for the record
0:36:00comments on non-agenda consent calendar
0:36:03items will be heard first
0:36:05comments related to policy items will be
0:36:07heard at the time the city council
0:36:09deliberates on each of these items and
0:36:12as a quick reminder
0:36:14there is a light in the front and
0:36:16hopefully you'll be able to see it
0:36:18tonight
0:36:20it is green when you have plenty of time
0:36:23left yellow when your time is starting
0:36:24to run out and red means you need to
0:36:26stop speaking
0:36:29will the cities clerk please call the
0:36:31speakers at this time we have five
The Mayor described the fight to keep Alta Bates open.
Her account: West County is “disproportionately affected by the closure of Alta Bates,” and the mayors of West County were “committed to keeping Alta Bates open.”
And beyond that: “what we've already lost… Doctors Hospital closing in 2015… we need another hospital in West County. What we have in Kaiser is insufficient.”
Supervisor John Gioia would speak at the next mayors' conference, on 28 February, on “the how's when's and why” Doctors Hospital closed.
Her personal example: her mother-in-law's recent wait in the Kaiser emergency room.
The Mayor ties the Alta Bates closure to an earlier loss: “Doctors Hospital closing in 2015… we need another hospital in West County. What we have in Kaiser is insufficient.”
05 The Historical Society's year captions 883–1099
0:36:33speakers the first three speakers are
0:36:35dave weinstein
0:36:37susan duncan
0:36:39and nick
0:36:42zamarano
0:36:43all right thank you please proceed
0:36:45mayor excuse me still getting over a
0:36:47call for about a month and a half mayor
0:36:49and members of the council i'm here
0:36:50talking i'm dave weinstein president of
0:36:53the el cerrito
0:36:54historical society and every year i'd
0:36:56like to give you a report about what
0:36:58we've done in the prior year and what
0:37:00we're up to this year i want to start
0:37:02out by saying that i believe we're
0:37:04probably the only organization that has
0:37:06an office in this building other than
0:37:08the city of el cerrito and we really
0:37:11appreciate that and take it very
0:37:12seriously and we see ourselves as
0:37:14working closely
0:37:15maybe not as closely as we want to be
0:37:17with the city not just on looking at the
0:37:20past but on what we can do for the
0:37:21present and the future and i want to
0:37:23commend uh maya williams the new
0:37:25assistant to the city manager who i
0:37:27believe will be working with very
0:37:28closely on some of our programs and
0:37:31projects we were very busy last year we
0:37:34did a lot of different events
0:37:36i only recently realized that most of
0:37:38them were happen um out of doors we did
0:37:41a very well attended tour of the uh
0:37:43cemetery we did another one around
0:37:45gambling tours and many other
0:37:47tours
0:37:49as um
0:37:50councilmember aquinto mentioned we had a
0:37:53recent program
0:37:54about the history of credence clearwater
0:37:57and we attracted more than 200 people to
0:37:59that including the famous guitar player
0:38:02player peter alvin with big brother in
0:38:04the holding company
0:38:05we are looking to make
0:38:08credence clear water of focus this year
0:38:11it's 50 years since they became the
0:38:13biggest band in the world
0:38:15i think that when people come to this
0:38:18city
0:38:19to learn about credence and they do i
0:38:21got an email from a guy named alberto he
0:38:24was eating at fat apples he's from
0:38:26argentina and he was really sorry
0:38:28because he had a return to buenos aires
0:38:30a few days before our credence program
0:38:33we're putting it online so he can watch
0:38:35it but people do come to the city
0:38:38to see credence places and there's
0:38:40nothing in the city
0:38:43that tells them hey this is queen's
0:38:44hometown so we would like to work with
0:38:46the city and the chamber to change that
0:38:49somehow this year
0:38:50including we're going to we're hoping to
0:38:52have an exhibit upstairs we will have
0:38:54another credence program i think that
0:38:56they could be seen
0:38:58as a tool of economic development and
0:39:01cultural heritage
0:39:03we're working to
0:39:04uh digitize the el cerrito journal going
0:39:08back to 1917 we were recently recipients
0:39:11of i'm not sure we got the whole run i
0:39:13don't think so but a lot of it right now
0:39:16if you want to study the history of el
0:39:17cerrito it's plenty hard once that thing
0:39:20is digitized and online it'll be a heck
0:39:22of a lot easier we're looking forward to
0:39:24working as a city moves towards creating
0:39:28a historic preservation ordinance
0:39:31especially as more growth and
0:39:32development happens in the city
0:39:34preserving some of the historic
0:39:36buildings there are portions of san
0:39:38pablo avenue which still if you look at
0:39:41them closely there are a number of
0:39:43buildings there that are not quite
0:39:45intact but close enough we could
0:39:47recreate what the italian section of san
0:39:50pablo avenue used to look like with some
0:39:52of those storefronts as developers came
0:39:54in they could be asked to recreate some
0:39:57of the trans and windows it could be
0:39:59great
0:40:00please finish your comments excuse me
0:40:03am i done
0:40:05yeah all right
0:40:06no are you
0:40:08are you doing public comment are you
0:40:10doing a a presentation for the
0:40:11historical society comment okay so your
0:40:15time is up okay well thank you very much
0:40:17thank you
0:40:19the next speaker is susan duncan
0:40:27good evening i'm susan duncan i live in
0:40:29el cerrito and i am from the group make
0:40:31el cerrito make el cerrito fire safe
0:40:36this will be a brief summary of what we
0:40:38have done so far uh first i wanted to
0:40:42thank on behalf of our group the el
0:40:44cerrito fire department for getting the
0:40:45foul the cal fire delta crew in they
0:40:48really did a great job of
0:40:50getting rid of a lot of heavy
0:40:52brush and i hope now that or the city
0:40:55should now keep this area
0:40:57cleared as it is now and to prevent the
0:40:59heavy growth from coming back
0:41:04seven members of our group make el
0:41:06cerrito fire safe have met with city
0:41:08council members individually
0:41:10and as the chiefs previously noted five
0:41:13of us met with them and with the
0:41:15assistant city manager thank you to all
0:41:18of you for meeting with us we know how
0:41:19valuable your time is
0:41:22we are looking forward to meeting with
0:41:23the city manager
0:41:26we look forward our group looks forward
0:41:28to working with the city to mitigate the
0:41:30fire hazards that exist within the city
0:41:34and surrounding it especially the east
0:41:36bay regional park district lands we are
0:41:38in the process of scheduling meetings
0:41:40with them
0:41:42we have sent a letter to governor newsom
0:41:44with copies to the state attorney
0:41:46general state insurance commissioner
0:41:48our elected state and federal
0:41:50legislatures
0:41:51supervisor joya and the el cerrito city
0:41:54council and officials
0:41:55we are in the process of trying to
0:41:57arrange meetings with all of these
0:41:59people or their staff members
0:42:01about our concerns about fire safety
0:42:03and funding and also trying to
0:42:06perhaps
0:42:08speed the
0:42:09process of permits from the federal and
0:42:11state levels
0:42:14our letter was signed by 60 households
0:42:1692 neighbors
0:42:18we realized that this will be a very
0:42:20long process but we must move as quickly
0:42:22as possible and try to have as much
0:42:24vegetation
0:42:27cleared by the spring when we have a few
0:42:29warm days and then certainly even more
0:42:32by the time the hot dry days of
0:42:34september october arrive with the diablo
0:42:37winds let's continue to work together
0:42:39thank you
0:42:41thank you
0:42:46good evening madam mayor city council
0:42:48members
0:42:49city staff
0:42:51i was very my name is nick samarano el
0:42:53suido
0:42:54very encouraging to hear from the fire
0:42:56chief and the police chief this evening
0:42:59it seems like we're all working together
0:43:01and we're
0:43:02on the right track
0:43:04we still have a lot of work to do though
0:43:07i want to talk about
0:43:09wildland urban interface fire risk in
0:43:11regards to preventing a catastrophic
0:43:14fire here in el cerrito
0:43:16and i know that all of us are aware of
0:43:18the fire dangers
0:43:19that we live in but we have to keep
0:43:21reminding ourselves of this issue so we
0:43:24don't look focused
0:43:25and we keep our eyes
0:43:27forward and moving in the right
0:43:29direction altogether
0:43:32wildland urban interface or wui as
0:43:36as it's called is defined as an area
0:43:38which wildlands communities are
0:43:40sufficiently close to each other to
0:43:41present a credible risk of the fire
0:43:43spreading from one to the other
0:43:46the housing density and geography of el
0:43:48cerrito and kensington are such that
0:43:51most of the developed areas not only
0:43:53border wi areas
0:43:55but also include conditions within the
0:43:57urbanized areas that can fuel wildfires
0:44:01both el cerrito and kensington and the
0:44:03adjacent east bay regional district
0:44:05parklands have been identified as
0:44:08at significant risk from wildfire
0:44:12due to the number and density of homes
0:44:14built
0:44:15in the very high fire hazard severity
0:44:17zones
0:44:18elsewhere and kensington have areas of
0:44:20highly flammable structures amongst an
0:44:23over accumulation of flammable
0:44:25vegetation
0:44:26this massive fuel load of homes and
0:44:28vegetation in the areas steep topography
0:44:31makes fires very difficult to contain
The Historical Society gave its annual report.
Its president: “we're probably the only organization that has an office in this building other than the city of El Cerrito.”
Its year included a cemetery tour, other walking tours and a program on Creedence Clearwater Revival that drew more than 200 people; “people do come to the city to see credence places,” and the society wanted to mark the band's 50th year with the city and the chamber.
It was digitizing the El Cerrito Journal back to 1917, and looked to a historic preservation ordinance, suggesting developers could recreate storefronts of what was once the Italian section of San Pablo Avenue.
Susan Duncan of Make El Cerrito Fire Safe thanked the fire department for bringing in the Delta crew, and reported a letter to Governor Newsom, copied to state and local officials, “signed by 60 households 92 neighbors.”
Nick Samarano then turned to wildland-urban interface risk: El Cerrito and Kensington have “highly flammable structures among an over accumulation of flammable vegetation.”
06 The 2017 action plan captions 1100–1357
0:44:34in addition non-native and invasive
0:44:37weedy vegetation has replaced the more
0:44:39fire resistive and ecologically stable
0:44:42native species in many places adding to
0:44:45the potential threat
0:44:47in the el cerrito-kensington wildfire
0:44:49action plan of 2017
0:44:52specific prevention strategies were
0:44:54prioritized to reduce the fuel load
0:44:56hazards
0:44:57thus preventing a catastrophic fire from
0:44:59occurring these strategies included the
0:45:02city of el cerrito public works to
0:45:04continue to implement vegetation
0:45:06management
0:45:07in the city owned hillside natural area
0:45:10in parks and in rights away
0:45:13also the el carito fire department
0:45:15kensington fire protection district were
0:45:18to continue to implement vegetation
0:45:20programs
0:45:21visually inspect every property public
0:45:24and private within australia and
0:45:26kensington notify property owners when
0:45:29vegetation manage management standards
0:45:31are not being met and achieved
0:45:32compliance with 100 compliance
0:45:35in addition efcd and kfpd were to hire
0:45:39private contractors and or cdc crews to
0:45:41maintain and enforce defensible space
0:45:44areas on public land
0:45:46the questions are do we have
0:45:48sufficient funding to continue to
0:45:50implement these strategies
0:45:52if not how can we obtain these and and
0:45:56where can we get this money from we are
0:45:58committed as a committee please finish
0:46:00your comments make healthy fire safe to
0:46:02work with the city council city
0:46:04departments and city staff
0:46:06to implement the strategies
0:46:08so let's get working thank you thank you
0:46:10the next speaker is paul duncan followed
0:46:12by a buddy accolic and
0:46:15al miller
0:46:22thank you good evening i'm paul duncan
0:46:24representing make el cerrito fire safe
0:46:27i'm excited to hear tonight from the
0:46:30about the plans for the near future
0:46:32action by the fire and police department
0:46:34that was really really good news and i
0:46:36think i speak for just about everybody
0:46:38saying that that's good to hear uh that
0:46:41you know the message is getting through
0:46:43and they're spending their uh energies
0:46:45wisely
0:46:46i want to thank nick for
0:46:48starting to talk specifically about this
0:46:50plan the el cerrito kensington wildfire
0:46:54action plan uh this document is rather
0:46:56long but it's available online and we've
0:46:59been referencing it uh some but i wanted
0:47:01to make it clear that that's the report
0:47:03that he's talking about
0:47:07it's got a lot of really good
0:47:08suggestions and
0:47:10concrete
0:47:12action plans and this is something that
0:47:15the
0:47:16city council has signed off on
0:47:19in as recently as 2017
0:47:21so it's a it's an active document
0:47:25i want to uh you know quote one section
0:47:27in my brief time here that i think is
0:47:30particularly important section 2.2
0:47:336.2.2
0:47:36comprehensive emergency management plays
0:47:39a key role in reducing the community's
0:47:41risk from wildfire and other hazards
0:47:43integrating federal requirements for
0:47:45multihazard mitigation within the fire
0:47:48action plan efforts can help access
0:47:50federal funds through fema
0:47:52and department of homeland security
0:47:56the monitoring of hazardous fuel
0:47:58reduction projects on private land and
0:48:00public lands will assist stakeholders
0:48:03all of us included in understanding the
0:48:06extent to which reduction goals are
0:48:08being accomplished
0:48:09it's a really big job we need measurable
0:48:12goals that can be set so that everyone
0:48:14affected can see progress
0:48:16measurable
0:48:18goals money and other resources are
0:48:21scarce and so a sensible and well
0:48:23prioritized action plan is vital
0:48:27i know it's been raining and even
0:48:28hailing
0:48:29a lot in the past few weeks but the
0:48:32diablo winds will again be blowing in
0:48:34october
0:48:35it will take time to implement even the
0:48:37most modest of plans so now is the time
0:48:40to start working
0:48:42now is the time to start working thank
0:48:44you thank you
0:48:49next speaker is betty accolic
0:48:59good evening it's um
0:49:02i cherish the opportunity to
0:49:05stand before you
0:49:07as an advocate for
0:49:09the senior community
0:49:14i turned
0:49:1580 last year
0:49:18and i've been living in el cerrito for
0:49:21seven years and
0:49:23i'm
0:49:24dedicated to attempting to contribute
0:49:27to the community in a way that makes el
0:49:30cerrito even a more interesting and
0:49:32vibrant place to live
0:49:35the question is
0:49:37what about this
0:49:38permanent location for the senior center
0:49:40we were buying the library and we told
0:49:42you i had to get out of there
0:49:45and then we're over here with modular
0:49:47units
0:49:49and we're struggling to
0:49:51negotiate
0:49:52parking space
0:49:54and
0:49:56so in relation to
0:49:57seniors and their
0:49:59issues and the ultimate goal of a
0:50:01permanent
0:50:02setting i'm here to initiate that
0:50:05dialogue
0:50:12can you tell me where where it stands
0:50:14what's the status of the thinking with
0:50:17the planning
0:50:18the
0:50:19ultimate goal of a permanent setting for
0:50:21the seniors in el cerrito
0:50:24where is that
0:50:27we we do want to have a permanent place
0:50:30for the senior center but this is not on
0:50:32the agenda so we cannot speak on it this
0:50:35is only public comment
0:50:37okay is there something that i can do to
0:50:39facilitate a situation that leads to
0:50:41you're
0:50:43being open to
0:50:45encountering that goal
0:50:47uh yes you can you can write to us um
0:50:50and we'll and we can talk to you more
0:50:52about it when we're not in the in the
0:50:53meeting
0:50:55very good that's a place to start
0:50:58thank you very much thank you
0:51:01next speaker is al miller
0:51:06good evening council madam mayor and
0:51:09staff
0:51:10i just wanted to make a quick addition
0:51:12to david's talk about cretans
0:51:15living across the street from elsa rita
0:51:17high school on occasion has real
0:51:19benefits
0:51:20several years ago a
0:51:23small tour bus uh drove up to the high
0:51:26school and stopped and a crowd of
0:51:30i don't know maybe 15 or so people got
0:51:32out of it
0:51:33and they all had the same scarf on
0:51:36making a long story short
0:51:38they were the john fogerty fan club from
0:51:41some place in germany
0:51:43they had made their
0:51:45summer trip
0:51:47to
0:51:48visit the places that john grew up in
0:51:51went to school and performed in
0:51:54they were very disappointed when the
0:51:56school that he attended
0:51:58disappeared and the new school took its
0:52:01place
0:52:02but they were pleased that inside the
0:52:05new school there is a museum hallway
0:52:08and going through there and seeing some
0:52:10of the things that happened during
0:52:12john's time etc the president of the
0:52:15club took his scarf off and donated it
0:52:18to
0:52:19the museum and if you go through that
0:52:22hallway museum
0:52:24that's right next to the entrance into
0:52:26the theater
0:52:27on the way out if you look up you'll see
0:52:30it mounted on it
0:52:33they had gone to see the house that they
0:52:36lived in etc but they were disappointed
0:52:38that his old school was no longer there
0:52:41thank you
0:52:42thank you
0:52:44that is that's the last speaker we have
0:52:45at this time
0:52:46all right great
0:52:48next we'll move on to the adoption of
0:52:50the consent calendar
0:52:53mayor if i could remove items 4c 4d and
0:52:574e
0:52:59those people that will be
0:53:01recognizing on those uh matters are here
0:53:04and i'd love to have an opportunity
0:53:06after we pass those to
0:53:08take photographs with them
0:53:12um yes okay so we have pulled
0:53:16the c d and e
0:53:18[Applause]
0:53:20and
0:53:21we will
0:53:22i will then read the other items
0:53:25so a a proclamation of black history
0:53:28month
0:53:30proclamation of
0:53:32the lunar new year
0:53:34and f
0:53:36appointment of members to the economic
0:53:38development committee
0:53:47um
0:53:48g annual payment for el cerrito's share
0:53:51of the west contra costa integrated
0:53:53waste management authority operating
0:53:55expenses for the calendar year of 2018
0:53:58h amendments to the city
0:54:00classification plan and i professional
0:54:04services agreement with urban planning
0:54:06partners incorporated roof adoption of
0:54:08those items second
0:54:11so
0:54:12moved by council member abelson seconded
0:54:15by mayor pro-tem lyman all in favor aye
0:54:19opposed
0:54:20motion carries okay so now we will go
0:54:22back
0:54:23to
0:54:24the items that were moved
0:54:26or pulled
0:54:28yeah i i see
0:54:30police chief keith appear in the front
0:54:32row for some reason so maybe there's a
0:54:35staff presentation
0:54:36i don't know if you want to handle these
0:54:37as one or separate three we're going to
0:54:40handle these as three items so let's
0:54:42hear a presentation on item
Samarano set out what the existing plan already required.
His premise: “non-native and invasive weedy vegetation has replaced the more fire resistive and ecologically stable native species in many places.”
The plan: the El Cerrito-Kensington Wildfire Action Plan of 2017, with prioritized strategies to reduce fuel loads.
Its assignments included public works continuing vegetation management “in the city owned Hillside Natural Area, in parks and in rights of way.”
The plan also had the fire departments “visually inspect every property public and private,” notify owners and achieve full compliance, and hire contractors or CDC crews for public land. His question: “do we have sufficient funding to continue to implement these strategies?”
Paul Duncan, also of Make El Cerrito Fire Safe, welcomed the fire and police plans — “the message is getting through” — and noted the Council had signed off on the plan “as recently as 2017,” so it is “an active document.”
A speaker advocating for seniors asked the status of a permanent home for the senior center, now in modular units, and was told it was not on the agenda and to write in. Al Miller added a Creedence story: a German John Fogerty fan club donated a scarf to the high school's museum hallway.
The consent calendar — Black History Month and Lunar New Year proclamations, economic development committee appointments, El Cerrito's share of RecycleMore's operating expenses, classification plan amendments and an agreement with Urban Planning Partners — passed, moved by Abelson and seconded by Lyman.
Three recognitions were pulled for photographs.
The 2017 El Cerrito–Kensington Wildfire Action Plan, which a speaker notes the Council signed off on, assigns public works vegetation management in the Hillside Natural Area, parks and rights of way, and the fire departments the inspection of every property; the speakers ask whether there is funding to carry it out.
07 A thousand volunteer hours captions 1358–1636
0:54:444c
0:54:46thank you councilmember lymon mayor and
0:54:48council members once again i'm paul
0:54:50keith your chief of police and without
0:54:52me asking them to they've already walked
0:54:54up here
0:54:55so uh thank you for giving me a couple
0:54:57minutes to talk about some amazing
0:54:59employees that the l strudel police
0:55:00department is blessed with
0:55:02first i'll talk about michael olivieri
0:55:04he's standing here in the middle
0:55:07mr oliveira is a student at cal majoring
0:55:10in sociology he plans to graduate at the
0:55:13end of this spring so we're really
0:55:14counting on him graduating because he
0:55:16plans to transition into a role as a
0:55:19police recruit
0:55:20starting in the early summer hopefully
0:55:22with us if everything goes according to
0:55:23plan
0:55:25he's a talented report writer he started
0:55:27with us as a cadet moved into the record
0:55:29specialist position and currently he
0:55:31serves as a community service officer
0:55:33where he goes around town takes police
0:55:36reports enforces parking ordinances
0:55:38helps us at public events helps us with
0:55:41traffic control a number of different
0:55:43duties that help take some of the
0:55:45pressure off our police officers and
0:55:46free up our police officers time to
0:55:48respond to major crimes and progress
0:55:51mr oliveira has a great attitude and
0:55:53he's done a lot to help our agency when
0:55:55the need arose especially in the fact
0:55:56that he's cross-trained both as a record
0:55:58specialist and a cso
0:56:01so we're looking forward to seeing
0:56:04uh cso olivieri continue in his career
0:56:06and expand his knowledge and hopefully
0:56:08take the next step with el cerrito in
0:56:10the future
0:56:11mr oliveira is our professional staff
0:56:13member of the year for 28 his efforts in
0:56:162018.
0:56:18i'm not done yet though
0:56:19so next on the end next to mr olivieri's
0:56:22left we have jerry duda jerry duda is a
0:56:25volunteer with the el cerrito police
0:56:26department and he is our volunteer of
0:56:27the year
0:56:28he's a fantastic example of an engaged
0:56:30community member last year he logged
0:56:33more than a thousand hours of volunteer
0:56:35time with the el cerrito police
0:56:36department so that's like half of a
0:56:38full-time employee
0:56:40he's responsible for carrying out many
0:56:41of our popular programs such as putting
0:56:43out our radar trailers putting out our
0:56:44jamar device he helps with department
0:56:47training special events and all sorts of
0:56:49logistics i really have trouble
0:56:51in my head remembering how we took care
0:56:53of keeping our cars running without
0:56:55jerry around
0:56:56i mean he diagnoses problems he fixes
0:56:59the little things he gets the big things
0:57:00taken care of you wouldn't believe if
0:57:02you have a turbo system in a police
0:57:03department car how many times those
0:57:06things break
0:57:07but jerry stays up on top of it all and
0:57:09keeps our fleet running and he's an
0:57:11amazing person on top of all that caring
0:57:13for his family caring for the police
0:57:14department vehicles caring for other
0:57:16volunteers and department members he's a
0:57:18fantastic person he really is an
0:57:19institution around the station now and
0:57:21this is the second time he's been
0:57:23honored with volunteer of the year so
0:57:24he's an overachiever
0:57:26and lastly we have eddie perales he's
0:57:28here on my left eddie parallels is a
0:57:29police officer with the el cerrito
0:57:31police department he has a big heart and
0:57:33a positive presence both in and out of
0:57:35the police department
0:57:37last year he worked to ensure that our
0:57:38students had safe spaces to learn and
0:57:41also safe spaces to enjoy their sports
0:57:43teams he worked during the day at the
0:57:44school and in the evenings you could see
0:57:46him at football games at basketball
0:57:48games making sure that students had safe
0:57:50places to enjoy hanging out with their
0:57:52fellow students on top of that he's also
0:57:55an explorer advisor and developed much
0:57:56of the curriculum for explorers during
0:57:58the year he's also a citizen police
0:58:01academy instructor he does a lot of
0:58:03other things around the police
0:58:04department other than being one of our
0:58:06lead people in youth outreach
0:58:09he's a creative investigator and he
0:58:11really
0:58:12parlays his connections with the
0:58:15students at the junior high
0:58:17to help solve some significant crimes in
0:58:19our community of note he solved a
0:58:21significant robbery that was part of a
0:58:22series and also a residential burglary
0:58:25through his connections with students at
0:58:26the school
0:58:28lastly officer perales earned his
0:58:30bachelor's degree in sociology with a
0:58:31minor injustice studies all the while
0:58:34working as a full-time officer and from
0:58:36seeing him at work you would have never
0:58:37even known that he was also attending a
0:58:39full load of classes on the tail end of
0:58:42his day so he really is a tremendous
0:58:44worker a tremendous person and adds so
0:58:46much value to our agency
0:58:48on behalf of the police department i'm
0:58:49very proud to present you with your
0:58:52officer of the year your professional
0:58:53staff member of the year and your
0:58:55volunteer of the year from the police
0:58:56department so thank you for your time
0:59:08officer perales is also a world traveler
0:59:11he he went all the way around the world
0:59:12this last summer
0:59:14um so i i told them that they might be
0:59:16asked to give comments but
0:59:19so i'd love to move a proclamation uh
0:59:22pass a motion to approve proclamation
0:59:23commending and congratulating officer
0:59:26eddie perales as the 2018 officer of the
0:59:28year i'll second that
0:59:31all in favor
0:59:32aye aye opposed motion carries you want
0:59:35to offer him some words no no i'll frame
0:59:37some chances
0:59:39go ahead and
0:59:40say something yeah
0:59:43no pressure
0:59:46good evening madam mayor uh council and
0:59:48staff uh first i'd like to say
0:59:50it's an honor to receive the el cerrito
0:59:52uh police department officer of the year
0:59:54award
0:59:55i wouldn't be the officer or person that
0:59:57i am today without my family
0:59:59friends
1:00:00co-workers and the support from the
1:00:03community so i've been with the
1:00:04department since high school as a police
1:00:06explorer and i i can say now that
1:00:08there's no other state i'd rather work
1:00:09for than the city of el cerrito so thank
1:00:11you
1:00:12thank you
1:00:19and and what wasn't said is you helped
1:00:21save someone's life didn't you
1:00:24i did can you say two words about that
1:00:26to us
1:00:28it's a big deal
1:00:30oh yeah last year
1:00:31or the end of the year before uh was
1:00:33dispatched to a man down call
1:00:36he was going into a cardiac arrest from
1:00:38a drug overdose
1:00:40myself another another officer
1:00:42uh began cpr um on him for uh several
1:00:45minutes until the uh the fire department
1:00:47paramedics arrived on scene um and they
1:00:50were able to um
1:00:52save his life so thank you for that
1:00:53thank you
1:00:55[Applause]
1:00:59may if i if i may i'd like to make the
1:01:01other two motions and then we can go
1:01:02down for photos yes excellent
1:01:05i would love to pass a motion to approve
1:01:06proclamation commending and
1:01:08congratulating community service
1:01:10officer michael oliveira as the 2018
1:01:13professional staff member of the year
1:01:16i'll second that
1:01:18motion by mayor pro tim lyman second by
1:01:21council member quinto all in favor aye
1:01:24opposed motion passes
1:01:27thank you
1:01:28would you like to come and say a few
1:01:30words
1:01:33so thank you mayor city council and
1:01:35staff for taking the time out of your
1:01:38busy agenda tonight to give myself and
1:01:40my fellow
1:01:41members of the department some
1:01:43recognition
1:01:44i speak for myself and definitely
1:01:46everyone up here and the members of the
1:01:48department that
1:01:49we hold our profession at the utmost
1:01:53importance and seriousness here to
1:01:55uphold the safety here of the city
1:01:58me being a part-time member and
1:02:01full-time student it's hard to balance
1:02:03and find an equal balance between the
1:02:05two but i'd have to say there's
1:02:08seconding my um
1:02:10my fellow officer eddie perales and
1:02:12saying that there's no city i'd rather
1:02:14work for and no experience i'd rather
1:02:16have than right here with my fellow
1:02:17members of the department
1:02:18so thank you very much i appreciate it
1:02:21thank you
1:02:22[Applause]
1:02:28i'd like to move
1:02:30to approve a proclamation commending and
1:02:32congratulating uh jerry duda as the 2018
1:02:36volunteer of the year
1:02:39i'll second that
1:02:41motion by lyman seconded by quinto all
1:02:43in favor aye aye those opposed motion
1:02:46carries
1:02:48would you like to say a few words
1:02:53well i'm mayoring the city council i'm a
1:02:56person of a few words but i want to
1:02:58thank everybody
1:03:00here
1:03:00in the city i also want to thank all the
1:03:03fellow officers and who have given me
1:03:05the opportunity to do what i'm doing now
1:03:07um
1:03:08i retired i didn't have a big plan i've
1:03:10worked for 45 years worked 12 or 14
1:03:12hours a day and
1:03:14and this has been great for me so um
1:03:16the fact that i only have a thousand
1:03:18hours last year uh i'm going to do
1:03:20better this year
1:03:22yeah that's only working a third
1:03:25i've got two grandkids too that uh
1:03:27helped me out with the rest of my day so
1:03:29i split that up really well but
1:03:31the department has allowed me to do
1:03:33things that
1:03:35i didn't think they'd allow me to do and
1:03:37i appreciate that they trust me thank
1:03:38you
1:03:40thank you
1:03:57okay
1:04:13um
1:04:31oh
1:04:43okay
1:05:00perfect
1:05:11look
1:05:30before we move on to our next
1:05:32presentation i just wanted to report out
1:05:35very quickly from
1:05:37the
1:05:38meeting we had right ahead of this
1:05:40we had interviews
1:05:42for
1:05:43some of our commissions
1:05:45and we have
1:05:47two reappointments to announce we have
1:05:51been chocoy for parks and recreation
1:05:55and mina wilson for the human relations
1:05:58commission
1:05:59and that is the end of my report
1:06:04so next we will have
1:06:07the
The police chief presented the department's annual awards.
Professional staff member of the year: Community Service Officer Michael Olivieri, a Cal sociology student planning to become a police recruit on graduating.
Volunteer of the year, for the second time: Jerry Duda, who “logged more than a thousand hours… that's like half of a full-time employee,” running radar trailers, supporting training and events, and keeping the fleet running — “I really have trouble… remembering how we took care of keeping our cars running without” him.
Officer of the year: Eddie Perales, a school-based officer, explorer advisor and citizen police academy instructor, who finished his sociology degree while working full time and has been with the department “since high school as a police explorer.” He and another officer kept a man in cardiac arrest alive with CPR until paramedics arrived. Olivieri later said “there's no city i'd rather work for.”
Each was recognized by proclamation, on motions by Lyman seconded by Quinto, and photographed with the Council.
From the commission interviews held before the meeting, two reappointments were announced: one to Parks and Recreation and one to the Human Relations Commission.
08 Childcare at the station captions 1637–2107
1:06:08a presentation from
1:06:10bay area rapid transit bart
1:06:13and transit oriented development request
1:06:16for proposal update
1:06:39good evening city council i am not from
1:06:42bart i am
1:06:44melanie minnesota's community
1:06:45development director and i'm just going
1:06:46to kick this item off
1:06:48um
1:06:49bart is here tonight and they're going
1:06:50to be talking to you about
1:06:54future development plans transit
1:06:55oriented development at the el cerrito
1:06:56plaza bart station and steps that
1:06:58they're undertaking to understand kind
1:07:00of access needs and parking needs and
1:07:02but what i wanted to also report before
1:07:05they speak is that to let council know
1:07:07that
1:07:08per
1:07:08your
1:07:102018 mou with bart to undertake a
1:07:13feasibility study for what it would take
1:07:15to incorporate a library
1:07:17into a future tod project i wanted to
1:07:19let you know that we're also underway
1:07:21with g4 the city's consultant who's been
1:07:24working on site feasibility so in
1:07:26approximately april or may we'll be done
1:07:28with that and that's really a technical
1:07:29study just looking at what would how
1:07:31would the two go together um
1:07:33from that time that site feasibility
1:07:35study will be kind of folded into the
1:07:37city's library process and as a public
1:07:39outreach and different engagement
1:07:40happens around exploring different sites
1:07:43this
1:07:44report that we're doing right now will
1:07:45be integrated into that as one of the
1:07:48possible sites and looking at the
1:07:49various kind of
1:07:51machinations kind of trade-offs of a
1:07:53library being at a integrated at a bart
1:07:55station
1:07:56so with that i am going to introduce
1:07:58sean brooks the real estate and uh
1:08:00property manager at bart he'll be joined
1:08:03by
1:08:04charlie reams a senior planner and
1:08:06rachel factor senior planner principal
1:08:08planner with bart to talk also about
1:08:10their planning efforts there
1:08:12and we can take collective questions on
1:08:14all those uh topics
1:08:22oh great
1:08:27good good evening madam mayor uh mayor
1:08:29members of the city council we are happy
1:08:32to be here tonight to present um our
1:08:34bart tod program so along with me is
1:08:36charlie rheem one of our principal
1:08:38planners as well as rachel
1:08:41factor as well a director saltzman who
1:08:44is the bart director on this district
1:08:45does apologize in advance for not being
1:08:47able to attend this evening she was
1:08:49double booked for another bart
1:08:50engagement but she want to let you all
1:08:52know that she
1:08:54is very excited about potential
1:08:55opportunities of tld development um in
1:08:58the city of el cerrito and really moving
1:09:00forward on our tod efforts collectively
1:09:02together
1:09:03so just thought we would just do a quick
1:09:04recap in terms of our tod policy and
1:09:07also our goals just to kind of set the
1:09:09stage in terms of what our overall kind
1:09:11of global mission is is here so in 2006
1:09:15we call it tod 2.0 we adopted a new tod
1:09:19policy which really highlighted six
1:09:21overarching goals or principles uh the
1:09:23first one being complete communities we
1:09:25wanted to really be a regional leader in
1:09:27advancing plan bay area and so we looked
1:09:30at our portfolio of assets our existing
1:09:32surface parking lots and really we did a
1:09:34back of the envelope calculation by
1:09:36setting minimum standards of 75 dus per
1:09:39acre dwelling units per acre and we
1:09:41realized that we could build
1:09:43well over
1:09:4420 000 units on our property and 4.5
1:09:47million square feet of commercial office
1:09:49space by 2040. so we have a very
1:09:52ambitious ambitious and aggressive plan
1:09:54to move forward with that in terms of
1:09:56sustainable community strategy
1:09:58it's been identified in terms of pda
1:10:00areas 23 of the housing growth in the
1:10:03bay area should be focused on our sites
1:10:06as well as seven to seven point two
1:10:07percent of the job growth growth on part
1:10:09land which feeds well into point number
1:10:11three in terms of ridership so as you're
1:10:14aware of there's a huge crush going into
1:10:16the transbay tube san francisco in the
1:10:18morning and so those same trains that
1:10:20enter
1:10:21san francisco full return at 40 to 50 of
1:10:24capacity
1:10:26and so
1:10:26we're being real thoughtful in terms of
1:10:28designing office or
1:10:30really zoning for working with our
1:10:32communities to have office in the east
1:10:34bay so really promoting east bay job
1:10:36centers and through transit development
1:10:39management programs to really effectuate
1:10:41opportunities for people to make that
1:10:42reverse job commute are either stopping
1:10:44in oakland el cerrito pleasant hill
1:10:47dublin other places to really work here
1:10:49instead of trekking all the way to the
1:10:50city
1:10:51testing several value capture tools to
1:10:53reinvest money within our tod program
1:10:56and then transportation choices so we
1:10:58found that people of course who live
1:11:00closer to bart it's a self-selection
1:11:02need or have less cars and so part of
1:11:04our tods really uh promote less
1:11:06dependency on the automobile and more
1:11:09access which charlie will will kind of
1:11:11address or more access to other means
1:11:13which charlie will address later on and
1:11:15then lastly affordability this new tld
1:11:18policy really uh stemmed out of
1:11:20basically the the regional housing
1:11:22crisis that we were facing back in 2016
1:11:24which has gotten even worse over time
1:11:26and so we've adopted a policy that any
1:11:29housing has developed on b on a bart
1:11:31site has to be designated as 35 percent
1:11:34of those units as being affordable at
1:11:36various different income levels
1:11:38next slide in terms of why do we do tod
1:11:41really to assist with balancing the
1:11:43local economy um it's critical that we
1:11:45do a better job at allowing at um
1:11:48really
1:11:48looking at balancing where jobs and
1:11:50housing are
1:11:52together although contra costa county
1:11:54alameda county have done a pretty good
1:11:56job in this respect and done better than
1:11:57their other counterparts in san mateo
1:11:59and san francisco county we still as a
1:12:01region between 2010 and 2015 we've added
1:12:0511 jobs for every one new housing unit
1:12:07so therefore we see the shortage that's
1:12:09illustrated right here this has led to
1:12:12one of the largest housing packages
1:12:14by legislators in california last year
1:12:16to help in advancing some of those
1:12:17housing needs as well as accelerating
1:12:20transit but we're still a long way off
1:12:23from making that become a reality so
1:12:25real all boils down to there's not there
1:12:28has not been enough housing production
1:12:29to really keep up with the demand in the
1:12:31region so as we look at this chart right
1:12:34here we see that the regional needs
1:12:36housing assessment numbers the reach
1:12:37arena numbers
1:12:39have been
1:12:40well outpaced in terms of what the
1:12:42production has been and there's really
1:12:43only one category where we've kept up
1:12:45with what the blue line identifies what
1:12:47the arena numbers were really only in
1:12:49the high income level that we've come
1:12:51even close and that's really due to um
1:12:54having a market rate product that can
1:12:55afford the high construction costs the
1:12:57affordable housing whether it's at the
1:12:59low or moderate income level the missing
1:13:01middle has been difficult to attain and
1:13:02that's due to high construction costs
1:13:04lack of available land or lack of public
1:13:06public subsidy in order to produce those
1:13:08affordable units and so this issue will
1:13:11continue to go on
1:13:12unless we continue to work with our
1:13:14partners such as the city of el cerrito
1:13:16to kind of advance some of this housing
1:13:18production
1:13:19another reason why we do tods is um that
1:13:21we found of course if you you live
1:13:23closer to our bart stations you're more
1:13:26likely to walk bike or take transit to
1:13:28work and so bart looks at all forms of
1:13:31access and so the advancement of tod
1:13:33provides for a greater population of
1:13:35people to really
1:13:37ride bart in the immediate station area
1:13:39the bottom chart really shows
1:13:41the fundamental realization once again
1:13:44previously mentioned that people who
1:13:45live closer to bart are more likely to
1:13:47take part and they're more likely to not
1:13:50own a car or own one or fewer cars so el
1:13:53cerrito plaza is highlighted here in
1:13:54both of these charts as being above
1:13:57other parts of contra costa county in
1:13:59all areas which illustrates how well the
1:14:01city has done to really work towards
1:14:03reducing auto dependency as well as
1:14:06offering different transportation
1:14:07choices
1:14:09just want to give a couple quick
1:14:10examples in terms of several tods that
1:14:13we've developed and worked on in our
1:14:15previous history or our history so what
1:14:17do tods actually look like so if you had
1:14:19opportunity to look at our pleasant hill
1:14:21country across the center station it's a
1:14:22brief example of really showing the high
1:14:24quality public space as well as the
1:14:26walkability this is one of the first
1:14:28instances as well we have a street that
1:14:31serves as an intermodal but it's a nice
1:14:33bridge between our station and the
1:14:34community and all this is funded for
1:14:38funded and developed by our developer
1:14:40and they take care of the ongoing
1:14:41maintenance costs as well but what also
1:14:43is really interesting to note is that
1:14:45there's a parking garage that's wrapped
1:14:47in the bottom left-hand corner
1:14:49by townhome units so that creates a
1:14:50buffer um as well kind of shields the
1:14:53parking garage and then you'll also
1:14:55notice that there's a connection to the
1:14:56iron horse trail so really it provides
1:14:58an amenity for property owners adjacent
1:15:01users and really something for everyone
1:15:03within this community which has helped
1:15:05increase the value
1:15:07for ones who attend or use the station
1:15:09as well as ones that live close by
1:15:12another example to highlight they say a
1:15:14picture's worth a thousand words and so
1:15:16this really highlights the fruitville
1:15:17station which really shows a picture of
1:15:19the east side of the station which was
1:15:21designed and created in the 70s and so
1:15:24as you look at this station previously
1:15:26it really
1:15:27was centered around the car a single
1:15:30occupancy vehicle that shows up in the
1:15:32morning parks and then gets on bart
1:15:34really not
1:15:36interacting well with the neighborhood
1:15:37at all but
1:15:39let's look at it now
1:15:40if we fast forward we see that there's
1:15:42really been a community um outreach
1:15:44effort to really create more of a
1:15:47development that's walkable that's
1:15:48livable and looking at pedestrians in a
1:15:50different light you see a mix of uses
1:15:52here a variety of retail uses
1:15:54restaurants a library a bike station so
1:15:57it's an interwoven community that feels
1:16:00more like a place as opposed to
1:16:03an isolated
1:16:05place our destination
1:16:07and then lastly before i turn it over to
1:16:09charlie i want to really talk about our
1:16:10development process what what steps do
1:16:12we go through at bart in order to
1:16:15kind of spearhead development so there's
1:16:17four steps pre-solicitation which is
1:16:19where we would engage in a variety of
1:16:21stakeholder meetings uh concur with the
1:16:23city as well as our board in terms of
1:16:25goals and objectives of a particular
1:16:27site we've already taken a first step in
1:16:29doing some of that with our ongoing mou
1:16:31with the city of el cerrito and your
1:16:33staff have been fantastic to work with
1:16:34in terms of kind of advancing some of
1:16:36that so we look forward to moving
1:16:37forward with that feasibility study
1:16:40and then we bring back or we concur on
1:16:42primary objectives and goals that we
1:16:44bring back to our respective boards to
1:16:46agree on before we would issue a
1:16:48solicitation so we would do a two-step
1:16:50process we would issue a request for
1:16:53qualifications and so from that we would
1:16:56shortlist uh those proposals down to
1:16:59an opportunity for rfp a request for
1:17:01proposals once those are received and we
1:17:03go through the evaluation process then
1:17:05we would select a developer at that
1:17:07point in time and then over the course
1:17:09of the next few years we would enter
1:17:11into an exclusive negotiating agreement
1:17:13while the applicant or developer would
1:17:15work through the city through the
1:17:16entitlement process we would closely
1:17:19more succinctly define the project and
1:17:22then get to a point where we would be
1:17:23able to enter into an option lease
1:17:25agreement with that developer to move
1:17:27forward for future development and get
1:17:29to the permitting and construction stage
1:17:31which is where we all enjoy the ribbon
1:17:33cuttings and actually seeing actual
1:17:34construction take place
1:17:36so i just want to emphasize that el
1:17:37cerrito plaza is high on our list in
1:17:39terms of future today opportunities and
1:17:42so we'll continue to move forward and
1:17:44work forward with the city in terms of
1:17:46advancing this opportunity here at el
1:17:47cerrito plaza so now i'll turn it over
1:17:49to charlie and then i'll remain for
1:17:51question councilmember lyman has a yeah
1:17:52mr burke before you leave this this
1:17:54process is this would you care
1:17:56characterizes this design build or
1:17:59it's not does you're not designing the
1:18:01housing
1:18:02the developer is would be characterized
1:18:05designing the housing exactly we set the
1:18:07principles and goals and objectives and
1:18:09the developer would work with the city
1:18:11through the design review process to
1:18:12advance um what we would in turn see
1:18:16at the conclusion of the project
1:18:18so in essence the the contractor that's
1:18:20doing housing is a design build
1:18:22contractor to bart
1:18:24or are you selling the property to them
1:18:25and they become the full developer that
1:18:28we would it would the property be
1:18:30offered in terms of a ground lease and
1:18:32so they would design and build a project
1:18:34and we would retain the uh ownership of
1:18:37the parcel great thank
1:18:38you okay okay i have a question
1:18:41well
1:18:42we're gonna do them later we're gonna do
1:18:44questions after their entire
1:18:45presentation so no more just the one
1:18:47yeah
1:18:49i'd prefer not to to hold our questions
1:18:51okay
1:18:55good evening
1:18:57city council members mayor my name is
1:18:59charlie rheem i work uh for bart as a
1:19:02station planner in the station planning
1:19:04group
1:19:04and i'm really concerned
1:19:06you know with how trans-oriented
1:19:07development
1:19:08interacts um with how people get to the
1:19:10station how people use the station and
1:19:12um how transit oriented development can
1:19:15impact
1:19:16um you know the way people
1:19:18really get around el cerrito get around
1:19:19the bay area and how you know bart is a
1:19:21good he's a good neighbor
1:19:23now one of the central pieces that we
1:19:25look at with any kind of change to our
1:19:27station especially with a large transit
1:19:29oriented development is access
1:19:31how do people you know from the el
1:19:33cerrito community from the wider
1:19:34community get to el cerrito plaza
1:19:36station
1:19:37every few years we conduct a detailed uh
1:19:40survey of ridership at all of our
1:19:41stations and here's a el cerrito plaza
1:19:43on the left and system-wide averages on
1:19:45the right
1:19:46el cirillo really is in the middle you
1:19:48look at 38 people walking to el cerrido
1:19:51plaza
1:19:52a little more 34 than the system-wide
1:19:54average of driving and parking about the
1:19:56same are getting dropped off in the
1:19:58yellow
1:19:59uh taking transit and biking
1:20:01so as we look um at establishing more
1:20:04density more mixed use
1:20:07around el cerrito plaza how can we nudge
1:20:09a few of these people who are driving
1:20:11and parking today to more active modes a
1:20:14central goal of bart and the varsitation
1:20:16planning group is to
1:20:17increase the active
1:20:19mode share to stations so that's walking
1:20:21biking
1:20:23to our stations over time and i think
1:20:25transit oriented development provides a
1:20:26really great opportunity to do that and
1:20:28also
1:20:29a great opportunity to leverage
1:20:31investment to make infrastructure
1:20:32changes to make policy changes to you
1:20:35know enable some of these people who are
1:20:36driving and parking a single occupancy
1:20:38vehicle to choose another mode
1:20:42so i'll talk briefly about just some
1:20:44work that we're kicking off this is a
1:20:46first of its kind effort to study access
1:20:49to our tod sites to study
1:20:52and work with the community to really
1:20:54come up with the optimal mix of parking
1:20:56of infrastructure changes and policy
1:20:58changes
1:20:59to support a really sustainable transit
1:21:01oriented development that meets the
1:21:02access goals of bart that meets the
1:21:04needs of el cerrito
1:21:06that really meets the needs of the bay
1:21:07area
1:21:10one of the first steps that we kicked
1:21:12off this month of this study is
1:21:14intercepting people as they enter plaza
1:21:16station
1:21:17handing them a postcard and playing them
1:21:18to
1:21:19you know take a survey online as they're
1:21:21sitting on the train in the morning this
1:21:23was translated into mandarin in spanish
1:21:26and we have over 500 responses to date
1:21:28so it was very successful
1:21:31these are just kind of to tease out some
1:21:33data points that aren't in our wider
1:21:36station access survey that we do every
1:21:37four or five years so things about you
1:21:40know breaking down that 38
1:21:42park
1:21:43um into some people you know 27
1:21:45parking a lot versus 11 or parking in
1:21:48the neighborhood um as you can see the
1:21:4942 walk is a few points higher than a
1:21:52few years ago and uh the 10 bike has
1:21:54actually you know doubled since 2015 you
1:21:56know obviously there's some statistical
1:21:58variation but you know it's a positive
1:22:00move
1:22:02and also things like this you know
1:22:04what's the primary reason that people
1:22:05drive to el cerrito plaza you know say
1:22:07you live in the neighborhood a few
1:22:08blocks away the realities of child care
1:22:11in the bay area means that you need to
1:22:12drive to drop your kid off you know 10
1:22:1415 minutes away and then drive back to
1:22:16the station area you know these are
1:22:18elements you know these questions can
1:22:19lead to choices that we make about
1:22:21future development is there a need to
BART began its planning for development at El Cerrito Plaza.
The community development director reported that, under the 2018 MOU with BART, the city's consultant was studying the feasibility of a library in a future development, due around April or May, to be folded into the city's library site process. BART's district director, Saltzman, was double-booked but “very excited.”
El Cerrito Plaza scores above other Contra Costa stations on walking, cycling and transit access — “how well the city has done” at reducing car dependence.
BART's policy, prompted by the 2016 housing crisis, requires 35 percent affordable housing on its land and aims at “well over 20 000 units” on its property by 2040. Its examples included Pleasant Hill and Fruitvale, where a car-centered station now has “a library a bike station.”
BART's station planner gave an example of a question the survey raises: “the realities of child care in the Bay Area means that you need to drive to drop your kid off… is there a need to investigate some more robust child care options at the station itself?”
BART was studying access before designing, to understand parking need.
BART's goals included more jobs near stations, “value capture tools to reinvest money within our TOD program,” and transport choices: people living near BART “have less cars.”
The process: a developer selected, the project defined through entitlement, then an option lease before permits — “El Cerrito Plaza is high on our list.”
Ridership survey: at El Cerrito Plaza 38 percent walk, 34 percent drive and park — a little above the system average — with the rest dropped off, on transit or cycling.
A new intercept survey at the Plaza, offered in Mandarin and Spanish as well, had over 500 responses; it put walking at 42 percent and bicycling at 10 percent, about double 2015.
Lyman asked whether BART would design the housing; the developer would, on a ground lease, with BART keeping ownership of the parcel.
BART's station planner raises childcare at the station as one question its access study could lead to. BART says El Cerrito Plaza is above other Contra Costa stations on walking, biking and transit access.
09 Thirty-five percent affordable captions 2108–2349
1:22:23investigate some more robust child care
1:22:25options at the station itself make it
1:22:27you know more serving the families in
1:22:29the neighborhood
1:22:32um questions like this
1:22:34really show the need for us to do our
1:22:36due diligence now to discover some some
1:22:38ways to get people to the station other
1:22:41than driving and parking their personal
1:22:42vehicle you know 32 percent of people
1:22:44said if there's no parking available at
1:22:46el cerrito plaza i would have to drive
1:22:48all the way to my destination you know
1:22:50drive to your job in the city drive to
1:22:52your destination um in the southeast bay
1:22:55so we really have to you know our work
1:22:56is cut out for us here we have to figure
1:22:58out ways you know there's a certain
1:23:00percentage of that 32 that is always
1:23:02going to drive that they need to drive
1:23:04um you know that's just you know how
1:23:06they need to get around but there's some
1:23:07people in there through policy changes
1:23:10infrastructure upgrades
1:23:11working with the city working with our
1:23:12partners we can shift those to more
1:23:14active modes
1:23:17um this is an interesting question how
1:23:19would you get to bart if there was no
1:23:20parking available to you you know 53 of
1:23:23people asked this question said they
1:23:24would drive there still as they do today
1:23:26and yet park in the neighborhood so i
1:23:28think a central question in this effort
1:23:30is working with the neighborhood around
1:23:31plaza working with our city partners how
1:23:33to protect and preserve the neighborhood
1:23:35quality around the station while really
1:23:37maximizing and optimizing the use of
1:23:39available parking to best serve the
1:23:41community to best serve people who still
1:23:43need to drive to the station you know
1:23:45while preserving the neighborhood
1:23:46character that exists there today
1:23:50and this survey question really
1:23:51highlights you know the local nature of
1:23:53plaza station you know 62 percent of
1:23:55people who come to el cerrito plaza
1:23:57choose that station simply because it's
1:23:59closest to their home
1:24:00i think there's a really good
1:24:01opportunity here to build on this really
1:24:03robust close-knit walkable community
1:24:06around plaza station you know really
1:24:08building on the infrastructure that is
1:24:10there the you know the people that do
1:24:12walk there today and just you know kind
1:24:13of making some key policy changes
1:24:15working with the city to understand
1:24:17their needs and then what this
1:24:18development what bart can do to
1:24:20you know make this a positive impact on
1:24:22the community
1:24:23so i'll turn it over to sean for a few
1:24:25closing words
1:24:27so once again we're excited about a
1:24:29future opportunity here at el cerrito
1:24:30plaza i also wanted to introduce yvette
1:24:32mccoy who's been working on the station
1:24:34for quite some time as well she's our
1:24:36project manager on a project also
1:24:37available for questions and so i would
1:24:40just encourage you in terms of things at
1:24:42the city of el cerrito that you can
1:24:43continue to do is really support
1:24:46high density land use regulations in
1:24:48order to
1:24:49move
1:24:50this project forward in terms of minimum
1:24:52densities as well as parking
1:24:55maximums and not minimums and just
1:24:57really continuing the process and you
1:24:59have a wonderful staff here who is
1:25:01really engaged in helping to spearhead
1:25:03that
1:25:07that concludes our presentation
1:25:08available for questions great
1:25:11um
1:25:12council member fidelity
1:25:15thank you
1:25:16um
1:25:17welcome bart
1:25:19um
1:25:22we have a lot of place making talk today
1:25:24in our council meeting whether it's
1:25:26parking or san pablo avenue or bart
1:25:28and that's really important to el
1:25:30cerrito because we're really
1:25:32identifying our place and making it
1:25:34better
1:25:37a couple questions here
1:25:39there are three legs of the stool that
1:25:43help development at transit stations
1:25:46art wants to develop el cerrito wants to
1:25:49develop can you talk a little bit about
1:25:51how you feel developers are for the
1:25:54plaza station in general and
1:25:57how is that 35 percent target for
1:25:59affordable housing impacting that
1:26:03from my understanding is that the market
1:26:05is very warm in el cerrito now in terms
1:26:07of development and in terms of speaking
1:26:09with your internal experts here melanie
1:26:11i know there's been quite a bit of
1:26:12housing demand here with the city of el
1:26:14cerrito i think you've reached
1:26:16at least some level of cap on the
1:26:18initial eir for one of the corridor
1:26:20plans as well and so when we um hear of
1:26:24sites of development this this this
1:26:26particular station is on the minds of a
1:26:27lot in terms of where the the future
1:26:30opportunities are
1:26:32in terms of your question regarding
1:26:34affordable housing be able to meet that
1:26:36i think
1:26:37it really comes to working with
1:26:39experienced affordable housing
1:26:40developers so there's a variety litany
1:26:42of funds available and so when you think
1:26:44of some of those larger players that do
1:26:46this day in and day out they know where
1:26:48the sources are they know where the
1:26:49funds are the biggest
1:26:52kind of setback to producing affordable
1:26:53housing is really having a site once
1:26:55someone has a site then they typically
1:26:57can go out and find the money and so
1:26:59having a patient partner like bart being
1:27:01a public agency we can be patient allow
1:27:04a potential affordable housing developer
1:27:06enough time to cobble together enough
1:27:08funds to underwrite that particular deal
1:27:10the 35 percent doesn't scare developers
1:27:13away
1:27:14we issued
1:27:16one
1:27:17rfp and one i'd say heavy rfq last year
1:27:21and so the requirement for the rfp the
1:27:23lake merit one that we issued last year
1:27:25there was no short shortage of interest
1:27:28and at the end of the day the affordable
1:27:30component is probably going to be a
1:27:31little bit over 40
1:27:32and so they've actually exceeded the 35
1:27:35threshold good to hear
1:27:37um all of us here and i think a lot of
1:27:39the cities in the bay area that are
1:27:41served by bart got a very nice letter
1:27:42from the general manager
1:27:44saying they would continue to keep a
1:27:46relation a good relationship with the
1:27:48cities they worked with
1:27:50and i think that came as a result of
1:27:52ab2923
1:27:53passing which gives a lot of
1:27:56new responsibilities to bart
1:27:58to
1:27:59invest in research and develop at all of
1:28:02the stations for all your excess land
1:28:04around
1:28:05transit um
1:28:08where does that put the plaza in terms
1:28:10of the capacity you guys have to do all
1:28:13of that new work are we still the plaza
1:28:15still up there
1:28:17i mean you do have a new workload is
1:28:20that correct
1:28:21that is correct and we're going through
1:28:22right now through our budget process
1:28:25a means to identify resources to tackle
1:28:27some of those new a b 29 23 requirements
1:28:30even before ab9 ab 29-23 el cerrito
1:28:34plaza was high on our list and i will
1:28:36say um
1:28:38you know bearing any other you know i'd
1:28:41say emergencies or projects that would
1:28:42push forward based on other
1:28:44circumstances this is probably our top
1:28:46development site to move forward with in
1:28:48terms of our next rfp but it also is
1:28:50dependent on us being resourced
1:28:52appropriately okay and that's good to
1:28:53hear too because we have had a good
1:28:55working relationship with bart
1:28:57and we don't want bart telling us
1:28:59necessarily what's going to happen here
1:29:01without us working together
1:29:03correct
1:29:04correct yeah
1:29:05basically we take the mantra that we we
1:29:07only want to go where we're wanted and
1:29:09so at the end of the day
1:29:12we have you so we want you even more
1:29:14um so we're not trying to go to any
1:29:16community it's steamroller or push our
1:29:18objectives over what the community wants
1:29:20okay
1:29:22and then lastly i'm very excited about
1:29:24this potential for the library
1:29:26um we and el cerrito are beginning the
1:29:28process again of trying to find a venue
1:29:30for our library a potential venue
1:29:33one being very
1:29:34exciting and innovative is
1:29:37elsewhere plaza you don't have anything
1:29:39like it in the system is that correct
1:29:42there is a library at fruitville
1:29:44probably of a smaller scale
1:29:47but nothing that is essentially built
1:29:49around a library in terms of the concept
1:29:51that has been proposed at least
1:29:52initially
1:29:54when we met with staff well over 15
1:29:56months ago okay we're encouraged that
1:29:58this study will happen and i think there
1:30:00will be a lot of we'll be talking later
1:30:02about parking issues but there are a lot
1:30:03of parking issues and is there a
1:30:06separate
1:30:07arm of bart that works with el cerrito
1:30:09on general parking issues besides your
1:30:12real estate office
1:30:13um i'll have a few introductory comments
1:30:15and i'll turn it over to charlie or
1:30:16rachel essentially um we have our
1:30:19typologies what we identify as a station
1:30:21and so this is a station that's
1:30:23currently a balanced intermodal station
1:30:25and it's been um classified
1:30:28when it as an aspirational station from
1:30:30an aspiration of being
BART explained its affordability target and what it needed from the city.
From the survey: 32 percent said that without parking at the Plaza they would drive all the way to their destination, 53 percent would still drive and park in the neighborhood, and 62 percent use the station “simply because it's closest to their home.”
Its ask: “support high density land use regulations… minimum densities as well as parking maximums and not minimums.”
Fadelli asked whether BART's 35 percent affordable target scared developers.
The answer: at Lake Merritt, “there was no shortage of interest,” and the affordable share came in “a little bit over 40.”
The bigger obstacle, BART said, is a site: affordable developers can assemble funds once they have one, and BART can be “a patient partner.”
Fadelli asked where the Plaza stood under AB 2923's new workload: “probably our top development site” for the next RFP, BART said, but dependent on resources. On the library, Fruitvale has one, “but nothing that is essentially built around a library.”
BART requires 35 percent affordable housing on its land, and at Lake Merritt the affordable share is expected to be “a little bit over 40.” Its ask of the city is minimum densities and “parking maximums and not minimums.”
10 The library as a unique component captions 2350–2599
1:30:31urban
1:30:32with parking station and so it's really
1:30:34a combination of real estate as well as
1:30:36our station planning and forward
1:30:38planning group that would work with the
1:30:40community and work with el cerrito to
1:30:41really figure out what that right
1:30:43parking mix and demand is as
1:30:46not some types of well
1:30:48yeah i think that pretty much covers it
1:30:49i mean i think the library is obviously
1:30:52unique component of this site this
1:30:54potential site and uh you know that's
1:30:56really why like i mentioned before this
1:30:58is really the first time we've ever
1:30:59kicked off one of these tod developments
1:31:01with kind of this initial
1:31:03you know stakeholder outreach of the
1:31:04community crunching some numbers working
1:31:06through some scenarios and
1:31:08developing what
1:31:10you know
1:31:11should be the optimal mix of strategies
1:31:13to make sure
1:31:15any developer comes to this with a you
1:31:17know a history of working with the
1:31:18community and and trying to come up with
1:31:20the right mix of parking and access
1:31:22improvements thank you for starting that
1:31:24my final question is
1:31:26um since you may not have information
1:31:28but we're very excited about what we see
1:31:30now at del norte real construction
1:31:32happening it's a big deal to us i know
1:31:35it's the top three
1:31:36stations for renovation in the system do
1:31:39you have any status report as to where
1:31:40we're at or
1:31:42any news about what may be happening as
1:31:45far as tod around del norte
1:31:48um our central focus right now in terms
1:31:50of el cerrito has really been on plaza
1:31:52efforts but obviously
1:31:54um donald it's the station modernization
1:31:56efforts that are going on right now we
1:31:57find that there's uh a heavy bus
1:31:59intermodal um
1:32:01station exactly a whole different
1:32:03station and so i think at some point in
1:32:05the future we'll look at that but we
1:32:06haven't really advanced discussions in
1:32:08terms of what a potential tod would look
1:32:10like at el cerro don't already at this
1:32:12we've got some development about to
1:32:13happen there so excited thank you very
1:32:15much
1:32:16all right council member abelson thank
1:32:18you um first of all i was wondering if
1:32:20we could get a copy of your report
1:32:23almost definitely uh online preferably
1:32:26that that information will be posted
1:32:27tomorrow supplemental material i already
1:32:29have it and i will make sure it's super
1:32:31thank you very much
1:32:32i'm really interested i actually um
1:32:35was surveyed
1:32:37um at the plaza but i'm a little one
1:32:40thing i'm a little bit concerned about
1:32:41is that a number of the surveyors were
1:32:45working inside the parking lot
1:32:48so i would expect that the answers would
1:32:51correspond to drivers
1:32:55if you could address that our goal was
1:32:57really to capture
1:32:59everyone coming into the el cerrito
1:33:01plaza station at the morning peak so we
1:33:04had the station people at the the fare
1:33:07gates also people
1:33:08catching people coming off buses off the
1:33:10illinois greenway and out of the parking
1:33:11lot so i think that was the goal was to
1:33:14make sure that everyone who came in you
1:33:16know over a series of mornings in the
1:33:18um in a given week was given the
1:33:20postcard so wouldn't it
1:33:25be more statistically relevant to just
1:33:27get people at the fare gates not in the
1:33:30parking lot
1:33:32yeah
1:33:33because that kind of
1:33:34i think we did focus around the
1:33:36faregates and this is a method bart has
1:33:38employed in the past just you know
1:33:39trying to capture the the greatest share
1:33:41of people that we can um entering the
1:33:43station on any given day it's a
1:33:45cost-effective way to do it and you know
1:33:47i think that the method we used we were
1:33:49not trying to you know prioritize
1:33:51drivers or any one single mode user
1:33:54with our survey
1:33:56um
1:33:58because it kind of seemed like it was
1:34:02keeping it the way it what rather than
1:34:04looking at what people
1:34:06might be
1:34:07more willing to do it just sort of
1:34:09looked at
1:34:12the existing modes
1:34:14um and i just because i couldn't tell
1:34:16very well on from
1:34:18looking at it so
1:34:21how do most people get to the um plaza
1:34:24station now
1:34:26yeah it's actually uh
1:34:28i couldn't quite
1:34:3042
1:34:31you know by far the largest single mode
1:34:33is people walking okay
1:34:36and what's the next number i can't read
1:34:38it either next combined 38 of people
1:34:41drive and park of that 38 38 i don't see
1:34:45three it's the second two
1:34:47[Music]
1:34:48they're not in order is that 27 of
1:34:51people
1:34:52park in the el cerrito lot that's 30
1:34:55that says 38 it does doesn't look like
1:34:57it
1:34:5827 plus the second 11 percent of people
1:35:01you're adding two things
1:35:03together okay
1:35:04okay
1:35:05um okay
1:35:07um
1:35:08and um then the next item
1:35:12well i guess let's see here this is the
1:35:14big question i suppose how long would it
1:35:17take before
1:35:18people are moving in
1:35:21with a development opportunity so um
1:35:24you know conceivably the
1:35:25pre-solicitation process is probably
1:35:26about let's say six to nine months and
1:35:29then once we go through a solicitation
1:35:31it's usually about nine to twelve months
1:35:33to select a developer and then from
1:35:35there we typically enter into an ena
1:35:37exclusive negotiating agreement with the
1:35:38developer for about 24 months but most
1:35:41of those are a little longer to get
1:35:42through whether entitlement process
1:35:44project design and so forth and so
1:35:46that's probably not finalized for you
1:35:48know say two to three years and then you
1:35:50would have
1:35:52a development agreement or an
1:35:54opportunity for optional lease agreement
1:35:55and someone to break ground which is
1:35:57probably another two to three years of
1:35:58construction
1:35:59just a total
1:36:00so a total now even if we started today
1:36:03it's probably at minimum you know a five
1:36:05year period somewhere between five to
1:36:07eight years before you would have
1:36:08someone moving it
1:36:09eight i would say five to eight years
1:36:11even with the quickest time of moving
1:36:13forward with actual residents living
1:36:14there
1:36:16okay is there are there ways to speed it
1:36:18up
1:36:20of course if we one way versus another
1:36:23well i mean right now we have the
1:36:24benefit of being in a a nice
1:36:27let's just call it a hot real estate
1:36:29market so the market really dictates how
1:36:31quick developers can move
1:36:32forward and obviously working with the
1:36:34city such as yours that is has transit
1:36:37supportive regulations can help aid that
1:36:39as well but just getting through the
1:36:41process of construction construction
1:36:43alone is probably you know 24 to 36
1:36:45months so
1:36:46those are things that if there's
1:36:47anything we can actively
1:36:50do to make it happen faster
1:36:54yeah i think we're taking all the right
1:36:55steps you're taking all our steps right
1:36:57now with working with bart and having a
1:36:58good relationship um with us and and the
1:37:01city is is looking at ways to clear i
1:37:03think further units to their enr eir and
1:37:06sequa
1:37:07as well and so being able to have a
1:37:09greater envelope for us to build
1:37:12or develop helps us with
1:37:14moving forward with the development
1:37:16sooner
1:37:17but the average time frame just to be
1:37:19honest with you of development deals
1:37:20from start to finish at bart has been 15
1:37:23to 20 years so
1:37:24then having a development move forward
1:37:26in five years and that's some of the
1:37:27legislation that has been out there to
1:37:29really how do we advance development is
1:37:31going to aid in that so be able to move
1:37:32forward in five to eight years would be
1:37:34uh record speed but what we have seen
1:37:36recently just as a side note even with
1:37:39lake meard we went through our
1:37:40solicitation process from start to
1:37:42finish in about nine months and so that
1:37:44was record time for us this last year
1:37:46and so i think we have a pathway to move
1:37:48forward quicker
1:37:50all depending on us being resourced
1:37:51appropriately
1:37:53okay thank you and um
1:37:56the um i find i also find the library
1:37:59project to be an exciting
1:38:02exciting idea
1:38:04i don't know if that
1:38:05[Music]
1:38:07makes it harder to do easier to do or
1:38:10just sort of neutral that way do you
1:38:12have a comment on that
1:38:15i think we're waiting to see the results
1:38:16for the feasibility study to really
1:38:17determine um if that will be an
1:38:19accelerator if it's neutral or if it's
1:38:22going to be a laggard in some shape or
1:38:24form
1:38:25i will say that it's something new
1:38:27obviously it came to us
1:38:29from the city of el cerrito as a request
1:38:31to look at that as a potential library
1:38:33site and so we look at a variety of
1:38:35things obviously we look at
1:38:37ridership being a key component we look
1:38:39at a financial return of art we look at
1:38:41access issues and so we're excited to
1:38:44study the possibilities but we're just
1:38:45not sure
1:38:47how compatible that use will be with
1:38:49with bart at this point in time but
BART named what made El Cerrito's station different, and a councilmember questioned the survey.
BART: “the library is obviously a unique component of this site… this is really the first time we've ever kicked off one of these TOD developments with… initial… stakeholder” outreach.
Fadelli asked about Del Norte, where station modernization was under way; BART had focused on the Plaza and had not advanced TOD discussions there.
Abelson questioned the access survey: “a number of the surveyors were working inside the parking lot, so I would expect that the answers would correspond to drivers.”
BART said it aimed to reach everyone entering at the morning peak — at the fare gates, off buses and the Ohlone Greenway, and out of the parking lot: “we were not trying to you know prioritize drivers.”
Asked how long before people move in, BART estimated five to eight years at the quickest — its average for development deals “has been 15 to 20 years” — and said it awaited the feasibility study to see whether the library would be an accelerator or “a laggard.”
BART says “the library is obviously a unique component of this site” and that this is the first time it has begun a TOD with this kind of stakeholder outreach. Abelson questions surveying inside the parking lot, which she expects to skew toward drivers.
11 Breaking the back of projects captions 2600–3012
1:38:51we're happy to explore to move forward
1:38:52with it
1:38:53okay thank you and um
1:38:55i think those are
1:38:57uh
1:38:58my my real questions the um
1:39:02interest i have is in making you know
1:39:04making it happen
1:39:06and um
1:39:08the um
1:39:10and then having an it that you know
1:39:13that's an attractive
1:39:15project for both bard and for el cerrito
1:39:20and um
1:39:23one of the
1:39:25issues that seems to be
1:39:28i think from my perspective at least
1:39:31a thing that has
1:39:32kind of slowed things down
1:39:35is the it seems like we approve projects
1:39:37really fast here i mean some things have
1:39:40gotten through the planning commission
1:39:43as i like the the big project at
1:39:46del norte
1:39:47that part of it in one meeting
1:39:50which is
1:39:52pretty unheard of historically
1:39:55so
1:39:56that tells me that our specific plan is
1:39:59working
1:40:01so i don't think we have any
1:40:04issues there but if you look around town
1:40:06you see that we've got lots of approved
1:40:09projects
1:40:10but the number of built projects is much
1:40:13lower
1:40:14which makes me think it's the funding
1:40:18at least from what i've heard and i'm
1:40:20wondering if you could give us any more
1:40:23specifics on the way
1:40:25you think that uh we might impact that
1:40:29number so that it isn't
1:40:30doesn't take so much time
1:40:33yeah so it's all and so a lot of it's
1:40:35market driven obviously financing and
1:40:37right now the bay area with it
1:40:40the the climate that we live in
1:40:42construction costs are at an all-time
1:40:43high so a lot of developments are not
1:40:46moving forward because it's really a
1:40:47scarcity of labor and being able to
1:40:51pencil in the ability to afford the high
1:40:53construction costs and so your revenue
1:40:55numbers can only grow by so much
1:40:57before you kind of break the back of
1:40:59projects and so i think really
1:41:01we're in a precarious market in terms of
1:41:03just the high cost of construction that
1:41:04we're living in uh the climate that
1:41:06we're living in and so that's the number
1:41:08one reason i hear from developers as to
1:41:10why they're not advancing and moving
1:41:11forward with projects it's really being
1:41:14able to control those costs which we're
1:41:16still trying to come to grips with right
1:41:17now this market so do you think that the
1:41:20project at el cerrito plaza
1:41:23is
1:41:24attractive enough to developers
1:41:27that they um
1:41:31consider it affordable to developers
1:41:34i think it could be obviously someone
1:41:36has to go through the exercise to
1:41:37underwrite that asset um accordingly but
1:41:41i think it's
1:41:42this is a market here in el cerrito that
1:41:44has strong demand and so i think it
1:41:46would be something that would be
1:41:47received well in the market
1:41:49okay thank you i think those are my
1:41:51questions right now and i'm very excited
1:41:53to have you here presenting tonight
1:41:55thank you for coming
1:41:56thank you councilmember quinto thank you
1:41:58mayor um i'm
1:42:00so happy that you guys are here because
1:42:02i've i've been asking melanie and our
1:42:05city manager we're going to drop by and
1:42:08and speak about this so uh getting this
1:42:10on thursday and finding out that you're
1:42:12going to be here on tuesday that thank
1:42:14you for being here around uh so more
1:42:16than two years ago
1:42:18i spoke to melanie and and our former
1:42:21city manager about this project
1:42:23and it and scott hannon i want to thank
1:42:26him for listening to me and saying yes
1:42:29this is a great idea and melanie looked
1:42:31at it and i specifically went to uh
1:42:35bart directors that i personally knew
1:42:37including nick josefowitz and it was
1:42:39dick josephitz that that reached out to
1:42:42the other bart directors and uh they all
1:42:45supported this idea so but know that
1:42:49that's how it started out and i want to
1:42:51thank scott hannon again for for this
1:42:54uh and and having this actually go
1:42:57through the process
1:42:59and uh for melanie thank you uh and for
1:43:02our staff for looking at this and it's
1:43:04so important uh speaking to different uh
1:43:08architects who have worked at tod and
1:43:12and have designed libraries
1:43:14uh i spoke to the head
1:43:17the the gentleman that was in charge of
1:43:19uh
1:43:20modernizing san francisco city hall
1:43:23who also worked on tod projects in
1:43:26hayward and he was one that said yes
1:43:29this is a great idea and you should push
1:43:31this so
1:43:32so know that
1:43:34i support this
1:43:36and i look forward in working with all
1:43:38of you on this and
1:43:40we want to do this and and
1:43:43and speaking to other developers who
1:43:45have done this in the past
1:43:46uh they say yes this is a great idea so
1:43:49uh
1:43:50so know that uh
1:43:53architects and other developers
1:43:55uh uh they support this idea so i thank
1:43:58you for uh looking at this and i look
1:44:01forward in
1:44:02having the uh
1:44:04the the process begin and to end and i
1:44:06look forward to having you back here
1:44:08with uh uh and let's get this moving so
1:44:11thank you molly
1:44:14mayor pro tem do you have additional
1:44:15questions
1:44:18not really i mean
1:44:19it's a concept at this point um you've
1:44:21laid out of
1:44:23the rough timeline um
1:44:25which is not unreasonable um you've
1:44:28talked about the fact that uh you're
1:44:30gonna look at replacing keeping some
1:44:32parking and potentially reducing the
1:44:34parking
1:44:35which of course is going to be of
1:44:37concern to um as picked up in your
1:44:40surveys that's going to be a concern to
1:44:42the elsewhere to residents that do have
1:44:44multimodal type transits um so i'm not
1:44:48sure i have any additional questions for
1:44:50you at this time
1:44:51other than
1:44:52um let's get you back in here in about
1:44:5512 months and see where you are
1:44:58thanks
1:44:59uh mr woodruff i have a question i think
1:45:02that this project if it does become a
1:45:05project may be
1:45:07in an area where i might have to recuse
1:45:09myself
1:45:10and i was wondering if you could review
1:45:15what that area is and um
1:45:18does it preclude me from engaging in
1:45:21this discussion not in this discussion
1:45:23but um at a later stage um when there's
1:45:26an actual proposal we can review whether
1:45:28or not you're within a radius that would
1:45:30preclude you from participating in any
1:45:31decision making okay thank you
1:45:34um so since i'm not uh
1:45:38hindered at this point i just had a
1:45:40couple of questions
1:45:41i'm very much interested in transit
1:45:44oriented development
1:45:45across the bay area to help with
1:45:48our housing crisis
1:45:50but i have to say that one when i get on
1:45:53bart at certain times i just wonder how
1:45:55we're going to
1:45:57absorb all the ridership that will be
1:45:59created and
1:46:00um could you talk a little bit about
1:46:03you know are there more trains coming
1:46:06like how is that going to be
1:46:07accommodated
1:46:09yeah i think we have a variety of um
1:46:12solutions or really things that we're
1:46:15working on one is a computer-based
1:46:18transportation control
1:46:19communication center so this will allow
1:46:22us to have
1:46:24now we currently have 23 trains
1:46:26that can go through the two per hour
1:46:28this will allow up to 30 trades per hour
1:46:30so that will increase capacity by 30
1:46:32percent uh we're well underway in terms
1:46:34of putting that new system or offering
1:46:37out to the street to bring on a
1:46:38contractor it's still in terms of
1:46:40project delivery it's still probably a
1:46:42couple years away but that will increase
1:46:43capacity on that one end we have new
1:46:46cars
1:46:47if you haven't had the opportunity yet
1:46:49to ride in one of our new cars i think
1:46:50we have 40 to 50 in the system currently
1:46:52right now and so that allows for greater
1:46:54capacity
1:46:56as well each car comes equipped with
1:46:57three doors so from operational
1:46:59standpoint that's one or two things
1:47:01right there as well we're promoting east
1:47:03bay
1:47:04job centers and so rather than having
1:47:06people make that trek all the way to san
1:47:07francisco
1:47:09we see the downtown oakland office
1:47:10market is starting to take some shape
1:47:13with the inking of square and so
1:47:15hopefully people can start congregating
1:47:17to those areas and working
1:47:20or having more jobs down in oakland we
1:47:21recently are work the completion of a
1:47:24400 000 square foot office building on
1:47:26our property at the west dublin
1:47:27pleasanton station workday they'll have
1:47:29their headquarters and that should open
1:47:31in may of this year with full occupancy
1:47:34by august which will provide for another
1:47:362 500 jobs as well we also have an
1:47:39office opportunity on block c and
1:47:41pleasant hill and so those are some of
1:47:42the things that we're doing in terms of
1:47:44trying to
1:47:45increase capacity and kind of relieve
1:47:47some of that crunch we also have found
1:47:49that ones who live on tods are closer to
1:47:52bart they can stagger their work
1:47:54schedules and so rather than you um
1:47:57facing a huge crush because you're
1:47:59trying to get to our bart station and
1:48:00time to get a parking space and so you
1:48:01want to arrive between 6 30 a.m and 7 30
1:48:04a.m if you're able to walk or bike or
1:48:07have alternative means then maybe you
1:48:08start your work day later on at 10 a.m
1:48:11because you you don't have to rush to
1:48:13get to the station time enough to get a
1:48:14parking space and so we we feel that
1:48:16there's a more of a balance we have more
1:48:18people living closer to our station so
1:48:20those are just
1:48:21a couple of things that help to
1:48:23us to kind of relieve some of the
1:48:24capacity concerns as well
1:48:27and then in addition
1:48:29i don't know if this project is very
1:48:31much outlined but
1:48:33i do live very close to the station and
1:48:35one thing i was wondering is if you're
1:48:38putting in some apartments are you also
1:48:40going to be building a parking structure
1:48:42is that usually part of the plan or is
1:48:44it just kind of just those
1:48:47what's already there
1:48:49is there
1:48:50at the single story level
1:48:52so this station has been identified as a
1:48:55urban um with parking so the level of
1:48:58replacement parking or any parking at
1:48:59all is still going to be up for
1:49:00discussion with our studies i think the
1:49:02parking that would be there is parking
1:49:04that would deserve serve the development
1:49:06i think we've um this site is probably
1:49:08going to max out a point five spaces per
1:49:11unit and so there could be potentially
1:49:13some dedicated parking for the actual
1:49:15development for those housing units or
1:49:17the commercial space there and maybe you
1:49:20know in terms of replacement parking for
1:49:21bart riders that's something that we'll
1:49:23have to continue to work through our
1:49:24access studies to figure out what the
1:49:26appropriate amount we've also are
1:49:27looking at several options in terms of
1:49:29unbundled parking and shared parking and
1:49:32so we find that there's adjacent usages
1:49:34that work well with park in terms of
1:49:37you know people need to park and park
1:49:39during the day but obviously those
1:49:40spaces free up at night and so are there
1:49:42compatible uses around the station or in
1:49:45the neighborhood that we could have more
1:49:47shared parking arrangements as well so
1:49:49there's a mix of tools available and
1:49:51that just hasn't been decided yet but i
1:49:53think an investment in a high-rise
1:49:55parking structure
1:49:56those are things that are
1:49:58cost prohibitive at this point in time
1:50:00within our market that we live in
1:50:03and i guess that would probably tie into
1:50:05the to the library because i know that
1:50:08folks that go to the library probably
1:50:09also would want some parking and so is
1:50:11that also being taken into consideration
1:50:14that's part of the feasibility study and
1:50:15part of some of our intercept studies as
1:50:17well okay
1:50:19thank you
1:50:22one more question on the parking
1:50:24are you in discussions
1:50:27with the
1:50:28elsewhere plaza regency
1:50:30owners
1:50:32i think in any way that impacts as far
1:50:35as sharing and those of
1:50:37i haven't been personally but i think
1:50:39some of our staff has and so i think
1:50:41that's a wonderful opportunity part of
1:50:42that
1:50:43going forward that discussion because
1:50:45they're a big component of our biggest
1:50:47economic
1:50:48development center there most definitely
1:50:50we'll reach out to them if we have not
1:50:52done so already i know there were some
1:50:53prior discussions a year passed and so
1:50:56um we will we'll be happy to re-engage
1:50:59that process again
1:51:02thank you
1:51:04do we have any public comments on this
1:51:06we do have one card on this item
1:51:09from george gager
1:51:26good evening
1:51:28i have what i hope might be
1:51:30some interesting news
1:51:33is part of my work and research
1:51:36i've identified
1:51:39within the u.s department of housing and
1:51:41urban development
1:51:42they've just identified
1:51:45a little over 70 million dollars in
1:51:47grant funds
1:51:49under what they refer to as their
1:51:51community compass program
1:51:54and
1:51:55that money
1:51:56goes to
1:52:00municipalities
1:52:02and governmental agencies
1:52:05to do research on things like
1:52:08transit-oriented development
1:52:10and i'll go back to
1:52:13some of the previous presentations
1:52:16disaster planning
1:52:18and a lot of other programs
1:52:21i would encourage
1:52:23el cerrito
1:52:25is in in my personal view
1:52:28at the forefront of creative
1:52:31responsible
1:52:33planning in the bay area
1:52:35but el cerrito isn't a big enough
1:52:37city to get hud's attention
1:52:41however i believe that contra costa
1:52:44county maybe along with a couple of the
1:52:46other counties even reaching over as far
1:52:48as the peninsula
1:52:50could really attract
1:52:52hud's attention and get substantial
1:52:55funding
1:52:57to contribute
1:52:59to the research and planning of
1:53:02transit-oriented development in the bay
1:53:04area i mean bart is already working with
1:53:06vta and they're working
1:53:09to obtain federal funding for
1:53:12uh their their
1:53:14track extensions and whatnot
1:53:17um
1:53:18we we in the bay area have a significant
1:53:21presence
1:53:22in in washington dc
1:53:25um i've
1:53:27seen
1:53:28projects where for instance
1:53:30um under this program hud went into
1:53:33prince george's county in maryland and
1:53:35rewrote all of their planning and zoning
1:53:36regulations and
1:53:38and everything for free
1:53:41so um i would encourage
1:53:45the
1:53:46city of el cerrito to get together with
1:53:48their local partners
1:53:50and chase the money
1:53:53thank you right bye
1:53:57all right does the council have any
1:54:00further questions
1:54:08all right well
1:54:09just thank you
1:54:10yeah thank you thank you very much we
1:54:12appreciate your presentation
1:54:20okay so public hearings we have none
BART explained why development was slow even where approved quickly.
Abelson: El Cerrito approves projects fast — del Norte's in one meeting — so what slows construction?
BART: the “scarcity of labor” and “high construction costs… your revenue numbers can only grow by so much before you kind of break the back of projects.”
Lyman, the Mayor Pro Tem, asked BART back in twelve months.
Another asked the city attorney about recusal, living near the station.
The same councilmember asked how BART would absorb the ridership: a new train control system would raise capacity from 23 to 30 trains an hour, new cars were arriving, and East Bay job centers and residents near stations staggering their hours would ease the crush.
Quinto credited former BART director Nick Josefowitz with rallying fellow directors behind a library at the Plaza station, and thanked the former City Manager for starting it.
He had spoken with architects who had designed libraries in TOD projects elsewhere.
Asked about a parking structure, BART said the site would probably max out at half a space per unit, that replacement parking would be studied, and that a high-rise garage was “cost prohibitive.” It would re-engage Regency, the Plaza center's owners.
In public comment, George Gager pointed to about $70 million in HUD Community Compass grants for research on transit-oriented development, and urged the city to join with the county and others and “chase the money.”
BART says high construction costs and a scarcity of labor are why approved projects are not being built: “your revenue numbers can only grow by so much before you kind of break the back of projects.”
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1:54:23they're moving on to policy matters
1:54:26on-street parking studies which
1:54:28coincides with this i think very well
1:54:31and priority development area
1:54:33implementation
1:54:39staff report please
1:54:42good evening council and uh yeah as you
1:54:45can see i'm melanie mintz the city's
1:54:46community development director and as
1:54:48you can see these items the bart item
1:54:50this item and then our next item
1:54:52do all um overlap interact and inform
1:54:55each other
1:54:57so i'm not going to say much now except
1:54:59for to talk a bit to frame up and then i
1:55:01will be passing on the real bulk of the
1:55:04conversation
1:55:05to alex sweet from nelson nygard
1:55:08and she'll introduce others that might
1:55:10be with her
1:55:11so in adopting the specific plan in 2014
1:55:15there were a couple
1:55:17well there was a promise that staff made
1:55:19as you know that we
1:55:21reduced off-street parking requirements
1:55:23quite a bit and this was something that
1:55:24was recommended through several economic
1:55:26development studies and tod best
1:55:28practices in terms of the things you
1:55:29just heard about
1:55:31which was to really encourage
1:55:33alternative modes of travel
1:55:36but in doing that of course there's some
1:55:38relationship to on-street parking and um
1:55:40el cerrito's in an interesting position
1:55:42and alex might get into this somewhat um
1:55:45but we overall have an abundance of
1:55:48on-street parking compared to other
1:55:49places that are doing active development
1:55:51right now and that's just part of our
1:55:53history of development
1:55:56you'll hear later
1:55:57our residential parking permit program
1:55:59was started decades ago to address the
1:56:02issue of commuter parking coming to the
1:56:04two bart stations and other than that we
1:56:06have just we don't have a lot of parking
1:56:09policy outside of those areas governing
1:56:11how long or how many
1:56:14kind of monitoring programs you'll hear
1:56:16about paid for parking in different
1:56:18areas and parking benefits districts but
1:56:20really we have a lot of parking but once
1:56:22we start to do development then what
1:56:24happens
1:56:25so one of the things that we know we're
1:56:27going to need to do over time is to
1:56:29become more sophisticated with our
1:56:31on-street parking management it's a
1:56:32resource
1:56:34and so we were fortunate and we applied
1:56:37for both grants from mtc and pda
1:56:40mtc pda implementation grant and a ccta
1:56:42pda implementation grant so priority
1:56:45development area implementation grants
1:56:46knowing that while we adopted this great
1:56:48code we still have a lot of work to do
1:56:50to make it successful
1:56:52um
1:56:53later on when i'm doing this what's the
1:56:55other efforts that these grants have
1:56:56funded for example have been uh the
1:56:58siege sanitary capacity fee did that
1:57:01work did the affordable housing strategy
1:57:03the inclusionary zoning
1:57:04um
1:57:06and the recent transportation impact fee
1:57:08so this parking study is our final
1:57:10deliverable actually in our first round
1:57:11of pda implementation grant so we're
1:57:13excited to get to this phase as you can
1:57:15see tonight we're not asking you to
1:57:16actually
1:57:19adopt anything pass a resolution
1:57:22or
1:57:23make any action happen we're looking for
1:57:24directions staff found this very useful
1:57:26we found that parking brings up a lot of
1:57:28emotions a lot of feelings um a lot of
1:57:31thoughts and perceptions and so we
1:57:33thought that having a really good um
1:57:36an updated data set would be helpful and
1:57:38an updated study of what programs would
1:57:40be
1:57:40useful to us in the short term
1:57:42medium term and long term as we might
1:57:45start to experience more parking demand
1:57:47as alex will tell you one other thing
1:57:48that's happening with transit oriented
1:57:50development is people's habits are
1:57:52changing so those that walk to bart do
1:57:55they have cars if they live right at a
1:57:56bart station these are the kind of
1:57:58things that i think we're all learning
1:57:59in the bay area so with that i'm going
1:58:01to turn it over to alex and she will
1:58:03provide your presentation you do have
1:58:05the study in front of you some of you
1:58:07had noted that the page numbers were
1:58:08missing from the ones that you received
1:58:10so we passed out a new one with you
1:58:11somehow that had gotten omitted in the
1:58:14kind of transfer so hopefully you have
1:58:15page numbers to refer to
1:58:17and if you have any questions both about
1:58:19the city's program i should also point
1:58:20out that yvette ortiz worked on this as
1:58:23well our public works department who is
1:58:25more involved in implementing these and
1:58:27we're kind of more of the advanced
1:58:28planning aspect and i'd like to thank
1:58:30aisa shuri who really helped keep us
1:58:32moving on this final product so with
1:58:34that
1:58:35alex
1:58:37great
1:58:45thank you
1:58:57hi good evening
1:58:59my name is alex sweet i am a
1:59:01transportation planner with the firm
1:59:03nelson nygard
1:59:05hired by the city to help with this
1:59:07on-street parking study
1:59:12i like to start with this comic
1:59:15i'll read it
1:59:17america is all about parking the
1:59:19pilgrims came here in search of parking
1:59:22then the settlers moved west in search
1:59:24of more parking
1:59:26as melanie said
1:59:28parking is very much a part um can bring
1:59:30up a lot of emotions and is very much a
1:59:32part of our culture um and so i i
1:59:36empathize with that um and so i like to
1:59:38start with this joke to remind everyone
1:59:41that we're all
1:59:42just trying to make some some
1:59:44manageable improvements to our current
1:59:46system
1:59:47so here's the purpose of the study um
1:59:51for the on-street parking study uh we
1:59:53wanted to do three things first we
1:59:55wanted to figure out how to manage
1:59:56on-street parking in the san pablo
1:59:59avenue specific plan area to support the
2:00:01plan's goals
2:00:03we want to decide whether and how to
2:00:05expand and reform the current permit
2:00:07parking program
2:00:08and third we want to establish policies
2:00:10and programs to manage parking supply to
2:00:12maintain neighborhood and business
2:00:14access
2:00:16this is the overall project process
2:00:19we began with
2:00:21existing conditions and put together
2:00:22best practices for on-street parking
2:00:25we conducted public outreach to
2:00:26understand
2:00:28existing
2:00:29behaviors and
2:00:31conditions and also to
2:00:34understand how people experience parking
2:00:36on street in the commercial areas and in
2:00:38residential zones we developed some
2:00:40initial parking strategy recommendations
2:00:42conducted some additional public
2:00:43outreach to get some feedback on those
2:00:46we also forecasted parking demand in the
2:00:48future as best we could we put together
2:00:50a draft plan and gone through a couple
2:00:52iterations and now we're here to present
2:00:54it to you
2:00:55we've gone through some extensive
2:00:57outreach
2:00:58uh five meetings we met with city staff
2:01:01and the police department we had some
2:01:04stakeholder meetings including the
2:01:05downtown business stakeholder meeting an
2:01:07uptown business stakeholder meeting
2:01:10residential stakeholder meeting and then
2:01:12finally a public meeting where we
2:01:14presented all of our recommendations
2:01:16you can see uh
2:01:18all of those minutes
2:01:19at the website that's linked at the
2:01:21bottom
2:01:26quick parking 101
2:01:28parking affects how the transportation
2:01:30network functions it affects travel
2:01:32behavior and the individual choices
2:01:34people make about where to live and how
2:01:37to travel
2:01:39parking
2:01:40is an economic
2:01:43issue
2:01:45it's connected to the vibrancy of
2:01:46commercial districts and small
2:01:47businesses and it is a key factor in the
2:01:49success of new office commercial and
2:01:51housing developments
2:01:56on-street spaces along the curb are
2:01:57public and in the public right-of-way
2:02:00they are not intended for one single
2:02:02user
2:02:05parking that is 80 to 85 percent
2:02:08utilized throughout the day is
2:02:09considered available enough to provide
2:02:12access without losing other access
2:02:14opportunities
2:02:17what do i mean by that so this is a
2:02:19graphic that demonstrates what it looks
2:02:21like to have 80 occupancy on a block
2:02:24and 20 availability so if you look at
2:02:27the top of the block where it's red it's
2:02:29completely 100 occupied you see other
2:02:31cars that are either double parked or
2:02:32circling the block looking for a parking
2:02:34spot nobody wins on the block to the
2:02:37right where it's yellow
2:02:39there's an abundance of parking anyone
2:02:40can park and maybe those businesses
2:02:42aren't doing as well
2:02:44the block on the left that's green
2:02:46always has at least one space that's
2:02:48available because the idea behind
2:02:50parking is it's for access
2:02:52so when somebody needs to park to pick
2:02:54up their dry cleaning someone needs to
2:02:55stop to drop something off someone needs
2:02:58to pick up their kids someone's going to
2:02:59a movie or to dinner they can find a
2:03:01parking spot so when we talk about a
2:03:03target we're looking at 80 to 85 percent
2:03:08now there's increasing demand for curb
2:03:10use
2:03:11and we need to understand how we can
2:03:12provide enough parking for access
2:03:15and still support residential car
2:03:16storage bikeways pedestrian space
2:03:19loading zones and transit stops
2:03:24so i'm going to walk through some of our
2:03:25key findings in current conditions i'm
2:03:28going to start with the commercial on
2:03:29street districts and then we're going to
2:03:30talk about the residential
2:03:32existing conditions and strategies
2:03:34in the second half
2:03:38here are our current conditions overall
2:03:40a large parking surplus exists in
2:03:42commercial on-street zones with a few
2:03:45hot spots of high demand
2:03:49what that means
2:03:50is it looks like the yellow blocks here
2:03:54with an occasional block during certain
2:03:56hours that are read
2:04:01the study area's on-street parking
2:04:02supply is under-utilized
2:04:06there is a high non-compliance rate
2:04:08among parked vehicles in time-limited
2:04:11spaces
2:04:14there's a wide variety of time limits
2:04:16for the on-street spaces
2:04:19and there is a lack of clear parking
2:04:22signage along block faces
2:04:24i'm going to dig into this a little bit
2:04:26more so here's our methodology this is
2:04:28the priority development area
2:04:30the blocks that are in red you're not
2:04:32intended to read all this in detail but
2:04:33to show you where we did our counts
2:04:36we wanted to look at parking trends
2:04:38around the two bart stations in the
2:04:39downtown
2:04:41and the uptown areas around the two bart
2:04:42stations the red lines are the block
2:04:44faces along which the parking counts
2:04:46were conducted
2:04:47we conducted parking counts by measuring
2:04:50we counted the number of spaces in some
2:04:51cases by measuring the length of the
2:04:53curve of each block excluding all curb
2:04:55cuts
2:04:56we counted the presence or absence of
2:04:58parked cars every two hours from 10 a.m
2:05:01to 6 p.m on a typical weekday and a
2:05:03saturday
2:05:05and then we took note of license plates
2:05:06to track compliance over this period of
2:05:08time so we can understand how long a
2:05:10park cars has been parked
2:05:14so first let's talk take a look at
2:05:16downtown weekday on street occupancy
2:05:20so you'll see the graph in green
2:05:24never the highest occupancy for downtown
2:05:26or on the plaza bart area for on-street
2:05:28parking never goes above 54 and that
2:05:31peaks at 4
2:05:32pm the block faces with the highest
2:05:35occupancy around san pablo avenue you
2:05:37can see there are a couple of blocks
2:05:38that are in red
2:05:40so there are a couple of places where
2:05:42during a peak hour such as 4 pm they're
2:05:44going to be booked 90
2:05:46or more but overall on-street
2:05:49occupancies remained under 50 percent on
2:05:51most block faces throughout the study
2:05:52area
2:05:55on a weekend it was similar the highest
2:05:56occupancy on a weekend was 49 at
2:06:00noon but in general
2:06:04the area remained
2:06:06fairly open
2:06:09now if we look at uptown near the del
2:06:11norte bart station the highest uptown
2:06:12weekday occupancy was at 60 percent that
2:06:16was at noon on a typical weekday
2:06:20and there are a couple of blocks
2:06:21primarily near the bart station that
2:06:23exceeded 85 percent occupancy
2:06:28and these included some of the
2:06:29residential blocks
2:06:35on a weekend
2:06:36they're all green
2:06:38except for a couple that are yellow but
2:06:39all of them are below
2:06:4185 percent
2:06:45when should we ask questions
2:06:48parking duration the average duration
2:06:50for parking uptown near del norte was
2:06:53about 3.9 hours during the weekday and
2:06:553.3 hours on a saturday this is
2:06:57important so we understand how long we
2:06:59should think about having time limits on
2:07:01our on-street parking spaces
2:07:03if the average parking is approximately
2:07:05four hours
2:07:07then we should consider that type of
2:07:08time limit
2:07:10parking violations there were about 27
2:07:13of the
2:07:14counted cars were
2:07:16violating their
2:07:18some sort of
2:07:19parking um law on the weekday and 7
2:07:22percent on a saturday
2:07:26at downtown
2:07:28the average duration was just about two
2:07:30hours on a weekday and a little under
2:07:32two hours on a saturday
2:07:34twelve percent of the cars had
2:07:36violations
2:07:37and then fourteen percent had violations
2:07:39on a saturday
2:07:40so you can really see that there's a
2:07:42difference in the length of time people
2:07:43spend to the two areas
2:07:47so in response to this we've developed a
2:07:49handful of commercial parking strategies
2:07:51that i'm going to walk through their
2:07:52near-term strategies which
2:07:55uh i'll talk a little bit more about
2:07:56implementation at the end but near-term
2:07:57strategies are really looking at when
2:07:59the city can fund and implement these
2:08:01and then long-term tend to be ones that
2:08:03aren't necessary neces right now or when
2:08:09there's greater need in the future
2:08:12so
2:08:14to keep things moving i'm going to just
2:08:15read the strategy and then the
2:08:17sub-bullets below
2:08:18so the near-term strategy number one is
2:08:20to adopt a holistic parking strategy and
2:08:23program parameters with on-street
2:08:25availability target that means
2:08:27establishing a parking data collection
2:08:29program and also establishing parking
2:08:31management thresholds for example the
2:08:33city could adopt an 80 occupancy target
2:08:35for on-street parking
2:08:39our second recommendation is to enforce
2:08:41enforce establish enforcement protocols
2:08:43that target the problem areas so the
2:08:45blocks that typically exceed 80
2:08:48occupancy can be targeted first
2:08:51and implementing performance-based fines
2:08:53enforcing commercial and residential
2:08:55permit blocks with 80 occupancy
2:09:00strategy number three
2:09:02is to establish a default four-hour
2:09:04parking time limit across this specific
2:09:07plan area
2:09:09right now time limits are too short and
2:09:10inconsistent and can be confusing
2:09:13this four-hour timeline there would be
2:09:15time limit
2:09:16variances that the city consider
2:09:19if some blocks needed a different
2:09:21parking time limit and
2:09:23we could also consider establishing
2:09:24employee parking permits where occupancy
2:09:27is low so that employees could park for
2:09:30longer than four hours if needed
2:09:33number four
2:09:34when all of these changes happen we
2:09:36recommend creating a parking
2:09:37communications plan
2:09:39to develop clear and consistent parking
2:09:41signs and then conduct a public outreach
2:09:43program for any changes that are
2:09:44happening to on-street parking
2:09:50for the near turn number five we
2:09:52recommend creating a curbside management
2:09:54plan
2:09:56to assess how curb zones can balance
2:09:58different needs for limited space
2:10:00commercial loading passenger loading ada
2:10:03parking etc
2:10:04and to also match complete streets
2:10:06priorities so to also consider parklets
2:10:09visibility
2:10:10curb bulb outs transit lanes bike lanes
2:10:12etc
2:10:18it's hard to know what parking is going
2:10:20to be like in the future
2:10:21or when the demand for on-street parking
2:10:23spaces will exceed the supply we
2:10:25currently
2:10:27what will happen with autonomous
2:10:29vehicles other modes such as scooters
2:10:31less driving we heard from bart that we
2:10:32understand that people who live in tods
2:10:34already have
2:10:36owned fewer cars and are taking transit
2:10:39more so than driving so
2:10:41trends are happening
2:10:42but we try and do our best to
2:10:45estimate
2:10:47using a shared parking demand model
2:10:49future parking supply and demand taking
2:10:51into account planned development and
2:10:53anticipated changes to the land use
2:10:55types and intensities
2:10:57our analysis indicated that the overall
2:10:59on-street and off-street parking supply
2:11:02as currently planned will accommodate
2:11:04future demand
2:11:05in other words we're not too worried
2:11:08about
2:11:09the demand
2:11:10um exceeding the supply
2:11:13and i think this also validates the
2:11:14flexible approach to off-street parking
2:11:16requirements in the san pablo specific
2:11:18plan area
2:11:20in a typical parking model one will
2:11:22calculate how much parking each land use
2:11:24needs on the left
2:11:26at the peak of their busiest time
2:11:28and then aggregate those
2:11:30our model takes into account how much
2:11:32parking an area needs if they can share
2:11:34parking so that different land uses can
2:11:36share parking to meet their busiest
2:11:38needs and it doesn't go unused during
2:11:39slower hours
2:11:45so we're going to get into some
2:11:46long-term strategies here
2:11:49the first here is to establish a parking
2:11:51district
2:11:54the problem here is that there's no
2:11:55dedicated financing or communication
2:11:57channel for parking management and this
2:11:58is particularly important if the city is
2:12:00going to consider paid parking for
2:12:02on-street parking
2:12:04so with a
2:12:06parking district there could be
2:12:08it would finance parking program
2:12:09management and operations and then any
2:12:12revenues from the paid parking program
2:12:14can be returned to improve the district
2:12:16and this a lot of cities use this to
2:12:17then
2:12:18invest the money back into landscaping
2:12:20and street furniture etc
2:12:22it would also
2:12:24create a public advisory board that
2:12:26would act as his communication channel
2:12:28and oversee those funds
2:12:33next is long-term number seven which is
2:12:36to design and implement a
2:12:37performance-based paid parking
2:12:39management program
2:12:42this would include installing parking
2:12:44meters when on street occupancy exceeds
2:12:46its set threshold such as 80 percent
2:12:49and then the price of those parking
2:12:51meters would be adjusted to meet the
2:12:53adopted target
2:12:55the program works then in coordination
2:12:56with the parking benefit district so any
2:12:58revenue that was generated from the paid
2:13:01parking within could then part of it be
2:13:02reinvested into the district
2:13:07the the um price of parking is adjusted
2:13:10to meet occupancy targets so you would
2:13:12lower the price of parking on blocks
2:13:14with low occupancy and then raise the
2:13:17price on blocks with high occupancy so
2:13:19really based on demand
2:13:20implementation involves establishing
2:13:22boundaries and rates and regulations
2:13:24that are simple and easy to understand
2:13:26it would also include removing curb
2:13:28parking time limits to make parking
2:13:30easier
2:13:31while adding pricing to encourage
2:13:33commercial parking turnover in other
2:13:35words if someone really wants to park
2:13:37all day and pay for it they can
2:13:39but it'll be expensive for example
2:13:42but if you just need to get in and out
2:13:45then you just pay for the time that you
2:13:46need
2:13:50i'm going to move now on to residential
2:13:53parking
2:13:54and the permit parking program and talk
2:13:56a little bit about existing conditions
2:13:57and then get into recommendations
2:13:59the current residential parking permit
2:14:01program that is a little bit of a
2:14:03mouthful i might call it the rpp
2:14:06right now it allows
2:14:07unregulated parking for neighbors with
2:14:09permits and four hour parking for
2:14:11everyone else
2:14:14there are
2:14:15from our last
2:14:17review there were 1223 permits for 741
2:14:21addresses
2:14:23about 100 blocks are currently permitted
2:14:25those are shown in the blue lines on the
2:14:27left is uptown near del norte on the
2:14:31right is downtown near the plaza station
2:14:38annual parking permits can be acquired
2:14:39through an application process with
2:14:41current vehicle registration and proof
2:14:43of residency permits cost seven dollars
2:14:45per year per vehicle
2:14:48and there's a limit of four permits per
2:14:50household
2:14:53there are also visitor permits available
2:14:55that are valid for 14 consecutive days
2:14:58and those can be purchased at city hall
2:15:07neighborhood residents can establish
2:15:08residential parking zones on their block
2:15:11if they are located within half a mile
2:15:14of an el cerrito bart station
2:15:16and if they can demonstrate support from
2:15:1860 of their neighbors on both sides of
2:15:21the street
2:15:22so what you're seeing in these maps here
2:15:24is that's the half mile radius as the
2:15:26crow flies from each of the bart
2:15:28stations so only residential
2:15:31permit zones can be created within those
2:15:34highlighted circles
2:15:42i'm going to dive in now to some of the
2:15:44strategies
2:15:46and i'll address some of the issues
2:15:48too uh strategies eight and nine for
2:15:51residential on-street parking so one of
2:15:53the problems that some of the permit
2:15:54zones that we just saw are too big and
2:15:56there's the potential for
2:15:57cross-commuting what that means is
2:15:59someone
2:16:00who lives at one end um and has a permit
2:16:03can then drive and park next to bart
2:16:05because that residential permit allows
2:16:07them to do that
2:16:09um
2:16:10and so we recommend creating smaller
The community development director framed the study: the 2014 specific plan had cut off-street parking requirements, and the city would need “to become more sophisticated with our on-street parking management.”
The methodology: curb length measured block by block, parked cars counted “every two hours from 10 a.m. to 6 p.m.” on a weekday and a Saturday, with license plates noted to track overstays.
Findings: downtown weekday on-street occupancy never went above 54 percent; uptown near Del Norte it peaked at 60 percent, with a few blocks near the station over 85. Average stays were about 3.9 hours uptown and two hours downtown; 27 percent of counted cars uptown and 12 percent downtown were in violation on a weekday.
A problem named: residential permits allow “cross-commuting” — “someone who lives at one end and has a permit can then drive and park next to BART.”
The recommendation: “smaller, more context-sensitive residential permit zones.”
And allowing permit programs beyond the half-mile around stations.
The framing: “parking brings up a lot of emotions… feelings… perceptions,” so an updated data set would help.
The study held business stakeholder meetings for downtown and uptown, a residential meeting and a public meeting.
Recommendations included time-limit variances, employee parking permits where occupancy is low, and a parking communications plan with consistent signs.
Longer term, a parking benefit district would return meter revenue to the area — “landscaping and street furniture” — with a public advisory board.
The permit program today: 1,223 permits for 741 addresses on about 100 blocks, at $7 a year, available only within half a mile of a BART station with the support of 60 percent of neighbors.
The study proposes smaller residential permit zones because large ones allow “cross-commuting”: a resident with a permit at one end can drive and park next to BART.
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2:16:12more context-sensitive residential
2:16:14permit zones
2:16:16um and also modifying multi-family
2:16:18housing on-street permit parking
2:16:20policies
2:16:22strategy number nine would also allow
2:16:24residential permit program
2:16:27beyond the half-mile from the bart
2:16:28station
2:16:30in other words you can establish a
2:16:31parking permit
2:16:33zone on your block
2:16:35further out
2:16:36from the half mile
2:16:38that doesn't mean that it's needed right
2:16:40now it just allows for it in case it's
2:16:43needed in the future
2:16:50strategy number 10 is to add a parking
2:16:52occupancy requirement to the parking
2:16:54permit petition process there's a lot of
2:16:55peas here so right now as it stands you
2:16:58have to be in the half mile radius from
2:17:00the bart station and you have to have 60
2:17:01percent of local support
2:17:03we also recommend adding another
2:17:06criterion to that and that is um
2:17:09is that adding
2:17:11you would need to do a
2:17:12data collection to see that your
2:17:15the parking occupancy on your block is
2:17:17at least for example 80 full so you
2:17:20couldn't just establish a parking permit
2:17:22zone on your block
2:17:23and even when you have an abundant of
2:17:25parking
2:17:27abundance
2:17:32right now the current permit fee at
2:17:34seven dollars per year doesn't cover the
2:17:37program's cost
2:17:38we recommend setting the permit prices
2:17:40to fully recover the program's cost
2:17:43the price cannot per state law the price
2:17:46cannot exceed the program costs so this
2:17:48is not necessarily about revenue
2:17:51but we understand that with these
2:17:52changes there will be some increase in
2:17:54for enforcement and administrative
2:17:56changes that will increase the cost of
2:17:57the program
2:17:59just for
2:18:00understanding
2:18:02some other cities for the cost of an
2:18:04individual parking permit
2:18:06berkeley is 66.
2:18:09richmond is 20.
2:18:10hayward is 25 orinda is 40.
2:18:14lafayette is 51 and walnut creek is 20.
2:18:21strategy number 12
2:18:23there's a concern that there are more
2:18:24permits given than there is curb space
2:18:26available
2:18:27there's an opportunity to consider
2:18:29updating the residential permit cap so
2:18:31right now it's four per household
2:18:33and there are a couple of options one is
2:18:35to do
2:18:36graduated cost for multiple permits for
2:18:38example the first one's a dollar the
2:18:40second one's two dollars the third one's
2:18:42three dollars
2:18:43we can also consider reducing the permit
2:18:45cap
2:18:46um
2:18:48and then allowing that cap to be
2:18:49appealed during certain conditions
2:18:52and finally the city can create a policy
2:18:54to address parking permits for adus
2:18:57perhaps to include those within the
2:18:58parking permit cap
2:19:02strategy number 13
2:19:05this is about
2:19:06visitor permits right now a 14 day guest
2:19:08permit doesn't quite meet needs and is a
2:19:10little bit cumbersome so we recommend
2:19:12updating the guest parking permit
2:19:14program to first offer low-cost single
2:19:16day passes for example just a dollar i
2:19:18think that berkeley does something
2:19:19similar
2:19:21and then also consider offering
2:19:23caregiver permits so if someone for
2:19:24example is taking care of a sick family
2:19:27member or even child care and needs to
2:19:29come multiple days per week they sort of
2:19:32need to find a place to fit in
2:19:35especially if there's not a place to
2:19:36park in the driveway
2:19:40finally the city provides essentially
2:19:42free parking to bart commuters as you
2:19:44just heard in the previous presentation
2:19:46i think maybe it was 11 to park in
2:19:48residential zones
2:19:50to take bart to work
2:19:53and we recommend that there's an
2:19:54opportunity to charge bart commuters for
2:19:56on-street parking
2:19:58so there are three options and these are
2:20:00and or options one is you can create a
2:20:02bart commuter permit similar to a
2:20:04residential permit that you would charge
2:20:05them per year
2:20:07the second is you can install parking
2:20:09meters on some of the blocks that are
2:20:11near the bart station
2:20:13and the third is you could use a pay by
2:20:15phone to charge for parking
2:20:23the implementation schedule
2:20:25we recommend
2:20:27short-term programs can be integrated
2:20:29into existing programs and implemented
2:20:31with existing staff
2:20:33in the first year we recommend these
2:20:35sets of strategies
2:20:36adopting a parking policy and program
2:20:38parameters
2:20:40establishing parking enforcement
2:20:41protocols establishing new time and user
2:20:44parking regulations
2:20:46excuse me creating a parking
2:20:47communications package adding occupancy
2:20:50requirements to the parking permit
2:20:52setting permitting prices to recover the
2:20:54program costs
2:20:55revising the residential permit cap and
2:20:57updating visitor permits
2:21:02the general approach here is for
2:21:03strategies and programs to be
2:21:04implemented sequentially over time as
2:21:06conditions warrant
2:21:08this allows one staff to lead parking
2:21:10rollout in a coordinated fashion and
2:21:11additional stuff to be added as needed
2:21:13as the program grows and res revenues
2:21:15are developed
2:21:17additional short-term programs can be
2:21:19implemented with this
2:21:20existing staff in year two
2:21:22create a curbside management policy
2:21:24revised residential permit zones
2:21:26and allow
2:21:27permit zones beyond the half mile from
2:21:29bart
2:21:32an additional staff will be needed as
2:21:33the program goes for
2:21:35some of the
2:21:36longer term strategies
2:21:38including establishing a parking
2:21:40benefits district implementing a
2:21:41performance-based paid parking
2:21:43management program and establishing bart
2:21:45commuter park permit fees
2:21:49the final thing that i want to end on is
2:21:51the reason why we were doing this which
2:21:52is
2:21:53to help meet the san pablo avenue
2:21:56specific plan goals
2:21:57we want to
2:21:59believe it or not parking has a big role
2:22:01in all of these we want to strengthen a
2:22:03sense of place there it is again tonight
2:22:05we want to ensure return on investment
2:22:07we want to encourage practical and
2:22:09market-friendly development
2:22:11we want to enhance and humanize the
2:22:13public realm
2:22:15catalyze mode shift
2:22:17and support new businesses new housing
2:22:19and multimodal transportation
2:22:22on commercial streets we want to make
2:22:23finding a parking space easy and
2:22:25convenient when you need to drive
2:22:27and for neighborhood streets we want to
2:22:29minimize commuter and commercial
2:22:30encroachment and manage the increased
2:22:32demand and limited current space
2:22:35that's it thank you
2:22:37thank you very much
2:22:39a question from the council
2:22:41councilman yes thank you mayor
2:22:44i have a couple questions i live uh
2:22:47in the
2:22:48near about a half a half mile from the
2:22:52del norte bart station near canyon park
2:22:54on avenue and
2:22:58we have
2:22:59one part of the street
2:23:02with residential permits permits and the
2:23:05other street does not have that and that
2:23:07goes up a half a block
2:23:09um we're now seeing uh bart riders uh
2:23:13park on our street now and and they're
2:23:16staying there and then we get long time
2:23:19people going on vacation for the weekend
2:23:21and they park on our street
2:23:23so um what what do you think in a
2:23:26situation like that what should a street
2:23:29look into and what should the city do to
2:23:33prevent that or or to work with them to
2:23:36see what uh so residents uh uh will not
2:23:40be upset about that and and they'll be
2:23:42able to find parking for their own near
2:23:44their own home that's a great question
2:23:46and one that we heard a lot during
2:23:48public outreach someone once said that
2:23:50um they regularly saw someone park on
2:23:52the neighborhood street
2:23:54and and to go to the airport because it
2:23:57was cheaper to get a ticket than to pay
2:23:59for long-term parking we're like okay
2:24:01that's something that needs to be
2:24:03addressed and i think in your situation
2:24:05right now the permit
2:24:07is usually just for one side of the
2:24:09street and then therefore the other side
2:24:10is unregulated and i think there's
2:24:12opportunity here to make both sides
2:24:14permit zones
2:24:15um and so that they would both uh if if
2:24:19they
2:24:19if uh the city kind of moves forward
2:24:22with these recommendations then um the
2:24:24permit process would then uh look at
2:24:27occupancy and and also nearby
2:24:31neighborhood support okay thank you
2:24:34councilmember abelson yeah um just sort
2:24:36of following up on that last comment as
2:24:39i remember it i was around actually when
2:24:42we set up the most current version
2:24:45of the
2:24:47neighborhood parking where you can have
2:24:49where one side is unregulated there's a
2:24:52caveat in that which says that and i
2:24:54think it might address this situation
2:24:57you know or maybe we just said that but
2:24:59the um
2:25:01if a certain percent of the neighbors
2:25:04vote on it
2:25:05then they can make both
2:25:08sides
2:25:10uh
2:25:11you know more neighborhood friendly
2:25:14shall we say
2:25:15so that's already that's not anything we
2:25:18would have to
2:25:20change to make it happen
2:25:22if it's within the um
2:25:24half mile
2:25:26uh
2:25:27radius
2:25:29um
2:25:30[Music]
2:25:31am i correct
2:25:32that's the way i remember it
2:25:35i may not have stated it exactly right
2:25:38i think that's correct um the public
2:25:40works director is here as well as you
2:25:42can
2:25:42see in this we are encouraging that to
2:25:44continue but also adding the occupancy
2:25:46so it's not just
2:25:48two blocks getting permitted and really
2:25:50tying up
2:25:51parking when they're not even fully
2:25:53occupied so we're looking at making sure
2:25:55that it's both sixty percent of your
2:25:56neighbor pointing out ex the existence
2:25:58that's right system does that we don't
2:26:00have to make any changes whatsoever
2:26:03to do that
2:26:05that's great to know because our our
2:26:06neighbors my neighbors on my street had
2:26:09no idea so now they know thank you so i
2:26:11so i so that that's why i brought it up
2:26:13actually um the the thing that i am
2:26:17that i started out with as i started
2:26:20reading this report was the comment
2:26:23um that made it look to me like we don't
2:26:25have a problem the comment that we're
2:26:27less than 50 percent
2:26:3050 less than 50 percent of our parking
2:26:33is
2:26:35used
2:26:36approximately
2:26:39basically on most streets at all times
2:26:44which
2:26:44which leads me to wonder why do we want
2:26:47to look at this in any more detail
2:26:50if we don't have a problem
2:26:52why are we wanting to fix it and i think
2:26:55that the answer lies into this sort of
2:26:58takes you one step and then takes you
2:27:00further into the and then you we go
2:27:02further into this but nowhere in here do
2:27:05i say any see anything
2:27:08about transit and the role for transit
2:27:11it's almost as though it didn't exist
2:27:14in fact i i don't think i found any
2:27:16reference
2:27:17to transit and encouraging people to use
2:27:20transit rather than
2:27:23cars and
2:27:24things like our climate action plan
2:27:27and it looks to me like this would
2:27:30encourage people to drive cars
2:27:32and therefore have a negative impact on
2:27:35our climate action plan but i do i don't
2:27:38remember seeing any reference
2:27:40in here
2:27:41to that
2:27:43aspect of it so
2:27:45um i think i could speak to that so
2:27:46there's a couple things remember this is
2:27:48traveling along with the specific plan
2:27:50the active transportation plan the urban
2:27:53greening plan and many other items this
2:27:55one is specifically looking at parking
2:27:57and one of the things it recognizes i
2:27:59think
2:28:00i don't know if this number's been
2:28:01updated but when we did our eir for the
2:28:03specific plan uh we assumed that even if
2:28:05we did all of these great things we
2:28:07would probably see about a seven percent
2:28:09mode shift and you've probably seen the
2:28:10headlines over the past couple of days
2:28:12that have said even in san francisco the
2:28:13car still rains
2:28:16so the specific plan did definitely
2:28:18recognize and support the climate action
2:28:20plan in reducing off-street parking
2:28:22requirements significantly and we'll
2:28:24talk about in the next item but we're
2:28:25seeing
2:28:26you know most of the development
2:28:28projects are are bringing in less than
2:28:30one space
2:28:31per
2:28:32development per residential and very
2:28:35little to known for commercial so i
2:28:37think all and then similarly you just
2:28:39heard alex say one of the things we're
2:28:41looking at is making sure that there's
2:28:43adequate um
2:28:45you know that we're managing our curb
2:28:46space so i think when a vet speaks later
2:28:48during the specific plan of course
2:28:51um
2:28:52adding more pedestrian bulb outs meeting
2:28:54more new safety guidelines for striping
2:28:56near driveways on the space on san pablo
2:28:58avenue a lot of things are going to
2:29:00potentially reduce some of the on-street
2:29:02parking but we also hear from businesses
2:29:04and others and i think we all
2:29:06those of us uh who fit into that bar
2:29:08chart there who drive more than we want
2:29:10to sometimes for reasons like kids and
2:29:12other things still are used still are
2:29:14parking so we really in the specific
2:29:16plan and in the study wanted to
2:29:17recognize that supporting small
2:29:19businesses
2:29:21was people still drive we still want i i
2:29:24didn't see these numbers though is
2:29:26supporting that as being an issue when
2:29:29it's less i mean at the beginning of
2:29:31this report the verbal report
2:29:34we heard that um in gen something like
2:29:38in general and we use less than 50 and
2:29:42and
2:29:42anything under 80 is totally adequate
2:29:47exactly so that's looking partly to just
2:29:49kind of a long way to go
2:29:51right and as you'll hear later tonight
2:29:53we've approved 1500 new housing units um
2:29:56i haven't done a total of the i did do a
2:29:58total of the parking we can look so this
2:30:00really we're not looking to make any
2:30:02changes right now and i don't think this
2:30:03is supposed to be
2:30:04driver inducing it's not supposed to be
2:30:07a car like it's um
2:30:11it would encourage us to
2:30:16increase our parking
2:30:18requirements
2:30:20and things like that and um
2:30:23it's just
2:30:25it feels like it has action items i even
2:30:27heard those words said
2:30:29um
2:30:30to clarify what you said yeah but then
2:30:33after that i heard it said action you
2:30:35know things as though they were action
2:30:38items rather than waiting for a um
2:30:42issue to come up
2:30:44uh that didn't have a solution like the
2:30:47one that council member
2:30:49quinto brought up i think already has a
2:30:52solution without changing anything
2:30:56other than the neighbors collecting
2:30:58signatures which usually neighbors are
2:31:00pretty good at
2:31:01um
2:31:02and um
2:31:04the um
2:31:06you know so i it just feels like it's
2:31:08very this is a very action oriented
2:31:10presentation as opposed to saying look
2:31:14we're only using
2:31:16the other way it could be stated is to
2:31:18say
2:31:19wow we're only we're using less than 50
2:31:22percent
2:31:23of the
2:31:24available parking
2:31:26and to me it's a justification for not
2:31:29charging for park not it's to me it's a
2:31:31justification
2:31:33for not putting in parking meters in
2:31:35front of businesses maybe i think it
2:31:37would be
2:31:38that's right so just a sort of thing but
2:31:40yet i heard references to putting in
2:31:42parking meters uh so just to reiterate
2:31:44um two things one the long-term things
2:31:47you heard were definitely
2:31:49long-term
2:31:50this is really advanced planning um so
2:31:52that it does
2:31:55so not the entire thing so some of it is
2:31:58also responding to current complaints so
2:31:59we know that public works here is for
2:32:01example in the junction neighborhood
2:32:03that there's a lot of that cross
2:32:04commuting going on where the zones are
2:32:05large so people are driving to park
2:32:07closer to bart and filling up those
2:32:10neighborhoods as you saw from the data
2:32:11we're not seeing a lot of neighborhoods
2:32:12filled up
2:32:13he also saw that we're not doing
2:32:15anything immediately but we felt that
2:32:16having a common understanding common
2:32:18kind of
2:32:19language to understand parking
2:32:22but there uh we agree with you that if
2:32:25there's something like well i can tell
2:32:27you a flip side so if you say there's an
2:32:29hour parking so if there's only 50
2:32:31percent um utilized we can agree with
2:32:33you we might not need to do something
2:32:35however if one of the things that we
2:32:37kind of laugh about there's our parking
2:32:39in some areas where there's 90-minute
2:32:42yoga classes and
2:32:44the ability to go run and buy a rake
2:32:47for example or to go meet a friend for a
2:32:49drink and you can't park there so we
2:32:51also see that potentially is
2:32:52underutilized and maybe take down the
2:32:54signs though maybe well so we talked
2:32:56about or making it four hours because if
2:32:57we take down the sides completely
2:32:59so so these are the strategies that
2:33:01we're looking at
2:33:02in terms of i just want to correct
2:33:04something you said in the beginning with
2:33:06you were just speaking that we were
2:33:07looking at increasing parking we're
2:33:09really looking at managing unlimited
2:33:10supply curb curb space is not going to
2:33:13increase elections yeah so we we are not
2:33:15looking but but
2:33:17when we do specific plan hearings on the
2:33:19projects
2:33:21we still do get people who come and say
2:33:23what are you going to do about parking
2:33:25this helps us answer that question so
2:33:27partly this was to give us a set of
2:33:28information as we go forward with all of
2:33:30our other policies and tod that relates
2:33:33to parking
2:33:35and so i think you could see and it was
2:33:36to make our parking program better but
2:33:37not to do much
2:33:39dramatic
2:33:40until we actually have an issue but we
2:33:43don't have for example a policy that
2:33:45tells us that 80 threshold is a is a
2:33:49city goal
2:33:50um so
2:33:51to me we would want to wait until
2:33:54we're closer to having those things
2:33:55happen and
2:33:57i mean at minimum i would think we would
2:33:59reevaluate
2:34:01such time as we think we're having
2:34:03[Music]
2:34:04a problem now i didn't hear
2:34:08anything at all here
2:34:11tonight
2:34:12about the one thing i get a lot of
2:34:15complaints about
2:34:17and that's very near here at the senior
2:34:20center
2:34:21i would say i get more than a complaint
2:34:23a week
2:34:25about the lack of parking for the um
2:34:29um
2:34:31the lunch or the lunch program
2:34:34drivers you know they're dropping i
2:34:36don't know if they're dropped they're
2:34:37probably doing both dr somebody's
2:34:38dropping off the food
2:34:41for the for the meals program and
2:34:42somebody's picking it up to take it out
2:34:44to
2:34:46people who can't get out of their house
2:34:49and i get lots
2:34:50of complaints about that
2:34:53that there's no place for them to park
2:34:55and they want to in some cases when
2:34:58they're doing this
2:34:59the larger transfer of um
2:35:02meals
2:35:03uh
2:35:04they're they're wanting uh some place
2:35:07that they can park
2:35:09close up because they can't haul the
2:35:11stuff physically it's too hard
2:35:14but i actually didn't um
2:35:17see that in here i don't know if it was
2:35:19because it was
2:35:21perhaps what i would call a little
2:35:23obscure
2:35:24but it's um in in my world of getting
2:35:28phone calls and emails
2:35:31it's not obscure at all
2:35:33so a couple things we didn't look at
2:35:35every block so we did focus on the ones
2:35:37that we knew were more likely and felt
2:35:39that some of the uh learning that we did
2:35:41in this process could translate
2:35:43what i would imagine they could do there
2:35:45and i've seen that when i go to the
2:35:46chamber luncheon that it's crowded there
2:35:48um el sweden royale does have a parking
2:35:50lot so they could decide to keep a
2:35:52couple spaces during those key hours
2:35:54available or i could we could encourage
2:35:56them also to call royal i'm talking
2:35:58about next to the
2:36:00church next to the far police station so
2:36:03whichever place it is if they have i
2:36:05don't know if they have a parking lot
2:36:06and could do that and then i was going
2:36:08to ask
2:36:08then also
2:36:10public works does accept requests
2:36:11sometimes for time like 15-minute type
2:36:14drop-off zones so i'm going to pass it
2:36:15on
2:36:17good evening council members yvette
2:36:19ortiz city's public works director just
2:36:22to respond to that i think recently we
2:36:24did change the parking time limit on san
2:36:27pablo avenue in front of the
2:36:30el cerrito midtown activity center to be
2:36:32four hours more in line with the need of
2:36:35the patrons of the ablett center they
2:36:38don't stay there for one or two hours
2:36:39which is the prior time limit so we
2:36:41extended it so some of the
2:36:43recommendations in this study right now
2:36:45are consistent with increasing the time
2:36:47limit to support various uses along san
2:36:49pablo avenue we can do that
2:36:52as a
2:36:54implementation of the midtown
2:36:56activity center
2:37:00rather than anything i mean it's just a
2:37:02very specific
2:37:03thing
2:37:04but i'm like i say i've gotten a lot of
2:37:07complaints about it because people are
2:37:10you know considering
Abelson questioned the study's premise and omission.
Her reading: most streets were used “approximately… at all times” below capacity, “which leads me to wonder why… if we don't have a problem, why are we wanting to fix it.”
And the gap: “nowhere in here… anything about transit and the role for transit. It's almost as though it didn't exist.”
She raised volunteers delivering food who could no longer park close enough to unload — “considering no longer volunteering.”
The public works director, Yvetteh Ortiz, said she could again offer the senior center marked on-site loading or look at street loading; Abelson preferred handling such cases one location at a time rather than “blanketing an area.”
The study also named the free ride: “the city provides essentially free parking to BART commuters,” and recommended an opportunity to charge them.
Caregivers who visit several days a week need somewhere to park, one of the cases permits must accommodate.
Quinto described a street near del Norte where one side has permits and the other not: “we're now seeing BART riders park on our street,” and weekend travellers leave cars for days.
The director answered that the plan's EIR assumed only about a 7 percent mode shift, that most new projects bring under one space per unit, and that 1,500 new housing units had been approved; the study was a common reference, not a push to raise parking requirements.
Abelson objected that the report read like “action items” when there was no 80 percent occupancy goal: “we would want to wait until… we're having a problem.”
Abelson notes that most streets are below half full and that the study never mentions transit or the climate action plan: “it's almost as though it didn't exist.” She also relays complaints from senior meal-program volunteers who cannot park close enough to unload.
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2:37:11no longer volunteering because they
2:37:14it you know it's a physical problem
2:37:17of being able to
2:37:19haul the stuff whatever you know the
2:37:21food
2:37:23but
2:37:24what about
2:37:27are they making accommodations
2:37:29because i know i've gotten complaints
2:37:30really recently like probably last week
2:37:34the
2:37:35for the
2:37:36people who
2:37:38bring the food in
2:37:40i think it's bring the food in
2:37:42and
2:37:43i've never seen this actually happening
2:37:44but
2:37:45one way or the other but they bring the
2:37:47food in
2:37:49to
2:37:49for the meal program that occurs at the
2:37:51center
2:37:52so i've spoken to the center staff about
2:37:55what if they would like to mark some of
2:37:57the on-site parking for loading and
2:37:59unloading and when i had spoken to them
2:38:01before they weren't
2:38:03they did not want to do that at that
2:38:04time but i can reach out to them again
2:38:06and see if based on their current needs
2:38:08if they would want to mark one of the
2:38:10on-site parking spaces for loading and
2:38:12loading um for for that program or we
2:38:15could also look at hours whatever you
2:38:18know whatever the appropriate hours
2:38:20and we can look at doing a loading
2:38:22unloading on the street as well near in
2:38:24front of the uh but i would think that
2:38:26would be more of a loc you know just for
2:38:29that location do this
2:38:31as opposed to it being part of something
2:38:34like this
2:38:35um
2:38:37plan and i would think that there
2:38:39over time could be other
2:38:41sort of one
2:38:43location
2:38:45at this time occurrences rather than
2:38:48having to put it into a major planning
2:38:50document does that make sense when i'm
2:38:53well we would continue to approach it
2:38:55both ways we could do a whole
2:38:56programmatic change and continue to
2:38:58address block by block at the various
2:39:01needs of each business or service
2:39:04okay but i i'm really kind of concerned
2:39:06about the concept of just sort of
2:39:08blanketing an area with any anything
2:39:12actually
2:39:13um
2:39:14because um it may not really
2:39:17apply that way
2:39:19there is language that us looks for
2:39:22i don't know if it was in the powerpoint
2:39:23but it's in the study that does allow we
2:39:24like to be flexible and it's a key
2:39:27goal on the other hand we found when
2:39:29public works and i spoke about this
2:39:30sometimes we get requests on certain
2:39:32blocks and without having
2:39:34some guiding documents about
2:39:37and we actually found even on the
2:39:38theater block that people were
2:39:39appreciative when we said we'd like to
2:39:40take a comprehensive look at it um
2:39:44so for example we know that there's
2:39:45loading and unloading needs but would
2:39:47you do that consecutively if there were
2:39:48four business next to each other or
2:39:50would we look at that and look at the
2:39:51occupancy and the other needs so we
2:39:53don't mean to take away flexibility but
2:39:55we mean to give kind of more
2:39:56cross-departmental guidance but in that
2:39:58example
2:40:00the theater only operates certain hours
2:40:03so
2:40:05if you have something that's geared
2:40:07towards a certain time of day
2:40:10some days of the week sometimes of year
2:40:13it's one way and then another
2:40:16point in the year
2:40:18you know like summer i believe is
2:40:20different than winter
2:40:22uh for the hours of operation of the
2:40:24theater because that's because of the
2:40:26that's when the students are
2:40:28either in school
2:40:29or available to go to the movies you
2:40:31know there's all kinds of little
2:40:33nuances like that and
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2:40:38the
2:40:38other businesses operate
2:40:41in other ways
2:40:42you know and so it just seems to me that
2:40:46making a one-size-fits-all
2:40:48is not necessarily
2:40:50for the best interest
2:40:53of our community but i'd like to also
2:40:56just sort of for give you a for example
2:41:00just because it's real to me in
2:41:02particular
2:41:04my daughter moved up to portland
2:41:07and uh she's now teaching at a
2:41:10university in downtown
2:41:12portland portland state university and
2:41:17she bought a house
2:41:19next to a rail station
2:41:23and she sold after a certain amount of
2:41:25time
2:41:26she sold her car
2:41:29because she realized she didn't need it
2:41:31anymore i mean so i i understand that
2:41:34the concept of people
2:41:37um changing their travel behavior
2:41:40and
2:41:41in vehicle or lack thereof based on
2:41:44where they're living and going
2:41:47over time
2:41:49so i would hope that we
2:41:52as a council do not make recommendations
2:41:55that would
2:41:57put into place something
2:42:00that doesn't exist now
2:42:03especially
2:42:05if it
2:42:06has a negative impact
2:42:09on transit users which is one of my
2:42:11concerns and that's it thank you
2:42:15council member fidelity
2:42:18um
2:42:19thank you
2:42:21so um
2:42:23i was
2:42:24surprised and pleased by the theme of
2:42:26underutilization as well
2:42:29and in this report
2:42:33and i
2:42:35wanted to
2:42:37i think you lay out that the conflict of
2:42:40parking in
2:42:41in a place making situation very well
2:42:44where
2:42:44we have to balance environmental and
2:42:47traffic goals
2:42:48with access
2:42:50to city services and businesses that's
2:42:53the whole key that we're talking about
2:42:54here
2:42:55so i'm glad you're looking at this we
2:42:58may not be ready to implement any of
2:43:00this but i'm glad my city is looking at
2:43:02these possible changes as we change
2:43:05and i may be asking a similar question
2:43:08as
2:43:08council woman abelson is in a different
2:43:11way i i wanted to get
2:43:13specifically
2:43:15congratulations on getting the mtc grant
2:43:19what exactly
2:43:21why did we get it
2:43:23is it to implement our specific plan
2:43:25and then the next question is
2:43:28to follow up with janet was talking
2:43:30about then what is the next action that
2:43:32we might take
2:43:33to support this grant that we got
2:43:37does that make sense i i think so so
2:43:40what is the goal of the grant why did we
2:43:42get it and then what
2:43:44with this report are we supposed to
2:43:46implement soon or what
2:43:48so from a big picture just as a reminder
2:43:51so both of these grants so we have
2:43:54three pda implementation grants right
2:43:56now
2:43:57this one is the last product in our
2:43:59first two
2:44:01and those were
2:44:02looking at depending on where a city was
2:44:04at um so many still needed to do
2:44:06something like a specific plan for
2:44:08example to move their priority
2:44:09development area forward because we had
2:44:11done such a great specific plan ours was
2:44:13much more looking at removing barriers
2:44:16so for example the sanitary system was a
2:44:18barrier it was a very expensive costly
2:44:20uncertain process for developers um
2:44:24or achieving the vision and so we felt
2:44:26that the affordable housing strategy and
2:44:28the inclusionary zoning for example so
2:44:30all of this we haven't actually
2:44:32utilized general fund money aside from
2:44:34staff time for a lot of these efforts
2:44:36that you've seen come forward over the
2:44:37last few years so it i don't remember
2:44:39when we got the grants i think it was
2:44:40like 2006
2:44:42we've asked for a couple extensions
2:44:44um
2:44:45and so this is the last product on this
2:44:47one we think uh that the guidelines were
2:44:51to present to council have this
2:44:53conversation to inform us but you don't
2:44:54have to be adopting these programs um so
2:44:56i think you've all seen that these all
2:44:58have both from an existing staffing
2:45:00standpoint we've uh we worked with
2:45:02public works to look at what
2:45:04realistically
2:45:06with existing staff in an existing
2:45:07program how could they start to be
2:45:09phased in
2:45:10and then you can see many of them
2:45:12were many of the longer term
2:45:14recommendations are more as conditions
2:45:19require because you start to have six
2:45:21blocks in a row that for example are
2:45:22over 80 occupancy and we start getting
2:45:24business complaints or um but it was you
2:45:27as staff
2:45:28visualizing the need to
2:45:30discuss this with us
2:45:32rather than mtc saying you need to
2:45:35move forward on this yes but it was also
2:45:37as a reminder when we adopted the
2:45:39specific plan the off-street parking
2:45:41reductions were a significant move for
2:45:44the city
2:45:45and so having more we used a more
2:45:48sophisticated parking policy and
2:45:50management program
2:45:52was something that we knew
2:45:54would be needed
2:45:55one example is we don't have any
2:45:57guidance right now to tell us whether we
2:45:59give residential parking permits to new
2:46:00development there's nothing on the city
2:46:02books to tell us
2:46:05it's hard to come up with a program
2:46:07without having this kind of data and
2:46:08this kind of information so there's
2:46:10times that it's real i know that public
2:46:12works also gets we entertain complaints
2:46:13sometimes or requests um and so this was
2:46:16an attempt to pull that all together
2:46:19like i said it um so it was proactive on
2:46:21yeah i appreciate talking about it it
2:46:23was thought-provoking
2:46:25report and i had just a few specific
2:46:28questions here based on some of the
2:46:29things that we're thinking about
2:46:31as far as ticketing
2:46:33i mean that there was an issue of
2:46:35certain cars or in places where they
2:46:37were not dealt with and
2:46:40we mentioned we have one
2:46:41police officer and two half police
2:46:43police officers and maybe one of our
2:46:46special honorees tonight was half of
2:46:48that one of those
2:46:50um
2:46:52there's no recommendation that we should
2:46:54be getting more staff to do more tickets
2:46:57is that correct
2:46:59um
2:47:00one thing that's interesting to note
2:47:02um
2:47:04is
2:47:05for example if nobody's parking on uh
2:47:08for blocks
2:47:09we have several blocks along san pablo
2:47:11avenue where no one's parking and we
2:47:12might have a one hour zone
2:47:14going and ticketing them is that good
2:47:17city policy
2:47:18it's a question right is it a good use
2:47:20of city resources probably
2:47:22not so you can see in here talks about
2:47:24trying to um i think one of the early
2:47:25steps is coming up with enforcement
2:47:27protocol so i think right now it's very
2:47:29complaint based so when we know that
2:47:30there's neighborhoods that are not
2:47:32that there's people overstaying their
2:47:34four-hour limit regularly and it's
2:47:36really impacting the neighborhood so
2:47:37it's very complaint based right now good
2:47:39i'm glad to hear that um you talk about
2:47:42new parking plans
2:47:44in residential areas i'm hoping that we
2:47:47will in the future with future fire
2:47:50evacuation plans be working with our
2:47:52fire folks
2:47:54to make sure that we mesh with whatever
2:47:57size of the streets we should be having
2:47:59parking permits like none on certain
2:48:01streets or and that those people with
2:48:04parking permits should know this that
2:48:06this is going to happen all right
2:48:08this may be you
2:48:11yes we will work with fire and police on
2:48:13that
2:48:13um and i agree with janet abelson i'm
2:48:17not seeing a lot of
2:48:19value or cost effectiveness and metering
2:48:22now in our downtown area i mean i just
2:48:24don't think the issue is there um
2:48:27but that's way long distance when we get
2:48:30more economic development and
2:48:32more
2:48:33um i was a little concerned it was it
2:48:36looked like a really good public
2:48:37outreach program that you guys did
2:48:40but no business came to
2:48:42downtown to talk this is our downtown
2:48:45business area nobody from the plaza
2:48:48nobody from
2:48:50anywhere downtown
2:48:52is there a reason where they called were
2:48:54they
2:48:55i mean we need to connect with them
2:48:57because they're the core of our
2:49:01lisa i think is still here or not here
2:49:02the chamber of commerce was here the
2:49:04manager earlier so we did send to every
2:49:06business license holder in those areas
2:49:08i think it speaks to that we don't i
2:49:10mean i think our pers we were surprised
2:49:12we were very geared up we had the
2:49:13meeting at non-thon we had a lot of
2:49:15staff and consultants there
2:49:17um i i think we don't have a a
2:49:20a big problem um i do think that if you
2:49:22probably started to meter the avenue you
2:49:24might be able to get the you know we we
2:49:27talked about like we could say something
2:49:28alarming um
2:49:30but so i think it doesn't indicate that
2:49:32they don't care necessarily right i mean
2:49:34hopefully they know they can call us we
2:49:35can talk i mean a vet was just speaking
2:49:37to him and she has communication with
2:49:39with different businesses who might have
2:49:41special needs for
2:49:43access so um i think we did do the
2:49:44outreach i think people did hear about
2:49:46it um obviously as changes occur it's a
2:49:49nice thing to be able to i think it's
2:49:51one of the useful things is that we have
2:49:52a common reference point when we do
2:49:54receive questions at this point
2:49:56um and charging for residential uh
2:49:59parking
2:50:00people that use bart
2:50:03will you be working i mean i guess
2:50:06conceptually working with bart on that
2:50:08or that that's our business right
2:50:11that's us
2:50:13and and i was happen to be someone in el
2:50:15cerrito that drove closer to bart to use
2:50:18bart so there is an issue of people in
2:50:21el cerrito from the hill we can't walk
2:50:23down
2:50:24we have to
2:50:26you know so that there is an impact
2:50:27there as well that we can walk half a
2:50:30mile but further than that to be
2:50:32permitted might be an issue
2:50:35okay i just said my two cents on that um
2:50:38and finally um
2:50:40is there any reason why san pablo avenue
2:50:43as a state highway can't have parklets
2:50:47um i can that might be able to build on
2:50:49this a little but i know that there's a
2:50:50group called parking day that's looked a
2:50:52couple times to try to establish one um
2:50:56at the at the foot of stockton which
2:50:59might not be the um best place to do it
2:51:01um so i don't think that caltrans has a
2:51:03prohibitive because we know that for
2:51:05example in oakland there's a couple um
2:51:07in um
2:51:08or emeryville very busy um but i think
2:51:11that there are some issues in terms of
2:51:12speed
2:51:15but that wouldn't be something you would
2:51:16not think about because parking goals in
2:51:19this report are long term
2:51:23so um i believe that caltrans is open to
2:51:26it it's a matter of designing it and
2:51:28then just finding the curb space to do
2:51:30everything that we want to do along san
2:51:32pablo avenue but i think we're both
2:51:34caltrans and city staff are open to
2:51:36investigating those opportunities
2:51:40and that does speak to you saw some of
2:51:41the pictures about curb space um so
2:51:43sometimes businesses don't want them
2:51:45sometimes they do
2:51:46right so
2:51:47i think that for example on stockton
2:51:49it's come up that jenny kaye might want
2:51:50it i think jenny k likes to have the
2:51:52parking
2:51:53in front of the business for people who
2:51:54want to stop
2:51:55um so i think that this actually would
2:51:57help us entertain such a policy so if we
2:51:59knew that we were at eight you know that
2:52:01we were 80 occupancy
2:52:04and there were a lot of businesses who
2:52:05said there wasn't enough i'm curious uh
2:52:07the dialogues that happened on solano
2:52:10when someone decided to give up parking
2:52:11spaces in front of their business i know
2:52:13that the yogurt place actually pursued
2:52:14it themselves so those are generally
2:52:17been pursued the ones that i know about
2:52:18by the business
2:52:20um and i think we'd be willing uh to
2:52:21partner on that but caltrans would have
2:52:23to be one of the
2:52:24permitters and would probably be some
2:52:26cost so thank you for the opportunity
2:52:28to discuss this i think it's worthy of
2:52:30discussion thank you
2:52:32you're pretend sure um ms sweet and
2:52:35staff thank you very much for this
2:52:36presentation
2:52:38the report i i will echo
2:52:42and maybe take it a little bit further
2:52:44than what my council members have said
2:52:46this report is is
2:52:48really does allow us to continue with
2:52:51the saint pablo avenue specific plan
2:52:54it does continue our next agenda item
2:52:57the replacement table does away with the
2:53:00um required parking column so it's a
2:53:03little harder for us just it does
2:53:05uh but it's so it's a little harder for
2:53:07us to say that the um the proposals are
2:53:11routinely coming in well below our
2:53:15minimum requirement
2:53:16um but it but what this does is that
2:53:19this report this parking study does
2:53:21allow us to say hey we can continue to
2:53:23have really low parking requirements
2:53:27as we go forward so
2:53:30and
2:53:31and i've got lots of very specific
2:53:34technical questions that i certainly can
2:53:37give you a flavor of tonight
2:53:40there's for example on
2:53:41and i'll walk you to the specific page
2:53:45it's in 4.1.1
2:53:48on page 16.
2:53:50um
2:53:52you say there's two sentences in here so
2:53:54on wednesday may 23rd
2:53:56over a quarter 27 of the park vehicles
2:53:59violated the parking time limits
2:54:02among
2:54:03vehicles parked in time limited parking
2:54:06spaces that number was even higher at 41
2:54:09percent i'm not sure i understand what
2:54:11that means either it was 27 percent or
2:54:1441 percent so i'm not i'm i was hoping
2:54:16you could help me understand that
2:54:19and and you're
2:54:21unfortunately in the study blocks the 22
2:54:25study block faces in
2:54:27the uptown
2:54:29you know a good chunk of those are
2:54:32not regulated and the commuters use them
2:54:35tremendously and so
2:54:36[Music]
2:54:38having the ability to differentiate
2:54:39between the unregulated blocks and the
2:54:42time limited blocks potentially could be
2:54:44very useful
2:54:45in this area so i i and i think would
2:54:48actually enhance
2:54:50your findings
2:54:51because i think you you you have
2:54:53basically documented that the blocks
2:54:56that don't have time limits
2:54:58which are block faces 5 12 13 14 15 and
2:55:0216
2:55:03are well over 80 percent occupied
2:55:06probably for nine hours a day and your
2:55:09and your study does not necessarily look
2:55:11at that
2:55:12those unregulated
2:55:14blocks my specific question under bullet
2:55:17point 3
2:55:18is on wednesday over a quarter 27 of the
2:55:21parked vehicles violated parking time
2:55:23limits
2:55:24among vehicles parked in time limited
2:55:26spaces that number was even
2:55:28higher 41
2:55:30both sentences talk about time limited
2:55:32parking
2:55:34what's the difference between those two
2:55:36sentences yeah i imagine there's i need
2:55:38to go back and look at the existing uh
2:55:41data i imagine that there's
2:55:43a word in here that was left out and it
2:55:45may have to do with
2:55:47maybe the
2:55:48and so i'm i would just be speculating
2:55:50right now but i would have to go verify
2:55:52can i can i can i ask you you said
2:55:55earlier one of your findings is that we
2:55:56need to do better enforcement of our
2:55:58time limits
2:56:00and this
2:56:01in this particular neighborhood
2:56:03i'm familiar with this particular
2:56:04neighborhood
2:56:05i would say the bulk of the people that
2:56:07are parked too long whether it's a
2:56:10four-hour limit and they're parked for
2:56:12more than four hours
2:56:14is because they have handicapped
2:56:16placards
2:56:17or they have uh
2:56:20as you point out in your study they have
2:56:22a zone e and they come from down up the
2:56:24hill and they park by the the station
2:56:27so i'm just curious
2:56:29did your did your study identify
2:56:32why a car might have been violating it
2:56:34not violating why a car might have been
2:56:36there longer than the posted time as a
2:56:39result of potentially being a permit
2:56:41holder or a placard holder we did not
2:56:43collect any permit or placard
2:56:46information when we did our data
2:56:47collection um so going to my second
2:56:49point on this particular data that you
2:56:51collected where
2:56:52a good number of these blocks 5 12 13 14
2:56:5515 and 16 are have no time limits
2:56:58um
2:57:00those were
2:57:01in your in your figure i think it's
2:57:03figure one they are the ones that are
2:57:05bright red
2:57:06um so
2:57:07if you go to figure one on page two
2:57:10you know the bulk of the bright red ones
2:57:14are ones that don't have a time limit
2:57:16and they and they only bolster your
2:57:18argument that we need to have some form
2:57:22of time management because when there
2:57:24isn't time management we get commuters
2:57:27that that effectively are parking for
2:57:29free and you're you're you're you left
2:57:31it for long term and i actually don't
2:57:32think it's appropriate in long term for
2:57:34us to potentially start doing uh
2:57:36permit charges for commuters as a matter
2:57:39of fact the news i can't remember the
2:57:41precise
2:57:43violation that this woman was doing and
2:57:45the bart people have gone but there was
2:57:47a woman who was going on to craigslist
2:57:50and buying her parking pass and and go
2:57:53meeting people at bark parking lot so
2:57:55that she could get a part pass and she
2:57:58was paying something to go to a thousand
2:58:00dollars a month
2:58:01for a guaranteed parking space
2:58:04so we clearly have
2:58:06a market here
2:58:08of
2:58:09i don't know a hundred part these blocks
2:58:11is probably represents a hundred parking
2:58:13spaces that essentially we are we pave
2:58:16them
Enforcement and fire access were raised.
Time limits are enforced “very complaint based” — when neighbors report regular overstays.
Fadelli asked that future residential permit plans be coordinated “with future fire evacuation plans… [and] the size of the streets.”
Lyman asked about two figures in the study: 27 percent of parked vehicles violating time limits on a Wednesday in May, and 41 percent among time-limited spaces. The consultant could not immediately reconcile them, and said the counts did not record permits or disabled placards.
In his reading, the unregulated blocks near Del Norte are “well over 80 percent occupied probably for nine hours a day.”
Abelson noted businesses need different limits — the theater's hours follow students — so “one-size-fits-all is not necessarily for the best interest.”
The director explained the priority development area work removed barriers, such as a costly sewer process, “without… general fund money aside from staff time.”
Caltrans was open to changes on San Pablo Avenue, a state highway, subject to design and curb space.
Fadelli welcomed the report's theme of underutilization and its balance of “environmental and traffic goals with access to city services and businesses”: “we may not be ready to implement any of this, but I'm glad my city is” looking at it.
Lyman noted the new project table no longer shows required parking, making it harder to see that projects routinely come in below the old minimums.
Fadelli saw little value in metering downtown now, and asked why no downtown businesses took part in the outreach; staff said every business license holder in those areas had been notified.
Enforcement of time limits is “very complaint based.” Fadelli asks that residential permit plans be coordinated with future evacuation planning and street widths.
15 Why aren't we charging them captions 4800–5452
2:58:17we clean them we sweep them we're
2:58:19responsible for the storm water that
2:58:21comes off of these parking spaces and
2:58:24they park their vehicle there for eight
2:58:26to ten hours
2:58:27i don't see why we're not charging them
2:58:28today so we have a long-term strategy in
2:58:31here to to
2:58:32someday charge these people for for
2:58:35parking and i don't understand why it's
2:58:37a long-term parking
2:58:38and that comes from my experience of
2:58:40knowing that these red areas that are
2:58:42exceeding 80 percent are all unregulated
2:58:45parking so again
2:58:47going back to the
2:58:48the methodology of the study
2:58:50is there any way to tease apart
2:58:53the
2:58:54unregulated
2:58:55block faces from the regulated block
2:58:57plate faces and potentially using those
2:58:59to support your findings
2:59:01that
2:59:02you know time limits
2:59:04do achieve
2:59:06the type of
2:59:07parking
2:59:09demand that allows us to use a report
2:59:12like this to say we can go to less than
2:59:14one parking space per unit as we go into
2:59:18our eir
2:59:19for our continuation of the saint pablo
2:59:21avenue specific plan
2:59:24so i can respond to the later part um
2:59:27and then maybe i'll let melanie address
2:59:29the bart
2:59:30part okay
2:59:31um the bart part uh so with
2:59:34uh so with your comment related to
2:59:37regulated versus unregulated on street
2:59:39parking
2:59:40when we took a look at our data
2:59:41regulated um uptown blocks have an
2:59:44average occupancy
2:59:46um of 49
2:59:48and unregulated was 78 percent 78 78 so
2:59:53that
2:59:54shows up red on your peak demand table
2:59:56figure one
2:59:58that's average okay
3:00:00um what says noon on figure one oh that
3:00:03is not the average the seventy eight i'm
3:00:05telling you right now it's just the
3:00:06average okay
3:00:08um we didn't do it hourly we just
3:00:11um uh
3:00:13so those were the
3:00:14which suggests
3:00:16that having more regulation
3:00:19um
3:00:21uh would
3:00:23actually you know
3:00:25decrease occupancy whereas un regulated
3:00:28where there is no time limit increases
3:00:30occupancy right and and and therefore if
3:00:33we were to put in some form of
3:00:34regulation
3:00:36we would
3:00:38continue to demonstrate and i know
3:00:41i know
3:00:42council member abelson thinks that oh if
3:00:44it's a 50 we're promoting driving
3:00:47actually what we're doing is decreasing
3:00:49the amount of parking that goes into the
3:00:51developments where for promoting
3:00:53development so to me this report
3:00:55actually says we should be doing more
3:00:58development with less parking in the
3:01:00development which makes the because when
3:01:02dr shoop was here it's forty thousand
3:01:04dollars a parking space is probably now
3:01:06sixty thousand dollars of parking space
3:01:08so every time we remove a parking space
3:01:10from an apartment complex we're saving
3:01:12the developer money and they're more
3:01:13like their project becomes more
3:01:14affordable so
3:01:17i for me
3:01:18why aren't we increasing
3:01:20the regulation around the bart stations
3:01:23and and again
3:01:24you only looked at certain study
3:01:26components you only had time to do 22
3:01:28block faces you for example liberty
3:01:31both liberty
3:01:33you know on next to the bart station and
3:01:34liberty south of the bart station
3:01:37would turn up bright red in in if you
3:01:39had studied those areas too so this is a
3:01:41subset of the study area is a subset of
3:01:43the actual world
3:01:45and by the time we
3:01:46regulated all areas that were near bart
3:01:48that were unregulated we could
3:01:50potentially generate enough parking
3:01:52spaces that some of our developments
3:01:54would be happy to come back to the
3:01:56project area so
3:01:59it's a long way of saying why aren't we
3:02:02and this is for you melanie why aren't
3:02:04we implementing some of the parking
3:02:05strategies around bart
3:02:07so it's um so at one point we had that
3:02:10in short term and it's um
3:02:12and i think i meant it alex's support on
3:02:14this so this is something that came up
3:02:15in 2011 when you uh so it's come up
3:02:18before
3:02:20and
3:02:21i think that some of those block faces
3:02:23that we're seeing that are those types
3:02:24of faces um you know on richmond street
3:02:27on liberty according where there might
3:02:29not be residents on that side of the
3:02:31street right so that's not there's no
3:02:32four hour and nobody's parking in front
3:02:33of their house there but it's still 100
3:02:36or 90 occupied so yes i think the
3:02:38consultants and we all deduce that
3:02:40that's mostly bart parker's that might
3:02:42include people like yourself who have a
3:02:44permit in the e-zone but it's people who
3:02:46are not in proximate uh living there
3:02:50however as you can imagine if we started
3:02:52to just put meters there they would just
3:02:54go up to the next block over so it's a
3:02:56little bit more comprehensive i think
3:02:58when i think about it because that was
3:02:59my first impression too why don't we
3:03:01just do an inexpensive permit program
3:03:03let's use that revenue
3:03:04to keep to keep developing this but i
3:03:06think it's a little bit more complicated
3:03:08because
3:03:10you know definitely on the south end
3:03:11it's so walkable that people just keep
3:03:13moving up
3:03:15you know maybe that's okay and it's
3:03:17maybe some wouldn't because they're like
3:03:18i really otherwise i would have bought a
3:03:20parking permit if there wasn't a
3:03:21waitlist and i don't have the number in
3:03:22front of me right now but bart does have
3:03:24wait list there are many people who
3:03:25would pay to be two minutes
3:03:27from from the turnstile and wouldn't
3:03:29want to walk that extra 10 minutes so i
3:03:31think we'd have to do a little bit more
3:03:32analysis but if your direction is that
3:03:34you'd i mean i'm not going to promise it
3:03:36in any
3:03:36super near term but i agree with you
3:03:38that it seems to me it's come up in many
3:03:40recommendations that bart parking
3:03:43parking for free
3:03:44is not helping to pay for our
3:03:46transportation improvements or you know
3:03:48it's just not contributing
3:03:50um
3:03:51so i agree yeah to build on this to uh
3:03:54council member abelson's point the um
3:03:59the more the parking around bart within
3:04:01that half mile and i and i see people
3:04:04walking
3:04:05um halfway up
3:04:07you know cutting
3:04:08to their car because that's outside the
3:04:10time limit
3:04:12um and and of course there's all the
3:04:14teachers that park around the school who
3:04:16are there for you know extended period
3:04:18of time so the employee parking
3:04:20component is something that we have to
3:04:21look at and it's all woven together
3:04:24but
3:04:25as people walk further and further away
3:04:29they're going to say well maybe i should
3:04:31take the bus
3:04:33to del norte this is all related we're
3:04:34going to mode shift them and so the the
3:04:37more we can make the parking around
3:04:40the the the station
3:04:43um
3:04:44better fit the type of use that we want
3:04:47okay we want this space to be available
3:04:50uh 860 percent available so that
3:04:53somebody can come down hop into in
3:04:56instead of driving to berkeley and
3:04:57paying eight dollars to park in berkeley
3:04:59and then driving back
3:05:01they know that they will have a parking
3:05:03space within five minutes of bart so
3:05:05they can take bart to downtown berkeley
3:05:07do their shopping and come back that's
3:05:09mode shift and the only way we can do
3:05:11mode shift is if we have more reliable
3:05:14parking around the bart stations and so
3:05:18you know i
3:05:20yes we may push people away and yes
3:05:22those people may decide to mode shift to
3:05:24a bus to get to the bart station for
3:05:26their eight hour 12 hour commute
3:05:28um
3:05:29so i
3:05:30i'm i would really want us to look at
3:05:34some of the
3:05:35parking that's adjacent to the bart and
3:05:38get us
3:05:38and this is where i'm going is that i
3:05:40support policies
3:05:43that allow you to shoot for 60 or eighty
3:05:45percent in various locations and to
3:05:48again echo what council member abelson
3:05:50said about the midtown and dmv
3:05:53maybe we should be looking at time time
3:05:55zones here that allow us to make sure
3:05:57that we have the type of turnover and
3:06:00parking availability for the midtown
3:06:01center that's needed
3:06:03so i just the the having policies in
3:06:06place that allow you to use metrics to
3:06:10make good decisions is certainly
3:06:12something that i'm i'm gonna support and
3:06:14and make trying to figure out what those
3:06:16metrics are is certainly what
3:06:18you guys have been working on
3:06:20um
3:06:22the data collection which is one of the
3:06:23short-term ones talks about annual and
3:06:26periodic uh measurements are monitoring
3:06:29can you speak to the miss suite can you
3:06:32speak to the
3:06:34like the cost of that and whether or not
3:06:36the
3:06:37parking districts or parking permits or
3:06:40parking fines and i know most of our
3:06:41parking fines don't even come back to
3:06:43the city
3:06:44um
3:06:45would
3:06:46would be able to fund that type of data
3:06:49collection because that certainly was
3:06:50the one
3:06:52area that seemed to be rather
3:06:55costly
3:06:56without necessarily an immediate benefit
3:06:59to us
3:07:01sure so um
3:07:03i the
3:07:04idea here is that
3:07:07we would collaborate with
3:07:09parking enforcement
3:07:11so that
3:07:13the counts would be conducted
3:07:15perhaps at the similar times that they
3:07:17did enforcement checks
3:07:20so they it would just require counting
3:07:23the number of cars that were on a street
3:07:26um you know at the
3:07:28depending on if it's a four hour time
3:07:29limit from the start of that
3:07:31you know nine o'clock until you know
3:07:33whenever the four one pm
3:07:35um and so the idea here is that we would
3:07:38try to integrate it into their existing
3:07:40patrols
3:07:42um and that's why we say periodic it
3:07:44would take a little bit of
3:07:46you know discussion
3:07:48with the police department to figure out
3:07:50kind of the best way to do this and in
3:07:52particular we would want to target the
3:07:54streets and the blocks that are kind of
3:07:55the hot spots of high demand
3:07:59those types of periodic counts i think
3:08:01could be
3:08:03done
3:08:04very efficiently if you had a license
3:08:06plate reader for example which is like
3:08:08an initial investment
3:08:10um alternatively
3:08:12if you just want to count occupancy
3:08:14that's fairly simple to do the type of
3:08:17count such as the annual count that um
3:08:21maybe on a similar scale to what we did
3:08:23as part of this study would be a greater
3:08:25investment
3:08:26um and so it would be up to the city
3:08:28just to kind of track how things are
3:08:30going annually and if you want to look
3:08:32at the study area over time which could
3:08:34be useful data
3:08:37and that would be more costly depending
3:08:39um though as i've discussed with melanie
3:08:42that framework is already established
3:08:44from this study and so you could just
3:08:46take
3:08:47the materials that we've already built
3:08:50and then just use
3:08:51either current labor or frankly it's a
3:08:53really great job for interns um and
3:08:57um and and it's and doing this that
3:09:00count just annually
3:09:04originally that did say weekly before it
3:09:07said periodic
3:09:09um
3:09:10but miss
3:09:12miss sweet the
3:09:14license plate reader has the ability to
3:09:16to gauge
3:09:18empty spaces or just to gauge that a car
3:09:21has been parked there at the same spot
3:09:23for
3:09:24an extended period of time right the
3:09:26ladder so
3:09:27so
3:09:28so technology can't help us identify
3:09:30empty curb it can only tell
3:09:32identify occupied curb by the same
3:09:34vehicle that's right i mean what we have
3:09:37done
3:09:37especially if the street is not striped
3:09:40for parking spaces
3:09:42is that we estimated how many cars could
3:09:44potentially park on a street so if the
3:09:46license plate reader just reads that
3:09:48there are four cars
3:09:50and we know from our data that that
3:09:51length probably allows you know 10 then
3:09:54we now understand it's a 40 occupancy
3:09:57yeah i can tell you that if
3:09:59you know my there we would have 50 more
3:10:01cars if everyone would drove minis 50
3:10:04more parking spaces
3:10:06um or bikes or a bike or we'd have a lot
3:10:09more bikes
3:10:11the signage on page 27
3:10:15are are some very elaborate signs and i
3:10:18appreciate i appreciate them
3:10:20um
3:10:21but
3:10:22is there any evidence that this signage
3:10:25is easy to read i mean is that like i
3:10:28know that's what it's saying easy to
3:10:29decipher
3:10:31but it but it took me
3:10:32some time to to decipher it and i was
3:10:34just curious if if
3:10:36people
3:10:38if there's any anecdotal evidence that
3:10:40people who are driving by can really
3:10:42actually understand this
3:10:44you know i can tell you that people
3:10:46routinely are parking in four hour
3:10:48limits and asking
3:10:50can i park here all day and the sign
3:10:51clearly says four hour limit so i'm just
3:10:54curious if if this
3:10:56signage that's here i mean i
3:10:59i appreciate its thoroughness but is it
3:11:02is it really
3:11:03easy to decipher
3:11:06um i think that the idea behind this
3:11:08this signage is
3:11:11this a specific example that's included
3:11:13here
3:11:14um i
3:11:16is
3:11:17uh for when you have more complicated
3:11:19parking regulations on a street
3:11:21so this is not necessarily something i
3:11:24would recommend here this is just an
3:11:26example of what could be done in the
3:11:27future okay thanks
3:11:29thank you
3:11:32[Music]
3:11:35i appreciate the study i understand what
3:11:38you're trying to do and looking ahead to
3:11:40the future and making sure that we're
3:11:42on top of our parking needs i know that
3:11:45a common concern from constituents is
3:11:49with all of this development what's
3:11:51going to happen to parking what's going
3:11:53to happen to our small businesses
3:11:55so to see that we're in relatively good
3:11:57shape at this point
3:11:59is encouraging i really want to make
3:12:02sure that we are able to specifically
3:12:04preserve that in and out easiness
3:12:07parking for
3:12:09going into our business districts and
3:12:10making sure that our small businesses
3:12:12and el cerrito
3:12:13really thrive
3:12:15i was really interested to hear about uh
3:12:18the parking permit areas in terms of
3:12:22you know people living at the top and
3:12:24then driving down to my house
3:12:27and parking in front of it
3:12:29um
3:12:30so
3:12:31i mean i i understand that when you live
3:12:34next to bart people are going to park
3:12:35there but
3:12:36um
3:12:37that's not what we want in terms of um
3:12:40uh encouraging people to walk and bike
3:12:43and so on so i'm really interested in
3:12:45changing those permit areas
3:12:48and then as time goes on maybe extending
3:12:51the permit areas to provide
3:12:55adequate parking for a large
3:12:58people that might be impacted that would
3:12:59not otherwise be impacted from the
3:13:02development that we have here in the
3:13:03city
3:13:04uh the other thing that i often hear
3:13:06from people about this development is um
3:13:08what are we going to do with our schools
3:13:10and
3:13:11obviously here at the city we're not
3:13:13in charge of the schools and and what we
3:13:15would do in terms of admissions and
3:13:18and expanding the schools for um
3:13:21for students
3:13:23but we are in charge of parking here so
3:13:25i do appreciate
3:13:27this the study and i think that there's
3:13:29a lot of really good
3:13:31ideas
3:13:33and i think that we'll need some further
3:13:36discussion
3:13:37as things develop
3:13:40i'm interested in what council member
3:13:43lyman said in terms of is there a way of
3:13:48possibly charging people for bart at
3:13:50this point possibly doing some
3:13:51permitting around that
3:13:53um
3:13:55that's that's an interesting idea to me
3:13:57so
3:13:58um
3:13:59i don't have a lot of questions just
3:14:04um i know that we'll have to like return
3:14:06to this and discuss it more in terms of
3:14:09setting priorities
3:14:11on this the specific suggestions that
3:14:13were given
3:14:16so i'll just thank you for your time and
3:14:18then ask if we have any
3:14:20uh speakers on this
3:14:23we do have two cards i believe the first
3:14:26uh requester may have left george gager
3:14:30so then the other speaker we have is uh
3:14:32howdy gowdy
3:14:35all right
3:14:41oh i'm sorry
3:14:48good evening mayor and council members
3:14:49my name is howdy gowdy i live in el
3:14:50cerrito so i want to thank
3:14:55the planning effort that went into this
3:14:58study i i think it actually is really
3:15:01important to be looking
3:15:03long-term and holistically about this
3:15:07because it's not just about parking as
3:15:10was mentioned i mean this is really
3:15:13about managing
3:15:14the public open space and it just so
3:15:17happens that probably one of the largest
3:15:19public open spaces in our city
3:15:22is 10 foot wide strips of asphalt on
3:15:24either side of every road that we have
3:15:27and and so it begs the question is that
3:15:30the best use of that
3:15:32tremendous community asset
3:15:34and
3:15:35absolutely in some areas it it is
3:15:38a high use of that space to have
3:15:41an easy
3:15:42point of
3:15:44coming and going to to businesses for
3:15:47for activity
3:15:48um but in other aspects it's it's a
3:15:51really tragic misuse of space and it it
3:15:54invites us to um
3:15:57imagine it differently and
3:16:00and so
3:16:01i think we really do need to look at
3:16:03this um
3:16:05as you know a management opportunity of
3:16:09you know how do we use this open space
3:16:11and there's been a number of things um
3:16:14mentioned in terms of
3:16:16you know
3:16:17better access to transit you know bike
3:16:19and pedestrian improvements all the
3:16:21other things that that can happen there
3:16:23um which is not to say that parking
3:16:25isn't going to be part of it um but
3:16:28i i'm concerned by some of the
3:16:31uh
3:16:33sort of
3:16:34uh complacency that um
3:16:38that we don't have a parking problem so
3:16:39we don't need to think about this we
3:16:41actually do need to think about this
3:16:42because this is the one opportunity
3:16:44you're going to have to kind of rethink
3:16:47and reprogram what could happen in this
3:16:49space because as soon as it becomes a
3:16:51parking problem you have people arguing
3:16:55up and down you've got to preserve
3:16:57parking that's what we want and so
3:17:00take advantage of the fact that there's
3:17:02under utilization to do some inventive
3:17:04different things that make this
3:17:07a vibrant place and along those lines i
3:17:09think it's important to be thinking
3:17:12about the
3:17:14the new development and its implications
3:17:18i'm fully supportive of reducing
3:17:20parking
3:17:21requirements for
3:17:23for new development but we don't
3:17:25necessarily want to be subsidizing
3:17:27those forty thousand dollars per parking
3:17:30space
3:17:31for developers by just putting them on
3:17:33the street because those people will be
3:17:36future people advocating for keeping
3:17:38that car on the street instead of doing
3:17:41something more innovative with it in the
3:17:43future so it's really important to
3:17:46not um
3:17:48let things slide and suddenly have a
3:17:51situation where we have these parked up
3:17:52streets and we can't do anything about
3:17:54it because there's such a demand to keep
3:17:57those cars in place so i i really think
3:17:59we do need to be thinking ahead and i um
3:18:03i also support the comments about
3:18:05charging for bart parking thank you
3:18:07thank you
3:18:09right
3:18:10further comments
3:18:12um councilmember abelson i just have a
3:18:15um let me see if i can get near my
3:18:17speaker
3:18:22and moved away um i just wanted to add a
3:18:25comment and i'm not quite sure
3:18:27what the right answer is but i remember
3:18:29it being an issue in
3:18:31places i have been and that is the
3:18:35use of a handicapped placard
3:18:38for parking
3:18:40and i
3:18:42some of these policies would have the
3:18:45impact for people
3:18:48who need those placards in order to park
3:18:51and use whatever it is at all
3:18:54that um
3:18:55they not be designated you know that
3:18:58they
3:18:59not be designated in ways
3:19:01that would not allow those placards to
3:19:04be used
3:19:05and although i could be wrong on this
3:19:07because i can't quite remember for sure
3:19:09but
3:19:11it seems to me that when
3:19:13i that in the past i've heard that in
3:19:15berkeley
3:19:16specifically when it was a
3:19:20a lot in that situation but i'm thinking
3:19:23that if you designated a
3:19:27a parking space
3:19:30to be
3:19:31basically for sale or for sale during
3:19:37commuter hours or whatever
3:19:39which i think was one of the
3:19:43things mentioned
3:19:44as a possibility early in our
3:19:46conversation tonight that um
3:19:50you can't really use a placard in that
3:19:52what that does to the person who uses
3:19:55that placard
3:19:56is deny them access
3:19:58to the area because
3:20:02they don't have a choice it's not just
3:20:04that oh they don't have to pay it's that
3:20:07they don't have a choice
3:20:09they can't park there at all is what it
3:20:12means you know in this example where
3:20:14we're talking about um
3:20:18a monthly rate for
3:20:20a parking a guaranteed parking place or
3:20:23something so that denies
3:20:25people who use those placards the
3:20:28ability to use
3:20:30transit for example because they can't
3:20:32necessarily
3:20:34get close enough to it to be able to
3:20:36travel from their
3:20:38[Music]
3:20:40car uh
3:20:42especially accessible cars because they
3:20:44they have limited ways they can
3:20:46park anyway and uh to get into say a
3:20:49bart station
3:20:51um or to get into a business that they
3:20:53want to um
3:20:56go to or something so i just wanted to
3:20:58add that in as kind of a wrinkle
3:21:01effect that can occur
3:21:03as a result of some of these
3:21:06ideas on
3:21:08parking so um anyway
3:21:11that's it
3:21:13councilmember
3:21:15any further questions
3:21:17oh i just had one last comment um i i
3:21:21also wanted to echo what
3:21:24council member fidelity said in terms of
3:21:27the parking evacuation zones
3:21:30i think that that
3:21:31is definitely worth it worth looking at
3:21:34and so thank you very much for your
3:21:36presentation i appreciate it thank you
3:21:38so much
3:21:41next on our agenda we have the san pablo
3:21:44avenue specific plan update
3:21:46um i'd like to make a motion if i could
3:21:50oh
3:21:51all right i'd like to uh make a motion
3:21:53that we extend the meeting by half an
3:21:56hour we don't have to use it but then
3:21:57we'll
3:21:58i'll second that
3:22:00okay all in uh motion by abelson and
3:22:03seconded by
3:22:04quinto all in favor
3:22:06opposed motion passes
Lyman asked why commuters park free all day on city streets.
His case: “we clean them, we sweep them, we're responsible for the stormwater that comes off of these parking spaces, and they park their vehicle there for eight to ten hours. I don't see why we're not charging them today.”
The consultant's data: regulated uptown blocks averaged 49 percent occupancy and unregulated ones 78 percent. Lyman argued this supports more regulation and less parking in new development — “forty thousand dollars a parking space is probably now sixty thousand.”
The consultant suggested annual counts to track change, “a really great job for interns.”
The director said charging had come up before, in 2011, but meters would push commuters a block further; still, BART has waitlists — “many people who would pay to be two minutes from the turnstile” — and free BART parking “is not helping to pay for our transportation improvements.”
A resident speaker also supported charging for BART parking, and urged thinking ahead.
Abelson raised disabled placard holders, who could be shut out of spaces sold to commuters: “they don't have a choice they can't park there at all.”
On cost: counts could be done alongside parking enforcement checks rather than paying consultants again.
Lyman found the sample signs hard to decipher, noting that people “routinely are parking in four hour limits and asking can i park here all day”; the consultant said the example was for complicated regulations, not a recommendation here.
The Mayor wanted to preserve easy in-and-out parking for small businesses and was interested in Lyman's idea of charging BART commuters. No action was taken; staff had asked only for direction.
Abelson moved to extend the meeting by half an hour, seconded by Quinto.
Lyman argues that commuters parking free all day on unregulated blocks near Del Norte should be charged now rather than as a long-term strategy: “I don't see why we're not charging them today.” Staff note BART's own waitlists for paid permits.
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3:22:12okay so next we have our san pablo
3:22:13avenue specific plan update
3:22:16staff report please
3:22:23good evening council i'm melanie's your
3:22:26community development director
3:22:28um
3:22:29so obviously this uh the specific plan
3:22:31has been a large topic um this evening
3:22:34and has really been a large topic for
3:22:36several years one of the things that i
3:22:38think is really interesting and i think
3:22:40in many ways a testament to the success
3:22:42of the specific plan is you haven't seen
3:22:45any of the projects that have been
3:22:46approved
3:22:49through the entitlement process which i
3:22:50think is a a success
3:22:53that means that they of course have not
3:22:55been appealed to you um so i think when
3:22:57we think about some
3:22:58i don't know metro 510 you guys saw that
3:23:00one i think a lot
3:23:02many years ago so i think that that's a
3:23:05success but we're really proud to come
3:23:06to you tonight and actually sean a
3:23:09little bit later in the presentation
3:23:10we'll be walking you through
3:23:12the projects that have been approved and
3:23:14i encourage you as you're looking at the
3:23:16projects that have been approved one of
3:23:18our main items tonight is
3:23:20we realize the word update means two
3:23:21things so we're giving you an update on
3:23:23the status of the plan's implementation
3:23:25and because of the plan's success the
3:23:27eir is nearing
3:23:28capacity and so we'd also like to be
3:23:30doing an update
3:23:32as you read in the report and i've heard
3:23:34also
3:23:36because we have 16 projects now under
3:23:38our belt in the last few years
3:23:42it's also a good time to look at it and
3:23:44say is this resulting in the type of
3:23:45development and the type of
3:23:47uh change that you want uh the city
3:23:50manager uses uh used the word
3:23:52transformation quite a bit and i think
3:23:54it's one thing to to remember that's
3:23:56really what's happening out there
3:24:00um so again i'm going to give you
3:24:01everybody comes into the specific plan
3:24:03at a different point in time so i'm
3:24:05going to do some quick background
3:24:07of how the specific plan was developed
3:24:09and kind of
3:24:10what policies did it integrate what was
3:24:12it trying to advance
3:24:13we'll go through a current status of
3:24:15complete streets which is a key
3:24:17component of the plan realizing its
3:24:19vision
3:24:20approved projects which is the built
3:24:22environment which is equally as
3:24:24important
3:24:25early on in this process when i was
3:24:27meeting up at the del you know for years
3:24:28people wanted a new mid-block crossing
3:24:31at patel norte wanted a lot of things at
3:24:33but del norte but of course because of
3:24:34the circulation patterns we had to make
3:24:36a lot of changes that avett might be
3:24:38speaking to but really when you look up
3:24:40there it's not just the street it's the
3:24:42built environment that that needs to
3:24:44change and so later we'll also be
3:24:45showing you some slides that integrate
3:24:47the two
3:24:48um so after giving a current status of
3:24:50what we are implementing uh we can talk
3:24:52a bit about the need for plan update and
3:24:55both the eir component as well as the
3:24:57form-based code and next steps
3:25:02so
3:25:03when when i first started in the city
3:25:05and
3:25:06when we first started applying for
3:25:08grants for streetscape and the theater
3:25:10was underway which required that we
3:25:12actually took back our sidewalks from
3:25:14caltrans which was a big deal so we went
3:25:16through a relinquishment process it's a
3:25:18story that's probably forgotten but in
3:25:19order to do the ticket booth on san
3:25:21pablo avenue we had to have the state of
3:25:24california give us the sidewalk because
3:25:26the vehicle code didn't allow ticket
3:25:28booths on sidewalk on state highways
3:25:31and i believe while the city was at it
3:25:32and the city council at that time
3:25:34determined to take back the whole length
3:25:36of sidewalk and the blue signs that you
3:25:38see out there the way finding sides
3:25:39wouldn't have been possible if it was
3:25:40still a caltrans uh highway they don't
3:25:42meet their standards so it's just kind
3:25:44of fun to see that was one of the
3:25:46origins but at the time lonnie hancock
3:25:48was our assemblywoman she actually had a
3:25:50office at the plaza
3:25:53and she was a big advocate for
3:25:55transforming san pablo avenue and this
3:25:57is a quote of hers that i we actually
3:25:59included in our first 1.8 million grant
3:26:02that we got to do streetscape
3:26:04improvements on the avenue and she wrote
3:26:06imagine san pablo avenue as a grand
3:26:07boulevard stretching from oakland to
3:26:09hercules with jewels of
3:26:11pedestrian-friendly and family-friendly
3:26:13mixed-use urban and distinctive
3:26:14neighborhoods along the way
3:26:16the san pablo avenue of the future will
3:26:18include a diverse range of housing
3:26:20business service recreational
3:26:23educational transportation and civic
3:26:25opportunities with distinct nodes of
3:26:26activity in each city connected by an
3:26:29attractive multimodal world-class
3:26:30boulevard and i think it's something
3:26:33to note that when you look i think
3:26:34there's a little competition at least in
3:26:36my mind about which city is doing
3:26:39but i think when you think about it as a
3:26:40vision and a grand boulevard and
3:26:43that might speak a little bit that's you
3:26:44know the counties are working together
3:26:46we also know
3:26:47you know for the purposes of transit and
3:26:49transportation that thinking uh
3:26:51holistically along the corner but i do
3:26:53think that we should become the most
3:26:54distinctive and coolest neighborhood
3:26:56along san pablo avenue
3:26:59um another thing to just note was also
3:27:01when she had her offices there uh she
3:27:03hosted something called the san pablo
3:27:04avenue working group and i had just
3:27:06started here and when people sometimes
3:27:08talked about san pablo avenue and it's
3:27:10that it wasn't attractive or pedestrian
3:27:11friendly i think that we often in the
3:27:13city thought it was caltrans fault so i
3:27:15repeated that at this meeting and there
3:27:17was a couple caltrans employees there
3:27:18who said don't blame us work with us and
3:27:20i think yvette would be able to speak to
3:27:22they've been really good partners so i
3:27:24think it's actually something as we've
3:27:25moved forward they've been a a key part
3:27:27in all our technical advisory groups
3:27:29they
3:27:30they have similar goals multi-modal
3:27:32goals that we do they probably didn't 30
3:27:33years ago but they do now and so they're
3:27:35actually
3:27:36really good partners as a vet just
3:27:38mentioned parklets would be possible if
3:27:40that's if that works in that situation
3:27:43another interesting thing i like to kind
3:27:45of harken back to is el cerrito ever
3:27:48since its 1999 general plan and probably
3:27:50previously had wanted to revitalize san
3:27:52pablo avenue and bring energy and make a
3:27:53place there but it's taken some
3:27:55iterations to figure out what that would
3:27:57what do we need to do to do that in 2006
3:28:00the
3:28:01city commissioned some studies economic
3:28:03development studies looking at what do
3:28:05we need to do
3:28:06one of the things that it noted and you
3:28:07might remember in this time retail was
3:28:09changing a lot and has only continued to
3:28:11but it said retail is not
3:28:13it will experience heavy competition
3:28:15from surrounding cities obviously
3:28:16emeryville was developing at the time
3:28:17panel different space considerations and
3:28:20what it said the key to our us being
3:28:23able to achieve our economic development
3:28:24goals was to pursue higher quality more
3:28:26dynamic urban lifestyle development to
3:28:29attract a more distinctive type of
3:28:32commercial
3:28:33that we need vision and readiness and
3:28:35that we need to improve our own physical
3:28:37environment the former city manager
3:28:39likes to talk about when
3:28:41i like repeating the story that when
3:28:42trader joe's came to see if they should
3:28:44invest in this town we were in trailers
3:28:46that were falling apart and trader joe's
3:28:49corporate did say why would we invest in
3:28:51this town do you invest in this town
3:28:53and scott apparently decided right then
3:28:55and there that to come to council and
3:28:57say we need to and we have many times
3:28:59it's hard when you're talking to people
3:29:01who want to come and develop in town
3:29:03when they look at what they see out
3:29:05there they might think that's what you
3:29:06want and so city hall has been a great
3:29:08place to speak to them for and say this
3:29:10is the quality of what we see out there
3:29:11and of course as we get more development
3:29:14examples we'll be able to show that even
3:29:16more
3:29:18so of course in those years kind of
3:29:19between 2004 and 2012 and ongoing now um
3:29:23we did improve the physical environment
3:29:25it was fortunate there was a bit of a
3:29:26recession and so doing public projects
3:29:28was also um
3:29:30more costly and these are a lot of the
3:29:32things that you can imagine were spoken
3:29:34about lonnie hancock's
3:29:36vision you know civic center so we built
3:29:39city hall
3:29:40we restored the creek i love the grand
3:29:42opening up at baxter creek
3:29:45as the orchestra
3:29:46a symphony played for the grand opening
3:29:48um of course the cerrito theater
3:29:51which really you know brings people from
3:29:53across the whole corridor
3:29:55we won actually an icma award for our
3:29:58streetscape improvements
3:30:00and of course you spoke a little bit
3:30:02tonight about um you know del norte bart
3:30:04is becoming the station is going to
3:30:06become one of the kind of premier
3:30:07gateway
3:30:08stations um in the system
3:30:12um again just to talk about how many
3:30:13plans were being implemented when the
3:30:15specific plan was being developed and
3:30:17how all these things are are relate
3:30:19so the strategic plan specifically calls
3:30:21out maximizing opportunities for new and
3:30:23expanding businesses as you'll see later
3:30:27you know we have
3:30:28nine new spaces coming with these
3:30:30recently approved projects
3:30:32um we imagine under developing
3:30:33underutilized properties um that's well
3:30:36underway and there's a lot more to be
3:30:37done
3:30:38um encourage use of alternative modes
3:30:40we've been talking about that all night
3:30:41with you know what how does parking
3:30:43relate to this event we'll talk again
3:30:45how does complete streets relate to this
3:30:46and how does just where the development
3:30:48occurs relate to this
3:30:50um and reducing my vehicle miles
3:30:52traveled through transit-oriented form
3:30:54which directly feeds from our climate
3:30:57action plan which actually had many
3:30:58sections
3:30:59related to what we achieved in the
3:31:01specific plan about compacting higher
3:31:04encouraging higher density compact
3:31:06development in order to reduce overall
3:31:08ghd emissions
3:31:12so people again came into the specific
3:31:14plan process at various different times
3:31:15so there was kind of a specific plan one
3:31:18um and that was one that we were doing
3:31:20with the city of richmond we were trying
3:31:21to look at both sides of the street and
3:31:22how would we um
3:31:24achieve that it came to city council and
3:31:27it did have a large working group and it
3:31:29was still a little bit shy of going high
3:31:32or reducing parking and so from what i
3:31:34understand it came to city council for a
3:31:35study session city council said go back
3:31:38figure out how to do more transit
3:31:40oriented form
3:31:41the redevelopment agency at the time
3:31:43actually got a grant to do some
3:31:45feasibility studies that did say if you
3:31:47want to attract that urban development
3:31:49that the 2006 study said you need to do
3:31:52to do good economic development and
3:31:54achieve your other goals you need to
3:31:55increase your height limits reduce
3:31:57parking requirements and be more
3:31:59flexible around ground floor commercial
3:32:01requirements at the time we require
3:32:02ground floor commercial along the entire
3:32:04corridor which is
3:32:06if you think of the corridor's history
3:32:08um it was a car you know people it was
3:32:10gas stations and it was a way to get to
3:32:12sacramento um i think often when i go to
3:32:15workshops and when i first started
3:32:16working on the avenue i would go to
3:32:19planning conferences and go to how do
3:32:20you revitalize a downtown and often that
3:32:22was a healdsburg or an arcata
3:32:25places that had
3:32:27downtowns that were built before the
3:32:28automobile
3:32:29so ours is actually a really different
3:32:31challenge to do a corridor and it's
3:32:33similar to el camino real is another
3:32:35similar challenge
3:32:37so specific plan 2 came around and we
3:32:39were able to get that
3:32:41bring that to you and have it adopted in
3:32:422014 so four years ago we didn't and we
3:32:46took those recommendations so we really
3:32:48one of the goals was we knew that in
3:32:49order to do this what we were really
3:32:50trying to attract attract was private
3:32:52investment and that it had to have some
3:32:54market sensibility to it
3:32:56so we increased height we reduced
3:32:59commercial ground floor requirements
3:33:01by allowing some ground floor
3:33:03residential we reduced parking
3:33:04requirements and we created more
3:33:06certainty in the review process
3:33:08importantly we also outed a complete
3:33:10streets component which helps round out
3:33:11the vision and also helped support the
3:33:13environmental impact report which at the
3:33:15time
3:33:16um vehicle miles traveled were still a
3:33:19deal when you did development so if you
3:33:20did this kind of development you might
3:33:21have to expand your roadway which of
3:33:23course doesn't necessarily fulfill some
3:33:25of the other goals um we can talk later
3:33:27about that's not
3:33:28true anymore um
3:33:31so here i'm saying sam pebble avenue
3:33:33specific plan one and two and when we're
3:33:35talking about an update i'm not talking
3:33:36about three um we don't have funding
3:33:38identified and we don't think that it's
3:33:40necessarily needed so i like to think
3:33:41about it more as 2.1 um
3:33:45uh so since the adoption um we've been
3:33:47um very busy um sometimes i like to uh
3:33:50say to folks that were developed we
3:33:52didn't have a develop we didn't have a
3:33:54development program because we didn't
3:33:55have a lot of development so the same
3:33:57time we've been approving these projects
3:33:58we've also been developing our
3:33:59development program
3:34:01um as you know many of these things have
3:34:02come before you and we just talked about
3:34:04them with the grant so we added
3:34:05inclusionary zoning we worked with the
3:34:07siege sanitary district to do a capacity
3:34:10fee to
3:34:11make that process more streamlined and
3:34:14certain
3:34:15the parking study the transportation
3:34:17impact fee and we have
3:34:18approved
3:34:2016
3:34:22projects uh we've received applications
3:34:24i believe
3:34:25for 16 projects uh representing sixteen
3:34:28hundred new housing units and nine new
3:34:30commercial spaces um you'll see
3:34:31sometimes these numbers how many new
3:34:33housing units is gonna flux a little bit
3:34:35whether we're talking about the eir and
3:34:37things that were approved before so
3:34:39there's a few different numbers but we
3:34:40decided today that we would just say
3:34:41it's a lot
3:34:42um
3:34:45so again here's that number how they
3:34:46kind of some interesting facts about the
3:34:48number of those projects you're seeing
3:34:49right there so the one on the top is
3:34:51mayfair it's the market rate where it
3:34:53meets the affordable and the open space
3:34:55with a commercial ground floor
3:34:58it's also the second one down
3:35:00is the
3:35:02space that formalizes the avila pathway
3:35:04plaza a commercial space at mcnevin
3:35:07north
3:35:08and the one on the bottom is the former
3:35:10play line out of the beach also with a
3:35:11ground floor commercial space
3:35:13um so we've approved 690
3:35:16new residential units and 910 more are
3:35:18proposed 67 of those are have been below
3:35:22market
3:35:22rate that have been approved
3:35:25658 are proposed and that's a
3:35:27combination of a very large affordable
3:35:29housing project density bonus project
3:35:31and inclusionary zoning we have a couple
3:35:32projects that have been submitted since
3:35:34you adopted inclusionary zoning
3:35:36and in those projects both where we
3:35:38required it and where we didn't require
3:35:40it commercial has been provided um
3:35:42totaling about 28 000 square feet of new
3:35:44commercial um uh and seven live
3:35:47workspaces and in our numbers we also
3:35:50have one hotel that we are reviewing and
3:35:52we expect to receive an application for
3:35:53another one
3:35:56um so these are just an example of the
3:35:59kind of
3:36:00projects we're seeing when when sean
3:36:02walks through it you'll see the
3:36:03architecture is very varied
3:36:05the design review board has been kind of
3:36:07the secret sauce in many ways i think
3:36:09that we have an excellent design review
3:36:10board and it's helped projects that have
3:36:12needed a little help and others are just
3:36:14excellent by their own right
3:36:16so the one on the left again up here is
3:36:19mcnevin north
3:36:20with the ground floor commercial mayfair
3:36:23uh this is uh the former play line not
3:36:25at the beach and to the left is i
3:36:28believe uh the trevino site
3:36:30i keep messi that one is the trevino
3:36:32site right you'll see that architect is
3:36:34also working on the marty motors site
3:36:36across the street and it's a very
3:36:37similar
3:36:38look
3:36:40um i think a really interesting thing to
3:36:41think about because some of this is
3:36:43going to be provided by private
3:36:44development well this is some aspects
3:36:47that are provided by private development
3:36:48implementation of the specific plan of
3:36:50course is also going to require a lot of
3:36:51public improvements but this is the kind
3:36:53of things that are coming along with the
3:36:54private development so
3:36:57nearly
3:36:58three quarters of an acre of new public
3:36:59open space in the form of different
3:37:00kinds of plazas
3:37:02and uh three-quarters of a million
3:37:04dollars and in luffy's to be used on a
3:37:07public open space
3:37:0911 new on-site public art projects i
3:37:11think that's really fun to imagine
3:37:14going up and down the avenue i'm really
3:37:15glad that we're developing
3:37:17now when we have these kind of
3:37:18sensibilities in fact i think it's a
3:37:20really good time to be developing
3:37:21because i think that kind of urbanism is
3:37:24better than it would have been if we did
3:37:25this 25 years ago
3:37:26um
3:37:28there's a lot of really cool rooftop
3:37:30common open spaces there's a lot of
3:37:32street activation which was a real goal
3:37:33how does san pablo avenue feel walkable
3:37:36so one of it is to activate the ground
3:37:37floor we have very high transparency
3:37:39requirements on the ground floor and
3:37:41you'll see there's a lot of
3:37:42street-facing balconies
3:37:44which is i think unusual when i look up
3:37:46and down san pablo avenue in
3:37:48other communities
3:37:49um
3:37:50most of the projects will be doing
3:37:52sidewalk frontage improvements and we're
3:37:53going to be looking at how to um a vet
3:37:55can talk more about that but we're
3:37:56looking at more how to how to both get
3:37:58complete streets done through those
3:38:00frontage improvements at least make
3:38:01their improvements consistent with
3:38:02complete streets and maybe even look at
3:38:04ways to get green infrastructure into
3:38:06those going forward
3:38:07um and lastly just the approved
3:38:09residential projects are paying we'll be
3:38:12paying 1.6 million dollars in those new
3:38:14transportation impact fees so really
3:38:15bringing resources to realize the vision
3:38:18um
3:38:19again uh next the picture on the bottom
3:38:21is hannah garden's next door rendering
3:38:23and now you can see it in real life
3:38:25and this is the new creek and open space
3:38:27next to metro 510
3:38:30and with that i'm going to pass it on to
3:38:31yvette to talk about complete streets
3:38:36hello good evening council members
3:38:39i just wanted to give you some
3:38:40highlights of the complete street
3:38:41section of the specific plan
3:38:44the complete street section the specific
3:38:46plan provided goals design concepts and
3:38:49standards for implementing pedestrian
3:38:52bicycle and transit improvements along
3:38:54san pablo avenue to make it a more
3:38:57livable
3:38:58corridor walkable corridor
3:39:01some of the key goals of the plan are
3:39:04shown here
3:39:05i wanted to highlight a few of those in
3:39:07general the complete streets
3:39:09improvements are intended to encourage a
3:39:11moat shift
3:39:13to walking
3:39:14biking and taking transit and away from
3:39:17automobiles but we also are we will also
3:39:20be implementing some traffic circulation
3:39:23improvements to help alleviate some of
3:39:25the congestion at hot spots around led
3:39:27north of bart station
3:39:30one of the goals is also to build on
3:39:32other recent investments along the
3:39:34avenue including the rain gardens
3:39:36the medians the sidewalk improvements
3:39:40and enhancing and catalyzing economic
3:39:42development by preserving and enhancing
3:39:44parking where possible and also allowing
3:39:47sidewalks to function for commercial
3:39:50activity by allowing outdoor dining
3:39:54we also want to welcome and accommodate
3:39:56users with a range of needs and
3:39:58abilities
3:40:03in terms of design concepts
3:40:05before i introduce it i wanted to talk
3:40:07to you about what san pablo avenue looks
3:40:08like today melanie mentioned it it's
3:40:10very auto focused
3:40:12the lanes are wide they're currently 13
3:40:15feet wide there's a few crossings and
3:40:18there's no bikeways along san pablo
3:40:20avenue along its entire length
3:40:23the concept that the concepts that were
3:40:25developed as part of the complete
3:40:26streets was to change that
3:40:28by
3:40:30maintaining the current travel lanes but
3:40:32reducing their width to calm traffic
3:40:34speeds
3:40:35minimizing the loss of on-street parking
3:40:38to support existing
3:40:39and new business activity
3:40:42but also recognizing that pedestrians
3:40:44and bicyclists are also customers and
3:40:47providing new facilities for those new
3:40:50customers
3:40:51so we will
3:40:52some of the improvements that are
3:40:54proposed as part of the complete streets
3:40:55will remove
3:40:57parking at limited locations so that we
3:40:59can implement curveball bouts and
3:41:01improve safety for pedestrians and
3:41:03bicyclists by providing more clearance
3:41:06like red curb to provide better sight
3:41:08lines between drivers and pedestrians
3:41:10and
3:41:11bicyclists at driveways so there will be
3:41:13some limited
3:41:15parking removal to accommodate those
3:41:16safety improvements
3:41:18the concept also called for widening
3:41:21sidewalks along with private property
3:41:23frontage improvements and widening the
3:41:26sidewalk will allow us to activate the
3:41:28sidewalk as well as additional amenities
3:41:31and providing a clear path of travel
3:41:33through
3:41:34the sidewalk area
3:41:36the concept also calls for adding more
3:41:39and safer crosswalks along san pablo
3:41:41avenue crossing sao pablo avenue so
The community development director reviewed the San Pablo Avenue plan's results.
Her measure of success: “you haven't seen any of the projects that have been approved through the entitlement” — they met the code and needed no Council action.
Her history: the first specific plan effort, with Richmond, was sent back by the Council to find a more transit-oriented form, and feasibility studies said the city needed to “increase your height limits reduce parking requirements and be more flexible around ground floor commercial requirements.”
Her history: the avenue was built for cars — “gas stations, and it was a way to get to Sacramento.”
Ground floor commercial was then required along the whole corridor. The 2014 plan increased height, allowed some ground floor residential, reduced parking requirements and created “more certainty in the review process.”
Since then: 16 projects representing about 1,600 units and nine new commercial spaces; 690 units approved and 910 proposed, with 67 below market rate approved and 658 proposed; about 28,000 square feet of commercial; and $1.6 million in transportation impact fees. The plan's EIR is “nearing capacity.”
Some history: the city took back San Pablo Avenue's sidewalks from Caltrans, which made the wayfinding signs possible, with help from then-Assemblywoman Loni Hancock.
And a story: when Trader Joe's considered El Cerrito, the city was in “trailers that were falling apart,” and the company asked “why would we invest in this town” when the city did not invest in itself — which prompted the new City Hall.
The update would be “2.1,” not a new plan: “we don't have funding identified and we don't think that it's necessarily needed.”
Private development would deliver “nearly three quarters of an acre of new public open space.”
The director measures the plan's success by the fact that projects approved under it have not come to the Council: “you haven't seen any of the projects that have been approved through the entitlement” process, meaning none has been appealed.
17 Far-side bus islands captions 6050–6549
3:41:44we'll be adding more mid-block crossings
3:41:46and adding more
3:41:48safety features most of our
3:41:51crosswalks a lot of the crosswalks along
3:41:53san pablo avenue are uncontrolled
3:41:55current standards call for them to be
3:41:58at least include some
3:42:00flashing beacons like you we see at
3:42:02lincoln and madison and as we've
3:42:04installed along the alone greenway so
3:42:06the complete streets improvements call
3:42:08for
3:42:09making crossings safer
3:42:12we also are
3:42:14proposing to install far side far side
3:42:17bus islands and what that does is
3:42:19improve transit times
3:42:21by
3:42:22minimizing the time that buses have to
3:42:25to come in and out of traffic so it
3:42:27improves at transit times and
3:42:29reliability
3:42:36finally the last improvement um
3:42:38is adding several types of bikeways as i
3:42:41mentioned before there are no bikeways
3:42:43but the cross sections along san pablo
3:42:44avenue vary so the specific plan called
3:42:47for a variety of bikeways shared
3:42:49bikeways
3:42:50bike lanes and protected bike lanes
3:42:56since the
3:42:57specific plan was adopted city staff has
3:43:00been working
3:43:01very hard
3:43:02seeking out opportunities to implement
3:43:05the complete streets improvements
3:43:07first this included applying for and
3:43:09securing various fund sources we did
3:43:11secure about 7.7 million in grants to do
3:43:16the uptown area improvements and i'll
3:43:18talk about that a little bit later
3:43:20we've also coordinated closely with
3:43:22community development
3:43:24on securing additional
3:43:27fair share contributions from
3:43:28development projects before the
3:43:30transportation impact fee was adopted
3:43:32and working with the planning commission
3:43:34on public benefits contributions to
3:43:36complete streets
3:43:38we've also coordinated with the west
3:43:40contra costa transportation advisory
3:43:42committee as they're updating their sub
3:43:44regional transportation mitigation fee
3:43:45program to make sure that our el cerrito
3:43:48projects that serve this area are
3:43:50included in that project list
3:43:52and um we worked to
3:43:55present to you the city's transportation
3:43:57impact fee that was adopted in january
3:44:00and will go into effect in february
3:44:03in addition we've been working with
3:44:04other agency stakeholders
3:44:07such as the
3:44:08alameda county transportation commission
3:44:11who's looking at
3:44:13the whole corridor san pablo avenue
3:44:15between oakland and
3:44:18and san pablo to look at how do we
3:44:20coordinate
3:44:22best
3:44:23improvements along the corridor
3:44:26finally we've gotten additional grants
3:44:28to do further design development and
3:44:31as part of that we've been reaching out
3:44:33to the community and police fire our
3:44:36bike east bay various groups to refine
3:44:39the designs along sao paulo avenue
3:44:43so i wanted to walk you through two of
3:44:45the areas that we're working on right
3:44:46now the midtown area and then the uptown
3:44:48area
3:44:49in terms of the midtown area um
3:44:52the midtown area is the segment between
3:44:54potaro to lincoln patera on the north
3:44:56lincoln to the south
3:44:58we received a safe routes to transit
3:45:00grant to evaluate that design it
3:45:03includes pedestrian improvements such as
3:45:04curb billboats the flashing lights i was
3:45:06talking to you about
3:45:08a new bikeway and the bus islands
3:45:11because because the midtown section of
3:45:14san pablo avenue is the widest curb to
3:45:16curb it provided an opportunity to do a
3:45:19higher
3:45:20class of bikeway and initially the san
3:45:23pablo avenue identified the opportunity
3:45:26to install a protected bikeway so a
3:45:29bikeway that's protected by parking so
3:45:31the bikeway is in between the curb
3:45:34and parking so parking's moved out
3:45:36towards the travel lane
3:45:38we did find uh some significant um
3:45:42constraints with that concept
3:45:44based on
3:45:46our ability to
3:45:48both meet current design standards and
3:45:51uh stakeholder requirements for
3:45:54emergency vehicle clearance
3:45:56accessible ada accessible paths to the
3:45:59new parking and so
3:46:01based on what we found and based on
3:46:04the san pablo avenue specific plan also
3:46:07allowed for the city to consider
3:46:09installation of buffered bike lanes
3:46:11instead of the separated bike lane
3:46:13if there were cost implications and
3:46:15other operations and maintenance
3:46:17concerns
3:46:18so at this point we are
3:46:20likely moving forward with the buffered
3:46:22bike lane concept that is a bikeway
3:46:25that's and it's kind of in
3:46:27the traditional place so you still have
3:46:30your curb then you have your
3:46:33parking
3:46:34then you have a bike lane and you have a
3:46:36stripe buffer to protect the bike lane
3:46:38from the travel lane
3:46:40um so that's the concept we're moving
3:46:41forward with but also integrating that
3:46:44with a bus island
3:46:46which you see on the left side of the
3:46:49top left corner of the
3:46:52of the slide
3:46:56let's see
3:47:01that's the next the next project we've
3:47:02been working on is the project that we
3:47:04did secure the funding for
3:47:07we're also using developer contributions
3:47:10for uptown that
3:47:12for this project is known as the it's a
3:47:14long name so let me read it the el
3:47:16cerrito that not the transit oriented
3:47:18development complete streets improvement
3:47:20project i tend to name my projects
3:47:23too long i need shorter names
3:47:25but um
3:47:26so this project is basically covering
3:47:28all of like del norte
3:47:32san pablo from
3:47:34the northern city limit all the way to
3:47:35potrero this is just a
3:47:38section of it it includes cutting
3:47:41boulevard from i-80 to key
3:47:44hill street um from sao paulo to the
3:47:46oloni as well as east shore from san
3:47:49pablo to petrero
3:47:52the concept here is what was developed
3:47:54in the specific plan is we're converting
3:47:56cutting from the one-way to two-way for
3:47:59both buses which currently can travel
3:48:02both ways um to also serve automobiles
3:48:05that simplifies the circulation around
3:48:07the station and allows us to repurpose
3:48:10the dual left turns and
3:48:12convert that from a dual left turn to a
3:48:14single left turn so that we can
3:48:15accommodate other pedestrian and bicycle
3:48:18improvements along san pablo avenue
3:48:22staff anticipates beginning this process
3:48:25later this year we have to go through
3:48:27the caltrans project development
3:48:29approval process because
3:48:30most of the san pablo avenue is a
3:48:33straight route in this segment south of
3:48:35cutting
3:48:37and then working through the permitting
3:48:39process through
3:48:402021 and design in 20 to
3:48:442022
3:48:45when the when the funding becomes
3:48:47available
3:48:48we're also currently looking at
3:48:49opportunities for green infrastructure
3:48:51grounds because the project that was
3:48:52approved so far is really transportation
3:48:55focused and we do have opportunities
3:48:57though at this point to add bioretention
3:49:00facilities in these key areas
3:49:03i'll turn it back to melanie
3:49:07and i'm going to uh so of course um a
3:49:11couple things to point out while sean's
3:49:12coming up he will be taking this part so
3:49:14uh councilmember lyman brought up the
3:49:16table that i passed out and it sounds
3:49:18like it was an attachment attachment one
3:49:22the new one
3:49:23i took out some things which i can
3:49:25describe and should have not taken out
3:49:27um but what i did add was in the first
3:49:29column um the common name so it's easier
3:49:32to follow uh sean also has some nifty
3:49:34transitions in here so we'll be
3:49:35orienting you on the map
3:49:38but
3:49:40as you're listening to him and watching
3:49:41these this table also intended to
3:49:44show you i can point out on that parking
3:49:46question council member lyman
3:49:49where it says extra tdm those are the
3:49:52only ones that went under
3:49:54the amount and that column that you
3:49:56asked about before was the maximum it
3:49:58wasn't the range so we should have we
3:49:59will put that column back in but when it
3:50:01said one and a half it meant one to one
3:50:03and a half
3:50:05so you'll see those the only projects
3:50:07that actually went under their parking
3:50:10by right range were in the transit
3:50:12oriented mid intensity which is i think
3:50:14interesting because they have one to one
3:50:16and a half and you can see most of them
3:50:17there's a 0.68 0.8 0.87
3:50:20so it speaks to that projects when we
3:50:22talk about what's feasible they like
3:50:24going there's many projects that like
3:50:25going under one and that's whether
3:50:27they're
3:50:29within a half a mile apart where it's
3:50:30allowed by right or whether they're in
3:50:32the in beach in the
3:50:34mid intensity their costs are the same
3:50:36right construction costs are the same
3:50:38and it looks like they're not seeing
3:50:39that much of a
3:50:40of a difference anyway so just to kind
3:50:42of orient you towards that um and i
3:50:44think sean's we'll also talk about their
3:50:46level of provided parking but
3:50:53thank you good evening council members
3:50:55um
3:50:56so actually i'm just i'm gonna go back
3:50:58to just the regular round
3:51:01so i have kind of a fun part of the
3:51:02presentation i get to show you all the
3:51:04cool projects that have been approved
3:51:06and are in the pipeline and fancy
3:51:08renderings of them
3:51:10um so this is the development map i
3:51:13realize it doesn't show up very well at
3:51:15this scale so we'll there'll be blow-ups
3:51:17in the presentation um one thing i do
3:51:19want to draw your attention to i'm not
3:51:22going to refer very much to street types
3:51:23but i am going to refer to the to the
3:51:25two different districts so the the
3:51:27darker areas here and here are the
3:51:30transit oriented higher intensity mixed
3:51:32use district and the lighter areas in
3:51:35between are the transit oriented mid
3:51:37intensity mixed use district
3:51:42yeah and the yes and the the main
3:51:45differences in those two zones being the
3:51:48permitted uh building height and the
3:51:50permitted parking ratio
3:51:53um so we'll start off here
3:51:55um with project this is number one so
3:51:58it's brown on the map which shows that
3:52:00it's under construction
3:52:02located on the corner of eureka and san
3:52:04pablo avenue you may know that it as the
3:52:07site of the former guitar center
3:52:10project looks like this it was recently
3:52:12re-entitled it went through some
3:52:13revisions to revise the exterior
3:52:15materials and colors
3:52:17so what you're seeing here was recently
3:52:19approved uh by the design review board a
3:52:21couple weeks ago
3:52:22it includes 32 units two of those are
3:52:25live work units that are um located
3:52:27along the front here along the uh san
3:52:29pablo avenue along the at the corner
3:52:31with eureka
3:52:33there are two public plazas one located
3:52:35here at san pablo avenue one located at
3:52:37the back of the site at the corner of
3:52:39eureka and kearney
3:52:41um 32 parking spaces it was a tier 4
3:52:44design review project
3:52:46the public benefit for this project was
3:52:48that it provided a contribution towards
3:52:50the improvements at centennial park that
3:52:52were recently completed
3:52:57next project is here it's letter i
3:53:00this is at 109 63 san pablo avenue
3:53:04former site of playland not at the beach
3:53:07it includes it looks like this it
3:53:09includes 50 units
3:53:1134 parking spaces this was a tier 2
3:53:14design review project meaning it only
3:53:18was up
3:53:19the design review was only approved by
3:53:21the design review board
3:53:22meaning it didn't request any exceptions
3:53:26to the uh standards the development
3:53:28standards in the in the code um it
3:53:30includes some public open space on the
3:53:32side that's on the corner of san pablo
3:53:34avenue and jefferson avenue
3:53:36it includes some public open space on
3:53:38the on the jefferson side
3:53:40um and i think this is one of melanie's
3:53:42favorite projects i think it does
3:53:44provide a really strong architecture
3:53:46it's one of my favorites also
3:53:51um
3:53:52so next we have uh d which is 10192 san
3:53:56pablo avenue that's uh the former site
3:53:58of rob's auto um corner of san pablo
3:54:01avenue and lincoln avenue or yeah
3:54:0526 units so this one was also recently
3:54:07re-entitled the design review board
3:54:09recently approved
3:54:10at their january 24th meeting approved
3:54:13some changes to this it was a re it was
3:54:15originally approved as 21 units
3:54:19the developer
3:54:21was having a difficult time making that
3:54:24scale of project
3:54:26pencil as the market has has changed a
3:54:28bit since it was originally approved and
3:54:30so they came back uh with a proposal for
3:54:33five additional units and addition
3:54:35additional story excuse me um so that's
3:54:38what you see here this is the the
3:54:40recently uh approved project
3:54:4226 units 22 parking spaces
3:54:45it was tier two so just reviewed by the
3:54:47design review board
3:54:52next we have the mayfair site so that's
3:54:55right next to the del norte bart station
3:54:59that is 233 units including 67
3:55:02affordable units
3:55:03145 parking spaces
3:55:07it was a tier 4 design review project so
3:55:09the public benefit for this project was
3:55:11the affordable units
3:55:13and
3:55:14additional public open space so
3:55:17what you can't see in this rendering
3:55:19very well but melanie had it shown
3:55:21better in some previous renderings is
3:55:23that between so
3:55:25this is the
3:55:27market rate component of the project
3:55:29this is uh the affordable units in a
3:55:32separate building and between those two
3:55:34there is a public open space mid-block
3:55:36connection that will connect from san
3:55:39pablo avenue through the block
3:55:41towards the ohlone greenway
3:55:46h is a village at town center so this
3:55:48was an infill project this is 40 units
3:55:52just a couple doors down here at the
3:55:53village at town center
3:55:55so you you might recognize this portion
3:55:58of the of the
3:55:59site is existing
3:56:02this is where
3:56:05the sylvan learning center is and mr
3:56:07pickles
3:56:08some other businesses
3:56:10so
3:56:11village at town center
3:56:13the owner of the site realized when the
3:56:16specific plan was adopted that the site
3:56:18was was over parked
3:56:20that they were no longer required to
3:56:21provide as much parking and so
3:56:25uh mayor
3:56:27may i put a motion to extend the meeting
3:56:29for another 15 minutes second
3:56:32okay motion by quinto seconded by
3:56:34abelson all in favor hi hi opposed
3:56:37motion carries can please continue
3:56:41so they um came with a proposal to
3:56:43repurpose some of the existing parking
3:56:45lot into a new building that would
3:56:47provide some residential units as well
3:56:49as some parking so it's 40 units 40 new
3:56:52units 32 new parking spaces
3:56:54it was tier 4 design review so its
3:56:57public benefit
3:57:00was a contribution to uh
3:57:03small contribution towards bike racks on
3:57:05san pablo avenue as well as centennial
3:57:07park improvements
3:57:10you have a value for that
3:57:12um i do it was 75 000
3:57:18and
3:57:19the one at guitar center was uh fifty
3:57:21thousand dollars
3:57:23um
3:57:25this is 10167 san pablo so this is the
3:57:28southern portion of what we refer to as
3:57:30the mcnevin site
3:57:32um it looks like this um
3:57:3562 units 31 parking spaces it was tier 2
3:57:38design review
3:57:40uh and then next uh the next slide
3:57:42you'll see is um the other
3:57:45two thirds of that site which is where
3:57:47this this white
3:57:48um kind of block here is meant to kind
3:57:50of depict the other project
3:57:53um so that's here that's j
3:57:56and that looks like this so the so the
3:57:58one you just saw is is this box here um
3:58:02they didn't have have enough to include
3:58:04the projects in each other's renderings
3:58:06but their um kind of massing is included
3:58:10so this project melanie also had some
3:58:11good slides of this it includes a public
3:58:14plaza along the existing
3:58:16cut through at avila street
3:58:19it does also include
3:58:22some ground floor commercial
3:58:25for about 4 500 square feet of ground
3:58:28floor commercial
3:58:30um in a location where that is not
3:58:32required and i should have added
3:58:33actually the play land not at the beach
3:58:36um includes about three thousand square
3:58:38feet of commercial where it was enough
3:58:39for a restaurant
3:58:42could could be a restaurant yeah um i i
3:58:45know these this this project in
3:58:46particular
3:58:48um had looked at including a restaurant
3:58:50in earlier stages and having roof access
3:58:53the that
3:58:54that was changed for various reasons but
3:58:56i think that they might still be
3:58:58interested in having a restaurant
3:59:02921 kearney street this is uh this is a
3:59:05project is a little bit different
3:59:06because it's on a neighborhood street
3:59:08all the projects you've seen so far have
3:59:10been on san pablo avenue
3:59:12um
3:59:13this you know as we get into the um
3:59:17areas of the update for this um
3:59:20to the specific plan we'll talk a little
3:59:22bit more about neighborhood streets and
3:59:24daylight planes and things
3:59:26some of those things are kind of lessons
3:59:28learned from this project
3:59:31the
3:59:32design review board
3:59:34has realized that i think this is not
3:59:36necessarily the ideal frontage type or
3:59:39the kind of the ideal frontage for that
3:59:41neighborhood street context and so
3:59:43there's been a lot of discussion about
3:59:45this project it's 69 units 51 parking
3:59:48spaces
3:59:49it's currently in review
3:59:51by the design review board
3:59:55three is uh
3:59:571010919 san pablo avenue former site of
3:59:59marty's motors
4:00:01i think this is also very strong
4:00:02architecture it also includes a
4:00:05commercial where it's not required it
4:00:08includes
4:00:10about 2 300 square feet of new
4:00:12commercial in addition to 85 units and
4:00:1478 parking spaces
4:00:17it's tier four
4:00:19so they are asking for some exceptions
4:00:22we've not
4:00:23kind of completed the discussion with
4:00:25them about what the public benefit is
4:00:26but there will be a public benefit
4:00:28provided by this project
4:00:33so 11965 san pablo avenue former site of
4:00:36taco bell
4:00:38this project is currently in review
4:00:40144 units this is a density bonus
4:00:43project so it's a little bit different
4:00:44the applicant is providing
4:00:47is proposing
4:00:48a certain amount of uh units that would
4:00:52be
4:00:53affordable to low-income households
4:00:56that qualifies them for a state density
Staff described street improvements and the project list.
Crossings: more mid-block crossings, and flashing beacons at uncontrolled crosswalks, as at Lincoln and Madison.
Far-side bus islands would “improve transit times.”
Since the plan's adoption the city had secured about $7.7 million in grants for the uptown area, collected fair-share contributions from developers, and adopted a transportation impact fee taking effect in February. In the uptown project, Cutting Boulevard would change from one-way to two-way for cars, allowing the dual left turns onto San Pablo to become one and freeing space for pedestrians and bicycles, with Caltrans approval, permitting and design running through 2022 as funding allows. Staff also noted that projects in the mid-intensity district were choosing parking below the range allowed by right.
Projects: the former Guitar Center at Eureka, under construction; a 50-unit building with 34 parking spaces at Jefferson, approved by the Design Review Board alone.
Two high- and mid-intensity districts differ in permitted height and parking.
A parking-protected bikeway was studied but ran into “emergency vehicle clearance” and ADA access constraints, so other designs were considered.
Park improvement contributions ranged from $50,000 to $75,000; 10167 San Pablo, part of the McNevin site, had 62 units and 31 spaces.
Others in the pipeline: 26 units and 22 spaces at the former Rob's Auto; Mayfair, by Del Norte BART, with 233 units including 67 affordable and 145 spaces; 921 Kearney Street, 69 units and 51 spaces, on a neighborhood street; and 85 units with 78 spaces at the former Marty's Motors.
18 A million for affordable housing captions 6550–6849
4:00:58bonus so
4:00:59under the specific plan that increases
4:01:02their
4:01:03their permitted height from 65 feet to
4:01:0585 feet
4:01:07so they do get a couple of extra stories
4:01:09in essence
4:01:11so they are proposing an eight-story
4:01:13building um in line with that 144 units
4:01:17uh 75 parking spaces it's because it's
4:01:20density bonus even though they are
4:01:23sort of asking for exceptions those
4:01:25exceptions come under the um the waivers
4:01:28and uh
4:01:29and concessions
4:01:31part of that state the density bonus
4:01:33state law um so it's technically not a
4:01:35tier four process it comes under our
4:01:37tier two design review um does not need
4:01:40uh exceptions from the planning
4:01:41commission
4:01:43um so this is the this is uh 1755 east
4:01:47shore um this is at the former site of
4:01:50osh
4:01:51um this project is 100 proposed as 100
4:01:55uh affordable
4:01:57it's 628 units it has zero parking
4:02:01spaces um so i'm i
4:02:03at the end i'll kind of wrap up by
4:02:06talking about the
4:02:08about four and a half projects that um
4:02:11that
4:02:12are under the parking the permitted
4:02:14parking ratios this is the this is the
4:02:16half of a project and this that's
4:02:18because this is a density bonus project
4:02:20so parking is one of the concessions and
4:02:22i'll explain that in a little bit
4:02:25um but only only parking for this
4:02:28project is a small number of um
4:02:31ride share pickup spaces
4:02:34that's true and it's um and this project
4:02:37so you might notice 628 units is this is
4:02:41not on the the list of capacity for the
4:02:43existing specific plan eir 628 units
4:02:47would exceed that capacity so this
4:02:48project will
4:02:50have to do its own environmental
4:02:51document separate from the specific plan
4:02:54eir
4:02:57six is uh 11795 san pablo avenue a
4:03:01former site of trevino's
4:03:03also called wall
4:03:05avenue studios
4:03:07that's 130 units 92 parking spaces it's
4:03:10tier two design review i think this also
4:03:12has very strong architecture um there's
4:03:15also
4:03:16um let's see where's that one um
4:03:18[Music]
4:03:20well uh yeah about 3700 square feet of
4:03:24commercial
4:03:25um in that location and um i also i just
4:03:29like this one how the the roof line is
4:03:32kind of softened by the the landscaping
4:03:34above for the the rooftop deck a lot of
4:03:36these projects have rooftop decks for
4:03:39residents
4:03:41in addition to public open space
4:03:43requirements for a lot of them
4:03:46this is this is the last one this is
4:03:4911060 san pablo avenue so the site of
4:03:52the existing
4:03:53big five
4:03:56this is 173 units
4:03:59185 parking spaces
4:04:02at both grade and underground
4:04:04the site stretches all the way from san
4:04:06pablo avenue to the ohlone greenway so
4:04:08part of the public open space is a
4:04:10mid-block connection that will connect
4:04:12san pablo avenue and the ohlone greenway
4:04:14in this location
4:04:16this is two buildings um
4:04:18this project also has uh i think very
4:04:20strong architecture this this project
4:04:22was um also approved uh unanimously by
4:04:25the design review board uh at their last
4:04:28meeting and they they uh really liked
4:04:29the architecture of this project
4:04:32oh yeah that's true um and so the so the
4:04:34public this is a tier four project um oh
4:04:37i'm sorry it says tier two design review
4:04:39it should say tier four design review um
4:04:41it exceeds uh the normal height um the
4:04:44normal permitted height in the
4:04:46mid intensity district
4:04:48it's more in line with the heights
4:04:50permitted in the high intensity district
4:04:53and then
4:04:54it would cast shadow across the ohlone
4:04:56greenway on the winter solstice at
4:04:58certain times
4:04:59so those are two exceptions
4:05:01so the public benefit for this project
4:05:03is a million dollars
4:05:05million dollar contribution towards the
4:05:06city's affordable housing trust fund
4:05:09seven hundred thousand dollars towards
4:05:10uh complete streets components of the
4:05:12specific plan
4:05:14and
4:05:15um
4:05:16a bike stop a publicly accessible bike
4:05:19stop along the ohlone greenway um so
4:05:21that'll have uh
4:05:23amenities like some bike fix it a bike
4:05:25bike fix it area some tools that the
4:05:27public will be able to use um perhaps a
4:05:30vending machine where you'll be able to
4:05:31buy parts like bike tubes and things
4:05:33like that they'll have a small
4:05:34kitchenette and a bathroom and that'll
4:05:36be accessible from 7am to 7pm
4:05:39during
4:05:40um
4:05:42yeah yeah they're looking for the the
4:05:44applicant is looking for a a non-profit
4:05:46to operate that
4:05:48but it'll be open from 7am to 7pm so
4:05:50during commute hours
4:05:53um so that
4:05:55concludes my kind of walk through the
4:05:57projects
4:05:59as i said i just wanted to
4:06:01kind of highlight because it came up in
4:06:03council member lyman's comments earlier
4:06:07there are three projects
4:06:09that i identified or i'm sorry four
4:06:11projects that i identified um that
4:06:14um were
4:06:16that have come on come in under the
4:06:18permitted parking range
4:06:20um so that's uh playland not at the the
4:06:23site of playland not at the beach
4:06:26[Music]
4:06:27the site of the village at town center
4:06:30infill project
4:06:32the wall street studios
4:06:35and marty's motors the former side of
4:06:38marty's motors
4:06:39no i'm sorry 921 kearney yeah sorry i
4:06:41was reading around the line um
4:06:44so those sites uh i think all of those
4:06:46sites are in the mid-intensity district
4:06:48so the buy right range
4:06:50is
4:06:52one space to one and a half spaces per
4:06:54unit
4:06:55um they've all come in below one space
4:06:58um but they've it's notable that they've
4:07:00all come in above half a space so half a
4:07:03space is what's permitted in the high
4:07:05intensity district and all these all
4:07:07these projects
4:07:08have come in in that range
4:07:11and
4:07:12as part of the parking reduction process
4:07:15they've all done parking studies
4:07:17transportation demand management
4:07:18measures that have been implemented as
4:07:20part of the projects to manage the the
4:07:23demand for parking in those projects um
4:07:25and then the the half i said it was kind
4:07:27of four and a half so the half is the
4:07:29ash project which i said um is proposing
4:07:32no basically no parking
4:07:35that is again a density bonus project
4:07:38so we're
4:07:39required to
4:07:41grant certain concessions and and
4:07:43waivers
4:07:44um to our development standards for
4:07:46projects that provide a certain amount
4:07:48of affordable housing under state law so
4:07:50that project is under that process is
4:07:53proposing to provide basically no
4:07:55parking just some uh some parking spaces
4:07:58for pickup and drop off of ride share
4:08:00vehicles
4:08:02to build on that we are working with the
4:08:04city attorney we still think so it's the
4:08:06state density bonus laws do allow them
4:08:09to define their concessions and waivers
4:08:11um so we're trying to figure out can we
4:08:13still require what can we still require
4:08:15um and so that will be
4:08:16you know that has gone to some study
4:08:18sessions but hasn't gone for a hearing
4:08:20and as sean said is going through its
4:08:21own environmental review process um
4:08:25we have said we think that's a very
4:08:26large project to not do any parking um
4:08:30while we're moving you know so the other
4:08:32thing i'd like to just point out while
4:08:34we're talking about parking and moving
4:08:35forward i just did a quick total because
4:08:37it looked like it wasn't there's about
4:08:38841
4:08:40new parking spaces created by the kind
4:08:42of proposed and approved projects right
4:08:44now and taking out the 600 unit
4:08:47applied for project it looks like the
4:08:49average ratio is about 0.8 per unit just
4:08:53to give you kind of a a sense of that
4:08:58so we will i'm going to right now go
4:09:01forward with something and to show you
4:09:02putting together what sean and yvette
4:09:03just did we had steve price from urban
4:09:05advantage put together you know the
4:09:07renderings when the architect does them
4:09:09kind of floating in space with um just
4:09:11kind of the massing of the other
4:09:12projects nearby i don't show you what
4:09:13it's going to look like on the street so
4:09:14we wanted we chose three different
4:09:16locations where we had actual approved
4:09:18projects um so these weren't you know a
4:09:20lot of times when you see
4:09:22photo simulation photo simulations you
4:09:24see
4:09:26kind of
4:09:27a dreamy something dreamy um these are
4:09:30actually approved projects uh he got
4:09:31their
4:09:343d models
4:09:35so here is what a vet spoke about this
4:09:37is of course
4:09:39this is cutting or hilt cutting so this
4:09:40is a cutting and these are
4:09:42steve also got um the proposed plans
4:09:45from a vet so that would be if we just
4:09:47did our streetscape improvements this is
4:09:49when you put in the mayfair project
4:09:51and the next one that's going to come up
4:09:52has actually been redesigned but it's
4:09:54about the same size but it's um getting
4:09:56design review board is asked for some
4:09:57changes um so that's the hotel
4:10:00um we're also trying to work with both
4:10:02of them kind of less
4:10:03to try to move in some green
4:10:04infrastructure onto their sidewalks to
4:10:06treat public runoff we will see the next
4:10:08one is not happening um
4:10:11that we know of but steve couldn't help
4:10:13but imagine if churches changed and
4:10:16actually followed our code so i want to
4:10:17show you that the code permits
4:10:19us to look like the place that you want
4:10:21but people still get to choose what they
4:10:22do with their properties so this is what
4:10:24it would look like
4:10:27and so as so a pretty big transformation
4:10:30but even
4:10:31without that a pretty big transformation
4:10:35um this is downtown um right north of
4:10:38central so between popeyes and burger
4:10:41king
4:10:42um so you can see two projects here so
4:10:44you can see uh mcnevin's south um the
4:10:46one on the east side of the street and
4:10:48in the back here you can see rob's otto
4:10:50um also um coming
4:10:54oh i'm sorry we did end up switching it
4:10:56that's why i thought so the first one
4:10:57you're seeing is mcnevin north which is
4:10:58the project right next to avila
4:11:01with rob's auto
4:11:03and then the next one that you're seeing
4:11:05is mcnevin south
4:11:07um and then you see the trees grow and
4:11:09part of so that of course requires uh
4:11:11maintenance and
4:11:12uh irrigation but one of the things that
4:11:14steve likes to point out is sometimes we
4:11:16look at these buildings in isolation and
4:11:17not really in the streetscape you don't
4:11:19see the whole building all the time and
4:11:21then you can also see the sharrow which
4:11:22that wasn't able to speak about
4:11:24but that's the proposed complete sheets
4:11:26measure down on the south end where the
4:11:27right-of-way is limited we promised ac
4:11:30transit we wouldn't do that it's not
4:11:31their favorite treatment
4:11:33unless the other things were done and
4:11:34it's a kind of the next move
4:11:36so here we are in midtown
4:11:39um
Larger projects and their public benefits were reviewed.
A 100 percent affordable project at the former OSH site, 628 units with only ride-share pickup spaces — a density bonus project, where parking was a concession. It exceeds the plan EIR's capacity and needs its own environmental review; staff said “that's a very large project to not do any parking.”
Another project requesting exceptions, including shadow on the Ohlone Greenway at the winter solstice, offered public benefits: $1 million to the affordable housing trust fund, $700,000 for complete streets, and a public bike stop on the greenway.
Four projects in the mid-intensity district came in under its by-right range of one to one and a half spaces per unit, all between half a space and one; across approved and proposed projects, apart from the OSH project, the average was about 0.8 spaces per unit.
The director showed what the code would permit if churches and other sites redeveloped.
One project's public benefit for its exceptions, including winter-solstice shadow on the Ohlone Greenway: $1 million to the affordable housing trust fund, $700,000 for complete streets, and a public bike stop on the greenway.
19 Dumbbells don't go on BART captions 6850–7200
4:11:40you can see the double decker bus
4:11:43comes in
4:11:44um you've been seeing them on the road
4:11:46and then you can see the project um
4:11:48playland out of the beach and uh the
4:11:50former big five uh griffin project
4:11:53and then you can see the buffered bike
4:11:54lane uh that a vet was speaking about
4:11:56and then the trees keep growing
4:11:59um
4:11:59so those are one of the reasons that we
4:12:01want to show you all those projects is
4:12:02as we go forward to the update these are
4:12:04what have been developed through your
4:12:05through the current guidelines we think
4:12:07they're pretty good we think that it's
4:12:09really actually kind of
4:12:10some of the better design that you're
4:12:12seeing um of the difference projects
4:12:14going in uh mayor i'd like to make a
4:12:17motion too for another uh 15 additional
4:12:20minutes to 11 30.
4:12:22in motion by quinto seconded by abelson
4:12:25all in favor
4:12:27as opposed motion carries city manager
4:12:30concurs
4:12:32um
4:12:33okay so uh we can decide what to do with
4:12:36this next part let me tell you quickly
4:12:37so the plan update that we'd like to do
4:12:39based on what you've just seen
4:12:41um we do we are running out and we have
4:12:44found that the program eir has been a
4:12:46way to facilitate the conversation
4:12:47around development to have a
4:12:48comprehensive view about all these
4:12:50projects and to streamline the review
4:12:51process and timing
4:12:53and we are running out of units
4:12:56we can discuss briefly also we think
4:12:58that we could do some minor form-based
4:13:00code updates
4:13:02um
4:13:02you can see again maintaining momentum
4:13:05towards the vision
4:13:06even with all those projects that we
4:13:08showed you i drove around the other day
4:13:10with the new city clerk and the new
4:13:12assistant city manager and it was hard
4:13:13not to look at all that wasn't happening
4:13:15as well and it's something we're
4:13:16thinking of is how do we convey this
4:13:18vision on the avenue even those of us
4:13:20who are familiar with this a lot of
4:13:22these projects still when you're out
4:13:24there how do you feel it so we're
4:13:25thinking about when they put up
4:13:26renderings how do we deal with fencing
4:13:28how do we
4:13:29get that vision out there while it's
4:13:31waiting to happen over the next couple
4:13:32of years
4:13:33one thing we didn't share but
4:13:35mayfair so we did share the guitar
4:13:37center is under construction mayfair
4:13:39submitted their building permit today
4:13:40and they expect to be up and running by
4:13:42august 2020 um so that one's very quick
4:13:45due to it being a modular project
4:13:48um so about three months until they get
4:13:49their building permit and then they will
4:13:50start doing their podium and while their
4:13:52podium is being built they'll be out at
4:13:54mare island building their modules and
4:13:56it literally they said takes three weeks
4:13:58from the time they start to bring in the
4:14:00modules to get up to six stories so
4:14:01that'll be a really fun
4:14:03um process
4:14:04and we can give you updates on others if
4:14:06you want as well in terms of our crystal
4:14:08ball about who's submitting when and
4:14:10construction
4:14:12uh just quickly the update that we want
4:14:14to do we went to the planning commission
4:14:15and the drb last month we're with you
4:14:17and we would like to come back if you
4:14:19say yes let's keep moving forward to
4:14:21award a contract
4:14:22um
4:14:23to mig who did our specific plan so to
4:14:26keep involving them in this update
4:14:28do stakeholder workshops that's both to
4:14:30hold the public workshop to hear how
4:14:32they feel the plan is going
4:14:34um kind of what we've done with you and
4:14:36then also to talk to the development
4:14:38community
4:14:39um and then to do the eir um and come
4:14:42back to you in the eir is about a year
4:14:43process so we're looking at about a year
4:14:47i'm just throwing to you again to
4:14:48something really important about this
4:14:50our form-based code is it relates to
4:14:51street type and some of the changes
4:14:53we're talking about are street type
4:14:55or proposed changes i can't find the um
4:14:58so you can see the
4:15:00it's just
4:15:01there it is
4:15:03this one
4:15:04so the red
4:15:05the red and the dark blue is where we
4:15:07require ground floor commercial as a
4:15:09reminder the economic development study
4:15:10said move to residential that's what's
4:15:13penciling in the bay area we think it's
4:15:15now time to expand the commercial
4:15:17requirements now that we've seen the
4:15:18success of this we think we need more
4:15:20commercial spaces to support and make
4:15:21that residential livable and walkable
4:15:24for both existing and new residents so
4:15:26the dark blue and the red i'm going to
4:15:28point out the dark blue and the red are
4:15:30where we do already require ground floor
4:15:32commercial i'm so and then we'd like to
4:15:35expand that
4:15:36um and then the pink streets are one
4:15:37you're gonna hear about too those are
4:15:39when i've gone to different planning
4:15:40conferences those are challenging
4:15:41streets because you start to transition
4:15:43into the neighborhood zones
4:15:47so some of the things that we're looking
4:15:49at doing is creating like i said more
4:15:50commercial spaces through two different
4:15:52ways expanding
4:15:54the dark blue street type
4:15:57and then also looking at
4:15:59creating ground floor commercial
4:16:01up on the north and on east shore
4:16:04and potentially where walgreens that
4:16:06area is we realized
4:16:08with big five looking for a place
4:16:10they said they would like to stay in
4:16:11town they'd like to be up but there's no
4:16:13five thousand square foot place places
4:16:15um
4:16:16and they did say not many people
4:16:18buy
4:16:19dumbbells and take it on part
4:16:21um
4:16:22so
4:16:23they do need some parking so we would
4:16:25like to potentially explore adding some
4:16:27commercial requirements also those
4:16:28properties historically because they
4:16:29have freeway frontage they also can
4:16:31attract a different type of commercial
4:16:32and so we just think that looking at
4:16:34this small city how do we keep a range
4:16:36of uh commercial both for sales tax
4:16:38revenue as well as amenities
4:16:42um
4:16:43we there's some street standards um in
4:16:45the plan that talk about how wide
4:16:47sidewalks are and what the relationship
4:16:48of the building are we think some of
4:16:49those can be updated
4:16:51i'm gonna go quickly through those um
4:16:53and if you have any questions about any
4:16:55of them neighborhood street standards
4:16:57and that one is obviously come up and
4:16:59sean brought that up in 921 kearney so
4:17:01just what are this what are the building
4:17:03forms when we get on to the smaller
4:17:04streets
4:17:07um the process and the tier four process
4:17:09we think has gone pretty well but
4:17:10there's some ideas that we have to make
4:17:12it even more
4:17:13uh both quantifiable and to expect to
4:17:17share it with the planning commission in
4:17:18a way that they feel they can evaluate
4:17:20apples and oranges a little bit better
4:17:23um the pre-application process we found
4:17:25that projects that have gone early to
4:17:27the design review board or planning
4:17:29commission just are more receptive and
4:17:31get set off on the right foot so we're
4:17:33talking about maybe requiring that more
4:17:36um parking we've talked about um i think
4:17:38with everything that we said tonight we
4:17:39think that potentially
4:17:41that um
4:17:43we want to examine whether we can be
4:17:45more specific about what we mean by
4:17:47transportation demand management and
4:17:48maybe for tier two projects we require
4:17:51that they are within the range so in
4:17:53some ways you could you heard tonight
4:17:55um cities don't like to have minimums
4:17:58it's not considered the most progressive
4:17:59way but we think our tier two process
4:18:01might be a minimum and that you move
4:18:02more to a tier four um if you're not but
4:18:04this is something we want to explore
4:18:06we've also heard that commercial like
4:18:08big five would like to know more
4:18:09explicitly that they could go above our
4:18:12parking maximums if they needed to and
4:18:14we want to make that clear to the retail
4:18:16community that you're welcome here we'll
4:18:18figure out a way if you give your
4:18:20employees maybe
4:18:21bus passes
4:18:23a big one here that we'd like to explore
4:18:25is maybe
4:18:26saying with new multi-family housing or
4:18:28multi-family we're working with the
4:18:30attorneys on this there's some issues
4:18:31but that we do one parking permit per
4:18:33unit rather than what's currently
4:18:35allowed which is there's no guidance and
4:18:37so we assume it's four like it is for
4:18:39single family in those zones which is a
4:18:40lot of permits
4:18:43um
4:18:44uh the design review board has wanted we
4:18:46have some submittals that are excellent
4:18:48and some aren't and so we're trying to
4:18:49figure out how to make them all
4:18:50excellent
4:18:52um
4:18:53we've adopted some policies like
4:18:54inclusionary
4:18:56zoning um public works is working on
4:18:58green infrastructure requirements we'd
4:19:00like to fold these into the plans so
4:19:01we're not having to refer to them
4:19:03separately
4:19:05open space standards we just want to
4:19:06make sure so the map that you see here
4:19:08there's certain places in the urban
4:19:10greening plan that were identified as
4:19:11really needing some green space these
4:19:13are often commercial nodes um or places
4:19:16that just needed to be softened and so
4:19:18there's places where we really strongly
4:19:20encourage the provision of public open
4:19:22space there's other places
4:19:24that we're just as happy to receive the
4:19:26in-lieu and then that in-lieu money can
4:19:28be spent on public projects that serve
4:19:32the city and the plan area and helping
4:19:34to make it greener and we can talk more
4:19:35about that
4:19:38a design review board thinks that we
4:19:39could also update some of our
4:19:42architectural requirements to create
4:19:43kind of higher quality spaces
4:19:47um
4:19:48and that is our presentation tonight and
4:19:50we're open for questions
4:19:52all right council member fidelity
4:19:55yes thanks i'll talk really fast here
4:19:58so
4:19:59uh with some of the feedback we get
4:20:02about why is it taking so long in the
4:20:04city
4:20:05we we see the value of what's about to
4:20:07happen here
4:20:08do you believe after five years that the
4:20:12specific plan
4:20:13has been a success and we just need is
4:20:15it fine tuning we're talking about
4:20:18or is it
4:20:19more than that oh i think it's been a
4:20:21success and i think it's fine tuning i
4:20:23think there's other pieces to realizing
4:20:24the whole vision so for example some of
4:20:26the in luffy's we've identified do we
4:20:28want to acquire
4:20:30you know any new green spaces do we want
4:20:32to
4:20:32make some more permanent plazas so i
4:20:34think there's some
4:20:35but i think it's what we set out to do i
4:20:38think that it's bringing the residents
4:20:40and um the process is resulting in high
4:20:43quality projects one of the things we
4:20:44wanted to show is that you could bring
4:20:46in
4:20:47kind of high density projects but if you
4:20:48hold the bar high and you have high
4:20:50quality design and i think that that
4:20:52we've um i think we've achieved that so
4:20:54i think i think it's a success i'm
4:20:56hearing good things from planners it's
4:20:58our residents that are saying let's
4:20:59hurry up so this is it's happening
4:21:02now yeah so you know your metrics of
4:21:04success the one that i can't do is be
4:21:05the bank that finances the project and
4:21:07finally i was glad i got some mixed
4:21:10messaging about commercial development
4:21:12because
4:21:14in the past it's been let's be more
4:21:16flexible with residency
4:21:19and
4:21:20i didn't see a lot of uh
4:21:23retail or commercial until the last few
4:21:25projects
4:21:26because it
4:21:28but that's i'm encouraged that your
4:21:30report is saying we need to add more
4:21:32commercial is that right yeah so i'd
4:21:34like to point out in your map do you
4:21:35have the map
4:21:39i think there's nine one there's like
4:21:40nine new commercial spaces of the
4:21:42sixteen projects so i think it's
4:21:43actually nine new spaces there's a lot
4:21:45of new so this way we'll create some
4:21:48sort but we can even make that more with
4:21:50our citizens and parking issues
4:21:52wherever we put those things so so thank
4:21:55you for that um and i understand the
4:21:57design review board has given you a lot
4:21:59of suggestions to help their efforts
4:22:02they have yeah because i know i've
4:22:05talked to some of them and some of the
4:22:06concerns has been that there's been an
4:22:08incentive to reduce the value of
4:22:10improvements
4:22:11along the front of some of the
4:22:13um
4:22:14so they won't have to go through the the
4:22:16effort and if they can you can fine-tune
4:22:18that then we can make sure we don't get
4:22:20lower quality facades on our yeah and
4:22:23sometimes we do say the design review so
4:22:24we can do requirements we want it but
4:22:26sometimes the design review board has to
4:22:27be the one that says to them that's not
4:22:28good enough two more i i swear um how
4:22:32effectively and are we going to work
4:22:34with the city of richmond
4:22:35um i'm glad to ask that so we actually
4:22:37had a great conversation with their new
Staff described next steps for the plan's retail and parking rules.
How to convey the vision while projects wait: renderings on construction fencing so people can “feel” the avenue's future.
Staff would explore whether Tier II parking ranges act as minimums, and clarify that retailers such as Big 5 — whose customers carry dumbbells, not onto BART — may exceed maximums.
Freeway-frontage sites attract different commercial uses; the aim was a range of retail “for sales tax revenue as well as amenities.”
Fadelli welcomed renewed interest in commercial space: “the one [metric] I can't do is be the bank that finances the project.”
Reversing the earlier advice — “the economic development study said move to residential” — staff now proposed expanding ground floor commercial requirements by street type in the form-based code. Mayfair, a modular project, expected to be open by August 2020.
Staff also floated limiting new multi-family housing to one residential parking permit per unit, and proposed MIG for workshops and the EIR, about a year's work.
Staff propose expanding ground floor commercial requirements and making clear that retailers may exceed parking maximums; Big 5 told the city “not many people buy dumbbells” and take them on BART.
20 It needs a champion captions 7201–7549
4:22:38building and planning manager today who
4:22:40was recently promoted lena velasco
4:22:43um and
4:22:44they would love to have our specific
4:22:46plan
4:22:47um they actually did integrate um some
4:22:50of the language from ours in terms of
4:22:51when there's parcels that
4:22:53cross boundaries and so they integrated
4:22:54the language that we had in our specific
4:22:56plan um
4:22:57they did have an update for us which is
4:22:59exciting on central just that they're
4:23:01going to be funding the creek
4:23:02restoration on the central project as a
4:23:03mitigation for a different project
4:23:05um and that in general so they said the
4:23:07opposition sometimes is strong to being
4:23:10able to do what they
4:23:12do you remember in ours we have a t4 and
4:23:13t5 so they actually have a forum based
4:23:15code in other parts of their town
4:23:17that they would like to extend okay if
4:23:20there's any way we can help bring the
4:23:22city of richmond along because san pablo
4:23:25avenue it's both of us they had a new
4:23:26city manager and we did offer that we
4:23:28could come and give a presentation to
4:23:29their planning commission and show them
4:23:31kind of the success because but she does
4:23:32think that they would like to see what
4:23:34we're seeing okay and lastly open space
4:23:36we're talking place making again with
4:23:38this document open space is really
4:23:40important whether it's in place making
4:23:42whether it means
4:23:44holiday lights at the plaza or up and
4:23:46down san pablo avenue in our theater
4:23:47district or
4:23:49creating open space as a condition of
4:23:51approval that they participate in the
4:23:52holidays i'll chip in on that
4:23:56is there any discussion because it's
4:23:58come up a few times about that open
4:24:00space down by fairmont and san pablo
4:24:03that intersection
4:24:05what a great center of our city that
4:24:07could be
4:24:08with places to sit greenery
4:24:11a real center
4:24:13is that in the discussions anywhere any
4:24:16any time in my discussion so i think
4:24:18that it needs a champion
4:24:20and i do think however that it'll be
4:24:21probably i think it's identified and
4:24:23it'll be identified in our green
4:24:24infrastructure plan it's been identified
4:24:26in our urban greening plan
4:24:28it's really going to be city yeah so
4:24:30keep bringing it up and there are things
4:24:32in that intersection that could i think
4:24:34it's a key
4:24:36piece of of the change thank you very
4:24:38much
4:24:39you ever tim
4:24:41yeah i'll
4:24:42obviously curtail my comments and
4:24:44questions quite a bit uh
4:24:46the
4:24:47because it means no all the time okay um
4:24:52one of the questions that i had it was
4:24:54the
4:24:55how many of these focus areas can be
4:24:58implemented without an eir and can we
4:25:01move those forward and make some type of
4:25:03revision to the span pavlov new specific
4:25:06plan before triggering an eir
4:25:08so sean and i have been speaking about
4:25:10that and have kind of a compound
4:25:12response but
4:25:13as you know
4:25:15we need to come up with what they are so
4:25:16we need to go through a process and
4:25:17decide those focus areas what's the
4:25:19answer we don't know the answer on all
4:25:20of them there could be different
4:25:22feelings about how some of them go for
4:25:24example on neighborhood streets for
4:25:25example
4:25:26um
4:25:28once we define those
4:25:29then we've got these options right so we
4:25:31could take it
4:25:32we could analyze and say what does that
4:25:34require what kind of sequa what kind of
4:25:35level of review does that require is it
4:25:37exempt that collection
4:25:40does it require an mnd a subsequent m d
4:25:42i need to avoid the piecemealing
4:25:45declaration and then there's a time and
4:25:47efficiency standpoint so the short
4:25:48answer is yes we could do that the
4:25:50second answer is once we we still have
4:25:52to get through this first few months
4:25:53we'd rather at least decide what all
4:25:55those the collection of changes would be
4:25:58and then we could determine whether it
4:26:00would make sense i mean of course
4:26:01there's an effort right it's a general
4:26:02plan amendment we'd have to come to this
4:26:03you know come
4:26:04it would slow down the eir piece because
4:26:06we can only do so much at a time
4:26:09um but yes and i and there's some
4:26:11sensibility to it which is if there's
4:26:13some changes and you don't want any new
4:26:14applications to come in
4:26:16without those changes
4:26:18then that would be the way to achieve
4:26:20that i would uh
4:26:22the reason for that question is because
4:26:24there are certainly some i mean
4:26:26there's only 283 units left
4:26:29but there's 132 000 square feet
4:26:32left in our in our planning documents so
4:26:35we have almost
4:26:36half of the this commercial
4:26:38space left
4:26:40if there's anything you can do to
4:26:42um pro like the you have the you talked
4:26:45you didn't talk about in your
4:26:46presentation but in the document there's
4:26:48the commercial priority overlay i don't
4:26:50know if that triggers the eir
4:26:53you did definitely talk about changing
4:26:54the street types so to encourage more
4:26:57commercial that clearly would be an eir
4:27:00trigger
4:27:01um so i i would certainly want to hear
4:27:05um
4:27:06you know what can be done that would not
4:27:08trigger an eir
4:27:11you know process
4:27:13um
4:27:15mr fidelity talked about the tier three
4:27:17design review you uh
4:27:19considering a lower dollar threshold or
4:27:21or a square footage threshold for those
4:27:25and that may or may not
4:27:27as you've discussed would have to be
4:27:29looked at to see what can be bundled and
4:27:31potentially implemented through
4:27:33amendment sometime this summer which
4:27:36would be a year in advance
4:27:39of your projected
4:27:41i know you put up march 2020 but
4:27:44that's you're paid to be optimistic
4:27:46um
4:27:48in in attachment 5 there is 31.3 million
4:27:52dollars worth of of
4:27:54revenue it looks like coming from
4:27:56various locations
4:27:59is that based on a pro a list of
4:28:02projects that are needed i see a vet
4:28:03coming forward
4:28:05so
4:28:07have we identified what that 31.3
4:28:09million would be for and before you
4:28:11speak
4:28:12yeah before you start another 15 minutes
4:28:14second
4:28:15uh motion by quinto second by abelson
4:28:19all in
4:28:20favor opposed motion carries
4:28:26yes um the project list is the one that
4:28:28was identified as part of the
4:28:29transportation impact fee development so
4:28:32it includes the san pablo avenue
4:28:34complete streets and a subset of the
4:28:36actual transportation plan and learning
4:28:38unit master plan improvements great
4:28:39thanks that's glad to know that we have
4:28:41that money
4:28:42we've got to identify the revenue for
4:28:45that is matched up to the projects that
4:28:47we had
4:28:48that plan thank you
4:28:56um
4:28:57well let me just first say that this is
4:28:59so exciting um
4:29:01this is actually why i got on the city
4:29:04council was to do stuff like this
4:29:07so uh and it's actually why i stayed on
4:29:10the city council
4:29:11but um it's very exciting and
4:29:15i know there are little things that have
4:29:17to be changed so to speak relatively
4:29:19speaking
4:29:20but this is really a big
4:29:23movement
4:29:25and
4:29:26[Music]
4:29:27i'm really happy that you went back to
4:29:29lonnie hancock's
4:29:31original vision
4:29:34and because i remember that and i
4:29:36remember some of the things we did
4:29:39group wise regarding that
4:29:41i um
4:29:42[Music]
4:29:44and what what i'm wondering about um
4:29:48is some of the retail because
4:29:52as a person who rides the bus
4:29:54what i see on the bus
4:29:57is that people would like not to have to
4:30:00go so far to get things like food
4:30:02you know
4:30:03basic groceries
4:30:05so
4:30:06the question is
4:30:08to me
4:30:09midtown
4:30:11it's it seems like there's a real lack
4:30:13of
4:30:14ability to get
4:30:17basic thing the sort of things that you
4:30:19get every week every day you know
4:30:22that groceries um
4:30:24[Music]
4:30:27um
4:30:28what i'm just trying i've i could if i
4:30:30thought about it long enough give you a
4:30:32list of any number of things that i have
4:30:34to go
4:30:36to some other community
4:30:38like san francisco
4:30:40or um walnut creek
4:30:44that i used to be able to get an el
4:30:45cerrito but no longer can
4:30:48target like things i guess you could say
4:30:50things some of the commodities stores
4:30:53that sell those commodities it would be
4:30:55nice if we could
4:30:57somewhere in there attract something and
4:31:00that's um
4:31:02you know sells things like that
4:31:04is the criteria and i don't quite know
4:31:07how to get it in here
4:31:09but
4:31:10but i could also see
4:31:12because i have seen it in the los
4:31:14angeles area certainly
4:31:16is to have a
4:31:18[Music]
4:31:19i'll call it a mini big box
4:31:22on the ground floor
4:31:23but then up above that
4:31:26are um apartments
4:31:29um
4:31:30and is there one in berkeley any target
4:31:33in berkeley yeah
4:31:35any target yeah there's a mini target oh
4:31:38downtown yeah but it doesn't really
4:31:40carry much of anything that one
4:31:42um
4:31:43i know because it's one of the places i
4:31:45try going
4:31:48um
4:31:48the um
4:31:50so if we could
4:31:53think about as
4:31:54something a project here or there that
4:31:56kind of
4:31:57incorporates both those kinds of things
4:32:00um
4:32:02i think the vision that a car dealer had
4:32:05at del norte
4:32:07uh would but then didn't it's not
4:32:09happening the one at osh
4:32:12was an example of that but with a
4:32:14different
4:32:15uh set of commodities i guess you could
4:32:18say
4:32:19so anyway i guess i would hope that we
4:32:21could incorporate
4:32:23some of those and then
4:32:25it sounds like some of these projects
4:32:27can happen pretty fast
4:32:30you were talking about 2020
4:32:33on the
4:32:34the one that uses modular
4:32:37um
4:32:38i remember when we used modular for the
4:32:41recycling center and it went up really
4:32:44fast
4:32:45so and it looks just fine to me
4:32:49we got an award for it
4:32:52but
4:32:53so i guess i really don't have a whole
4:32:55lot to add to that other than to say
4:32:58um
4:32:59fantastic work
4:33:02great councilmember quinto thank you
4:33:04mayor um
4:33:05thank you this is a great uh
4:33:07overview of uh all the work that you
4:33:09have done and then the hours and months
4:33:12and years that uh us you and staff have
4:33:15worked on uh thank you for that and um i
4:33:18just want to mention with the um you
4:33:20know many of the the
4:33:22uh floor level the ground level um there
4:33:26are room for restaurants and the number
4:33:27one thing that residents have mentioned
4:33:30to me and emailed me through the years
4:33:32is that
4:33:33we need quality restaurants not just
4:33:35fast food and places for breakfast but
4:33:38we need sit-down restaurants
4:33:41so you don't have to go to berkeley we
4:33:42would like to spend our money here
4:33:44and uh and developers that are
4:33:46developing here hear that and and so
4:33:49know that they plan on bringing uh good
4:33:51quality restaurants here and i
4:33:53appreciate you reaching out to the folks
4:33:55that are
4:33:57working on the the angie's bar there and
4:33:59they have a a beer pub there from a
4:34:02well-known restaurateur that's what uh
4:34:04residents need here and i see the future
4:34:07of service oriented type
4:34:09small businesses and and i think with
4:34:13the folks that will be moving here uh
4:34:15that's what they'll be asking for
4:34:16walking uh to have you yeah uh to have
4:34:20uh go to the dentist or buy some
4:34:24wine or or go out to a restaurant or
4:34:26cafe and then
4:34:28these are the same amenities that many
4:34:29of the uh folks that have purchased
4:34:31homes here uh that moved from san
4:34:33francisco that's what they want and and
4:34:36hopefully we're finally going to do this
4:34:38and i congratulate you for all the work
4:34:40that you're doing here thank you
4:34:42thank you very much for your
4:34:44presentation i will uh i don't have any
4:34:46further questions and i'll save my
Councilmembers responded to the plan update and asked about process.
Fadelli asked about Richmond: its new planning manager wanted to extend form-based code, and El Cerrito had offered to present its results to Richmond's planning commission.
Fadelli asked about the open space at Fairmount and San Pablo: “it needs a champion,” identified in the green infrastructure and urban greening plans.
Lyman asked which changes could go ahead without an EIR, with 283 units but 132,000 square feet of commercial left in the plan's capacity. Staff said it could be done, but doing amendments first “would slow down the eir piece.”
Abelson recalled Loni Hancock's original vision and, as a bus rider, noted people want “basic groceries” nearer — “midtown… seems like there's a real lack.”
She suggested a “mini big box” with apartments above, like Berkeley's small downtown Target.
Quinto said residents most want quality sit-down restaurants, “so you don't have to go to berkeley.”
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4:34:48comments for the end
4:34:49we have a speaker on this item we do
4:34:51have one speaker uh howdy gowdy
4:34:55please come forward
4:34:58good evening mayor council members my
4:35:00name is howdy gowdy i live in el cerrito
4:35:02um so
4:35:04i thank staff for this presentation
4:35:07i'll say over the past four years i've
4:35:09actually
4:35:10attended
4:35:11pretty much every
4:35:13drb and planning commission meeting i've
4:35:15seen all these projects and it's been
4:35:18very educational and i've i've actually
4:35:20enjoyed it and i would like to
4:35:22complement the process
4:35:24as being
4:35:25one that you can participate in and have
4:35:28some some input and i would also
4:35:30complement the drb and planning
4:35:33commission i think they've really
4:35:34improved and held these
4:35:36projects to a high
4:35:38standard and it's it's showed that they
4:35:42are producing a good result and
4:35:44particularly the um
4:35:47the study sessions that have preceded
4:35:48some of these um coming
4:35:51before formal application has has been a
4:35:53very helpful process as well so i think
4:35:55the process is working and um
4:35:58and it you know
4:36:00there have been some small things
4:36:01identified to
4:36:03improve it but i think they are small
4:36:05and
4:36:06they should proceed as quickly as
4:36:09possible i think you know what's before
4:36:11you
4:36:11today are kind of two different things
4:36:13you know there's the eir which is
4:36:15expanding this programmatic package that
4:36:18approves a large
4:36:20batch of
4:36:22projects um but then there's you know
4:36:25the details of of the form based code
4:36:27that
4:36:29really should not be held to that same
4:36:31process i think they can proceed a lot
4:36:33faster as
4:36:34councilmember lyman was saying we should
4:36:36identify the ones that don't trigger you
4:36:38know big thresholds and just get them
4:36:41approved because there's no reason to
4:36:42wait and if we can identify things that
4:36:45need that make the plan better
4:36:49why accept more applications without
4:36:52those things in place
4:36:54and
4:36:54you know it's worth recognizing the plan
4:36:57itself requires
4:37:00administrative interpretations to be
4:37:02codified
4:37:04you know as soon as practical it's in
4:37:06the it's in the plan to do that and i
4:37:07don't think a year and a half after
4:37:10an interpretation is
4:37:11really adhering to that standard so we
4:37:14need to move forward and address these
4:37:16issues because they have substantive
4:37:18impacts like what was presented to you
4:37:20tonight
4:37:22kearney street being a lesson learned
4:37:25the plan you adopted does not entitle
4:37:28kearney street the way it's being
4:37:29proposed that is there because an
4:37:32amendment
4:37:34what practically is an amendment but was
4:37:36passed off as an interpretation
4:37:39took away a standard that would have
4:37:41constrained the scope of that project on
4:37:44a neighborhood street and it did it for
4:37:47another project you saw which was the
4:37:51playland not at the beach
4:37:52a previous project had had to do tier
4:37:56four to do what playland did but it went
4:37:58through as tier two because of that
4:38:00interpretation
4:38:01which might have been appropriate at
4:38:03that place because it was right at the
4:38:04corner of
4:38:05san pablo
4:38:07but it had this unintended effect of of
4:38:10making kearney street possible and that
4:38:13was all done outside of the public
4:38:15process you know that was just an
4:38:16administrative action it didn't go to
4:38:19you it didn't go to the planning
4:38:20commission these are the things that
4:38:21need to be held in an open forum and it
4:38:24doesn't benefit us to wait completely
4:38:27so
4:38:28you know i had to sit here for a long
4:38:31time and listen to you and i think
4:38:33you can give me the courtesy of
4:38:36listening to what the public commented
4:38:38three minutes thank you i'm just saying
4:38:41you don't have to
4:38:45okay do we have further comments from
4:38:48the council
4:38:49[Music]
4:38:51yeah i'll reiterate what i'd the
4:38:54questions i had before which is we
4:38:55really should be uh making the
4:38:58improvements that we can without uh that
4:39:01don't require a sql review
4:39:03as soon as we can
4:39:04that that is uh
4:39:07makes sense
4:39:08uh if it's not triggering an expansion
4:39:10of the capacity
4:39:12and we can do it without triggering
4:39:14environmental review we should be moving
4:39:16it forward
4:39:18the
4:39:18comments oh and i have one other sorry
4:39:22uh actually i reviewed the agenda item
4:39:24again and i did not see that last little
4:39:26piece that you put in about
4:39:28uh changing the parking permits for
4:39:32a residential to one i didn't see that
4:39:36in the agenda item so so i i wanna i
4:39:39wanna actually comment on that because
4:39:40you slip that in there at the end i
4:39:42actually don't think they need any um i
4:39:45mean because
4:39:46the whole point of why we're having the
4:39:49lower parking ratio is to change their
4:39:52mode so i'm really trying to figure out
4:39:54why we would allow for these apartment
4:39:58complexes that are in transit oriented
4:40:00development to have parking permits
4:40:02because the attorney general has issued
4:40:04a statement that says it's not you can't
4:40:07you can't deny
4:40:09on-street parking privileges to only
4:40:11multi-family housing and not to the
4:40:13single-family housing so you can't
4:40:15we think we've we've been uh i can pass
4:40:18this on to the attorney and um but
4:40:20basically we've kind of looked at that
4:40:22as an idea um but again we've just
4:40:24looked at so
4:40:25um
4:40:26kamala harris's office when she was
4:40:27attorney general did issue something on
4:40:29this and that actually just denying
4:40:30permits to multi-family housing was not
4:40:33permissible but we think that looking at
4:40:34the number of them is permissible
4:40:38the attorney general's opinion was that
4:40:39you cannot
4:40:41discriminate between housing types in
4:40:44setting up residential preferential
4:40:45parking permits and so
4:40:47if
4:40:49if in the same area residential and
4:40:52multi-family housing both exist
4:40:55then the residents of the multi-family
4:40:57housing also have to have the
4:40:58opportunity to get parking permits on
4:41:00the same terms as as single family
4:41:04we certainly need to look at our parking
4:41:06permit program
4:41:08i'll second that i think four seems it's
4:41:12good that would be a a lot for um
4:41:15especially if this place comes in with
4:41:17zero parking spaces and
4:41:20i think it's it gets said very clearly
4:41:22in the parking study a permit does not
4:41:24guarantee you a parking space
4:41:28so thank you very much for your
4:41:30presentation i think that the things
4:41:32that are moving along look so
4:41:33encouraging it's great to see that can
4:41:36computerize renditions of how things
4:41:39could look
4:41:40five ten years from now
4:41:43and maybe in certain areas two years
4:41:45from now
4:41:47it's it shows a tremendous amount of
4:41:49work it shows a plan that's working i
4:41:51think the the tweaks that you that we're
4:41:54talking about making to the plan um
4:41:56should move forward
4:41:58and um i just really appreciate all the
4:42:00work that you have done on this and that
4:42:03you will continue to do on this and i
4:42:04think that el cerrito is just
4:42:07blossoming as a city so thank you very
4:42:09much
4:42:13okay
4:42:14thank you all for your continued vision
4:42:15on the topic
4:42:18do we need a motion here
4:42:20to direct staff
4:42:22this is
4:42:24i'll make it really fast one second
4:42:27i move that we direct staff to update
4:42:29the plan and programmatic
4:42:31uh
4:42:32environmental impact report
4:42:35reading from here
4:42:39is that what we what is that what we
4:42:40want to do i mean i'd like to hear is
4:42:43there a second on the motion the second
4:42:44time um
4:42:47that would be
4:42:49only to implement the schedule that the
4:42:51staff put in place and i would certainly
4:42:53not support that because i'm i'm
4:42:55actually have asked for them to look at
4:42:58the changes that they're looking at and
4:43:00consider doing an amendment in a head of
4:43:02it ahead of an eir
4:43:04so
4:43:05the motion that i've as i understood it
4:43:07is to bundle all the changes and then do
4:43:10an eir and and therefore i'm not going
4:43:12to support that motion
4:43:17would you have an amendment to
4:43:19make it
4:43:20friendly
4:43:22uh i don't i don't know if we need a
4:43:24motion but if we do need a motion i
4:43:26would move th i would move it's we have
4:43:28something that's on the floor it's
4:43:29already been seconded so we have to
4:43:30either well i i'm a little confused
4:43:32about what you're talking about greg to
4:43:34me that sounds like agenda item 7a
4:43:38what you're talking about
4:43:41is on street parking no
4:43:44when you said four
4:43:47[Music]
4:43:51all i'm saying is that the changes
4:43:53should be evaluated and those that can
4:43:55be implemented without a sequel analysis
4:43:58should be implemented and those that
4:44:00require a sql analysis should proceed
4:44:02along the timeline that staff has
4:44:04identified with an eir destined to be
4:44:07completed in march of 2020. so i'll i'll
4:44:10change my motion to say
4:44:12what you just said how's that
4:44:14that'd be great
4:44:16excuse me your honor if i may um one of
4:44:19the things that we are looking for in
4:44:21this case is direction we are not
4:44:23looking for a specific timeline we are
4:44:25not asking you to adopt a specific
4:44:26timeline we don't have that information
4:44:29before you at this time any updates to
4:44:31the plan would have to be brought back
4:44:33to you anyway there is also an issue of
4:44:35funding we have not really talked about
4:44:37in some of these updates and timing
4:44:40capacity of staff and so
4:44:42if you were able to provide us direction
4:44:45to move forward with a process to update
4:44:47the plan in the eir i believe that that
4:44:49would be
4:44:50the broadest way to be able to do this
4:44:53as well as direct staff appropriately
4:44:55because we can't make you any promises
4:44:57on any of that at this time
4:45:00if i may
4:45:01in talking sean and i
4:45:03we have to define what those changes are
4:45:04and we have to go through a process and
4:45:06when we go through that process
4:45:09uh we would be coming to the planning
4:45:10commission we could come to you and we
4:45:11could kind of determine and as you
4:45:13mentioned council member lyman it's sort
4:45:14of
4:45:15we don't know how you know once you peel
4:45:16off too many so i think we need to come
4:45:19back with that after we go through the
4:45:21process of determining
4:45:22the answer to some of the changes that
4:45:24we're proposing some of them aren't
4:45:26conclusive correct my concern was that
4:45:28the motion
4:45:29was
4:45:30go to adjust to an eir
4:45:32and not do an amendment that you can do
4:45:35and then do an eir for the amendments
4:45:37you need an eir for so i i actually
4:45:40it would be great if the motion could be
4:45:42read back to us because we do have a
4:45:43motion on the floor that's been seconded
4:45:45but
4:45:46and there's been a proposal to modify it
4:45:49and and we're past the time that you
4:45:51extended the meeting to
4:45:54have a motion
4:45:57to extend the meeting i think rick
4:45:58should make the motion there's a motion
4:46:01that's been seconded that's on the table
4:46:03oh
4:46:04okay oh so i withdraw my motion
4:46:08the finder of the motion agree with that
4:46:10that's you
4:46:14my understanding was just that motion
4:46:16and i was seconding it for you guys to
4:46:18carry on that's that's what we're asking
4:46:20what i thought it was
4:46:22and hearing our views you heard our
4:46:25views to carry on with what yes not
4:46:28making any promises we have to make a
4:46:29motion how about all in favor of that
4:46:31motion shall we vote on it all in favor
4:46:35aye aye those opposed abstention
4:46:38because i actually don't know what the
4:46:39motion was
4:46:41so motion was to direct step was the one
4:46:43that's in the staff report which is to
4:46:44direct staff to update the plan and
4:46:47programmatic environmental impact report
4:46:50yeah i think that's too specific but
4:46:52that's okay abstain
4:46:55okay motion passes
4:46:58all right now do i have another motion
4:47:02can we be done right now i move that we
4:47:05adjourn this meeting in in recognition
4:47:07of former mayor ken byrne
4:47:11okay all in favor
4:47:12aye aye
4:47:14opposed motion passes meeting is
4:47:16adjourned
4:47:19thank you
4:49:31you
A resident praised the process, and the meeting closed in recognition of a former mayor.
Howdy Goudey had attended “pretty much every DRB and planning commission meeting” for four years, and complimented the process.
His concern: an administrative interpretation, made “outside of the public process,” had let the Playland project go through as Tier II and made the 921 Kearney Street project possible. “I had to sit here for a long time and listen to you, and I think you can give me the courtesy” of listening, he added.
Lyman again urged making the improvements that need no environmental review as soon as possible, and objected to giving permits to new multi-family housing at all. Staff said a past attorney general's opinion held that permit programs “cannot discriminate between housing types,” though limiting their number may be permissible.
A motion to direct staff, as in the staff report, “to update the plan and programmatic environmental impact report” was seconded; Lyman wanted amendments needing no CEQA review to go first, and staff said they were asking only for direction. The motion passed with one abstention, from a councilmember who said “i actually don't know what the motion was.”
The meeting adjourned in recognition of former Mayor Ken Berndt.